Angeles City

[DandyMan51]

Disclaimer: I am writing this while still somewhat drunk from the night. Please excuse any typos or incoherencies.

My last night in Angeles City and the Philippines. I message fellow ISG member Jusride, a solid wingman who I recommend to anyone else on this board, who is going to barfine one of his favorite girls from dollhouse and take her to dinner. We plan on meeting for barhopping later. I decide to go out at around 7:30, a bit early in my opinion but I wanted to see if I could get a girl early. To my surprise I see a number of guys, mainly Koreans, with some very nice eye candy on my trike ride to walking street. In my mind, I think that there must be something special about tonight with so many attractive girls available. Even as I get to walking street I see a number of attractive girls with guys. As I walk into some of the bars, my opinion quickly changes. It was rather bad. Perhaps one of the worst nights I have seen since I have come to AC. I stop by a number of bars, some just to see the selection and some where I have a drink (San Mig Light). Though I don't find anything I particularly like. In my travels I learn that 10 girls have been barfined from XS (an hour after they opened) and 5 girls have been barfined from Avalon in a similar timeframe which explains some of the attractive girls I saw during my entrance to walking street. My final stop is Avalon which I have posted on before. I sit down with a beer and ask for A, my previous multiple time barfine. I am told that she isn't feeling well and is not available and that she will be performing but will likely go home after her performances. Perhaps this is true, perhaps I pissed her off the last time we met, I don't know but it appears I would not be having A for my last night. I sit to watch some performances and in the mean time Jusride finds me in Avalon and sits with me with his girl. I call another girl from the stage over and we talk for a bit. She finishes her drink and she tells me she is going to the bathroom. She goes to the bathroom but then immediately goes back on stage. To me this is unacceptable. I would have considered barfining her but this kind of behavior to me indicates and negative experiences in the future. I continue watching shows and I find one girl I like but am told she is on her period. After the second show, Jusride and his girl head to dollhouse while I stay for the third show. After the third show I am told there will be a fourth and final show for the night after which the dancers will come on stage and be available either for drinks or barfine, depending on the girl. I decide I have had enough. There were some pretty dancers but at this point I have had enough alcohol to be ok with not taking a girl home. I was pretty close to falling asleep and frankly I preferred saving my pesos rather than risk a negative experience. I visited Jusride in dollhouse where his girl tried to hook me up with a girl there. I passed and quickly left to go back to my hotel where I now lie on my bed to write this report. I messaged A on facebook to get some closure on my side as I hoped to at least say a goodbye to her today. Honestly, I write this report as my own personal catharsis rather than trying to add any sort of value to the forum. Though I hope some others may find some useful information from here.

In the end, in AC there are good days and there are bad days. There seems to be some debate between forum users on how good it is in AC and I can understand both sides of it. Some days there are tons of pretty girls and you have a great experience with one of them. Some days you take a pretty girl out, think you did all the right things, only for the experience to be bad once you hit the bedroom. Some days you realize that all the good talent was scooped up by 7 PM and you have little to work with. Depending on the trip and your luck, you may find that some or all of these things happen to you. I wish I had better closure to the trip but in the end I think this was the push I needed to explore other places. I will be travelling to HK tomorrow and potentially to Thailand after that. I have heard from many that Pattaya is better than AC and Bangkok than Manila so I hope to see for myself.

Happy Mongering to all.

Update: A replied back to my facebook message and was sorry about not being able to see me though promised to call when she felt better.

[Sir Lancelot]

photos in the bars are stricty forbidden so not sure why your asking me to photograph the girls in the bar.

So while you repeatedly call everyone else to verify the beauty of their girls by posting photographic evidence, you refuse to do so yourself because you, a long-term resident in Angeles lest we forget, apparently hasn't got one single photo of a beautiful girl he's been with? Hmm.

I do not barfine from the bars as my type of girls in the bars are mostly drinks only girls or virgins.

Runners is one of the most common problems in angeles as many members have said, girls often will promise long time in the bar to secure the deal only to have her clothes on after the 1st pop, nothing can be done about it, no money back from the bar and complain too much and that little princess might cry rape, just let her go is the sensible option.Blow jobs, is getting more rare, especially amongst the younger lookers same for kissing and letting one go down on her, some might allow but don't expect it as normal practise.

And there we have it. You've frequently complained on this forum about poor service from girls and midnight runners (see the bottom quote, from your recent guide to Angeles) and yet it transpires that our resident 'expert' doesn't actually barfine. Why make things up?

[LoveItHere69]

"Bob" (not real name) was a foreigner who I saw 1-2 times a day in my condo lobby or elevator, or walking nearby the condo or mall. For a few weeks we just nodded towards each other as we passed each other. My vaxxing clinic was moving girls in / out most days but I never saw Bob with anyone.

Bob may be staying at a friends condo for free because he has no money. With no money he can not pay for 9's and 10's. He may be brave and talk all kinds of game but actually be afraid to approach women. Bob may not be able to get it up and thus can only window shop. I do not care that you talked to him or that you like him. Bob is a liar. I have ran into each one of these type of guys in the past. I do not care what anyone's taste is because you can find it. I do believe the largest selection of girls can easily be found in Bangkok or Pattaya. He could go there. At age 60 time starts running out faster than money. No way someone is at Pussy Central waiting for 9's and 10's and willing to pass on an 8 and be alone.

[LoveItHere69]

Photos don't have to be naked, I and I'm sure many others will be looking forward to seeing what you guys call stunners.

Where the hell are your pictures? You keep mouthing off but do not practice what you preach.

I will not post pictures because someone will know her and tell her picture was posted on this site so I will lose my turn. If I post a picture and she is indeed hot, someone will surely know her and post where to find her. Thus, I lose my turn. Many guys are delusional in thinking they are not with prostitutes. They are dating good girls. Mr. 14,000 posts who blabs about the doctors and lawyers he dates posted a picture of one of his GFs. Many guys posted back that they had been with her. Ego crushed. I asked him to post more of his GFs but guess he learned his lesson about posting pix. He still thinks he is dating doctors and lawyers though. Another reason I do not post pix is that I do not want to ruin free money these girls are receiving from their stupid Save-A-Ho contributors.

[Expat American]

A related thing. I was going to move this to the Manila thread, as the following happened in Manila (just pre-covid). But it bears out in AC also.

"Bob" (not real name) was a foreigner who I saw 1-2 times a day in my condo lobby or elevator, or walking nearby the condo or mall. Bald, late 60's, in good shape. For a few weeks we just nodded towards each other as we passed each other. One day he was at the front desk inquiring about something, and so was I. He introduced himself as Bob, we shook hands. He seems a good guy. Just a diar-bump and he was off somewhere. After that it was back to nods or "Morning Bob / Westy" in the lobby, nothing more. My vaxxing clinic was moving girls in / out most days but I never saw Bob with anyone. I assumed he had an asawa in his unit.

One night at LAC I entered and went upstairs to peruse, then back downstairs and circumnavigated the round bar. At the rear near the pool table was Bob. He saw me and he moved the girl sitting next to him off a chair and motioned for me to sit with him. I ordered a drink and we kind of quietly sat and oggled the ladies. A cutie went by and I said to him: How about that one? "Nah". A bit later a girl walked by and he said: "That one". She was an attractive 8+ on my scale (I thought my original cutie was just as attractive). My drink arrived and then Bob's 8+ walked by arm-in-arm with a solid 9, and Bob said "THAT ONE!" We laughed. Another girl walked by that I liked and he said: "No". We had both different tastes. We finished and ordered another drink, chatting. Another girl walked by and he said: "That one". Another 8+ on my scale. Go team Bob.

It took us another 20-30 minutes to finish another drink, and I pointed out several more cuties. Bob: "Nah" to all of them. Then the 9 walked by again. Hey Bob, why don't you go get her? Call her over and I will give up my seat for her to sit down. Chat her up. "No. Why don't YOU go get her?" Sorry, I'm just perving tonight, my girl drained my twice this afternoon. I need some rest and I'm heading back to the condo soon. She's all yours. "Well. I do like several girls here. But there aren't enough". Not enough? You pointed out several ladies so far. "No. I prefer 9 or 10 girls to make a choice from. I like a bigger selection. I need to see them".

I was somewhat surprised by what he said. He needs a selection of girls, visible in front of him, to choose from? Like going to a casa or fishbowl? I suggested that he go to a casa as there are some in the area. "I have been. They have girls but they don't have enough girls like those" (pointing to the 8+ and the 9). "That's why I come here on weekends. You can see a lot like those here sometimes". He really DID need a selection of 9's. 7's were not good enough. One 9 and several 8+ were not good enough. I excused myself and taxi'd home.

Another day I was walking out thru the lobby and Bob was walking in. Did you take a girl from LAC? "No. Not enough selection. I taxi'd home after you left". I see. We walked away, and for months I saw Bob almost everyday, always alone. Thus ends my Bob story.

So. Both pre- and post-covid, I've seen FR's (AC, Burgos, etc) where a gent says something like this: "Went into BAR #1, saw only 1 do-able girl, walked out. Went into BAR #2 and had a drink, they had 3 do-able girls and I left. Went into BAR #3 and they had 5 do-able girls. Had a drink with a hottie, but the vibe was wrong, so I bounced. Went into BAR #4 but they only had 3 do-able girls, so I had a couple drinks and just watched the girls. Was getting drunk and went home alone. The bars are a shadow of before, so many fuglies now".

I interrupt this broadcast for an old joke. A hurricane is coming and the homes in the area will flood. The TV news tells everyone to evacuate. A local says: "God will keep me safe". Police vehicles come thru the neighborhood and loudspeaker for everyone to evacuate, offering to take anyone out with them. The local guy says to the police: "God will keep me safe!" The local doesn't evacuate. The rains come and the guy has to crawl onto his roof to stay away from the rising water. A Coast Guard boat comes along and tells the guy to climb down and they will take him away, but he cries out: "God will save me!" Later an Army helicopter comes along and tries to save the gent, but he refuses to go: "God will save me!" Later, as the flood water rises above his home and sweeps him away, he cries out: "God! Save me!" God replies: "Hey, I tried. I sent you a policeman, a car, a boat, and then a helicopter. They are all gone now. Sorry, but don't you think you should have paid attention?" Local: But Lord. . .

When I see gents saying they need 10 girls to see at once (Bob, LAC). Or that they saw 1 do-able bargirl, then 3, then 5, then 3, all in the same night, it says to me that he ignored 10-12 beauties (no kidding, blaming the bars for the decline in skinny flesh), losing a beauty -- tonight! -- to gain some rum / coke buzz. I want to say: You are OK with THIS happening on your 2-week warrior timeframe? Failure to capitalize in a target-rich environment that you don't have at home? I am with Sir Lance: There are enough attractive girls in most every bar (it only takes 1 lady) that most every gent will find something. If you can't find it in THIS bar, then you will find it in THAT bar. If you see 1 or more that floats your boat in each of several different bars and you don't take any of them, shouldn't you have paid attention? We often talk about the Western woman's sense of entitlement. What about ours?

We have established the large % of 1-2-week punters (often splitting 1 week each in Burgos / AC), who utilize the bars and SW as their only venue for hunting. At the same time I watch them not take advantage of the bars or SW. Its difficult to watch the fellas complain about barfine prices (I don't like the AC price increase either), then go to AC anyway and not take a girl (of the several that he likes) because of flesh decline or high prices. If a bar has 30 girls, and (to you) 5 are do-able girls out of the 30 gals (25 fuglies); isn't that the same as 30 do-able girls out of 30 do-able girls? You are only looking for 1 girl at a time (unless you are like that perv Westy guy and need a 3-some). Eventually you end up like Bob. TALK ABOUT ENTITLEMENT!

This Bob. Bob flew 8000 miles and paid thousands of dollars to come to the Philippines. Bob is very picky and can't find a girl to fuck among thousands of young available women. Bob goes back to his hotel every night and jerks off. Don't be like Bob.

[LoneRangers]

I met some really nice Koreans. Said no one ever.

Jealousy is a stinky cologne Beavis. I've met plenty of nice Koreans, just because we don't like how they spend their money doesn't mean they're bad people.

[WestCoast1]

I've had a fantastic time in Angeles and met some beautiful girls. People who continually drone on about the lack of pretty girls are either incredibly short-sighted or have an agenda to discourage people from visiting (financial stake in a bar in Pattaya perhaps?). There are plenty of lookers and almost every bar has a hidden gem or two. Certainly in some respects the place is still bouncing back after covid but if you come to Angeles you will have no shortage of great girls and great sex.

I think you will find in the real workd every one has a taste in girls, some guys have great taste and some guys have terrible taste in girls. Have many bar hop friends that can't find what they like in a angeles bars and also have a couple who find multiple girls they like, depending on a guys taste in women will directly affect the girls one will find or not in the bars.

A related thing. I was going to move this to the Manila thread, as the following happened in Manila (just pre-covid). But it bears out in AC also.

"Bob" (not real name) was a foreigner who I saw 1-2 times a day in my condo lobby or elevator, or walking nearby the condo or mall. Bald, late 60's, in good shape. For a few weeks we just nodded towards each other as we passed each other. One day he was at the front desk inquiring about something, and so was I. He introduced himself as Bob, we shook hands. He seems a good guy. Just a diar-bump and he was off somewhere. After that it was back to nods or "Morning Bob / Westy" in the lobby, nothing more. My vaxxing clinic was moving girls in / out most days but I never saw Bob with anyone. I assumed he had an asawa in his unit.

One night at LAC I entered and went upstairs to peruse, then back downstairs and circumnavigated the round bar. At the rear near the pool table was Bob. He saw me and he moved the girl sitting next to him off a chair and motioned for me to sit with him. I ordered a drink and we kind of quietly sat and oggled the ladies. A cutie went by and I said to him: How about that one? "Nah". A bit later a girl walked by and he said: "That one". She was an attractive 8+ on my scale (I thought my original cutie was just as attractive). My drink arrived and then Bob's 8+ walked by arm-in-arm with a solid 9, and Bob said "THAT ONE!" We laughed. Another girl walked by that I liked and he said: "No". We had both different tastes. We finished and ordered another drink, chatting. Another girl walked by and he said: "That one". Another 8+ on my scale. Go team Bob.

It took us another 20-30 minutes to finish another drink, and I pointed out several more cuties. Bob: "Nah" to all of them. Then the 9 walked by again. Hey Bob, why don't you go get her? Call her over and I will give up my seat for her to sit down. Chat her up. "No. Why don't YOU go get her?" Sorry, I'm just perving tonight, my girl drained my twice this afternoon. I need some rest and I'm heading back to the condo soon. She's all yours. "Well. I do like several girls here. But there aren't enough". Not enough? You pointed out several ladies so far. "No. I prefer 9 or 10 girls to make a choice from. I like a bigger selection. I need to see them".

I was somewhat surprised by what he said. He needs a selection of girls, visible in front of him, to choose from? Like going to a casa or fishbowl? I suggested that he go to a casa as there are some in the area. "I have been. They have girls but they don't have enough girls like those" (pointing to the 8+ and the 9). "That's why I come here on weekends. You can see a lot like those here sometimes". He really DID need a selection of 9's. 7's were not good enough. One 9 and several 8+ were not good enough. I excused myself and taxi'd home.

Another day I was walking out thru the lobby and Bob was walking in. Did you take a girl from LAC? "No. Not enough selection. I taxi'd home after you left". I see. We walked away, and for months I saw Bob almost everyday, always alone. Thus ends my Bob story.

So. Both pre- and post-covid, I've seen FR's (AC, Burgos, etc) where a gent says something like this: "Went into BAR #1, saw only 1 do-able girl, walked out. Went into BAR #2 and had a drink, they had 3 do-able girls and I left. Went into BAR #3 and they had 5 do-able girls. Had a drink with a hottie, but the vibe was wrong, so I bounced. Went into BAR #4 but they only had 3 do-able girls, so I had a couple drinks and just watched the girls. Was getting drunk and went home alone. The bars are a shadow of before, so many fuglies now".

I interrupt this broadcast for an old joke. A hurricane is coming and the homes in the area will flood. The TV news tells everyone to evacuate. A local says: "God will keep me safe". Police vehicles come thru the neighborhood and loudspeaker for everyone to evacuate, offering to take anyone out with them. The local guy says to the police: "God will keep me safe!" The local doesn't evacuate. The rains come and the guy has to crawl onto his roof to stay away from the rising water. A Coast Guard boat comes along and tells the guy to climb down and they will take him away, but he cries out: "God will save me!" Later an Army helicopter comes along and tries to save the gent, but he refuses to go: "God will save me!" Later, as the flood water rises above his home and sweeps him away, he cries out: "God! Save me!" God replies: "Hey, I tried. I sent you a policeman, a car, a boat, and then a helicopter. They are all gone now. Sorry, but don't you think you should have paid attention?" Local: But Lord. . .

When I see gents saying they need 10 girls to see at once (Bob, LAC). Or that they saw 1 do-able bargirl, then 3, then 5, then 3, all in the same night, it says to me that he ignored 10-12 beauties (no kidding, blaming the bars for the decline in skinny flesh), losing a beauty -- tonight! -- to gain some rum / coke buzz. I want to say: You are OK with THIS happening on your 2-week warrior timeframe? Failure to capitalize in a target-rich environment that you don't have at home? I am with Sir Lance: There are enough attractive girls in most every bar (it only takes 1 lady) that most every gent will find something. If you can't find it in THIS bar, then you will find it in THAT bar. If you see 1 or more that floats your boat in each of several different bars and you don't take any of them, shouldn't you have paid attention? We often talk about the Western woman's sense of entitlement. What about ours?

We have established the large % of 1-2-week punters (often splitting 1 week each in Burgos / AC), who utilize the bars and SW as their only venue for hunting. At the same time I watch them not take advantage of the bars or SW. Its difficult to watch the fellas complain about barfine prices (I don't like the AC price increase either), then go to AC anyway and not take a girl (of the several that he likes) because of flesh decline or high prices. If a bar has 30 girls, and (to you) 5 are do-able girls out of the 30 gals (25 fuglies); isn't that the same as 30 do-able girls out of 30 do-able girls? You are only looking for 1 girl at a time (unless you are like that perv Westy guy and need a 3-some). Eventually you end up like Bob. TALK ABOUT ENTITLEMENT!

[Dg8787]

If you had read my recent posts I clearly state that I use the bars for socialising with friends and business outings, I do not barfine from the bars as my type of girls in the bars are mostly drinks only girls or virgins, as you well know, photos in the bars are stricty forbidden so not sure why your asking me to photograph the girls in the bar.

I think its the guys like your good self that claim that there are stunners in angeles to meet should be posting photos for reference, a couple of thousand posts and not one photo of your claims to stunners.

Photos don't have to be naked, I and I'm sure many others will be looking forward to seeing what you guys call stunners.

Yes, your business with 200 employees that you had continued to pay their full salaries during the year long lockdown. Quite admirable of you! Also your claim that no one was starving during the lockdown.

My posts speak for itself from actual experience. I merely ask you to post some pictures so there could be a baseline for further comparison on your behalf. I am happy with who I barfine as most other guys.

If you really want to see, I will let you hide behind the curtain in the hotel room the next time I am fucking an AC bar girl and get your rating.

[Beavis]

Disclaimer: This is a list of my personal favorite bars to go to. It is holistic but some of the things I factor in are ambiance, service quality of the servers, quality of the girls appearances, and overall fun I have had. I don't consider things like price or quality of the girls service. Naturally YMMV as everyone has different tastes. I haven't been to all of the bars so there may be some excellent ones I haven't noted.

Honorable mentions:

Cosplay bar- The name says it all. The girls are in cosplay which I quite enjoy. Nothing special about it beyond that but something a bit different.

Gold bar- I have seen this place with a number of quite attractive girls on stage and the place generally looks pretty nice but the girls seemed bored and I really can't find myself enjoying it. Maybe a good place to barfine an attractive girl and leave but not a place I could stay for long.

Q bar- This place gets a spot here because of the DJ. I only visited once but when the DJ heard I love Latino music he basically played only that for the duration I was there. Quality of the girls is ok but I kept getting harassed for drinks which annoyed me.

Top 5:

5. Arabesque- The place has some performances which are pretty good and a good number of girls. It tends to be one of the first places I visit as many of the more attractive girls get barfined early.

4. Club Sky- What set club sky apart for me was the MC. He breathed energy into the place and I feel like the girls reciprocated. I sang karaoke with some of the girls while there and they seemed to be having fun.

3. Dollhouse- Probably the best typical gogo bar out there. They don't really have any special performances but they do have presentations for each of the girls which are pretty cool. High number of girls means you are likely to find someone you like and service has generally been pretty good. Second floor is nice with the dance cages. Definitely recommend for first time visitors, just not my personal favorite bar.

2. XS- Objectively, this place is probably better than my number one but I haven't visited enough times to place it higher. It also tends to get rather full making it hard to snag a table. This place feels like a club though you don't have to pay for the tables outside of your drink. Very similar to my number one and a number of the girls from my number one come from XS. The place also has very good performances, high quality girls and high quality service.

1. Avalon- I absolutely love this place. Part of it comes down to the fact that my favorite girl (who I barfined three times already, works there). Though the other part of it comes down to their performances. The dancers do three sets a night and I genuinely enjoy them as they are well choreographed and honestly something I would consider paying for even outside of a gogo bar. Not all the girls can be barfined including some of the most beautiful ones. This place tends to be more Korean oriented but I tend to have similar tastes to the Koreans so I'm not complaining. My recommendation would be to go to Dollhouse if you want to barfine but come here if you want to watch some pretty cool performances.

Overall:

Tonight will be my last night in both AC and the Philippines potentially for a while. There are definitely pros and cons to this place. I am happy I visited here but am not sure if / when I will come back. Prices are also comparatively high. Between lady drinks, personal drinks, hotel, transportation, food and tips I tended to spend between $150-$200/ day here. Girls tend to be hit or miss but you won't know for sure until you have already invested over $100 into them. I will likely post a full review on my thoughts on AC sometime in the near future.

I met some really nice Koreans. Said no one ever.

[DandyMan51]

Disclaimer: This is a list of my personal favorite bars to go to. It is holistic but some of the things I factor in are ambiance, service quality of the servers, quality of the girls appearances, and overall fun I have had. I don't consider things like price or quality of the girls service. Naturally YMMV as everyone has different tastes. I haven't been to all of the bars so there may be some excellent ones I haven't noted.

Honorable mentions:

Cosplay bar- The name says it all. The girls are in cosplay which I quite enjoy. Nothing special about it beyond that but something a bit different.

Gold bar- I have seen this place with a number of quite attractive girls on stage and the place generally looks pretty nice but the girls seemed bored and I really can't find myself enjoying it. Maybe a good place to barfine an attractive girl and leave but not a place I could stay for long.

Q bar- This place gets a spot here because of the DJ. I only visited once but when the DJ heard I love Latino music he basically played only that for the duration I was there. Quality of the girls is ok but I kept getting harassed for drinks which annoyed me.

Top 5:

5. Arabesque- The place has some performances which are pretty good and a good number of girls. It tends to be one of the first places I visit as many of the more attractive girls get barfined early.

4. Club Sky- What set club sky apart for me was the MC. He breathed energy into the place and I feel like the girls reciprocated. I sang karaoke with some of the girls while there and they seemed to be having fun.

3. Dollhouse- Probably the best typical gogo bar out there. They don't really have any special performances but they do have presentations for each of the girls which are pretty cool. High number of girls means you are likely to find someone you like and service has generally been pretty good. Second floor is nice with the dance cages. Definitely recommend for first time visitors, just not my personal favorite bar.

2. XS- Objectively, this place is probably better than my number one but I haven't visited enough times to place it higher. It also tends to get rather full making it hard to snag a table. This place feels like a club though you don't have to pay for the tables outside of your drink. Very similar to my number one and a number of the girls from my number one come from XS. The place also has very good performances, high quality girls and high quality service.

1. Avalon- I absolutely love this place. Part of it comes down to the fact that my favorite girl (who I barfined three times already, works there). Though the other part of it comes down to their performances. The dancers do three sets a night and I genuinely enjoy them as they are well choreographed and honestly something I would consider paying for even outside of a gogo bar. Not all the girls can be barfined including some of the most beautiful ones. This place tends to be more Korean oriented but I tend to have similar tastes to the Koreans so I'm not complaining. My recommendation would be to go to Dollhouse if you want to barfine but come here if you want to watch some pretty cool performances.

Overall:

Tonight will be my last night in both AC and the Philippines potentially for a while. There are definitely pros and cons to this place. I am happy I visited here but am not sure if / when I will come back. Prices are also comparatively high. Between lady drinks, personal drinks, hotel, transportation, food and tips I tended to spend between $150-$200/ day here. Girls tend to be hit or miss but you won't know for sure until you have already invested over $100 into them. I will likely post a full review on my thoughts on AC sometime in the near future.

[NapaSlapper]

I don't know what you guys are complaining about. We should be rallying our support behind Mr Slappa. I remember when Mindanao was far too scary and out of the way for monger visitors. Didn't that play right into the hands of the brave few fortunate to live or visit there!

Now repeat after me: "AC is a shithole, where only Koreans get passable girls. The only option to get laid is to settle for cast offs in the bars. Besides the overpriced bars, there is no other way to get laid in town. ".

Remember that the more we spread the word and stay on key, the more there will be for us. 😜.

Enjoy. G.

Never knew that Mindanao was a paradise for bars and girls last time I was there there were only 2 bars with girls, both bars called lips, was not impressed, even Angeles is far better.

On the subject of Angeles, I think you will find that most punters are Koreans / Asians, the western punters deserted Angeles for good reason years before covid so any claims of one is bad mouthing Angeles to keep punters away is delusional.

Koreans visit Angeles for very short periods mainly for golf, the casinos and business meetings, bars and mongering is far down the list of wants, although they do visit the bars on occasions, so no amount of trying to keep Angeles bars to ones self will stop the Koreans / Asians visiting in high number because they are going to come anyways.

As far as no other way to get laid in Angeles you previously said that you don't often visit Angeles and if you do you do not go to the bars but you rely on other means to get your girls, mostly online, there obviously must be a reason you do not get your girls from the bars, maybe I'm right all along in saying Angeles bars offer little to the little bit fussy punter? Other wise you would visit and get your girls from the bars.

For guys like myself and most other Angeles expats we have the time and invest that time in securing nice looking non pros for live in girlfriends or wives, most even have a book of back up non pros, hence our reluctance to lower our standards in the bars, most don't need to as are happy with what they have at home.

I am truly happy to leave all the bar runners, drinks only girls, Korean only girls, cherrie girls and the pay before barfines to those that want to visit and take part in what the bars offer.

[Goferring]

There are plenty of young, cute girls in Angeles. Sadly Napa struggles to find them ....

Yes, NS has scared off the never been to AC. Those that have been experience a different reality.

I don't know what you guys are complaining about. We should be rallying our support behind Mr Slappa. I remember when Mindanao was far too scary and out of the way for monger visitors. Didn't that play right into the hands of the brave few fortunate to live or visit there!

Now repeat after me: "AC is a shithole, where only Koreans get passable girls. The only option to get laid is to settle for cast offs in the bars. Besides the overpriced bars, there is no other way to get laid in town. ".

Remember that the more we spread the word and stay on key, the more there will be for us. 😜.

Enjoy. G.

[NapaSlapper]

If you follow your flawed logic then why have sex with any girl in Angeles?

I think you will find that not all girls that live in the greater Angeles area are prostitutes, in fact only a minute percentage are such.

Those of us that live and work here on a permanent basis including many expat friends have the time to meet and date girls that have nothing to do with prostitution.

Of course I and many enjoy kissing and having sex with our own girlfriends and wives that have nothing to do with the bars, but to stick my tongue into a pros mouth, not for all the tea in China thanks, ill leave that to others that enjoy such.

[NapaSlapper]

Yes, NS has scared off the never been to AC. Those that have been experience a different reality.

I will be back soon and already have a few new 18-20 yo lined up thru the Friends and Family Plan. Along with some of the previous ones. My card is so booked up that I may not need to step in to a bar on this upcoming trip.

NS, please post some pictures of your girls so we can establish a baseline of 7-8-9-10 beauties.

If you had read my recent posts I clearly state that I use the bars for socialising with friends and business outings, I do not barfine from the bars as my type of girls in the bars are mostly drinks only girls or virgins, as you well know, photos in the bars are stricty forbidden so not sure why your asking me to photograph the girls in the bar.

I think its the guys like your good self that claim that there are stunners in angeles to meet should be posting photos for reference, a couple of thousand posts and not one photo of your claims to stunners.

Photos don't have to be naked, I and I'm sure many others will be looking forward to seeing what you guys call stunners.

[NapaSlapper]

There are plenty of young, cute girls in Angeles. Sadly Napa struggles to find them but the large majority of people who have left reports recently, myself included, have had plenty of luck finding pretty 18-22 year old girls. You don't need to be Korean, you just need to smile and have good vibes. Angeles is like a sweet shop at the moment.

I think you will find in the real workd every one has a taste in girls, some guys have great taste and some guys have terrible taste in girls.

Have many bar hop friends that can't find what they like in a angeles bars and also have a couple who find multiple girls they like, depending on a guys taste in women will directly affect the girls one will find or not in the bars.

Its very easy for guys to claim on a faceless board, my girls were stunners, my girls were all young, my girls looked like a famous model etc but the same guys never post a photo of such.

Why are photos important.

The reason photos are important when guys claim to find stunners in the bars of Angeles is to help the board and its members to decide if that quality of girl is worth spending thousands of dollars and a very long trip only to be disappointed in what they actually find once there, so very important I would say, after all, this board is called international sex guide for a reason, that reason is for board members to advise others on the type of girls that can be found and photos would play a big part in that of course, as they say, a photo is worth a 1000 words.

As far as your claim that angeles is like a sweet shop at the moment I'm confused how you would know considering your very short trip was some weeks ago and your now back in the uk, angeles and girls change day to day, a cute girl in a bar today might not be working there tomorrow, so unless one is actually here then no way of knowing what's happening on the ground as of today, to claim anything else would be misleading.