Angeles City

[Engine Driver]

Correct but only the mentally challenged would be paying these girls and rates for travel companions. Pros vs civilians has been discussed at length on the Indo Board. General consensus is that it's far better value and service to import a civilian into say Bali.

Anyone interested should read the Bali / Jakarta / Indo forums. It's all there. We are getting waay off topic.

A monger who lives in Bali will be able to find cheaper pussy as he has more time and the chick will know there is repeat business. If he knows a bit of Bahasa Indonesia, he may even be treated as a pseudo local. Mongers who are there on a 1-week vacation need to take those prices as they don't have time to search wide. I've just come back from that region and the prices mentioned are correct. Nothing to do with being mentally deranged. I think the information you're providing is all from pre-Covid and the whole scene has changed.

[NapaSlapper]

I am not paying any chubbies 5 k.

I am getting the same apple quality as I was 10 years ago. Some cases even better performers.

Let's be honest I have different values than your that I am happy with. To be honest I have to divide your input by 3 and subtract by 5 to get to my reality.

As many have said girls quality is in the eye of the beholder, what one might think is good quality and slim might be someone elses would not fuck for free.

I'm glad that you are happy with the 300% increase in girl costs and the now standard of short time as apposed to standard long time of 10 years ago but by the tiny numbers of western punters in angeles city since its opening after covid proves that the majority are not happy at all with the quality of girls the astronomical rise in prices and have voted with their feet to not visit angeles.

A recent short trip to Bangkok and pattaya showed me that the bars were heaving with both punters and girls, maybe taking a short trip yourself will have you also changing your mind about the prices and quality of angeles girls.

[Dg8787]

Lets call apples apples.

Yes 10 years ago it was possible to get a slim young good looking girl long time for 1200 p (28.50 usd).

Today, mostly chubby older plain girls are demanding 5,000 p (90 usd) short time.

Lets also be honest and say that there is not an angeles girl of today that would have been employed by any bar 10 years ago due to size, age, looks.

So as I said apples to apples not just throwing numbers out to suit ones agenda.

I am not paying any chubbies 5 k.

I am getting the same apple quality as I was 10 years ago. Some cases even better performers.

Let's be honest I have different values than your that I am happy with. To be honest I have to divide your input by 3 and subtract by 5 to get to my reality.

[NapaSlapper]

Simply put AC barfines 10 years ago were $28.50.

2022 barfines are app $62.50.

A little over doubled.

Affordable to some still.

Fodder for cost accountants to search else where.

For me it is about personal value. Is it worth it to me or not? Given my present day circumstances it is.

Lets call apples apples.

Yes 10 years ago it was possible to get a slim young good looking girl long time for 1200 p (28.50 usd).

Today, mostly chubby older plain girls are demanding 5,000 p (90 usd) short time.

Lets also be honest and say that there is not an angeles girl of today that would have been employed by any bar 10 years ago due to size, age, looks.

So as I said apples to apples not just throwing numbers out to suit ones agenda.

[Dg8787]

In other words, USD exchange rate has benefitted us by 25%, while costs in AC have gone up by 300%. Add to that other issues such as lower quality and devaluation from LT to ST. I have traveled Asiawide for years and saw the same evolution in Thailand about 15 - 20 years ago. One needs to be flexible and seek out new locations. I have found many, but will not discuss these places as the last thing t want is for others playing Mr. Big and going there throwing money in all directions and ruining the market.

Simply put AC barfines 10 years ago were $28.50.

2022 barfines are app $62.50.

A little over doubled.

Affordable to some still.

Fodder for cost accountants to search else where.

For me it is about personal value. Is it worth it to me or not? Given my present day circumstances it is.

[Dg8787]

Was just there in March and now going back again mid January.

I'm not sure why people are complaining about the prices there, it's still dirt cheap and I think I tucked every night I was there a few times even some and only spent about 2 k including my airbnb.

Don't go and stay at crazy priced joints like ABC and save the money for the working girls and you'll be fine.

Excellent first report. Contains more info than most posts.

[Goferring]

Dating app girl is about 2 million for overnight stay. Super hot girls will be 4-5 million per night. Plenty of these girls will also be a travel companion for the same daily fee plus expenses.

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Correct but only the mentally challenged would be paying these girls and rates for travel companions. Pros vs civilians has been discussed at length on the Indo Board. General consensus is that it's far better value and service to import a civilian into say Bali.

Anyone interested should read the Bali / Jakarta / Indo forums. It's all there. We are getting waay off topic.

[Goferring]

Was just there in March and now going back again mid January.

I'm not sure why people are complaining about the prices there, it's still dirt cheap and I think I tucked every night I was there a few times even some and only spent about 2 k including my airbnb.

Don't go and stay at crazy priced joints like ABC and save the money for the working girls and you'll be fine.

It would be great to read a report of your trip to balance the discussion.

[Goferring]

I want to spend time in the provinces for several months. I have never done any online hunting. You have a decreasing order of high number of province girls to few?

Purely in terms of numbers in the provinces it's FB, Cupid, PinaLove, DIA, Tinder, maybe some IG and Seeking too but they will be a lot of work to find appropriate girls.

[LoveItHere69]

1. In decreasing order of girl quality it's Instagram, Tinder, Filipino Cupid, DIA, PinaLove.

I want to spend time in the provinces for several months. I have never done any online hunting. You have a decreasing order of high number of province girls to few?

[Asmoth]

Was just there in March and now going back again mid January.

I'm not sure why people are complaining about the prices there, it's still dirt cheap and I think I tucked every night I was there a few times even some and only spent about 2 k including my airbnb.

Don't go and stay at crazy priced joints like ABC and save the money for the working girls and you'll be fine.

[Engine Driver]

Ah, any gents who've visited Indo this year, please tell of your experiences regarding prices. NE says $30 USD, but a stroll thru the last 2 weeks in the Jakarta thread shows higher, typically $50-$125 USD (not that far from AC prices). Also the gents on the Jakarta thread talk about going to Classic / Orchardz (or similar) fishbowls, as opposed to AC's fleshpot system of surrounding you with PYT's. The Jakarta fishbowls are described as not being able to see the girls first (you can see tiktok videos). Me-thinks the comparison is not fair. I miss Top Gun.

However I feel for NE's pain. The post-covid AC system is much as NE describes it. Having visited AC a few months ago, I see little reason to go back. I am surrounded by flesh in Phils wherever I go.

Attached pic: Some Indo-honey for ya's.

Westie,

Sanur X house brothels are 400 k for ST with a pretty girl. Room is shit.

Dating app girl is about 2 million for overnight stay. Super hot girls will be 4-5 million per night. Plenty of these girls will also be a travel companion for the same daily fee plus expenses.

High class massage parlours with all in service are 1. 2 - 1. 5 million with a pretty girl.

Standard massage with no extras is 100 k at a legit place.

[Slowalk]

One needs to be flexible and seek out new locations. I have found many, but will not discuss these places as the last thing t want is for others playing Mr. Big and going there throwing money in all directions and ruining …. The experience..

Thailand especially was changed by Disneyland tourists.

[Goferring]

Good luck finding an 8 or 9 in Jakarta for $30 USD...

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

Ah, any gents who've visited Indo this year, please tell of your experiences regarding prices. NE says $30 USD, but a stroll thru the last 2 weeks in the Jakarta thread shows higher, typically $50-$125 USD (not that far from AC prices)..

450 kRps sessions are available all over Kota Jakarta. It's even the standard price at the X houses in tourist-ville Bali. I'd agree calling the girls a 9 is stretching it but it's not difficult to find a petite spinner vs the AC Jollie bellies. The downsides are zero English and pretty seedy facilities. To get the foreigner friendly choices you are heading towards 1 M /$65. A 5 star hotel girl or Seeking will be multiples of this. Blok M was dead years ago.

Enjoy. G.

[Fastpiston]

10 years ago bar fines were around 1200 and US $1 = 42 pesos. $28.50. Most bar fines were for LT with occasional runners.

At the end of 2019 and early 2020 I paid bar fines of 2000 to 2500 and half stayed LT. Exchange rate was 48.

My last visit a few months ago bar fines were 3000-4500 depending on the bars. Most were 3500. Exchange rate was 56.

In other words, USD exchange rate has benefitted us by 25%, while costs in AC have gone up by 300%. Add to that other issues such as lower quality and devaluation from LT to ST. I have traveled Asiawide for years and saw the same evolution in Thailand about 15 - 20 years ago. One needs to be flexible and seek out new locations. I have found many, but will not discuss these places as the last thing t want is for others playing Mr. Big and going there throwing money in all directions and ruining the market.