Angeles City

[Blanquiceleste]

I hate Filipino food and everyone complains about the choices here. A couple of places I went to this time with decent food: tacos at Tequila Reef, burgers at Bunny Burger, pizza and BBQ at Juanita's Guesthouse. I'm not big on Korean food, but if I had to pick one restaurant on / near Fields I'd pick Yi San. I've had good and bad orders from Kokomo's. Envy's nice and fancy but their portions are small. I ordered Mongolian beef there, and it was cooked way too sweet.

If you like Thai food (who doesn't?) give Patchawaran a spin. Great food, decent prices.

Also, Edelweiss is a solid 8/10 for German food. They used to stock Oettinger, but not any more (I was there 8 months back, if they have it back then great).

Kokomos is shit. Yu Fu In is good for Japanese food, but a bit pricey.

[Mogwai]

Flying to Manila and taking the Genesis bus to AC can save a lot of money than either flying to Clark directly or taking a taxi to AC.

I guess that depends on where you're coming from. Coming from Europe (Amsterdam) there's no price difference between Manila or Clark so I always try to find a flight to Clark, usually via Hong Kong. However for the way back I often have to fly from Manila since the schedule from Clark is not good on most of the days.

Although I've made 3 previous trips to AC, I never really understood how the prepaid plans work. I simply had someone at the airport do everything for me and I remembered paying something like 350 p for about a month worth of service. However it was always more than I needed so I decided to buy the SIM and load independently this trip.

Unlike what we're used to in the US, load, aka prepaid credit, is used to buy "promo codes" that apply on your account. If you use load without promo codes applied, you'll get killed on usage charges as I found out the hard way. I bought a 50 p Globe SIM this time. The most popular codes are "Gosakto", which costs 100 p and gives you 7 days of unlimited text and up to 2 GB of data, and "Gosurf50", for 1 GB and 3 days. There's also a one month 300 p code from Globe. You dial #143* on your phone to apply those codes. You can also text those codes to 8080 but that didn't work for me. If you only care about convenience, just get everything done at the airport. But if you're a penny pincher, I'd suggest checking what they're selling at the airport and comparing it against the costs I mentioned. Sometimes you'll save money, sometimes not.

These promo codes and conditions often change and you can save a few bucks by comparing them. Just go to the web sites of Globe and Smart to figure it out.

[Tasss]

Like your no nonsense writing style and observations.

Again many thanks.

NI.

Yw, just giving back to the board what it's given me over the years.

If anyone cares, my next trip is probably a return trip to Bogota. I posted a very detailed newbie report for that city about August of last year. It's about as cheap as AC in certain areas, more variety, sexier girls (better bodies and more skill in bed), only 8 HR flight, and no need to deal with drama from girls who fall in love on the first sex LOL. The only reason I came to AC this time was because of a heavily discounted plane ticket to MNL and the "discovery" of the Genesis bus. Without either of those, I wouldn't have come.

[NewImage]

I've just finished my 4th AC trip. No play-by-play in this report but you can see my previous AC reports more details. I'm mostly reporting on anything different I've done this trip vs previous trips.
But if you want to fall in love and deal with the issues that result from actual relationships, then the Philippines is still one of the best places for that.

Like your no nonsense writing style and observations.

Again many thanks.

NI.

[Dg8787]

Tasss has posted the most informative info in this thread in many weeks, minus the elevated cynicism from those who hawk the Phils threads, ad nauseam. His post is a breath of fresh air.

Tasss got the info regarding SIM cards and Genesis bus from me. My point was you could have read it a few weeks ago if you rtff.

But you were too lazy or too busy being a troll. Your post #13042 in the Shanghai forum speaks loudly about you.

Yes I had my reservations about you a few weeks ago and now upon reading your disgusting post #13042 has verified that for me.

[Niteluvr]

You are welcome. If you had read the reports earlier you would have seen the info on SIM card and load, getting to Genesis Bus at Terminal 3. Getting a trike at SM City Clark.

Tasss is an honorable member. He posted reports as promised so all can learn.

Looking forward to your reports.

BTW, the stop is in Ortigas, part of Manila. The stop doesn't last more than 30 seconds for passengers to offload and onload.

Tasss has posted the most informative info in this thread in many weeks, minus the elevated cynicism from those who hawk the Phils threads, ad nauseam. His post is a breath of fresh air.

[Mr Enternational]

I have read lists of bars / clubs on various websites and one I read I didn't save the link and forgot where I read this, maybe why'all could clue me? Said it's a club not a bar and the girls there are other bar's working girls clocked out for the night on their personal time, and you can strike up a deal with no bar fines no middle man and essentially negotiate a better rate directly with girls for what bars would normally charge.

I would suspect that it is High Society Disco. See the report below posted by Tasss.

[CenTexCrash]

Hello,

Resident US / Texas citizen / village idiot here will have a 48 hour monger opp in April. Will arrive Saturday night from Seoul into Clark ICN-CRK and will indulge until it's time to sail onward late Monday night MNL-SYD.

Main question to post here: I have read lists of bars / clubs on various websites and one I read I didn't save the link and forgot where I read this, maybe why'all could clue me? Said it's a club not a bar and the girls there are other bar's working girls clocked out for the night on their personal time, and you can strike up a deal with no bar fines no middle man and essentially negotiate a better rate directly with girls for what bars would normally charge. Does that synopsis ring a bell? Anyone? (Starting to wish I saved the URL I swear somewhere said this).

And would this route be recommended or stick to the bars?

Bonus question: If I can handle Tijuana MX, Reynosa MX, and a lightning quick few hours in LA Cafe, what's my survival chances in AC?

[Dg8787]

Outstanding info. Learned a lot and printing this one out.

You are welcome. If you had read the reports earlier you would have seen the info on SIM card and load, getting to Genesis Bus at Terminal 3. Getting a trike at SM City Clark.

Tasss is an honorable member. He posted reports as promised so all can learn.

Looking forward to your reports.

BTW, the stop is in Ortigas, part of Manila. The stop doesn't last more than 30 seconds for passengers to offload and onload.

[Niteluvr]

Transportation.

Flying to Manila and taking the Genesis bus to AC can save a lot of money than either flying to Clark directly or taking a taxi to AC. I flew into NAIA Terminal 1, took the shuttle to Terminal 3, which is another airport almost. The shuttle didn't check whether I had a transfer ticket, even though there's a sign that says you need to have one. When I got to T3 I had to go inside the terminal to reach some elevators to go down a level, then go out again. When I went inside the terminal, security asked me for a ticket and I just told them I'm taking the Genesis bus and they let me through. When I got to the bottom level I just asked where the Genesis bus is and they pointed me to the right direction. YMMV but I spent 45 min in between waiting for the shuttle, the shuttle time to T3, walking around T3 and waiting for the Genesis bus to leave. It was past midnight so things were probably faster than if it was a day time transfer. I was also lucky I caught the Genesis bus not very long before it was scheduled to depart. The cost is 380 p vs a 3000 p hotel taxi (which was the cost last time I took a taxi from MNL), so you decide if it's worth it or not. The bus trip itself was only 2 hrs, again being past midnight..

Outstanding info. Learned a lot and printing this one out.

[Tasss]

I've just finished my 4th AC trip. No play-by-play in this report but you can see my previous AC reports more details. I'm mostly reporting on anything different I've done this trip vs previous trips.

Transportation.

Flying to Manila and taking the Genesis bus to AC can save a lot of money than either flying to Clark directly or taking a taxi to AC. I flew into NAIA Terminal 1, took the shuttle to Terminal 3, which is another airport almost. The shuttle didn't check whether I had a transfer ticket, even though there's a sign that says you need to have one. When I got to T3 I had to go inside the terminal to reach some elevators to go down a level, then go out again. When I went inside the terminal, security asked me for a ticket and I just told them I'm taking the Genesis bus and they let me through. When I got to the bottom level I just asked where the Genesis bus is and they pointed me to the right direction. YMMV but I spent 45 min in between waiting for the shuttle, the shuttle time to T3, walking around T3 and waiting for the Genesis bus to leave. It was past midnight so things were probably faster than if it was a day time transfer. I was also lucky I caught the Genesis bus not very long before it was scheduled to depart. The cost is 380 p vs a 3000 p hotel taxi (which was the cost last time I took a taxi from MNL), so you decide if it's worth it or not. The bus trip itself was only 2 hrs, again being past midnight. Air conditioning on the bus was too strong so I suggest bringing a long sleeve shirt or something if you're prone to getting cold.

They made a stop somewhere along the way to pick up more people I guess but the first drop off is SM Clark. There are a bunch of trikes waiting there and as others mentioned in the forum already, the trike is roomy enough to fit me and my big luggage. My hotel is on A Santos Rd. I think if it was a Fields hotel they'd charge 100 p but the trike guy wanted 150. Whatever.

On the return trip, a lot of trike guys know where the Genesis bus is, or if they don't, the bus picks up at the flag pole area at SM mall. Trike was 100 p from A Santos. The bus was on time for my pickup, so don't be late. You can choose between drop off at NAIA 1, 2, or 3. I made the mistake of thinking there's a free shuttle at T3 to T1 and decided to be dropped off at T3 because it was the cheapest. But it turns out the shuttle ends at some point at night so I had to take a white taxi (about 140 p) to T1.

Hotel.

I stayed in Luxury Suites (a part of the RedDoorz chain) which is an apartment style hotel on A Santos. I would have liked Central Park but it's hard to get a 2-3 week reservation there now, unless, I suppose you reserve long in advance, which I didn't. They've also raised prices to match demand. Last year CPT was a good value, but I don't think it is now. There's at least one if not two hotels being built near Fields (Palladium and One Euphoria) so there should be more supply and more price competition coming.

Luxury Suites ended up being a good choice. It's about half the price of Central Park and the rooms are decently sized. They have two buildings across from each other. One looks a little ghetto but the one with the RedDoorz sign looks modern. I got a one bedroom apartment there and they also have studios, which are a bit smaller. No girl ever complained about the room, some liked it a lot. There's a kitchen, which is convenient. There are two issues though, one is that there's construction going on right now, and I anticipate that'll keep going for a couple of months. For the time being, it's noisy during the day, which sucks if you're a night person. Second is that it's about a quarter mile away from Fields. It doesn't sound like much but if you're making multiple round trips daily, for food, money, girls, it can wear you down, especially in the day time heat. When I got a massage girl near Cebuana for example, or after I shop from JJ's, I'd just rather pay a 100 p trike on the way back. Booking this place can be done on regular hotel sites like Hotels.com or Airbnb.

SIM card.

Although I've made 3 previous trips to AC, I never really understood how the prepaid plans work. I simply had someone at the airport do everything for me and I remembered paying something like 350 p for about a month worth of service. However it was always more than I needed so I decided to buy the SIM and load independently this trip.

Unlike what we're used to in the US, load, aka prepaid credit, is used to buy "promo codes" that apply on your account. If you use load without promo codes applied, you'll get killed on usage charges as I found out the hard way. I bought a 50 p Globe SIM this time. The most popular codes are "Gosakto", which costs 100 p and gives you 7 days of unlimited text and up to 2 GB of data, and "Gosurf50", for 1 GB and 3 days. There's also a one month 300 p code from Globe. You dial #143* on your phone to apply those codes. You can also text those codes to 8080 but that didn't work for me. If you only care about convenience, just get everything done at the airport. But if you're a penny pincher, I'd suggest checking what they're selling at the airport and comparing it against the costs I mentioned. Sometimes you'll save money, sometimes not.

Unlike what some other countries, you do need SMS in PI. Relying only on WiFi will limit your communication option with some girls. A lot of girls don't have smartphones and since popular Smart / Globe promos give you unlimited texts but limited data, people still rely on texting for communication. Many girls don't have WiFi at home so they don't have an incentive to buy a smartphone. There's a brand called TM (owned by Globe) that has 5 peso per day texting plans that I've seen a girl use.

Miscellaneous.

I hate Filipino food and everyone complains about the choices here. A couple of places I went to this time with decent food: tacos at Tequila Reef, burgers at Bunny Burger, pizza and BBQ at Juanita's Guesthouse. I'm not big on Korean food, but if I had to pick one restaurant on / near Fields I'd pick Yi San. I've had good and bad orders from Kokomo's. Envy's nice and fancy but their portions are small. I ordered Mongolian beef there, and it was cooked way too sweet.

I usually stock up on Cialis when I come to AC. 2 boxes (8 pills) can be had for 250 pesos, although you'd have to walk away sometimes before the seller accepts. The lowest price I've ever had for one box is 150 from previous trips.

Girl prices and current conditions.

The two major changes I've seen from early 2018 was the increase in barfines (along with FL prices to match) and more girls not doing BBFS. There are increasing number of newcomers to AC and the demand is up. Roughly 1/3 of all the girls I asked will not do BBFS. I've heard that the bar owners are telling girls not to do it. This is a net positive change for me since there are less STDs going around and I test before I go.

The daytime bars on Friendship and the few that are open on Walking St are charging 2000-2500, an increase of a few hundred pesos on average. Those bars open at 11:30-12 and by 1-2 pm they're mostly deserted, with the good looking girls taken already. The Walking Street bars mainly open at 6 pm with barfines usually between 3000-3500 and some girls going for 4000. This is about a 500 p increase from last year's average. If you do what the waitresses tell you to do, which is to buy drinks, pick a girl, buy her a drink, then she refuses to barfine you or does not meet your other requirements, you're looking at spending hundreds to 1000+ on wasted drinks alone. I bought single LDs for the girls and only for those who agree to barfine, and no one seemed to mind. Just tip the girl directly afterwards for her "loss" of 50 p if you want. I also tip the waitress if she finds me a girl who I end up taking.

If you want to do bargirls ST before they go to work, you can offer 1500 and increase it to 2000 if they refuse. I wouldn't pay more than 2 k. Scheduling them after work is iffy because they might get barfined that day or they'll change their mind and just go home because they're tired.

HiSo girls are increasing their prices to match the barfines. I was lucky to get one girl for 1500 one night, but most are asking for more. I always proposed 1500 first but when I hear a counteroffer of 3000 I just stop listening. Guy / girl ratio is often 1:1 approximately, which isn't very good if you have standards for looks. You eliminate the girls who are ugly, asking for stupid prices, and the girls who are just having fun there, and you end up with not that many real choices. IMO it's fine if you want to find a girl to just drink or dance with, but not a good place to pick up to get laid anymore. You've always had to deal with the drunk guys, the douchebags and second hand smoke while you were there. Before it was worth it, but I think that's no longer true. It used to be that I sourced about 1/3 of my girls from HiSo, but I only took one out this trip.

FLs walking on Fields were also sometimes asking for 3 k but I've had 2 take 1500 and one take 1800. Do these "3 k" girls know that for the same amount of money people could have just barfined got LT? I see FLs spread out all over the place now. Either that or I wasn't looking hard enough before. There are some in front of Kokomo's, in front of Philly's (has a mix of LB and real girls there, so be careful), standing at the sidewalks of walking street, green benches area near the money changers. Non-HiSo FLs picked up the slack where HiSo failed me this time. I don't know why HiSo got so shitty. Maybe because HiSo started charging cover for girls, whereas they didn't a few years back, so the girls looking for money are less inclined to go in and those that do go in look to make back their investment.

Massage girls are all over the place now too, some are in street clothes, mostly in uniform. I've seen them in front of Bunny Burger, 7-11, and in front of the shops between 7-11 and Margarita Station, along with the usual places of behind Kokomo's and in front of Cebuana. One non-uniformed massage girl also spotted me as I was walking out of After Dark, which is just a very random place. Unlike a year ago, lots of massage girls either don't do full service, don't do BBFS, or ask for 3 k. I was able to talk a 3 k massage girl down to 2 k by explaining to her that she can just tell the boss she's doing only a massage and pocketing 1600. Otherwise if she reports to the boss she's fucking a customer, she gets paid 1. 5 k and her boss gets 1. 5 k. The massage girls come out after 6 pm. They were the best bargains before, but this time not really. The price that I paid were all between 1. 5-2 k. Due to the increased prices, more difficult negotiations, and the fact that a lot of them don't do BJs, they lost a lot of value for me.

There are some touts on A Santos Rd between Johnny St and Henyfel St that will offer girls for 1 k ST. But the selection is very limited and mostly ugly. I did luck out once since I had to walk that route several times a day and met a pretty cute girl. Some girls won't go to your hotel because there's a short time hotel nearby where they expect you to go. That area's not very well lit so be careful of your belongings and use common sense.

I barfined more this time than on my previous two trips. Only on my maiden AC trip I barfined more often. I didn't expect it to be that way, but due to HiSo and massage girl options becoming worse, the value equation is now starting to favor them again. I prefer the Korean bars more than the traditional bars because usually the girls are better looking, waitresses are less pushy, and they're larger so you have more choices. The downside is sometimes the girls are placed so far away from you that you can't see their faces, and the evening gowns they wear cover up any issues they have on their stomach.

Sessions of note.

Both the best and worst experiences this trip were with bargirls. I interviewed a girl thoroughly at After School, asking her twice if she does BBFS and she said yes both times. It was her first day on the job. In my room she refused BB and didn't do BJ so I sent her back. No refunds, a waste of about 3 k including drinks and trike, but I'd rather save my energy for another girl that day. A girl from Las Vegas was a sex freak. She fucked so hard that I thought my dick was going to break and kept fucking my cock for 5 minutes after I've already shot inside her. Superb experience.

FLs are equally YMMV. A 1500 p FL outside of Phillys was a blowjob master and took a dripping creampie at the end. Never saw her again and didn't get her number because she said she was using her mom's phone. On the opposite end of the quality spectrum, I also saw one right outside RedDoorz as I was walking towards Fields. She called out to me, I bit for 1000, but I should have paid attention to her attitude, and it ended up being a really bad experience and I told her to stop and go away.

One FL I picked up in front of Kokomo's interestingly came from Manila that day, does one guy (me), and goes back same night. That cost her about 6 hours round trip I'd imagine, but 1000-1200 pesos after expenses is probably a lot better than what she makes a day in a regular job.

Final thoughts.

AC is still cheap compared to the rest of the world but its price increases faster than other destination. Therefore if you look at it purely as a fuckathon destination, it loses appeal year over year. I haven't been coming here for that long, but the changes since my first trip 4 years ago were pretty major. The whole of SE Asia is improving economically and there's just going to be more choices for these girls moving forward in terms of regular jobs or just higher paying clients.

But if you want to fall in love and deal with the issues that result from actual relationships, then the Philippines is still one of the best places for that.

[Dg8787]

I don't know if I have found what I would consider "I would pay at any price to have" kind of girl there. The point system can sometimes be a misleading indicator at least to me. It is too subjective.

All academic questions.

A few years ago there were a pair of slim toned sisters working in a bar. They dressed, walked and strut the come fuxk me part. These sisters were friendly and nice and got quite a few drinks. I wanted to barfine them that first night I was in the bar as they made me so horny for them. They both had so many drinks lined up that they pawned me off to barfine a new 20 yo girl in the bar. The new girl was so hot in bed! She wore me out. She stayed LT until the afternoon.

I would go back to the bar to see the sisters but they didn't barfine. They were so sexy and lusty that I would have paid anything for one or both. Both were a 10 and I was feeling that I had to have one or both. Turns out a few days later the younger one went with me. In the room She put on a sexy seduction worthy of a porn star. She was tight and toned. She stayed LT. A few days after that the older sister snuck out in the afternoon to my room and put on an even better performance! She only stayed st.

Every time I was in AC these sisters were a must have for me. I would have paid anything for them. I didn't have to. They would come to me separately during their off hours 2-3 k. The younger one would stay all night. Her standard answer to my question about "how many times I can finish?" was " as many times to make you happy PO" .

These 2 were my 10's!

[Ggekko2009]

I would guess that, given the pics on their websites. Great mongering hotels and would try ABC if I were on a true mongering hunt. Per the reports / videos I've seen on AC, she'd have to be a top tier girl to qualify. Have you found real 10's in AC or do you have to bring them in from other cities? School me up.

By the way, ABC is just a hotel and Club on the top floor. They don't supply girls there like bars on Walking street. If you see girls up in the club, they may be freelancers but not all of them are. I have not seen quality freelancers up there, but I have not been up there on ladies night which is on Wednesdays. So maybe there may be more girls on Wednesday nights. Your best bet is to get girls from the outside that you like and chill out or party at ABC.

[Ggekko2009]

No, I do understand AC. I was merely asking the guy if he's found any 10's there (for mongering purposes). It has nothing to do with my upcoming visit.

I don't know if I have found what I would consider "I would pay at any price to have" kind of girl there. The point system can sometimes be a misleading indicator at least to me. It is too subjective.

[Niteluvr]

You keep losing the ONLY point of AC. Nobody would bring a chick from another city under normal circumstances. The only reason to go to AC is to monger, unless you had business to attend to there. There are much better places in PI to be and to take a chick. I do not think AC comes up on anyone's list of where to bring a chick or where to go if not mongering or doing business.

No, I do understand AC. I was merely asking the guy if he's found any 10's there (for mongering purposes). It has nothing to do with my upcoming visit.