Angeles City

[Mastov]

Hit the nail on the head with this one, great post.

So true to say that many of the better looking slimmer angeles bargirls are drinks only girls and will not leave with anyone, even the very high spending koreans who are far preffered customers by many bargirls have problems getting their 1st,2nd,3rd etc choice girls to leave the bar.

Yes its true if one lives in a loveless country where a jump with a whale is impossible or has been locked up in solitary for the last 10 years and is so desperate for some pussy then an angeles visit might be heaven, not so desperate and not willing to greatly lower ones standards to almost nil then one will be greatly dissapointed in angeles, sorry to be truthful but it needs saying.

I'm a newb who's never been to AC. You can see my previous post in this thread. Are there any places you suggest as alternatives to AC for easy / young / hot BBFSCIP? I don't mind paying a premium for quality and convenience. There does not seem to be an "AC" in latin america or europe or really anywhere else in asia? You come across as the most critical poster here and seem to have high standards, so what's your strategy? I'm debating whether a place like AC is even worth it because I can already get BBFSCIP locally from Koreans in the USA whom on average look better than filipinas.

[A Traveler]

Is there a place to buy doxycycline here? I used to get it from the Pharmacy right on Walking Street, but it is closed now. I went to the Filipino chain place down Fields but they wanted a prescription. I will try the Mercury Drug by the McDonald's later.

[A Traveler]

I arrived in Angels City yesterday, and I'm collecting data to help all the randy guys like me trapped in the West. I created a new username since my last one was not sufficiently anonymous. Here are my notes so far.

E-health.

This turned out to be nothing to worry about. The website asks you if you are vaccinated, but no evidence is required. It also asks if you had Covid in the last 30 days, which I did but have been testing negative. I didn't admit that and I got a green pass.

United makes you upload a picture of you vaccination record, but they are not able to validate the e-health pass so I had to check in at the airport. I had to call a gate agent over. The only instructions she had were to check my travel documents. She had no idea what the e-health pass was. I showed her my green pass and she checked me in.

In Manila there was a line for green passes and a line for red. Nobody was manning the green line and nobody checked my pass.

Transport.

Margarita Station car was shockingly expensive at 4,000 PHP, but it was nice to be transported directly to my accommodations.

Accommodations.

I always think I'm going to splurge on ABC, but then I look at the pictures and can't bring myself to book it. The rooms look tacky, and the bathrooms look old and tired. I booked an Airbnb in the new One Euphoria condo tower. It's a nice little modern room with a kitchenette and a bathroom that doesn't look like it's from 1980.

Angeles City.

Say what you will about Pattaya, but at least it's not a third-world dump. It's always shocking to see the shacks, homeless sleeping on the sidewalks, crippled and deformed beggars and urchins repeatedly asking for money at ATMs.

First Night Out.

I spent a few months here back in 2014 and 2017. At those times people complained about how the good old days were gone. Now those are the good old days. I accept the fact that I can't go back and things are different.

There's been a lot of complaining about girls not bar fining. I dismissed those reports as being from jaded guys that weren't making an effort. My data is limited and anecdotal, but maybe they have a point. But I can confirm the classic GFE can still be experienced.

My first stop was Lollipop, which I have fond memories of and there have been good reports. On my first night I tend to be a little more liberal buying drinks, so I bought one for the ugly annoying waitress that sat next to me and kept talking to me. Most of the lineup was fugly, but I spotted a perfect ten, a jewel in the rough. Tall, slim, big boobs. No tattoos, wearing neon tape instead of a top. I asked the waitress to call her down. She had a sparkling personality, was 20, and baby-free.

I asked about taking her out and she said since she had to stay until 9 since she had to do shows. Alarm bells rang but this girl was amazing. In the past showgirls and cherry girls would straight up tell you they wouldn't go out and she wasn't saying that. I had to make a quick call and I decided to keep buying drinks for annoying waitress and beautiful showgirl until 9. Of course at nine she said she was on mens. I didn't burn any bridges and finished the last drink with her and said I'd come back in a couple days. It would probably be a waste of time.

I cut my losses and went to La Bamba, another bar with fond memories. All the girls were short and average but young and cute. These girls weren't 10's, but I like short cute girls. They were all very friendly so I had to pick one quickly to call down. She was going on 19, bubbly and very hands on. In the past it was fun to spend time building rapport in the bar so I bought a few rounds of drinks. When I inquired about going she dropped a bombshell. According to her the is no barfine and La Bamba! Can that be true? I asked how we could meet up and she said to give her my Facebook. Then she said she was on mens and couldn't meet for a few days. Of course she didn't friend me on Facebook. Another waste of time and money.

At this point I was feeling the jetlag and had used up most of my limited introvert energy. I went in Q-Bar and looked at the fuggly lineup and left.

Next up was Monsoon. This time I didn't buy the waitress a drink. I spotted a pretty dancer in a sparkly dress and ask to buy a drink for her. The waitress said she didn't work here. Weird. I paid up and headed out, but at this time she was sitting with the other dancers. I went up to her and asked if she's working and she said yes so I told her I want to buy a drink.

I was tired and low energy but chatted with her. She's 25 from Samar. The previous two were from here. She was pretty and charming. I didn't wait too long about asking her to go out and she said yeah. So I paid the shockingly hight 4,000 PHP and took her home.

It was a classic experience as good as any from the past. She was passionate, gave BBFSCIP, spent the night, and did another session in the morning. I have the old dilemma of deciding if I want to see her again and risk having her get attached to me, or if I should roll the dice and keep hunting.

I'm still tired from jet lag, so on night two I will call for one of the massage girls that looked sort of cute handing out cards to come to my room.

[NapaSlapper]

Hello Pickley,

IMO Angeles City has been ruined. Since about 2011. I see no reason to return as the pictures and stories from another board with Philippines in their name have more activity on "other places" like Thailand or Indonesia. Now I am happy you still dig the place! Really I am! I would guess there is still some magic out there but. I'll answer specifically Why I as an example feel the place Sucks now.

1) The hotels are obnoxiously expensive compared to Pattaya.

2) The ladies have gained weight and are older and more used up than say in 2004. (See pictures of AC Bargirls pre 2009).

3) Raids and other legal gray area matters have plagued Angeles City for about 15 years or so.

4) Being a 2 week millionaire from USA means nothing to the ladies now. They are not as excited to see American $ versus other nationalities money.
(5) The ladies have many more work options like Call Centers or other Business outsourcing they can do and hey - good for them, I am not hating.

Overall around 2002-2005 it was BBFS CIP heaven over there. And a lot of this creampieing was with BEAUTIFUL ladies who were slim and sexy.

Today. With the magic of Google Translate. I can simply head to Thailand and ask the ladies if they want my load. Philippines ladies speak English is no longer very important.

There is HUGE variety in Thailand. There are SO MANY bars in Thailand.

In Angeles City I still hear people posting about the same 3 or 4 bars over and over again. Sorry. Call me old. But I won't be back anytime soon since the Heyday is over. Again, just my opinion and I am not trying to say I am right. It's just that it's easier and cheaper to find what I want elsewhere.

Excellent post, Thanks for telling some home truths, egree with most all of what you say.

[NapaSlapper]

10 years ago.

Armed guards with sawed off shotguns in most businesses.

4-5 15 yo glue sniffing boys trying rob your pockets.

3 or more ladyboys trying to steal your wallet on the street.

Pickpockets galore walking around.

Cell phone snatch and runners.

Most bars girls were inexperienced country bumpkins from Samar.

High percentage were runners.

I like today better.

Angeles better than 10 years ago?

I think you will find that the angeles of today has even more armed guards with automatic weapons at establishments.

Multiple more glue sniffing street kids on every st corner leading up to walking st.

Multiple more ladyboys on every st corner than before.

Pickpockets, cell phone snatchers, muggers etc all alive and well in angeles.

Girls promising long time and charging for long time only to run after the 1st pop are at very high levels, of course if one barfines the older fatter more desperate girls then number of runners decreases dramatically.

As stated, not sure what there is to like more than 10 years ago IMHO.

[NapaSlapper]

Your friend is correct. Do the math:

1/. There are many, many more foreigner friendly girls in Cebu than Walking Street. Cebu simply has a larger population. A LOT larger.

2/. Some / many hot girls in AC are Korean or drinks only and will not be going home with a white guy under any circumstance. I haven't found this in Cebu. My experience has been that any Cebu girl happy to date a foreign guy doesn't care if that foreigner is white, yellow, brown or green.

2/. The typical source of AC working girls is poor, destitute, single moms not the thousands of regular girls who flood into Cebu looking for quality schools or jobs.

3/. AC feed stock generally comes from Lyete or Samar (think Isaan and Pattaya). Great if you prefer spinner body types but no so good if you are looking for tall and slim or buxom girls. Poverty and poor nutrition exaggerates this. True cebuana I find to be the whole range from 5'0" and homely to tall and slim. However, to these you add all the other imported ethnicities. The Philippines is an archipelago where different areas produce girls with strikingly different features. Porcelain white skinned girls, tall and stacked, honey brown skinned, huge jugs on a tiny frame: whatever you prefer, seek and ye shall find!

Here is the rebuttal and it's a big one: walk into AC and, if you aren't too fussy, you can be getting laid within minutes of arrival; Cebu is a huge city but it's not point and shoot. It does have a settling in period for newbies to find their feet and make things happen. I've had several guys complain that this period is too long and took up most of their stay. For those prepared to wait, there are rewards. However, it does take time.

In summary (sorry about the long post): in town for a few days, not super fussy and want point and shoot, then go to AC and have a blast; have some extra time, looking for better quality and looking girls and prepared to put in some ground work, then bypass AC and go to Cebu.

I should also add that if your also looking for other things to do beyond getting laid 24/7, then Cebu wins hands down.

Enjoy. G.

Hit the nail on the head with this one, great post.

So true to say that many of the better looking slimmer angeles bargirls are drinks only girls and will not leave with anyone, even the very high spending koreans who are far preffered customers by many bargirls have problems getting their 1st,2nd,3rd etc choice girls to leave the bar.

Yes its true if one lives in a loveless country where a jump with a whale is impossible or has been locked up in solitary for the last 10 years and is so desperate for some pussy then an angeles visit might be heaven, not so desperate and not willing to greatly lower ones standards to almost nil then one will be greatly dissapointed in angeles, sorry to be truthful but it needs saying.

[Dg8787]

My 2 week tour is finished. 7:30 an I checked in for my flight and my AC girl went home on the Genesis 8 am bus.

Friends and Family plan worked out great along with a few new barfines. Nothing to complain about here.

[DzikaBomba]

If you are in AC then you will know it is difficult to get small change back from stores and restaurants.

I have solved the problems. ABC front desk stocks quite a bit of P20, P50, P100, P500 and P1000 notes. I get a stack of p50's and P100's at a time. Like P3000 at a time. Saves on a lot of frustration.

My solution to that is when I'm changing money at the money changer I ask them to give me small bills and I tell them exactly which and they will give.

No Problem.

And front desk from ABC will see my middle finger from outside at max.

[Expat American]

Currently in Angeles and wanted a massage so I went into a parlor right on walking street (across from genesis), where the girls are on the street yelling "massage" at everyone who walks by. The girl brought me to the back and I was the only customer there. I get naked and she starts massaging and then another girl walks in and asks if I want two girls. Whatever, it's 400 pesos each, so I agree. After a couple of minutes I feel two more sets of hands on me and I look back to see two ladyboys grabbing at my ass and junk and giggling. I was furious! I didn't come here to get my junk grabbed by ladyboys after I am face down getting a massage. I immediately cursed everyone out and left. I still wanted a massage so I asked my hotel to call one for me to my room. They did, and the lady shows up who is about 55 years old it seems. Ok, I get it, it was a decent massage and I'm sure better than one of the young pretty girls but who doesn't like to have a set of 22 year old hands all over them?

My question is, does anyone know of a good massage location on walking street or near that has cute girls (but without disgusting ladyboys trying to grab at you)?

AC is not Pattaya. Generally there is no combo of massage and sex where both are good. There are good places for massage (my favorite is Reign Spa) where 400 peso gets you pretty good hour rub. For sex you should already know where to find that. LOL.

[WalkAboutBoyz]

Currently in Angeles and wanted a massage so I went into a parlor right on walking street (across from genesis), where the girls are on the street yelling "massage" at everyone who walks by. The girl brought me to the back and I was the only customer there. I get naked and she starts massaging and then another girl walks in and asks if I want two girls. Whatever, it's 400 pesos each, so I agree. After a couple of minutes I feel two more sets of hands on me and I look back to see two ladyboys grabbing at my ass and junk and giggling. I was furious! I didn't come here to get my junk grabbed by ladyboys after I am face down getting a massage. I immediately cursed everyone out and left. I still wanted a massage so I asked my hotel to call one for me to my room. They did, and the lady shows up who is about 55 years old it seems. Ok, I get it, it was a decent massage and I'm sure better than one of the young pretty girls but who doesn't like to have a set of 22 year old hands all over them?

My question is, does anyone know of a good massage location on walking street or near that has cute girls (but without disgusting ladyboys trying to grab at you)?

[Dg8787]

Yes, that's true. There is a tax for Filipino citizens travelling outside the country. I guess they think that if you're rich enough to travel, you're rich enough to pay more taxes. Foreigners do not pay the tax. My last experience with this was maybe 6 years ago, and we had to wait in line to to pay and get a special receipt attached to my girlfriends boarding pass. These days, it may have been integrated into more ticket prices. Not sure.

Foreigners do pay a departure tax known to some as a travel tax. Filipino citizens pay it too. The tax is 1620 pesos. Years ago the tax was much lower for foreigners and Filipinos paid 1620. After an uproar over the inequity of the price difference, the government raise the foreigner tax to 1620! Filipinos had thought theirs would be lowered! LOL.

Most all tourist have the tax included in their tickets. Some airlines have the option for the Filipinos to pay the tax in the ticket. If not paid in the ticket then it is paid at the airport.

OFW used to pay it and then inside the boarding area they would claim a refund. OFW are exempt from the tax. Today I believe they do not collect it in the OFW ticket.

[Kazeu]

It is my understanding that visiting tourists who stay in Philippines for less than a year do not have to pay. In the past I had bought tickets for myself and my then Filipina GF out of Manila; had to pay the extra travel tax only for her.

Yes, that's true. There is a tax for Filipino citizens travelling outside the country. I guess they think that if you're rich enough to travel, you're rich enough to pay more taxes. Foreigners do not pay the tax. My last experience with this was maybe 6 years ago, and we had to wait in line to to pay and get a special receipt attached to my girlfriends boarding pass. These days, it may have been integrated into more ticket prices. Not sure.

[GoodEnough]

It is my understanding that visiting tourists who stay in Philippines for less than a year do not have to pay. In the past I had bought tickets for myself and my then Filipina GF out of Manila; had to pay the extra travel tax only for her.

I think it's a stay of 6 months or more. I have to pay it every time I leave the country, but then so do Filipinos.

GE.

[WildInstincts]

There are no arrival tax. Period. If there is a tax it is built into your ticket price.

99% of departure tax is built in to the ticket price.

It is my understanding that visiting tourists who stay in Philippines for less than a year do not have to pay. In the past I had bought tickets for myself and my then Filipina GF out of Manila; had to pay the extra travel tax only for her.

[Dg8787]

If you are in AC then you will know it is difficult to get small change back from stores and restaurants.

I have solved the problems. ABC front desk stocks quite a bit of P20, P50, P100, P500 and P1000 notes. I get a stack of p50's and P100's at a time. Like P3000 at a time. Saves on a lot of frustration.