Angeles City

[Jarango]

, I'd still choose Pattaya for a virgin.

Now that would be a sight worth seeing.

[Goferring]

I'm not sure where you got the impression that drinking was required in Jakarta. I said there is NO drinking system ie need to buy a girl a drink for her to go to the room with you or spend a few minutes with you. You are not even required to buy a drink in many bars.

Jakarta is where every monger makes there biggest mistake. It took me 2 year after arriving in SEA to go to Jakarta even though I had many friends telling me to go. Once I arrived I was kicking myself for not going. Really pretty girls for dirt cheap. For value it blows away any other SEA country by a mile if you need to see a girl in person before committing. Warning it is not the place for you if you like girls over 25.

Edit. Oh I see where you thought you had to drink I said 'bar scene'. I didn't mean bar like in a disco or freelance bar like in PI. Let's take Classic for example. You go in. Ignore the mamasan. Walk around. See a girl you like. Ask her who her mamasan is. Mamasan says want 2 girls? Say NO! You pay mamasan 365,000 rupiah. Mamasan usually keeps the change if you pay her 400,000. Off you go to a room with one of the 100+ girls in the bar. Places like Classic and Travel are also spotless. Rooms look new and cleaned immediately. Rooms even nicer than the soapies in Thaiand.

The usual criticism of Jakarta is the traffic and the lack of English (esp at the cheaper places). This can be countered by the eagerness of good girls to act a tourist guide "plus plus".

I'd certainly recommend Jakarta or even wider Indonesia for a good time. Just skip Bali, where tourists are ripped off with the poor service or over charging on a regular basis.

Not withstanding the above, I'd still choose Pattaya for a virgin visitor.

Enjoy. G.

[Banana Boi]

Also not the biggest fan of drinking I'll do it social but would rather drink water or tea so might pass on the Jakarta but the Vietnam does sound very promising so I might strongly consider adding that to my summer trip.

I'm not sure where you got the impression that drinking was required in Jakarta. I said there is NO drinking system ie need to buy a girl a drink for her to go to the room with you or spend a few minutes with you. You are not even required to buy a drink in many bars.

Jakarta is where every monger makes there biggest mistake. It took me 2 year after arriving in SEA to go to Jakarta even though I had many friends telling me to go. Once I arrived I was kicking myself for not going. Really pretty girls for dirt cheap. For value it blows away any other SEA country by a mile if you need to see a girl in person before committing. Warning it is not the place for you if you like girls over 25.

Edit. Oh I see where you thought you had to drink I said 'bar scene'. I didn't mean bar like in a disco or freelance bar like in PI. Let's take Classic for example. You go in. Ignore the mamasan. Walk around. See a girl you like. Ask her who her mamasan is. Mamasan says want 2 girls? Say NO! You pay mamasan 365,000 rupiah. Mamasan usually keeps the change if you pay her 400,000. Off you go to a room with one of the 100+ girls in the bar. Places like Classic and Travel are also spotless. Rooms look new and cleaned immediately. Rooms even nicer than the soapies in Thaiand.

[Medellin65]

I frequent 3 Facebook groups of Angeles city and walking street. I posted a request for an appointment for LT sex (full night).

Indicating a budget between 2500 and 3000 php. I received 42 PMs of available girls.

At least half of them rather cute for my tastes.

This means say kboys or not there are still plenty of opportunities.

[Jarango]

Street girls are about 1000 to 1500 Peso. As with everywhere in the Phils, condoms are optional. For 2, you can thank the Pope. Philippines is strictly catholic so birth control is discouraged. Strangely, sex with strangers is not.

You didn't address, never mind answer the questions I asked.

1. I was specifically asking about hookers who are to be found 24/7 in specific streets, mostly servicing a local crowd. I imagine they are very low end and doubt they get 1000. I also imagine, my prejudice perhaps, they have high STI rates, though there are some middle aged uglies to be found in walking St.

2. The Pope has nothing to do with it. Less than 80% are Catholic and they would have a weak grasp of that. Condoms are ubiquitous in 7/11 etc. Interesting, Muslims seem to have the street trade cornered. There are plenty of documentaries online of women who got HIV in Fields yet their hooker network does not seem to mind. Their bareback default position must be almost unique.

[Expat American]

1. Has anyone ever copulated with those street hookers who hang about the dark and dangerous looking streets behind Johnny's and, if so, how much do they charge? I have passed that way many times and used the st hotel but they look rough, even for me.

2. Given that the bar girls / go go dancers have to get regular check pus (where no doubt they get appropriate cover up warnings), how come bareback cum in pussy is the default? I get their negotiating skills might not be the best but surely the penny drops when they see their pals get caught one way or another.

Street girls are about 1000 to 1500 Peso. As with everywhere in the Phils, condoms are optional. For 2, you can thank the Pope. Philippines is strictly catholic so birth control is discouraged. Strangely, sex with strangers is not.

[SouthEaster]

The key word is "brag". I have spent a shitload of time in Vietnam up and down the entire country and the era of 10 dollar pussy is practically over, especially for anything cute. Even my buddy who has lived there for most of the last 25 years is losing hope and if he can't find cheap pussy nobody can. You are more likely going to get over the hill girls and Beach Road quality if you can find it at all. Not saying it doesn't exist but you have to really be in the know and in the right place to find this. The 400-500 K though online is doable. As you stated plenty of them and some not bad looking and decent service. Just don't expect a beauty queen for 15-20 bucks.

[FuriousGeorge]

Well they're allowing videos at the Score Birds bikini competition, or at least they made one exception. I will say the talent level has dropped significantly. That Shooters video had better options in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19lxLvEKS_I

This guy. He gets everything wrong here, at least as it pertains to me. Except for one answer "Where do you stay?" Second best answer is ABC. Second because it means you have money which they are happy to extract, but also you need to take a trike to get there and back. The best answer - "Central Park Tower". You have money but you don't waste it and you are two blocks away from where we are currently sitting and one block away from where you probably live. I can't say I agree with any of his other opinions on this subject. If I say I'm there for 3 more weeks, they get happy and clap and hug me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDfiem-cM28

[Melb4476]

Being Korean doesn't matter at all to the girls. The girls welcome Koreans anywhere in SEA. In fact, you could possibly be the favorite nationality even more so than Japanese. Now if you read sex boards there is much anger towards Koreans by many posters because Weekend Millionaire Koreans have invaded and driven up prices in PI, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.

I'm not sure what you mean by not having a Korean body. You mean you're a bigger guy? Body size doesn't matter to these girls. They're used to being with VERY heavy men in TH or PI.

What is of a bit of concern is your budget of 200-250. Is that USD? 1 gogo girl LT in Pattaya is $200 US including barfine. That' would be your entire budget. This is not including lady drinks which are hell not cheap in Pattaya any more. Up to $7 US for 1 LD. Some top girls will not even go with you unless you buy them a number of LD's. Not sure of current LD pricing in AC. Now there are many cheaper option in Pattaya as well. From highest to lowest priced there are gogo (5000ST, 7000 LT), soapies (1800-5000), Soi 6 (1400-2400ST), G clubs (1300), BJ bars (1300), beer bars (1000-1300?),
Oilies (1200-1300), freelancers (800-1500?), Beach Road girls (500 reportedly - 1200?). I have put the cost in in baht in brackets including barfine if applicable. Cost is somewhat correlated to looks. For example, not saying you can't find a cute oily girl here and there but chances of you doing that in a couple of days will be slim.

I took a quick peek at your posts and noticed you went to hyugetels in Seoul. If you don't mind the online scene by far the place you should go to is Ho Chi Minh. I've met guys who brag to me they get cute Vietnam girls for $10. You can look on Gaito and you will see a ton of girls from 400,000 dong ($16 US) to 1 million dong ($41 US). You get huge bang for your buck in HCM. On top of that the girls are young and cute, hotels and food are cheaper than Pattaya. You just have to weed out ladyboys as you do in Pattaya and AC as well.

Now if you want the bar scene, clear choice is to go to Jakarta. Most bars with some beautiful young girls for 365,000 rupiah ($23 US). The quality in some of these bars can only be matched by the gogo bars in Pattaya as well as the most expensive girls in soapies. Best part is the is no drink system where girls make money on drinks in Jakarta. Even if you offer them a drink to be nice they're much cheaper than Pattaya.

Again, being Korean won't affect any of these choices.

Well summarised post, am a frequent visitor to Pattaya, and the prices you have mentioned are spot on. Haven't used gaito, my personal expereince has been that freelancers in HCM and Hanoi are more expensive than pattaya, but agree that they are much cuter and young.

[Jcbro]

I 100% agree. With the one exception.

JcBro:You say this is your first sex trip. Have you been to Tijuana. If you are on the west coast USA. I would go to Tijuana first to get ripped off a few times before you begin to shoot up H. In Asia.

So I stay on Guam where its significantly cheaper to go to Asia that it is to go any western places like a trip to Korea only cost me 350 round trip and sometimes I can even get tickets to the Philippines for 400 round but with my miles it will only cost me $40 bucks in fees.

Pattaya is 2 x cleaner. The food is at minimum 3 x better. How many Thai restaurants have you seen in your country? Now how many Philippine restaurants have you seen? Ever even heard about one? The number of quality restaurants per square mile is 10 x. The number of women is 10 x. Pattaya has a beach. Not really worth swimming in but great sunsets and to walk along. Angeles during rainy season sucks! If you only have one vacation in your life then the choice is clear.

There is a lot of both restaurants and I do like both Thai and Filipino food but I am going to go to taiwan in the summer for a food adventure with a friend I know who lives there.

Being Korean doesn't matter at all to the girls. The girls welcome Koreans anywhere in SEA. In fact, you could possibly be the favorite nationality even more so than Japanese. Now if you read sex boards there is much anger towards Koreans by many posters because Weekend Millionaire Koreans have invaded and driven up prices in PI, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.

Yeah I'm a big dude not like incredibly overweight but I do got a beer belly and when I go to Korea alot of people there tells me that I'm definitely more American than Korean.

In regards to the budget I was thinking about doing a quick trip since it will be my birthday coming up 2 weeks from now and right now I am not working ATM so my budget is tight ie $600 but the flight will cost me $40 for PI and $130 for Thailand so I might consider going to Pattaya during the summer since I will also be having a job at mid December where I can save up alot more for that trip but considering your post an other things I been looking up it seems I will need a significantly bigger budget for Thailand.

Also not the biggest fan of drinking I'll do it social but would rather drink water or tea so might pass on the Jakarta but the Vietnam does sound very promising so I might strongly consider adding that to my summer trip.

So essentially it looking like for my summer trip I'll do a taiwan (to visit friends) and do a vietman / pattaya for a long sex trip but then I got a follow up to all of this with a budget of 550 - 600 for 2 - 3 days how much actions will I be able to have in AC since the PI is only a 3. 5 HR flight or what would yall recommend would be a good starting budget for any of these locations so I have a better understand how much I should save for the summer and how much would I spend for a quick time in the PI.

[Banana Boi]

So I have a bunch of miles I have to spend soon and I never had a sex trip before and having little sexual history I heard from a lot of my older co workers who always told me to go to PI the be less stress and "become a man" but after reading a bit in this forum seems like AC isn't like what they told me but regardless with it still be better to go AC or save up more funds and go to Pattaya instead and also I can realistically do like 2 - 3 days for AC and my budget would be like 200 - 250 (just for sex) at most to try to indulge in long or even whole day experiences. I know if I dig deeper in the forum I would get my answer but it seems like the most part a lot of the recent post is mostly the Korean invasion and how it worsen AC which makes it awkward since I am Korean but I was born and raised in America and reading how a lot of my people fucking it up making it seems like if I look Korean too the bars will also up charge me but then again my face is Korean but I don't got a Korean body so I just want more updated info about the procedures because I read up online and this forum and the bar fine and the ST vs the LT seems to vary drastically and I'm really looking to do a LT session then ST session so would appreciate any advise or suggestions on this matter.

Being Korean doesn't matter at all to the girls. The girls welcome Koreans anywhere in SEA. In fact, you could possibly be the favorite nationality even more so than Japanese. Now if you read sex boards there is much anger towards Koreans by many posters because Weekend Millionaire Koreans have invaded and driven up prices in PI, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.

I'm not sure what you mean by not having a Korean body. You mean you're a bigger guy? Body size doesn't matter to these girls. They're used to being with VERY heavy men in TH or PI.

What is of a bit of concern is your budget of 200-250. Is that USD? 1 gogo girl LT in Pattaya is $200 US including barfine. That' would be your entire budget. This is not including lady drinks which are hell not cheap in Pattaya any more. Up to $7 US for 1 LD. Some top girls will not even go with you unless you buy them a number of LD's. Not sure of current LD pricing in AC. Now there are many cheaper option in Pattaya as well. From highest to lowest priced there are gogo (5000ST, 7000 LT), soapies (1800-5000), Soi 6 (1400-2400ST), G clubs (1300), BJ bars (1300), beer bars (1000-1300?),
Oilies (1200-1300), freelancers (800-1500?), Beach Road girls (500 reportedly - 1200?). I have put the cost in in baht in brackets including barfine if applicable. Cost is somewhat correlated to looks. For example, not saying you can't find a cute oily girl here and there but chances of you doing that in a couple of days will be slim.

I took a quick peek at your posts and noticed you went to hyugetels in Seoul. If you don't mind the online scene by far the place you should go to is Ho Chi Minh. I've met guys who brag to me they get cute Vietnam girls for $10. You can look on Gaito and you will see a ton of girls from 400,000 dong ($16 US) to 1 million dong ($41 US). You get huge bang for your buck in HCM. On top of that the girls are young and cute, hotels and food are cheaper than Pattaya. You just have to weed out ladyboys as you do in Pattaya and AC as well.

Now if you want the bar scene, clear choice is to go to Jakarta. Most bars with some beautiful young girls for 365,000 rupiah ($23 US). The quality in some of these bars can only be matched by the gogo bars in Pattaya as well as the most expensive girls in soapies. Best part is the is no drink system where girls make money on drinks in Jakarta. Even if you offer them a drink to be nice they're much cheaper than Pattaya.

Again, being Korean won't affect any of these choices.

[GentileBear]

For a first trip, I'd just go to Pattaya, not AC. Patts beats AC in any objective comparison:


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I 100% agree. With the one exception.

JcBro:You say this is your first sex trip. Have you been to Tijuana. If you are on the west coast USA. I would go to Tijuana first to get ripped off a few times before you begin to shoot up H. In Asia.

I am being tongue in cheek. But once you start going to Asia. There is no going back. Also. Don't know your age but please do not fall in love. You are paying them to leave not to stay in your life.

-just my $0. 02.

[MoonShot]

For a first trip, I'd just go to Pattaya, not AC. Patts beats AC in any objective comparison:

It's much much bigger.

The average girl there is prettier than an average AC girl, as are the stunners.

Low cost options for girls aren't totally hideous. The lower end of the market in AC can get pretty rough.

There are literally thousands of girls across all types of delivery platforms. You can choose from beer bars, Gogo's, online, gents clubs, soi 6, massages and freelancers with many options at all of them.

Much better food and hotel options.

Many activities to do during the day while not mongering, if you wish.

Zero acclimatisation time for a first time visitor. In AC it will take time to find a bar you like, choose between Gogo's and freelancer etc. Patts you can step out the taxi and start fucking even if you have never been there before.

The whole (not) accepting Koreans isn't even a consideration in Pattaya. Being K focussed and all the positives (girls' willingness) and negatives (price gouging) is it's own industry in AC.

Enjoy. G.

I agree on all points. So much easier to go to Pattaya. Better cheaper hotels, great food, easy point and click action, prettier girls, much more girls.

[Goferring]

One thing about AC that I felt, was how lawless that place could be. They couldn't solve a murder there if it was on video. It was like escape from LA with thousands of hos in bikinis with nothing to hold up.

Its much weirder than you think. I will PM you.

Not sure if TJB is aware that investigations generally only proceed if funded by the person or family affected. Socially funded investigations only happen when there is wide public interest.

If your house is robbed, it's up to you to fund the police investigations.

Hence, cases that are not solved for 'lack of evidence' are because no one is looking, not incompetence.

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

So I have a bunch of miles I have to spend soon and I never had a sex trip before and having little sexual history I heard from a lot of my older co workers who always told me to go to PI the be less stress and "become a man" but after reading a bit in this forum seems like AC isn't like what they told me but regardless with it still be better to go AC or save up more funds and go to Pattaya instead and also I can realistically do like 2 - 3 days for AC and my budget would be like 200 - 250 (just for sex) at most to try to indulge in long or even whole day experiences. I know if I dig deeper in the forum I would get my answer but it seems like the most part a lot of the recent post is mostly the Korean invasion and how it worsen AC which makes it awkward since I am Korean but I was born and raised in America and reading how a lot of my people fucking it up making it seems like if I look Korean too the bars will also up charge me but then again my face is Korean but I don't got a Korean body so I just want more updated info about the procedures because I read up online and this forum and the bar fine and the ST vs the LT seems to vary drastically and I'm really looking to do a LT session then ST session so would appreciate any advise or suggestions on this matter.

For a first trip, I'd just go to Pattaya, not AC. Patts beats AC in any objective comparison:

It's much much bigger.

The average girl there is prettier than an average AC girl, as are the stunners.

Low cost options for girls aren't totally hideous. The lower end of the market in AC can get pretty rough.

There are literally thousands of girls across all types of delivery platforms. You can choose from beer bars, Gogo's, online, gents clubs, soi 6, massages and freelancers with many options at all of them.

Much better food and hotel options.

Many activities to do during the day while not mongering, if you wish.

Zero acclimatisation time for a first time visitor. In AC it will take time to find a bar you like, choose between Gogo's and freelancer etc. Patts you can step out the taxi and start fucking even if you have never been there before.

The whole (not) accepting Koreans isn't even a consideration in Pattaya. Being K focussed and all the positives (girls' willingness) and negatives (price gouging) is it's own industry in AC.

Enjoy. G.