Angeles City

[Aml3740]

I've never been to Angeles. I thought about it at one point, but didn't go, and probably never will now. I will just make an observation. If I don't like a place, I don't go back. From what I hear, Angeles is pretty miserable except for the girls. If the girls aren't good and the bar scene is miserable, then why does NS keep going back? It doesn't make sense. At least that is what logic seems to speak. . .

This hobby takes all types. I just don't understand why some people try to shame or drive people away from something just because they don't like it.

[A Traveler]

This guy's posts are bizarre NonSense. He seems to have an agenda of discouraging the English speakers who read this crappy forum from visiting. He claims to lead "Western friends" and "Asia friends" on barhops. Who are these guys that need to be led around? This place is not fucking rocket surgery. There's a reason this forum is dead. It's pretty simple. There is a compact walkable street with many bars. Anybody is free to walk in to any of them. If you sit down you will be expected to buy a drink for yourself, which will give you 20 minutes or so to scope out the girls. In the "Western" bars, the girls will be wearing bikinis and might flirt with you. You can buy one you like a 350 PHP drink, which will give you 15 minutes or so to chat with her to see if there's chemistry, and maybe grope her a little. The girls are not forced to go with anybody, but every girl I asked to go out has gone home with me for boom boom. The girls in these bars are Filipino, and from places like Samar, Leyte and Mindano, the same as the Korean bars. THEY ARE THE SAME FUCKING FILIPINO GIRLS! Some are young and pretty, some are older, and some are fugly. It is a cross section of humanity.

The Korean bars are set up a little differently, with girls in dresses. They will indeed ignore you, but they are prostitutes, and if you tell a waitress you want to buy one a drink, she will come down. Amazingly, even though it is a "Korean bar," the girls are Filipno, from places like Leyte, Samar and Mindano. THEY ARE THE SAME FUCKING FILIPINO GIRLS! Some are young a pretty, some are older, and some are fugly. You are free to buy one you like a drink and talk to her. If you hit it off you can pay her 5,000 PHP barfine to boom boom her. She is a prostitute, same as in the Western bars. Indeed, as Mr. NonSense describes, the Koreans like to throw money around, presumably to impress their buddies. But you are free to buy one drink and barfine a girl you like for boom boom.

I feel sorry for anybody going on "barhops" with Mr. NonSense. He is such a sourpuss it would be impossible to have fun. If you go in with him and he's scowling at all the girls, of course non of them will want to go with his unfortunate friends. But if you go in by yourself with a good attitude and smile and joke with the girls, you will have fun in any of the bars Western of Korean.

Attached is an example of a girl from a Korean bar I banged that came up on my Facebook, and a girl from a Western bar I censored. Amazingly, the girl from the "Korean bar" is from the Philippines and took my 2,500 PHP on her day off in exchange for boom boom. Amazingly, the slim girl from the Western bar is also from the Philippines, and took my 5,000 PHP for boom boom.

This place is what you make of it. If you are a sourpuss like Mr NonSense, you will not enjoy yourself. But if you are willing to spend your money on honey, have a good attitude, and joke around and keep the conversation light with the girls, you will have a good time.

Let me try to answer as to what I and many western friends see on our many barhops.

Better looking Girls in the korean oriented bars give no attention to westerners simply because they are westerners, they are asian only girls, they have no interest at all in whitey.

To know why, one has to accept that koreans like korean only girls as many have said, if a korean saw a girl he likes giving attention, drinking, bar fining with a westerner then she will be ignored by the koreans in future hence losing the said girl her earnings, many korean oriented bar owners / managers know of the koreans preference in korean only girls and many bars instruct the girls to give full attention to the asian punters, it is what it is unfortunately.

As said before, my western drinking buddies refuse to attend asian oriented bars because of the above reasons, yes the little gang of angeles appologists on here will have one beleive korean only girls will barfine with westerners, have not found this to be the case at all, in fact the complete opposite is true IMHO, hence my western drinking buddies refuse to drink in korean oriented bars, why should they when they are treated differently because of skin colour.

As far as how much asians spend in bars compared to westerners then I would say asians party in a different way to westerners, many asian friends attend the bars for a night out and think nothing of having 2-3 girls sitting at the table for each 1 asian, many times there are 3 guys but we have multiple girls as company in the bar, buying lady drinks, making it rain, tipping the girls directly for their good company in the bar, many times spending thousands of peso even without wanting to barfining with anyone.

When asia friends do barfine, they do not even question the girls cost, they just pay for what they want, often taking the girls out for dinner or a disco before the hotel room, what's not to like for the girls.

My western friends tend to hit the western bars where they will get some attention, they tend to table a girl of their choice, quickly buying maybe a couple of drinks for themselves and mainly only the one lady drink they do not make it rain or tend to spend much in the bars their whole purpose is to find what they want and quickly head straight for the hotel.

I always spend far far less barhopping in the company of western friend than korean friends, both groups party in different ways, the westerners are quick to get laid with as little cost the asians often are just about having a good time, often spending wildly on just that, it seems for asians having a good time and gaining face about how much they can spend is important, fucking comes second in importance for many asians friends.

Stories of westerners can choose amongst the better looking girls of angeles or bar fine just as attractive girls are just that stories.

Have seen many korean friends with some nice looking girls, my western friends not so much so, hope that helps with some answers.

[NapaSlapper]

When you say Koreans are spending good money how much are you talking about being spent while in the bar for lady drinks and tipping girls directly (ie. Not including for the girl to go out). Would like an idea if I can compete for the girls.

Are your Western friends not getting attention in Korean bars solely because they aren't Asian or because they aren't willing to spend as much or more than the Koreans on the girls in a bar?

Thanks for the great update.

Let me try to answer as to what I and many western friends see on our many barhops.

Better looking Girls in the korean oriented bars give no attention to westerners simply because they are westerners, they are asian only girls, they have no interest at all in whitey.

To know why, one has to accept that koreans like korean only girls as many have said, if a korean saw a girl he likes giving attention, drinking, bar fining with a westerner then she will be ignored by the koreans in future hence losing the said girl her earnings, many korean oriented bar owners / managers know of the koreans preference in korean only girls and many bars instruct the girls to give full attention to the asian punters, it is what it is unfortunately.

As said before, my western drinking buddies refuse to attend asian oriented bars because of the above reasons, yes the little gang of angeles appologists on here will have one beleive korean only girls will barfine with westerners, have not found this to be the case at all, in fact the complete opposite is true IMHO, hence my western drinking buddies refuse to drink in korean oriented bars, why should they when they are treated differently because of skin colour.

As far as how much asians spend in bars compared to westerners then I would say asians party in a different way to westerners, many asian friends attend the bars for a night out and think nothing of having 2-3 girls sitting at the table for each 1 asian, many times there are 3 guys but we have multiple girls as company in the bar, buying lady drinks, making it rain, tipping the girls directly for their good company in the bar, many times spending thousands of peso even without wanting to barfining with anyone.

When asia friends do barfine, they do not even question the girls cost, they just pay for what they want, often taking the girls out for dinner or a disco before the hotel room, what's not to like for the girls.

My western friends tend to hit the western bars where they will get some attention, they tend to table a girl of their choice, quickly buying maybe a couple of drinks for themselves and mainly only the one lady drink they do not make it rain or tend to spend much in the bars their whole purpose is to find what they want and quickly head straight for the hotel.

I always spend far far less barhopping in the company of western friend than korean friends, both groups party in different ways, the westerners are quick to get laid with as little cost the asians often are just about having a good time, often spending wildly on just that, it seems for asians having a good time and gaining face about how much they can spend is important, fucking comes second in importance for many asians friends.

Stories of westerners can choose amongst the better looking girls of angeles or bar fine just as attractive girls are just that stories.

Have seen many korean friends with some nice looking girls, my western friends not so much so, hope that helps with some answers.

[NapaSlapper]

4 year old information is of no value in 2024.

AC was only open in January and February as the lock down went into effect.

I have noticed the higher barfines now have produced a better crop of ladies.

2024.

I think you will find that in truth although barfines increase regularly the quality of girls declines year by year IMHO.

What one saw in the bars 4 years ago and was not happy with at all would be completely shocked by the present crop of bargirls on offer, especially those available to mr westerner.

Angeles has died a death as many are saying, westerners in angeles are in very few numbers, asian punter numbers are high, especially at weekends, take away the asians spending from angeles and it would be lights out.

[NapaSlapper]

Your posts should be followed with a 'Fake news' warning.

I was recently in Angeles and the place was hopping. The bars were busy with lots of customers, there were lots of girls and plenty of pretty ones. Some bars were so busy with customers I struggled to get a seat. The stage was so packed with girls at Viking, they had a line of girls dancing in front of the stage too. You make the place out to be a ghost-town but the truth is quite different.

You also have an obsession with Koreans. You try to put people off by implying westerners don't have a chance. I'm a white British guy in my late forties and on my trip I fucked the best looking black-tape dancer in Avalon (one of your beloved Korean bars) and an extremely hot Japanese-looking girl in Genesis, who three sour-faced Koreans tried to barfine under my nose. They literally asked a waitress to invite her over to join them despite the fact I'd bought her a drink. She told me this had happened as we walked down Fields Avenue back to my hotel, telling me she hates the arrogance of customers like that.

Angeles is a candy-shop, full of willing young, pretty girls, willing to spread their legs for cash. Anyone visiting, whether Western, Korean or Martian, will have the time of their life.

Thanks for your input.

As always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, what you thought was the best looking girl in a certain bar might have been the girl all the others would not be seen dead with.

You always rave about angeles city, how each girl was a stunner and the best sex you have had, I find the guys claiming such are the guys that normally spend long periods in loveless countries, they head to asia for a few days and because they can find a bit of attention from the lower end girls they start to dream all is rosy and they are kings.

After multiple claims of young stunners throwing themselves at you not one posted picture of such from you, maybe its all just an over active immagination.

Anyways, before you claim yes but you never post photos of the stunners, yes you are correct for the reason there are no stunners, far from it as me and multiple members have been saying for quite some years now.

[Turgid]

.......Generally I swap WhatsApp or Facebook details to plan in advance for my next visit. And when I check their Facebook posts from time to time, I see many foreign guys commenting on their posts with love hearts, squishy messages and the lot. So it's pretty obvious I'm not the only 'who's been there' . If you come to the PH to find mutual love, you might be very disappointed. If you come to the PH to have a great time without realistic romance expectations, you can have a great time. Again and again.

Phil.

I started mongering long before most guys on ISG were born. I've been to all the major mongering destinations. My conclusion is that it is easier, especially for older gents of mediocre finances, to find true love in those destinations, especially in Asia, than in western countries. I did in Thailand but she could not relocate and neither could I. My advice would be to perhaps shun a romantic involvement with a prostitute. It may work for some but I would not do it as there are many obstacles to an unimpeded experience.

[PhilJoy]

Spot on. Over the years, the number of men (usually complete strangers to me who chat me up while sitting at Kok's or Phillies) who have confused the transactional nature of trading money for sex, with some form of dating, is quite high.

AC is a successful calliope of many disillusioned men who confuse prostitution with dating (or call it 'romance' or 'connection' if you will) mixed with an entire industry exploiting and profiting from the confusion. The people who work there (not the visitors) understand and exploit it well.

Well said WC.

I've met so many guys who go the PH to find love because they can't get it at home. I think they expect it to be an easy fix.

Not only in the PH, but anywhere there's a sex scene, is basically an economy in its own right.

The bars profit, the girls profit, and guys profit from getting their sexual fix.

Anywhere I've travelled to in the PH I've been lucky and have 'scored' with some beautiful girls in all locations.

Generally I swap WhatsApp or Facebook details to plan in advance for my next visit. And when I check their Facebook posts from time to time, I see many foreign guys commenting on their posts with love hearts, squishy messages and the lot. So it's pretty obvious I'm not the only 'who's been there' . If you come to the PH to find mutual love, you might be very disappointed. If you come to the PH to have a great time without realistic romance expectations, you can have a great time. Again and again.

Phil.

[MoonShot]

Spot on. Over the years, the number of men (usually complete strangers to me who chat me up while sitting at Kok's or Phillies) who have confused the transactional nature of trading money for sex, with some form of dating, is quite high.

AC is a successful calliope of many disillusioned men who confuse prostitution with dating (or call it 'romance' or 'connection' if you will) mixed with an entire industry exploiting and profiting from the confusion. The people who work there (not the visitors) understand and exploit it well.

I think it is understandable due to the differences in performance. In the USA, when you see an escort, it is usually transactional in nature and the girl may be friendly, but you are never under the impression that she really likes you or there is some connection going on. In AC, the girls are friendly and chat with you and give you the impression that they like you so you get confused because it's so different than escorts in the USA. Because it is similar to a date in the USA, this confusion leads to the thought that there must be something going on, some special connection and the girl really likes you. For guys with experience in this field, that experience comes like initially believing this and being disappointed when you start to realize that you are nothing special to the girl and it's next man up for the girl when you are not there. If you take a look in the mirror and take into consideration your success or lack thereof in the USA, and the age difference, you have to ask yourself, what makes you different than the other guys visiting AC to this girl? The answer usually is nothing except that you are with her now and she hopes that you will see again on this trip and maybe will send her money when you are home.

So guys who believe this aren't stupid but just inexperienced. I am an older gent so I have been through this already and have learned my lesson. Not smarter, just more experienced.

[MoonShot]

Living in the USA, my biggest worries were about work. My job caused me a lot of stress. Projects, deadlines, people asking me questions I didn't know how to answer, etc.

I have none of those worries here. Here in AC, my biggest worry is scheduling girls. I have been texting the Perimeter waitress to coordinate the threeway for tomorrow afternoon. Then, out of the blue, the missing Walking Street dancer texted me. Her story is she went to Manila to spend time with her aunt and cousin. Sure. She's going to go sign in to work, come directly to my place, and act like my girlfriend as long as I pay her barfine.

So now my problems are: will she be gone before the next girls arrive tomorrow afternoon? Will I have power to boom boom three girls in one day? And it won't be cheap. Each Perimeter girl is 2,500, and the Walking Street girl is 4,000. The only reason she is 4,000 instead of 5,000 is that she doesn't want to wear a T back bikini.

Your biggest worries in the USA is about work because you are working and the work is causing you a lot of stress. When you go to AC on vacation, you're on vacation and you don't have to worry about work. That is the way it usually is. But I understand that you trying to be funny.

[Expat American]

True.

I can't tell you the number of guys who think that the girl is in love with them and there is some special connection. But as soon as you leave, it is next guy up and she will make him feel the same way and he will be thinking the same thing. Most girls have a number of "special" guys who think they mean more to the girl than other guys. Just part of the game.

Haha. So true. Can't count the number of times I've been fucking some bargirl while she is on the phone with her "BF" in Europe or US telling him she is in the province and no work bar anymore. I just fuck her harder cause its fun watching her try not to squeal while on the phone. Just how desperate do you have to be to think a 20 year old prostitute 10000 miles away is in love with you waiting for your obese 65 year old ass to come back? Its simple. Fuck them, Pay them and Leave them. If you communicate with them after you go home, you are sap and they will take your money.

Last time I was in AC a young white stud brought his "girlfriend" and her "family" to Aqua. It was hilarious watching him trying to impress them with buying drinks and food etc. And they were just looking at him like a pig being fattened for the slaughter.

Guys, if you wouldn't marry a stripper or prostitute in your own country why would you do it here? A little more thinking with the other head PLEASE!

[A Traveler]

Living in the USA, my biggest worries were about work. My job caused me a lot of stress. Projects, deadlines, people asking me questions I didn't know how to answer, etc.

I have none of those worries here. Here in AC, my biggest worry is scheduling girls. I have been texting the Perimeter waitress to coordinate the threeway for tomorrow afternoon. Then, out of the blue, the missing Walking Street dancer texted me. Her story is she went to Manila to spend time with her aunt and cousin. Sure. She's going to go sign in to work, come directly to my place, and act like my girlfriend as long as I pay her barfine.

So now my problems are: will she be gone before the next girls arrive tomorrow afternoon? Will I have power to boom boom three girls in one day? And it won't be cheap. Each Perimeter girl is 2,500, and the Walking Street girl is 4,000. The only reason she is 4,000 instead of 5,000 is that she doesn't want to wear a T back bikini.

[Goferring]

A decent looking sweetie who tries to choke herself to death on my cock is a weak spot for me. LOL, Good times.

Be strong brother, be strong. It's a burden but we do our best.

Ms G Who? Below could BBBJUW* to completion. Now you know why I was so infatuated. 😜.

Cheers. G.

* For the uninitiated that's Bare Back Blow Job Under Water. How she didn't drown, I have no idea.

It wasn't her only skill.

G.

[AggieDad1]

Another big distinction is recognising the difference between affection and being cuntstruck. Not everyone can do it. I don't fall in love but Ill definitely plead guilty to the latter on occasion.

It lead me to paying too much, doing stupid things or other idocy, just to maintain access to a favoured beauty who knows what buttons to press.

Was it worth it?? Of course.

Enjoy. G.

A decent looking sweetie who tries to choke herself to death on my cock is a weak spot for me. LOL, Good times.

[Goferring]

Spot on. Over the years, the number of men...who have confused.....

Another big distinction is recognising the difference between affection and being cuntstruck. Not everyone can do it. I don't fall in love but Ill definitely plead guilty to the latter on occasion.

It lead me to paying too much, doing stupid things or other idocy, just to maintain access to a favoured beauty who knows what buttons to press.

Was it worth it?? Of course.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

I can't tell you the number of guys who think that the girl is in love with them and there is some special connection. But as soon as you leave, it is next guy up and she will make him feel the same way and he will be thinking the same thing. Most girls have a number of "special" guys who think they mean more to the girl than other guys. Just part of the game.

Spot on. Over the years, the number of men (usually complete strangers to me who chat me up while sitting at Kok's or Phillies) who have confused the transactional nature of trading money for sex, with some form of dating, is quite high.

AC is a successful calliope of many disillusioned men who confuse prostitution with dating (or call it 'romance' or 'connection' if you will) mixed with an entire industry exploiting and profiting from the confusion. The people who work there (not the visitors) understand and exploit it well.