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  1. #26236
    Quote Originally Posted by ForkTruck  [View Original Post]
    Factoid worth mentioning: In the USA There is mounting evidence that COVID19 is no more fatal than the annual flu. Surprising to me bcuz millions have had the FLU shot and it still kills tens of thousands each year just in the USA, particularly in the same at risks groups. Makes me wonder if the flu shot does anything.
    Do you normally see coffins stacked high and burying victims in parks with the flu? Your factoid may be a bit old ie Feb 2020. Do consider that covid has been killing for ONE month in USA and you are comparing against a 12 month average. Try letting Covid-19 run wild for 12 months without distancing (as flu does without lockdown). Do you normally see coffins stacked high and burying victims in parks with the flu?

  2. #26235
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    This is the Stricter Enhanced order effective April 15-30,2020 by the Angeles City Mayor. I tried to upload it here but wasn't able to. It is 3 pages long.
    https://www.facebook.com/pg/LungsodNgAngeles/posts/

    While their facebook pages shows a mere handful of new cases, 'persons under monitoring.'

  3. #26234
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    The whole purpose of the lockdowns world wide is not to eradicate the virus, but to flatten the curve to the level that there is sufficient medical care available for those who are sick.
    Agreed: As KG stated Govt's worldwide did the lock downs to slow the spread to keep their healthcare industries from collapsing on their watch, using fear to protect the industry and it has worked brilliantly. They never intended to stop the spread as that is not possible and they know it. Over the next 12 to 24 months virtually everyone will have been exposed as we go back to normal life. Hiding at home will keep it away but at what human cost?

    Factoid worth mentioning: In the USA There is mounting evidence that COVID19 is no more fatal than the annual flu. Surprising to me bcuz millions have had the FLU shot and it still kills tens of thousands each year just in the USA, particularly in the same at risks groups. Makes me wonder if the flu shot does anything.

  4. #26233
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    It has been the same way in my girlfriend's town for at least 2 weeks already. They have certain days that one family member can go to the store. The last day they had it, her mom decided to have the groceries delivered instead.
    This is the Stricter Enhanced order effective April 15-30,2020 by the Angeles City Mayor. I tried to upload it here but wasn't able to. It is 3 pages long.

  5. #26232
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    As of yesterday, April 15 local time AC was placed into 24 hour curfew by the orders of the Mayor. The curfew order is thru April 30,2020.
    It has been the same way in my girlfriend's town for at least 2 weeks already. They have certain days that one family member can go to the store. The last day they had it, her mom decided to have the groceries delivered instead.

  6. #26231
    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis  [View Original Post]
    That rumor has been circling everywhere. Is fake news, not true at all.
    Those in AC or have close contacts in AC would know this.

    As of yesterday, April 15 local time AC was placed into 24 hour curfew by the orders of the Mayor. The curfew order is thru April 30,2020.

  7. #26230
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    My guess will be until end of May and then on limited relaxation of the lockdown. All the reading I have done says that too early a release of lockdown will result in a second wave.

    However that may not be a bad thing, as more people are infected and recovered herd immunity will start to take effect.

    The whole purpose of the lockdowns world wide is not to eradicate the virus, but to flatten the curve to the level that there is sufficient medical care available for those who are sick. I do not anticipate a full world wide lockdown release until either there is a virus or enough people have recovered and are immune to slow the spread that way. Both conditions are not mutually exclusive and IMHO will take at least 18 months to be realized.

    Lets hope that the government funding and aid is delivered quickly. I am hearing from just about every girl I contact that they are hurting, hungry and that the local officials are corruptly keeping the relief supplies.
    I think it will last way past May KG. This article sent to me by GE says what I have been hearing and thinking. Today's COVID 19 cases in the slums / squatter area in Cebu (Zapetero) is proof this is a major problem for the country as the health care system is barely adequate IMHO to cope now let alone with huge numbers many expect especially out in the provinces.

    https://www.esquiremag.ph/life/healt...00289-20200415

  8. #26229
    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyPete  [View Original Post]
    If that article is true, then antibody tests will be useless.
    This from CNN despite the Trump and his VP claiming test 'very soon' Just like his claim we have zero or one case and it will go away very soon.

    Personally I listen to science and doctors on this not the Trump and his cronies. Fox News did a piece on why the malaria drug was great but look at facts (which it / others never do0 the sample size was fixed to ignore deaths and those in ICU with COVID 19.

    So this article and SP's one is more realistic sadly.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/14/h...sts/index.html

  9. #26228
    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Think you will find that people who tested positive only to recover and test negative have tested positive again after a few weeks.

    https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/c...rates-increase

    There is no herd immunity, this will be over once they find a cure or immunization, maybe some 12 months away due to months of testing needed before allowed to be used on general public.

    Although banks, supermarkets, hospitals are open the streets of Angeles city are deserted night and day, ex bargirls / freelancers / online girls have left town for their own province.

    Don't expect things to get back to normal in Angeles for many many months.
    If that article is true, then antibody tests will be useless.

  10. #26227

    Herd immunity?

    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    My guess will be until end of May and then on limited relaxation of the lockdown. All the reading I have done says that too early a release of lockdown will result in a second wave.

    However that may not be a bad thing, as more people are infected and recovered herd immunity will start to take effect.

    The whole purpose of the lockdowns world wide is not to eradicate the virus, but to flatten the curve to the level that there is sufficient medical care available for those who are sick. I do not anticipate a full world wide lockdown release until either there is a virus or enough people have recovered and are immune to slow the spread that way. Both conditions are not mutually exclusive and IMHO will take at least 18 months to be realized.

    Lets hope that the government funding and aid is delivered quickly. I am hearing from just about every girl I contact that they are hurting, hungry and that the local officials are corruptly keeping the relief supplies.
    Think you will find that people who tested positive only to recover and test negative have tested positive again after a few weeks.

    https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/c...rates-increase

    There is no herd immunity, this will be over once they find a cure or immunization, maybe some 12 months away due to months of testing needed before allowed to be used on general public.

    Although banks, supermarkets, hospitals are open the streets of Angeles city are deserted night and day, ex bargirls / freelancers / online girls have left town for their own province.

    Don't expect things to get back to normal in Angeles for many many months.

  11. #26226
    Quote Originally Posted by Issaquah  [View Original Post]
    Lockdown is continuing until at least April 30th pretty much as is and may get extended again depending on infection rates as we get closer to the end of the month. Grocery stores, pharmacies, etc. Will remain open. The government is also working on a relief package to provide some funds (5 k - 7 k) to each person plus food banks for the poor. My source is directly from government officials that are part of the committees making these decisions.
    My guess will be until end of May and then on limited relaxation of the lockdown. All the reading I have done says that too early a release of lockdown will result in a second wave.

    However that may not be a bad thing, as more people are infected and recovered herd immunity will start to take effect.

    The whole purpose of the lockdowns world wide is not to eradicate the virus, but to flatten the curve to the level that there is sufficient medical care available for those who are sick. I do not anticipate a full world wide lockdown release until either there is a virus or enough people have recovered and are immune to slow the spread that way. Both conditions are not mutually exclusive and IMHO will take at least 18 months to be realized.

    Lets hope that the government funding and aid is delivered quickly. I am hearing from just about every girl I contact that they are hurting, hungry and that the local officials are corruptly keeping the relief supplies.

  12. #26225
    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis  [View Original Post]
    That rumor has been circling everywhere. Is fake news, not true at all.
    I am no so sure it is fake news. Will find out in a few days.

    Oth, limited trikes are allowed to operate. The a-holes have upped the price to 150 php from 100 php.

  13. #26224

    Extreme Lockdown. No real changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Should I take your word for it or perhaps Butthead could corroborate.
    Lockdown is continuing until at least April 30th pretty much as is and may get extended again depending on infection rates as we get closer to the end of the month. Grocery stores, pharmacies, etc. Will remain open. The government is also working on a relief package to provide some funds (5 k - 7 k) to each person plus food banks for the poor. My source is directly from government officials that are part of the committees making these decisions.

  14. #26223
    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis  [View Original Post]
    That rumor has been circling everywhere. Is fake news, not true at all.
    Should I take your word for it or perhaps Butthead could corroborate.

  15. #26222
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    I heard from Pinay that Angeles will have complete lockdown with all stores closed including grocery stores.

    Anyone can confirm this?
    That rumor has been circling everywhere. Is fake news, not true at all.

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