Angeles City

[Kaywhy]

Now now WR.

Let's assume he is looking for her with good intentions, maybe it is his ex or want her to be his next. I think he should post his picture too so the Dick Tracy's on the ground can find her and verify him to her.

This could be the first ISG wedding in AC.

We could write, CHRIS FROM Chicago looking for girl in AC under his picture. I mean really, if you don't know her name, you're a nobody to her. No good reason to post her pic on a monger site. Lacking some common sense.

[Dg8787]

Who knows but if she works in bar am sure someone has "been with her" before.

Ad if you can't remember her name or her club why bother to find out unless maybe there is a unusual reason for posting her full face picture on the forum. While some like me cut off faces, others such as Westie blur. You do neither so I am wondering why you need to find someone you seem not to know or remember etc given your limited time in the Philippines.

Now now WR.

Let's assume he is looking for her with good intentions, maybe it is his ex or want her to be his next. I think he should post his picture too so the Dick Tracy's on the ground can find her and verify him to her.

This could be the first ISG wedding in AC.

[Wicked Roger]

Has anybody every been with this girl and remember what club she is at. I can't remember the club she is at.

Who knows but if she works in bar am sure someone has "been with her" before.

Ad if you can't remember her name or her club why bother to find out unless maybe there is a unusual reason for posting her full face picture on the forum. While some like me cut off faces, others such as Westie blur. You do neither so I am wondering why you need to find someone you seem not to know or remember etc given your limited time in the Philippines.

[D Cups]

Right on, Napa Slapper. It's a goldmine.

, many beautiful, educated, willing Pinay girls to be found online, in the malls working at restaurants, call centers etc. IMHO the Phills is a great destination to find attractive, young, slim bed partners, they just are very very few in number that work in the bars of Angeles, changing ones strategy away from the bars and prostitutes constantly gives me great results and mainly at less cost.

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[Red Kilt]

<SNIP>

For the guys like myself and many other board members who have been visiting for almost two decades then the bar scene has had a dramatic change in girl quality, attitude and fun to be had in the bars and back at the room.

Back in the day angeles bars were a serious rival to Pattaya, on some angeles visits I had to pinch my self on the flight home to make sure the amount of true stunning pinays that had rocked my world on that trip were not just a figment of my imagination, that's how good angeles once was.. . <SNIP>. .

Agreed Napa.

I first went to AC in the period 1996-2000 when it was a genuine party town.

Lots of fun, whether alone or in a group.

After a hiatus of several years I returned around 2005 and stayed only one night. I couldn't wait to leave.

The decline was extraordinary.

I've never been back since that visit and I have no intention of ever doing so.

My comment is based on "relative merit".

No doubt guys who didn't know what it used to be like think it's still OK, and that's OK too. This is JMHO.

[Dg8787]

The price of tea in China was so much cheaper 20 years ago. Now it is out of control. I can remember when it was only a few pennies a kilo. And the quality has really gone downhill.

[Cbear13]

Has anybody every been with this girl and remember what club she is at. I can't remember the club she is at.

[Betong]

. . . but t'was ever thus.

GE.

You've got a point but I'd quibble about 'ever'. AC was a very different and generally much more exciting place back in the days when the base was still going. It became something else afterwards, and we are now seeing even that gradually wind down.

That said. . . I still go, though only with friends (can't imagine it solo any more), and I'm willing to spend a lot of time to find somebody a bit special. God knows, it's a lot more of a search than it used to be. But when somebody nice turns up, it's as good as ever. Well, for a few days anyhow.

[NapaSlapper]

Here's a minor contribution to the (seemingly) endless discussion of whether the overall quality of Angeles has declined. I've been going there on and off for seven years or so, and while I enjoy the place when I'm in the company of a colleague or close buddy, for the most part I find it anemic. But my perceptions of the place--seedy, uninteresting restaurants, borderline decrepit bars, endless poorly dressed drunks and bored women shuffling around stage, mediocre hotels--hasn't changed from my first visit through my twentieth or so. The place is what it is; largely point and click for those wanting to get their rocks off quickly. So, the bottom line for me is that it hasn't deteriorated given that it didn't have very far to fall, and it's remained the same pallid imitation of Pattaya since I was introduced to it. Yes, the ladies are "nicer" than in Thailand, more likely to provided the vaunted GFE, and yes the city is a boring, uninteresting slum-like place with little to do, but t'was ever thus.

GE.

GE, have to agree with you on many points.

As per your own admission you have only been going to angeles for a short time, most of that time has been the bar raid period when things started to go down hill fast.

For the guys like myself and many other board members who have been visiting for almost two decades then the bar scene has had a dramatic change in girl quality, attitude and fun to be had in the bars and back at the room.

Back in the day angeles bars were a serious rival to Pattaya, on some angeles visits I had to pinch my self on the flight home to make sure the amount of true stunning pinays that had rocked my world on that trip were not just a figment of my imagination, that's how good angeles once was.

Yes the bars were always run down, the restaurants still served the crap they call food now and the police were just as dodgy as they are now, set ups were rife back then just as they are now, but the girls looks, body and their attitude back at the room was 1st class.

As I said in my trip report, alas angeles is a shadow of former years.

Good news though is that in my 6 week trip I only slept alone on three occasions and that was by choice, many beautiful, educated, willing Pinay girls to be found online, in the malls.

Working at restaurants, call centers etc.

IMHO the Phills is a great destination to find attractive, young, slim bed partners, they just are very very few in number that work in the bars of Angeles, changing ones strategy away from the bars and prostitutes constantly gives me great results and mainly at less cost.

[GoodEnough]

Very good review and reflect my observations, been going AC for years. Quality has fallen dramatically, bar fines up significantly and girl attitudes fallen a lot. There will be guys who think AC is a paradise, as you say, but look at the guys. I suspect the good looking Samar girls have realized that Manila make far more money, the remnants are left in AC. I have left the bar scene and have had a lot of success with real beauties. I still go to the bars for the music and watch the AC schuffle. I never buy drinks, but waItresses in AC and Manila make approaches for off line meetings. So do many restaurant staff. I like these as they can get lined up. They very often are looking for marriage etc. , but obviously I stay vague. They take that as a challenge. And usually try harder. Life is fun.

Here's a minor contribution to the (seemingly) endless discussion of whether the overall quality of Angeles has declined. I've been going there on and off for seven years or so, and while I enjoy the place when I'm in the company of a colleague or close buddy, for the most part I find it anemic. But my perceptions of the place--seedy, uninteresting restaurants, borderline decrepit bars, endless poorly dressed drunks and bored women shuffling around stage, mediocre hotels--hasn't changed from my first visit through my twentieth or so. The place is what it is; largely point and click for those wanting to get their rocks off quickly. So, the bottom line for me is that it hasn't deteriorated given that it didn't have very far to fall, and it's remained the same pallid imitation of Pattaya since I was introduced to it. Yes, the ladies are "nicer" than in Thailand, more likely to provided the vaunted GFE, and yes the city is a boring, uninteresting slum-like place with little to do, but t'was ever thus.

GE.

[ConquerorVal]

Definitely happy with it being my first trip to the Philippines and definitely will be returning.

Nice report. Its refreshing to see some positive reviews, as opposed to the never ending disdain that some ISG members seem to have for AC in their reports.

[X Man]

Thanks for adding details to your AC field report.

On average, Cebu and Davao get less rain than Manila in July and August. Here is a website that makes it fairly easy to make a comparison of different locations.

https://weather-and-climate.com/aver...in-Philippines

Of course the info is just averages. Having an umbrella handy is good advice.

SNIP
Have to say you are wrong to state that the further south would be drier, visited Cebu on same trip and as down south as Davao, rain the same as Luzon. But hey it is rainy season for all the Phills so not sure why you were expecting south to be dry, my advice pack a brolly.

[NapaSlapper]

Yes, it gets rainy in Luzon June thru August. Thanks for the weather report. There is much less rain as you go further south. I'll be in Cebu next month.

The number of quality GROs on duty at 11 pm on a Saturday night and those at 7 pm on a Friday night is different. Very different. The Napa Slap doesn't tell us the time, nor does he identify the hotel he stayed at.

Thanks for your grumpy input as usual x.

Perimeter barhop was on a Saturday afternoon between 2 pm and 7 pm so the busiest day at the busiest times for perimeter afternoon bars.

Fields walking street Saturday evening between 8,30 pm and 1 am again the busiest day of the week at the busiest times.

If its not busy on the prime day of the week at the prime times for both customers and number of girls then maybe its fair to state that the rest of the week would be far worse, possible dead.

Hotel was as always the Lewis grand hotel so yet again one of the most popular if not the most popular hotel in all of Angeles city.

Have to say you are wrong to state that the further south would be drier, visited Cebu on same trip and as down south as Davao, rain the same as Luzon. But hey it is rainy season for all the Phills so not sure why you were expecting south to be dry, my advice pack a brolly.

[X Man]

Yes, it gets rainy in Luzon June thru August. Thanks for the weather report. There is much less rain as you go further south. I'll be in Cebu next month.

The number of quality GROs on duty at 11 pm on a Saturday night and those at 7 pm on a Friday night is different. Very different. The Napa Slap doesn't tell us the time, nor does he identify the hotel he stayed at.

Rain, rain and more rain.

Although my Phills trip was for just under 6 weeks in total I spent only 5 days of it in Angeles city and barhopped only on one afternoon (perimeter) and one evening (fields).

First things first, where have all the westerners gone, very few to be seen in the hotels, bars, mall, would estimate that at least 8 out of 10 guys seen around town were Asian, mainly Korean and Japanese.

The hotel I was staying at has roughly 100 rooms, it seemed that only a very few were actually occupied, the pool was mostly empty and staff were saying they had never seen it so quiet.

Perimeter barhop,

Tried half a dozen of the main popular bars on perimeter, most walked in and walked straight back out, very few bored looking chubby girls doing the ac shuffle, not worth even 1 beer.

Settled on few beers in after school, a Korean owned bar but very friendly staff and management,5 or 6 Korean customers, my small group were the only westerner in there, maybe 15 girls in total, 2 just ok looks and body but not stunners, called one down for a drink, she is 22, from Samar and a great smile, friendly and talkative, only one problem, she is on men and cannot barfine, maybe you come back next week sir she said with a smile, maybe next week you still have men and every week after that was my reply at which she smiled guiltily, my friend had called down the other cutie but she would only agree to short time and refused to give a blow job so he had declined.

Hit a few more perimeter bars, mixture of fatties, fuglies, men girls, cherry girls, bored looking girls and little else.

Walking street night barhop.

I have barhopped on walking street many times over many years and know from experience that there are only a handful of bars where there is a chance of slim young good looking girls and all these bars are owned by the same group (dhg).

Atlantis bar,10-12 Korean customers apart from our group, again we were the only westerners here, quite a few girls in various groups some doing the shows, some parading in moving lines and some standing around the balcony areas.

I am well known in Atlantis by the owners / staff / girls and always made to feel welcome, first round was on management but as a group we stayed for many drinks, bought many girlie drinks and had a good time, of the top looking girls many were claiming to be cherry (virgins) a few drinks only girls and a few chubby plain girls willing to barfine (st only).

Club Asia,

Again only Korean clients, mixture of chubby average looking girls,1 girl that was very cute, tried to get her attention but she would not look my way, asked the waitress about her, sir I call her for you, and so she did but the girl refused to come sit with us, no loss, if she think her shit don't stink then imagine what a crap lay she would be back at the room that's if the princess would accept barfine at all.

All in all.

Very few girls that are slim and attractive to be found anywhere in angeles of these most are excuse girls not to barfine, men, cherry, Korean only, not feeling well etc.

Many guys rave about Angeles city and the thousands of stunning girls to be found there, in truth I just do not see this at all, angeles compared to just a few year ago is a shadow of its former self, very few attractive young slim girls and many excuses not to fuck from these girls is what both me and my group saw.

Many bars were very quiet, some having no customers at all, of the bar owners I do know in angeles most were saying they are just hanging on by putting their hand in their own pocket to cover monthly costs just to stay open, take away the Koreans and in my view none of the bars could survive on just westerners.

[Fastpiston]

Rain, rain and more rain.

Although my Phills trip was for just under 6 weeks in total I spent only 5 days of it in Angeles city and barhopped only on one afternoon (perimeter) and one evening (fields).

First things first, where have all the westerners gone, very few to be seen in the hotels, bars, mall, would estimate that at least 8 out of 10 guys seen around town were Asian, mainly Korean and Japanese.

The hotel I was staying at has roughly 100 rooms, it seemed that only a very few were actually occupied, the pool was mostly empty and staff were saying they had never seen it so quiet.

Perimeter barhop,

Tried half a dozen of the main popular bars on perimeter, most walked in and walked straight back out, very few bored looking chubby girls doing the ac shuffle, not worth even 1 beer.

Settled on few beers in after school, a Korean owned bar but very friendly staff and management,5 or 6 Korean customers, my small group were the only westerner in there, maybe 15 girls in total, 2 just ok looks and body but not stunners, called one down for a drink, she is 22, from Samar and a great smile, friendly and talkative, only one problem, she is on men and cannot barfine, maybe you come back next week sir she said with a smile, maybe next week you still have men and every week after that was my reply at which she smiled guiltily, my friend had called down the other cutie but she would only agree to short time and refused to give a blow job so he had declined.

Hit a few more perimeter bars, mixture of fatties, fuglies, men girls, cherry girls, bored looking girls and little else.

Walking street night barhop.

I have barhopped on walking street many times over many years and know from experience that there are only a handful of bars where there is a chance of slim young good looking girls and all these bars are owned by the same group (dhg).

Atlantis bar,10-12 Korean customers apart from our group, again we were the only westerners here, quite a few girls in various groups some doing the shows, some parading in moving lines and some standing around the balcony areas.

I am well known in Atlantis by the owners / staff / girls and always made to feel welcome, first round was on management but as a group we stayed for many drinks, bought many girlie drinks and had a good time, of the top looking girls many were claiming to be cherry (virgins) a few drinks only girls and a few chubby plain girls willing to barfine (st only).

Club Asia,

Again only Korean clients, mixture of chubby average looking girls,1 girl that was very cute, tried to get her attention but she would not look my way, asked the waitress about her, sir I call her for you, and so she did but the girl refused to come sit with us, no loss, if she think her shit don't stink then imagine what a crap lay she would be back at the room that's if the princess would accept barfine at all.

All in all.

Very few girls that are slim and attractive to be found anywhere in angeles of these most are excuse girls not to barfine, men, cherry, Korean only, not feeling well etc.

Many guys rave about Angeles city and the thousands of stunning girls to be found there, in truth I just do not see this at all, angeles compared to just a few year ago is a shadow of its former self, very few attractive young slim girls and many excuses not to fuck from these girls is what both me and my group saw.

Many bars were very quiet, some having no customers at all, of the bar owners I do know in angeles most were saying they are just hanging on by putting their hand in their own pocket to cover monthly costs just to stay open, take away the Koreans and in my view none of the bars could survive on just westerners.

Very good review and reflect my observations, been going AC for years. Quality has fallen dramatically, bar fines up significantly and girl attitudes fallen a lot. There will be guys who think AC is a paradise, as you say, but look at the guys. I suspect the good looking Samar girls have realized that Manila make far more money, the remnants are left in AC. I have left the bar scene and have had a lot of success with real beauties. I still go to the bars for the music and watch the AC schuffle. I never buy drinks, but waItresses in AC and Manila make approaches for off line meetings. So do many restaurant staff. I like these as they can get lined up. They very often are looking for marriage etc. , but obviously I stay vague. They take that as a challenge. And usually try harder. Life is fun.