Angeles City

[Dg8787]

Deceiver! Cheater! By the way, does anybody have recommendations on how to hide from guests and preserve in good condition in a room a bunch of SM Supermarket grocery bags of chocolate?

Buy a 15" x 15" x 15" cardboard box and packing tape at National Book Store and tape her shut. The chocolates!

[Mr Enternational]

Manipulate any energy saving device so that you can run the AC unit while you are out. Put the goodies in your travel suitcase, lock it. It is imperative to hide from guests the true size of your goody stash, especially early in the trip.

Or you can be like me and not bring them shit. That way you do not have to worry about hiding anything.

[Pute Nut]

By the way, does anybody have recommendations on how to hide from guests and preserve in good condition in a room a bunch of SM Supermarket grocery bags of chocolate?

Manipulate any energy saving device so that you can run the AC unit while you are out. Put the goodies in your travel suitcase, lock it. It is imperative to hide from guests the true size of your goody stash, especially early in the trip.

[Jack4765]

Why even go that far? There are P300-500 street walkers near that closed up motel on the side street near where Johnny's market is located. I have nevered tried any but seen them as I went by on a trike and a few pinays have told me about them. Mostly local guys go there.

I got to tell you I've been checking that area out for the last few years. Never seen anything worth while. And if I'm right (maybe not anymore) you could still walk in or drive in that motel if we're talking about the same place. At least you could before.

The place I'm talking about is on the left going up the street from Johnnys on the Fields side of McArthur. If not sorry. It's a dump anyway.

I'd still like to know where area 51 is located!

[MrWoolyBooly]

You are so right! An $8 box of chocolate "brought for them from the US" pays huge dividends, even if it was really bought in the local store.

Deceiver! Cheater! By the way, does anybody have recommendations on how to hide from guests and preserve in good condition in a room a bunch of SM Supermarket grocery bags of chocolate?

[SaltyPete]

Well mine was just a comment to the sideline comment. But you make an important point. Many in the provinces still work for 50-100 a day (with perhaps a simple meal thrown in).

I have no problem with the "overtippers" (my view is that they serve to increase the supply by the allure of easy money) but I tend to stick to lowest attainable market rates myself, and tip OK when service is good. In my experience Filipinas often value "care" more than money. A small item brought especially for them, their favorit choco. Whatever.

You are so right! An $8 box of chocolate "brought for them from the US" pays huge dividends, even if it was really bought in the local store.

[Omega 3]

The activity of "Boombay 5-sixers" was merely a sideline comment Pute. It should not camouflage the main point I was making that for many filipinos 20 pesos is much more than the "Monopoly money" that many of us consider it to be.

Yes, RK's point is well-taken. Many Filipinos somehow survive at a borderline subsistence level, and yet manage to be appreciably happier than the comparatively wealthier foreigners. A truly admirable quality.

Perhaps material wealth alone is not the key to happiness?

By the way, if 20 pesos is a not insubstantial sum, then just imagine the relatively grand magnitude of 1,000 or 2,000 pesos or more. However, some working girls in Angeles and elsewhere rapidly become inured to such larger sums of money to be received or expected or sometimes even demanded from foreigners. Maybe not such an admirable quality?

Just one man's musings.

OM.

[Pute Nut]

The activity of "Boombay 5-sixers" was merely a sideline comment Pute. It should not camouflage the main point I was making that for many filipinos 20 pesos is much more than the "Monopoly money" that many of us consider it to be.

Well mine was just a comment to the sideline comment. But you make an important point. Many in the provinces still work for 50-100 a day (with perhaps a simple meal thrown in).

I have no problem with the "overtippers" (my view is that they serve to increase the supply by the allure of easy money) but I tend to stick to lowest attainable market rates myself, and tip OK when service is good. In my experience Filipinas often value "care" more than money. A small item brought especially for them, their favorit choco. Whatever.

[Red Kilt]

The Indians doing this are often referred to as "Bombay five-six" or, simply, "Bombay" to differentiate them from their Filipino counterparts in the trade, which is one not held in very high regard. But "needed", as you point out.

The activity of "Boombay 5-sixers" was merely a sideline comment Pute. It should not camouflage the main point I was making that for many filipinos 20 pesos is much more than the "Monopoly money" that many of us consider it to be.

[Pute Nut]

Indian money-lender (colloguially known as a "five-six")

The Indians doing this are often referred to as "Bombay five-six" or, simply, "Bombay" to differentiate them from their Filipino counterparts in the trade, which is one not held in very high regard. But "needed", as you point out.

[Mr Enternational]

As I turned out I was on Walking street about 11 pm and ventured into HiSo.

I wandered around a few other bars and then returned about 3 am.

Seems some of the girls are definitely working with a pimp. If I am talking to a potential girl and she is approached by a grumpy older woman then I just move on.

That is not the case. It is that when some bars close sometimes several of the girls go to HS and the mamasan tags along too for fun. I have never noticed them act grumpy though.

[BrainDrain]

As I turned out I was on Walking street about 11 pm and ventured into HiSo. It was Ok and some potential girls but slim pickings.

I wandered around a few other bars and then returned about 3 am. The cut little numbers were streaming in after their workshift. Plenty of choice and very friendly. Had way too many options on the go. Seems some of the girls are definitely working with a pimp. If I am talking to a potential girl and she is approached by a grumpy older woman then I just move on.

Ended up with a shapely little mother of four kids. Agreed on P1,500 to go home with me. Evening sex, evening BBBJ with CIM, then sleep, then repeat in the wake up. Will definitely see her again.

Happy days in AC.

BD.

[Red Kilt]

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The point is that just because it seems like nothing to you, it could mean a whole lot to someone else. So they got 40 pesos in all of 10 seconds, when the average daily pay for Filipino workers is what?

You make a good point Mr E that might be incomprehensible to most of us on here.

Apropos of this, I was recently visiting a Nthn Luzon province and I noticed the arrival of an affable Indian money-lender (colloguially known as a "five-six") on his motorbike at the house next door to my abode. The woman resident came out and gave him 20 pesos. Away he rode.

I subsequently discovered that the woman next door had borrowed 500 pesos from him for an "urgent' purchase and 3 times each week he returned to collect 20 pesos until such time as the borrower had repaid 600 pesos.

Point of story. There are pockets of filipino life where 20 pesos represents a substantial proportion of the weekly budget. Hard to believe I know but this story is absolutely true. ISG members here who have ventured into these places and stayed there for any time know that 20 pesos is important to them, so girls scrabbling for such largesse in AC is simply the hard-wired manifestation of their experience with money matters in their home provinces.

Subscript: The next-door neighbor is a lovely person and soon after this event when we needed to borrow some onions from her I compensated her with a 500 php bill and an instruction to pay off the 5-sixer next visit, because his presence in the street troubled me.

Why did I do it when no sexual favors were involved? Because I can, and because I wanted to. My act is unlikely to upset the balance of expectations in our small community even if it unwittingly reinforces the belief that the foreigner who visits now and again is rich.

[Dg8787]

Chocha,

Are foreigners still not allowed or wanted in Area 51? And if you don't mind could you be more specific in the location?

Right or left on McArthur from Fields etc.

Why even go that far? There are P300-500 street walkers near that closed up motel on the side street near where Johnny's market is located. I have nevered tried any but seen them as I went by on a trike and a few pinays have told me about them. Mostly local guys go there.

[Dg8787]

Making it rain isn't such a big thing to the girls. Most of the guys who do this use 20 php notes and don't throw enough for any one girl to make a substantial amount of money. Most of the girls get one or two 20 php notes.

Some girls have more cents than to step over $$'s to pick up pesos. They know the money is in the ld and bf.

Reminds me of one child beggar around 6/7 years old in front of 7-11. I gave him 2 pesos change and he hands it back and says 5 pesos please! Got to think a little bigger. Lol