Angeles City

[Locamotive]

They can have liberty, but they are restricted from those places and activities. It is not the military of years gone by. It used to be the first place we would go was the place they told us not to go. These days they mean it.

My cousin's boat stopped in Rio and they could not even partake of the great delicacies the place has to offer. Comedian Eddie Griffin said the reason most people go into the military is to get exotic pussy. Unfortunately that option has been pretty much taken off the table.

A couple of years ago here in Thailand the US Military was in town. An incident happened and a buddy of mine was called on in the middle of the night to go translate. An 18 year old Marine had met a chick online. Him and his buddy hooked up with her and her friend. Just so happened the girl was the 16 year old daughter of a Thai Navy commander. The guy wanted $75,000 to make it go away. Of course the US government had to front the money and the young guy that probably only makes $2,000 per month will be on the hook to pay it back. They are trying to avoid situations like that and the ones in the pictures.

This is typical for newbies, military or not. These guys have been in pussy prison all their lives and when they come to S. E. A. It blows their minds. Its worse than a kid in a candy store. You mean for 100 bucks or less these girls will go home with me and give me GFE and treat me as I'm a long lost love. Some. Yes they will. Its a change of thought that some just cannot handle. When I first went to work in 2008 I knew nothing about this world. I sat in hotel first 2 months and just concentrated on my job. Work friends were like dude if you get out their they will be on you like white on rice. At 50 years old I'm like you fuckers are crazy. They finally drag me out to Greenbelt one night. I was a fish out of water. Table after table of girls grinning like a possum. At first I could not believe they were looking at me. Took one home later 23 I think and after the deed I think I just stared at her most of the night. Coming from US where I was always told you getting women like this has long past you by. Its a culture shock and it can freak you out. Maybe not like back then as so much more internet exposure, but being there vs online are two different things. Military guys are just naïve and some do get in trouble, but they will learn like we all did.

[Shining Wit]

My point remains valid. They won't improve the scene for the average Westerner. They either won't change anything or if they do they'll only introduce competition.

I am open to being shown how the increase in you S military personnel will make a blind bit of difference to Clark. Some time back I read an article about the increased levels, and there were 4 Philippine military bases that were mentioned. None were in Pampanga (or even Zambales) and I wasn't sure where 2 of the provinces were. Clark Air Force Base was returned to the Philippine government in 1992 when the lease was not renewed, and has since been developed, somewhat erratically, as an airport to relieve pressure on Ninoy Aquino airport in Manila and accept primarily foreign low cost sarriers. A new terminal has been built, together with something obstructing the flight path at one end of one of the two runways. This was not particularly inconvenient, as the two runways are too close together to permit parallel usage. Wiki says the Philippine Air Force maintains a unit there, but I think some of the hangars are used by Philippine Air Lines for maintenance.

All in all, I don't see the American military moving the dial at all.

[Dg8787]

Keep in mind that people have been predicting the demise of the bar scene in AC for over 30 years. At this rate it may still outlast most of us.

It certainly will outlast me. I will enjoy it until then.

[Betong]

Angeles is degrading very fast will soon be a spent force.

Keep in mind that people have been predicting the demise of the bar scene in AC for over 30 years. At this rate it may still outlast most of us.

[JordCo]

I seriously doubt any of the US Military will have shore leave let alone be allowed to go to girlie bars. US will not risk the embarrassment of drunken men and women on leave to torpedo the new agreements. There has not been any shore leave to bars since the navy man killing the trans about 7 years ago.

Last month on my flight from Guam to Manila there were quite a few navy personnel on the flight within 3 rows of me going to Subic. I offered to buy them a drink and all responded their orders clearly stated "No Alcohol " on the trip at all. Also when they landed in Manila they were to wait at the airport for the military transport directly to Subic.

My point remains valid. They won't improve the scene for the average Westerner. They either won't change anything or if they do they'll only introduce competition.

[LoveItHere]

Agree, but will they be able to go to massage parlors and hook up with indies?

I doubt even that. If he has to visit the military doctor with an STD and has not been to the states for over a month there will tons of questions how he got said disease.

[Mr Enternational]

I seriously doubt any of the US Military will have shore leave let alone be allowed to go to girlie bars.

They can have liberty, but they are restricted from those places and activities. It is not the military of years gone by. It used to be the first place we would go was the place they told us not to go. These days they mean it.

My cousin's boat stopped in Rio and they could not even partake of the great delicacies the place has to offer. Comedian Eddie Griffin said the reason most people go into the military is to get exotic pussy. Unfortunately that option has been pretty much taken off the table.

A couple of years ago here in Thailand the US Military was in town. An incident happened and a buddy of mine was called on in the middle of the night to go translate. An 18 year old Marine had met a chick online. Him and his buddy hooked up with her and her friend. Just so happened the girl was the 16 year old daughter of a Thai Navy commander. The guy wanted $75,000 to make it go away. Of course the US government had to front the money and the young guy that probably only makes $2,000 per month will be on the hook to pay it back. They are trying to avoid situations like that and the ones in the pictures.

[Dg8787]

Agree, but will they be able to go to massage parlors and hook up with indies?

I am sure those would be against orders. I doubt any military personnel would disobey the orders. I am aware some ships have docked at Subic and no personnel have ventured near a gray area.

Higher ups are scared of creating an international incident jeopardizing any agreements with the Philippines government and worse with the Filipinos.

[KumuMan]

I seriously doubt any of the US Military will have shore leave let alone be allowed to go to girlie bars. US will not risk the embarrassment of drunken men and women on leave to torpedo the new agreements. There has not been any shore leave to bars since the navy man killing the trans about 7 years ago.

Last month on my flight from Guam to Manila there were quite a few navy personnel on the flight within 3 rows of me going to Subic. I offered to buy them a drink and all responded their orders clearly stated "No Alcohol " on the trip at all. Also when they landed in Manila they were to wait at the airport for the military transport directly to Subic.

Agree, but will they be able to go to massage parlors and hook up with indies?

[Gorrion]

Korean bars are usually cleaner, more modern sofas etc, smoking allowed, peanuts / popcorn with drink, quicker to get served a drink and the CR has hand dryers not a towel that is older than the mamasan.

Negative points are most girls seem to favour Koreans, and they favour a male MC shouting over the music and the sound of a bull horn every 3 minutes.

I've always felt welcome but have seldom BF form one.

Thanks for your answer Sergio, I will check most of the bars but I guess I will finish the night in one no Korean oriented.

[Dg8787]

US military will only improve it for those who are already able to enjoy it as it is now. If one isn't even able to compete with beta East Asians then they're not going to be able to compete with young fit soldiers in their 20's.

I seriously doubt any of the US Military will have shore leave let alone be allowed to go to girlie bars. US will not risk the embarrassment of drunken men and women on leave to torpedo the new agreements. There has not been any shore leave to bars since the navy man killing the trans about 7 years ago.

Last month on my flight from Guam to Manila there were quite a few navy personnel on the flight within 3 rows of me going to Subic. I offered to buy them a drink and all responded their orders clearly stated "No Alcohol " on the trip at all. Also when they landed in Manila they were to wait at the airport for the military transport directly to Subic.

[SergioAgu93]

Thanks for the report, you shed some light against the nostalgia lovers.

I still have a month and a few days left before I go there, and it's nice to read occasionally that you can have a good time in those lands.

By the way, sorry if this is an obvious question, but how do I distinguish the "Korean" bars from the rest?

Korean bars are usually cleaner, more modern sofas etc, smoking allowed, peanuts / popcorn with drink, quicker to get served a drink and the CR has hand dryers not a towel that is older than the mamasan.

Negative points are most girls seem to favour Koreans, and they favour a male MC shouting over the music and the sound of a bull horn every 3 minutes.

I've always felt welcome but have seldom BF form one.

[JordCo]

I wouldn't give up on Angeles just yet. The US military is coming back in a big way and I'm sure this will help. Has Western traffic dropped off some especially from US, yes it it has. The ticket prices pushing $3000 roundtrip has put a damper on some visiting, myself included. This will in time calm down as most won't pay that just to get there. Even now if you look out August or September you can see prices half that. The real beauties may use the internet a bit more but face to face is always better, for them and you. Makati in Manila seems to be opening new bars, old Ringside as example this week. Someone sees business getting better at least by their investments. Give it time, Angeles will be fine too and return to normal eventually.

US military will only improve it for those who are already able to enjoy it as it is now. If one isn't even able to compete with beta East Asians then they're not going to be able to compete with young fit soldiers in their 20's.

[Locamotive]

From what I have seen myself and from impartial comments, Angeles is degrading very fast will soon be a spent force.

This should not be a surprise to anyone. Same story in places like Pattaya. The reasons are obvious:

1) As economies advance quickly, alternative more socially acceptable and safer employment becomes readily available.

2) COVID taught the more attractive professional ladies that they can earn big money online from their own homes.

3) Those who still bar work are attractive will gravitate to the big tourist trap bars where there is far bigger easy money all round. This leaves the smaller bars struggling to survive.

I wouldn't give up on Angeles just yet. The US military is coming back in a big way and I'm sure this will help. Has Western traffic dropped off some especially from US, yes it it has. The ticket prices pushing $3000 roundtrip has put a damper on some visiting, myself included. This will in time calm down as most won't pay that just to get there. Even now if you look out August or September you can see prices half that. The real beauties may use the internet a bit more but face to face is always better, for them and you. Makati in Manila seems to be opening new bars, old Ringside as example this week. Someone sees business getting better at least by their investments. Give it time, Angeles will be fine too and return to normal eventually.

[Dg8787]

Thanks for the encouragement. I was in kind of a bad mood when I wrote that due to lack of sleep. To clarify I think The Philippines is awesome and I've traveled all around the country and enjoyed myself. I just tend to get lazy and complain when I spend time in Angeles. But it's the easiest place to get girls in the Philippines, so I will be back, maybe for two months next year. A longer stay would be different because I can't sustain this level of spending.

Quick update on the Bunny girl that was stuck in my head. I figured she wouldn't go with me but I'm glad I tried. I used to be shy but I've learned you have to be decisive in bars like that and ask for what you want. Either she just doesn't go with foreigners, or she was creeped out by me ogling her when I was with my previous girl. Can't say I blame her. Other girls would have been willing to go with me but she's the only one I wanted.

I gave mama a small tip for helping me and for some reason she gave me her Facebook. Maybe if I wasn't flying out of the country today I could message her to try to work something out.

One of the reasons that a bg may not barfine with you that night is that she has a scheduled day off the next day with plans. Most bars have a rule if the bg does a barfine then she has to come to work the next day whether or not it is a scheduled day off. There is a heavy penalty if she doesn't come to work the next day. It might be lost of salary and or commissions. This rule with the penalties are to prevent the bg from doing "sneak outs" on her day off. Some bg may have a lackluster day at the bar because they were BF the night before and they just want to get through the mandatory work day.

I have had girls tell me that before and experienced it a few times when I wanted to BF a girl.