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  1. #30559

    Attractive

    Quote Originally Posted by Robotron  [View Original Post]
    Is it just me or are all of these women unattractive and what separates them from those other countries like Thailand is the effort in bed? I don't get it. I don't have access to fully view photos yet while looking at the photo galleries all I see is flat chested old women or young girls who look like they're straight from the 2000's.

    Help me understand the hype surrounding the Philippines or show some stunners who are stacked, whether escort examples or personal photos and where to find them if I ever visit.
    Attractive or not is in the eye of the beholder, take example here of the recent girls photos posted that guys claim are attractive, some would spend thousands of dollars and fly around the world for such quality, in truth I and many others would not even drive the 10 minutes it would take me to reach angeles for this quality of girl, but each to their own.

    Always found by me and many friends, those that set the girl bar to low are having the best time in angeles, those that are just a little more fussy in their bed partners are not happy at all in angeles.

    As far as comparing pattaya or Bangkok for that matter to angeles then angeles does not compare on any front, not the girls, infrastructure, the food, the quality and price of hotels, things to do when not drinking in bars, personal safety etc.

    Angeles is fine if one has money to burn, does not take exception to being refused barfine by many of the slightly better looking girls, having to bar hop many bars to find slim young fairly attractive girls, then having to wade ones way through the countless cherry girls, constant mens girls, early runner girls, drinks only girls, korean only girls etc of angeles.

    The biggest difference between the two places is that in angeles if one can actually get a reasonably attractive girl to barfine (most if not all are asian only girls) then one has to pay the full barfine including the bar and girls share up front before leaving the bar opening one up to no recourse should things not work out back at the room.

    Thailand on the other hand is pay the smaller bar fine share at the bar and pay the much larger share directly to the girls once the deed has been done and one is happy.

    Please make a trip to both, see what you think, please come back and give us your thoughts.

  2. #30558
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you got the name wrong because I think Club Asia has been closed for several years. What was the location?
    Its club asia adjacent maybe dragons den but I lump them together there are girls who try to usher you in and a guard but the place reeks. Even if Club asia is closed from the outside it has an extremely bad odor coming from it. While I was there this section of the street was just full of trash. Kind of nasty to be honest maybe trash was on strike that week.

  3. #30557

    Niftys and Rio

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    Let's talk about the perimeter.
    The 2 bars next to Garfield's I call them Green and Red .
    I believe they are called Niftys and Rio, been around for decades.

  4. #30556

    Night Moves

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    Let's talk about the perimeter.

    A little further down nearer to the new margarita station XXX and a few biker bars which is not my scene so I usually don't go in these is not too bad the quality of girls alone this strip suffers but makes up for it in lower bar fines around the 2500-3500 area.
    I believe the "Biker bar" you mention is called Night Moves and yeah, it is owned by a well know group of bikers with patches. But in spite of that its probably the best bar in that area. They have some cute girls in there and I've never had a problem with the owners or clientele. Shit, one of the owners even called a trike for me after I barfined a girl.

  5. #30555

    Club Asia?

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]

    Club asia smells horrible like several people died in that place and were left to rot. I don't know what's going on with this place but easy pass.
    Maybe you got the name wrong because I think Club Asia has been closed for several years. What was the location?

  6. #30554
    I've barfined from most of the bars on WS, and the 'green' bar you speak of on perimeter. Check my earlier post, that was quite an adventure. Good memories and good sex but damn that room is a creepshow. But hey that's part of the charm. I've never had a bad experience from Lollipop, Masquerade, Qbar, or Shooters. That's not to say I haven't had good experiences from others, but these are generally a sure thing. Damn I want to get back soon. The US is so boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    I will preface this with I was pressed for time this trip so all my encounters were ST and I paid around the same price at all the bars give or take a K around 5 k. I tip around 0-1 k depending on if they do what I ask and how pleased I am with their work.

    AC is still imo a great hunting ground with a lot of willing and attractive girls.

    Club asia smells horrible like several people died in that place and were left to rot. I don't know what's going on with this place but easy pass.

    Barfined a girl from vikings all most always do but this was one of the most disastrous barfines I have had in a while was a horrible time. This girl wanted covered BJ and no DATY or kissing of any kind. A big red flag is if they are in an "open relationship" with another monger I didn't know this until I had my dick in hand chatting with her about "life". They negotiate a sponsorship deal and continue to work at the bar. That's what you get with these hotter looking girls I usually don't partake in these "hot" looking girls and for good reason I wasn't happy she asked for a tip and I said "go play in traffic" which flew over this very "smart" girls head as she walked out of my life hopefully I never see this girl again would be a reminder of my failure to filter out these loonies. Felt more like a doctor exam like I was getting milked than sex.

    Barfined a girl from Skyfalls bar she was extremely sweet and easy going made for an amazing fuck. Had an amazing relaxed and passionate session just what I needed not a bad selection of girls at this bar I would go back the next trip. I don't know where these new crop of girls got their moves but they try to rip your dick out at the root. Its fun until fear takes over that I'm going to sprain my dick. How do I explain that one?

    Geckos no bar fine here but a honorable mention is sill a great bar has been the most fun place to hang out for a western foreigner for more than 20 years and still is. Was the first bar I ever barfiend from back in the day and is still going strong. I'm glad to see this. Any of you guys who keep the light on at this place hats off to you. It's a sanctuary in a sea of some dreary Korean owned bars.

    Barfiend a girl from the bar in between soya and ace can't remember the name but they have more than a few bar fineable girls at this bar. Had a good time she was very accommodating and over all solid bar fine can't complain about this one. She had a big smile on her face while she gave head all the way until I came in her can't beat that.

    Final bar fine was at club sky was a massive mistake they lied about how new she was and how she didn't have a baby. Club sky has fallen from grace and I most likely will take a pass on it the next time. Even though they have 1 or 2 other girls I would be interested in I wasn't happy with the misinformation. This girl just wanted to get my dick in her mouth and when we started fucking all she could say was faster at first I thought she was into it but I soon was deflated and she was telling me to hurry up and cum. She just kept saying my dick was too big? Here is a secret guys (it small) this is my selling point to girls who are scared of western guys I say I have a small dick and show it and they usually give me a pass. If this girl was fucking guys with a smaller dick than me they wouldn't be able to get a full stroke in. I don't have a micro penis but its not large by any means. Was a buzz kill because she kept trying to hurry shit up.

    On the topic of korean owned bars. The girls I've spoken to are starting to turn on the korean owners. This is NOT a racist jab its just what these girls are saying. They say they are mayabang. Which translates to "arrogant". Don't shoot the messenger I am just relaying what these girls are saying. A lot of these girls are transplants from the Korean KTVs from Korea town and in koreatown you pay about 5-6 k for the drinks and selection fees ect. And the bar fines for koreans only is about 10 k. But the girls say it is EXTREEMLY boring at these establishments even if the bar fines are higher they choose to work in more lively bars with more interaction with guests.

  7. #30553

    A few bar fines.

    I will preface this with I was pressed for time this trip so all my encounters were ST and I paid around the same price at all the bars give or take a K around 5 k. I tip around 0-1 k depending on if they do what I ask and how pleased I am with their work.

    AC is still imo a great hunting ground with a lot of willing and attractive girls.

    Club asia smells horrible like several people died in that place and were left to rot. I don't know what's going on with this place but easy pass.

    Barfined a girl from vikings all most always do but this was one of the most disastrous barfines I have had in a while was a horrible time. This girl wanted covered BJ and no DATY or kissing of any kind. A big red flag is if they are in an "open relationship" with another monger I didn't know this until I had my dick in hand chatting with her about "life". They negotiate a sponsorship deal and continue to work at the bar. That's what you get with these hotter looking girls I usually don't partake in these "hot" looking girls and for good reason I wasn't happy she asked for a tip and I said "go play in traffic" which flew over this very "smart" girls head as she walked out of my life hopefully I never see this girl again would be a reminder of my failure to filter out these loonies. Felt more like a doctor exam like I was getting milked than sex.

    Barfined a girl from Skyfalls bar she was extremely sweet and easy going made for an amazing fuck. Had an amazing relaxed and passionate session just what I needed not a bad selection of girls at this bar I would go back the next trip. I don't know where these new crop of girls got their moves but they try to rip your dick out at the root. Its fun until fear takes over that I'm going to sprain my dick. How do I explain that one?

    Geckos no bar fine here but a honorable mention is sill a great bar has been the most fun place to hang out for a western foreigner for more than 20 years and still is. Was the first bar I ever barfiend from back in the day and is still going strong. I'm glad to see this. Any of you guys who keep the light on at this place hats off to you. It's a sanctuary in a sea of some dreary Korean owned bars.

    Barfiend a girl from the bar in between soya and ace can't remember the name but they have more than a few bar fineable girls at this bar. Had a good time she was very accommodating and over all solid bar fine can't complain about this one. She had a big smile on her face while she gave head all the way until I came in her can't beat that.

    Final bar fine was at club sky was a massive mistake they lied about how new she was and how she didn't have a baby. Club sky has fallen from grace and I most likely will take a pass on it the next time. Even though they have 1 or 2 other girls I would be interested in I wasn't happy with the misinformation. This girl just wanted to get my dick in her mouth and when we started fucking all she could say was faster at first I thought she was into it but I soon was deflated and she was telling me to hurry up and cum. She just kept saying my dick was too big? Here is a secret guys (it small) this is my selling point to girls who are scared of western guys I say I have a small dick and show it and they usually give me a pass. If this girl was fucking guys with a smaller dick than me they wouldn't be able to get a full stroke in. I don't have a micro penis but its not large by any means. Was a buzz kill because she kept trying to hurry shit up.

    On the topic of korean owned bars. The girls I've spoken to are starting to turn on the korean owners. This is NOT a racist jab its just what these girls are saying. They say they are mayabang. Which translates to "arrogant". Don't shoot the messenger I am just relaying what these girls are saying. A lot of these girls are transplants from the Korean KTVs from Korea town and in koreatown you pay about 5-6 k for the drinks and selection fees ect. And the bar fines for koreans only is about 10 k. But the girls say it is EXTREEMLY boring at these establishments even if the bar fines are higher they choose to work in more lively bars with more interaction with guests.

  8. #30552
    Let's talk about the perimeter.

    Yikes? The new margarita station is nice but kind of out of the way and Jo's Cafe has some of the best made to order food available in AC imo.

    I will preface this with I WOULD have sex with these girls over manila gogo bar girls for a few reasons, prices are right and its much more laid back.

    Mischef Bar.

    Had about 3 girls in it when I went there. I didn't ask the BF rate but I would assume its fairly low.

    The 2 bars next to Garfield's I call them Green and Red they much have a name but there is usually at least 2 girls I would barfine, they have a facility onsite which is "rickety" and look like a horror movie set. There are 4 bars here total and they are all interconnected if you didn't know that the red bar is being renovated and will move around the corner while renovations take place. I got quoted about 2500 to 3000st great prices if you can find something that is not too seasoned. These bars have an extremely large turnover rate so popping in every now and then offers a new selection. They call these bars resto bars but I don't think they have food in them not that I have seen. I didn't partake this trip I just went to check prices this was a different kind of trip for me.

    A little further down nearer to the new margarita station XXX and a few biker bars which is not my scene so I usually don't go in these is not too bad the quality of girls alone this strip suffers but makes up for it in lower bar fines around the 2500-3500 area.

    I think I missed a section of bars their is one korean owned bar here but its pretty much the same as the rest I dint ask the bar fine its the one with the ATM in front of it.

    Might be ok to walk during the day but there is an unlit section of this road that never sits well with me after sundown I would just take a jeep (cheap option) or trike (150-200) or grab (180-300) to the main bar area.

  9. #30551
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Jakarta is certainly not the nicest city in Asia but its no more of a shithole than AC.

    I do like Cebu and there was no shortage of cuties happy to come to my hotel for 1000-2000 P. Its an online game there though

    there is something about a line up of 50 cute girls that I can point to and fuck for 30 bucks. And Jakarta has that at many locations.

    Plus the Spas with Jacuzzi, food, massage and fuck all in the same building is an awesome way to spend an afternoon. Nothing like that in Philippines that I know of.

    I used to love AC and it was my go to for many many years. Maybe one day Ill go back but not anytime soon. Plus the flights from SIN-CRK now takes off at an god awful hour like 4 am so even less incentive.
    True.

    Very much so. I've always regarded Cebu as the online capital of the Philippines. Even more so than Manila.

    True. The 400 k /$30 girls are available if you know where to look. Even touristville Bali. Unfortunately, Jakarta does have a massive range in pricing that you don't see in Manila etc. It's not unusual to see a princess decide that she's worth 5 million /$300. Let's not even discuss the aspirations of a Bali IG babe. 🤑.

    Another big plus for MNL or AC is that it's easy to walk down one street and find what you want. There are concentrated redlight areas. Blok M is dead so you can't do that in Jakarta any more. Even in Kota you're going to be moving around, which can be a hassle in Jakarta traffic.

    Flights are returning to normal but I'd agree it's something that needs to be considered, where ever we go.

    Enjoy. G.

  10. #30550
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Jakarta certainly offers a great low cost alternative and indo girls can rival pinas for sweetness. However, those happy to tolerate the traffic, smog, general shitholeness that is Jakarta can take their $30 to Cebu or the provinces and have an equally good time.

    I'd agree that $30 doesn't go far on Burgos nor Fields but there are alternatives..
    Jakarta is certainly not the nicest city in Asia but its no more of a shithole than AC. I do like Cebu and there was no shortage of cuties happy to come to my hotel for 1000-2000 P. Its an online game there though and there is something about a line up of 50 cute girls that I can point to and fuck for 30 bucks. And Jakarta has that at many locations. Plus the Spas with Jacuzzi, food, massage and fuck all in the same building is an awesome way to spend an afternoon. Nothing like that in Philippines that I know of. I used to love AC and it was my go to for many many years. Maybe one day Ill go back but not anytime soon. Plus the flights from SIN-CRK now takes off at an god awful hour like 4 am so even less incentive.

  11. #30549
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Or Jakarta still has 19 yo cuties for 30 bucks or less for ST. But no English spoken.
    Jakarta certainly offers a great low cost alternative and indo girls can rival pinas for sweetness. However, those happy to tolerate the traffic, smog, general shitholeness that is Jakarta can take their $30 to Cebu or the provinces and have an equally good time.

    I'd agree that $30 doesn't go far on Burgos nor Fields but there are alternatives.

    Enjoy. G.

  12. #30548
    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees532  [View Original Post]
    Good points, but where would you go now instead?
    Bars aren't the only way to get laid in AC and AC definitely isn't the only place to get laid in PI. AC has a thriving online and privateer market and for those tired of AC, the provinces are more work but can deliver some great times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robotron  [View Original Post]
    Is it just me or are all of these women unattractive and what separates them from those other countries like Thailand is the effort in bed? I don't get it. I don't have access to fully view photos yet while looking at the photo galleries all I see is flat chested old women or young girls who look like they're straight from the 2000's.

    Help me understand the hype surrounding the Philippines or show some stunners who are stacked, whether escort examples or personal photos and where to find them if I ever visit.
    I think most would agree that the best days of AC are now long gone. However, that doesn't stop guys having a good time there. Most that do don't seem to be shy of spending a buck or two and / or actively go out to have a good time rather than have it handed to them in a plate. Of course there is also the nostalgia market where old guys have been going for years, also have friends there or stop off on the way to other places.

    I don't think the PI offers the best of anything: looks, hotels, clubs, food, non mongering activities. However, the whole package keeps guys coming back for attractive girls, in an English speaking environment, who generally are keen to please. Sure there are exceptions but I don't think it's the place / girls' fault if a punter can't have a good time there.

    I not sure how to show someone who can't view photos but here's an example of provincial tatas. It's an old photo as taking photos for other guys pleasure isn't a priority of my trips but you get the idea. She's not unusual from the area she comes from. Not a stunner but guys can easily seek out their own preferences.

    Enjoy. G.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I came across this flat chested lass in Davao.

    Swore that she was the smallest of her sisters.

  13. #30547
    Quote Originally Posted by Robotron  [View Original Post]
    Is it just me or are all of these women unattractive and what separates them from those other countries like Thailand is the effort in bed? I don't get it. I don't have access to fully view photos yet while looking at the photo galleries all I see is flat chested old women or young girls who look like they're straight from the 2000's.

    Help me understand the hype surrounding the Philippines or show some stunners who are stacked, whether escort examples or personal photos and where to find them if I ever visit.
    It really doesn't matter if it is just you or not. If they aren't attractive to you then no need to come.

    No one can really help you understand. You don't have any field reports with your likes or dislikes and photos to set a baseline.

    PH is not for you.

  14. #30546
    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees532  [View Original Post]
    Good points, but where would you go now instead? Prices were indeed high compared to before, but I was only there for 3 nights and was paying for prime 19/20 year olds so for me was worth the extra $ given my family situation back home haha.
    Good report. Ignore the negatives. Each of us pays what he pays. If you thought it was good value at the time, then it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Docwiltro  [View Original Post]
    Good find. Regardless, they will never be up to a certain Slapper's aristocratic standards. Unless, of course, he'd confess so here. But there are girls like these readily available in the bars, so he won't.

  15. #30545
    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees532  [View Original Post]
    Good points, but where would you go now instead? Prices were indeed high compared to before, but I was only there for 3 nights and was paying for prime 19/20 year olds so for me was worth the extra $ given my family situation back home haha.
    I can have my choice of not old Thai girls for 100 USD in Singapore where I live and don't have to fly anywhere. Or Jakarta still has 19 yo cuties for 30 bucks or less for ST. But no English spoken.

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