Angeles City

[Errol Flynn]

So I'm on WS today and I buy my girl a drink, waitress comes over and asks if I'd get her another. Said no I'll barfine her. So she asks the girl if she agreed to be barfined, girl said yes so the waitress turned to me and said you pay for your drinks and you give your girl 4500 pesos. My mind is trying to comprehend what was said. Do I pay the bars cut to the bar? Does the girl get the entire amount and when she comes back she pays the bar? So I asked again and the waitress said 'you hand your girl 4500' and she will go to the cashier and give them the money. Guess its their way of not having a number written down on the drink invoices? Maybe just the waitress who doesn't want to handle this money? So I handed my girl 4500 and she walked towards the back bar and shortly emerged in street clothes.

Different bars seem to handle it differently but usually the BF is paid separately from the drinks (although one time for me it covered the drinks). It might be going through the Mama or Papa San, it is probably not going directly through the girl. At Lolipop for instance, the girl gets 1850 pesos from the 4000 peso barfine, but she doesn't get it right away, it comes totaled on her weekly paystub that is emailed to her (I saw a stub).

4500 is high. I had Bars say I was with a "special" girl who was 4500 or 5000 but they all accepted 4000 when I objected. Not that there aren't exceptions but 4000 seems to be very much the standard.

[Breadman]

So I'm on WS today and I buy my girl a drink, waitress comes over and asks if I'd get her another. Said no I'll barfine her. So she asks the girl if she agreed to be barfined, girl said yes so the waitress turned to me and said you pay for your drinks and you give your girl 4500 pesos. My mind is trying to comprehend what was said. Do I pay the bars cut to the bar? Does the girl get the entire amount and when she comes back she pays the bar? So I asked again and the waitress said 'you hand your girl 4500' and she will go to the cashier and give them the money. Guess its their way of not having a number written down on the drink invoices? Maybe just the waitress who doesn't want to handle this money? So I handed my girl 4500 and she walked towards the back bar and shortly emerged in street clothes.

[Gorrion]

A few others.

RBI restaurant in Queens Hotel.

Restaurant located in Clarkton Hotel.

Restaurant located in Savannah Hotel.

Thank you! I'll take note of those as well. I had already read good things about the Queens Hotel one, so I'll have to try it out since that's where I'll be staying in AC.

[Dg8787]

Thanks for the restaurant recommendations in AC, they'll be really helpful when I go there for the first time in a few months. Cheers!

A few others.

RBI restaurant in Queens Hotel.

Restaurant located in Clarkton Hotel.

Restaurant located in Savannah Hotel.

[Dg8787]

I'm a bit paranoid at doing BB and wanted to find a place to do STD test and get antibiotics to be safe. Any recommendations for where I should go in Angeles City?

There is a clinic located by Queens Hotel.

1. Facing Queens Hotel it is directly to the left 10 meters. I don't remember the name of the clinic. It is small but efficient for your needs.

Don't ask me where is Queens Hotel. Just tell any trike driver to take you there. Don't over think it. Just stand in front of Queens Hotel and turn your head left.

Thank me later.

[Gorrion]

I'll get back to the FRs soon, but want to comment on Restaurants. Again, this is mostly aimed at PI newbies.

Thanks for the restaurant recommendations in AC, they'll be really helpful when I go there for the first time in a few months. Cheers!

[Errol Flynn]

I'll get back to the FRs soon, but want to comment on Restaurants. Again, this is mostly aimed at PI newbies.

The old standards: Around Walking Street there are a number of restaurants that are ex-pat / foreigner oriented that have been mentioned many times on this board. They all have a reason to exist.

Kokomos is pretty much ground zero on Walking Street. They have a HUGE menu including traditional Filipino food, standard western fare, pasta, pizzas and more. In my experience the food is all okay, but not spectacular. You don't (usually) come to Walking Street for the cuisine. What is spectacular is the bar / counter that faces the street. Great views of the action and frequently interesting company from other mongers. Prices are reasonable. Service is Filipino (vert friendly but inattentive). Some of the waitresses are HOT and a few guys seem to have hooked up with some but I have no experience with that. Kokomos takes credit cards if you spend at least 500 pesos. There is an ATM at one end of the restaurant, bathrooms are in the back past the bar. Good place to have an SML and watch the moving scenery. Bar girls are all comfortable visiting Kokomos.

Tequila Reef: TR is a block behind Kokomos just off Walking Street and half way to CPT. I believe it is the same ownership as Margarita Station. There is a Cali / Mex accent to the food, but again they do a broad range that includes Filipino favorites and standard American fare. They have outdoor seating, but the view isn't as good as Kokomos. I usually chose indoors with Air Conditioning at TR. I mostly went here for Breakfast (coffee with one refill included, or a mean bloody mary, not included). Girls were also comfortable here. A little less collegial than Kokomos, but I'd rate the quality of food and service a touch higher (prices are also a touch higher, but nothing to worry about). These places all have guest WiFi if you ask for the password.

Margarita Station: A little bit past the entrance to Walking Street on Fields. Still an easy walk from CPT or other hotels. I only went here once, late at night, at the request of the girl I was with. Seemed nice, pretty similar to TR.

Envy (at Hotel Envy): Across the street from Margarita Station, I gather this is a popular breakfast spot for expats in the early hours (7-9 am). It is large with both indoor and outdoor seating (outdoor seats front Fields). Again I only visited once, in this case with a girl who suggested it. Breakfast food seemed pretty good. Cold AC inside, nothing to complain about.

For good food: This is a matter of personal preference, but for those of you who want the opposite of the Jollibees experience, I have a couple suggestions (I'm sure there are others).

Spice Viet: They have 4 locations, but the one we care about is the Walking Street shop. Spice Viet is owned by the Filipina wife of a Vietnamese / American expat. He will tell you that it's not entirely authentic Vietnamese food (but he will also tell you that his wife is the best cook in the world). The food is more than tasty, it's an antidote to the overcooked overly fatty overly white carbs stuff common in AC, Loads of fresh vegetables and interesting spices. Plus a huge beer list. Except the staff can't find any of the beer on the list, one of the owners has to be there for that. Prices are quite reasonable, but this may not be a place you want to take a BF as they won't get it. Better to sit alone at the counter (which has as good a view as Kokomos but only seats about 4) and watch the bar girls from next door (who come in for cigs and chips) or the massage girls across the street. A hidden gem in my book. But you need to like veggies.

Patches: Phenomenal Thai Restaurant. A short trike ride down Fields from Walking Street. Casual / hip, in an old house, no reservations. Reasonable prices but superb Thai seafood. I took a Mindanao girl here. She had never eatyen Thai Food and was scared (she did like seafood). She was thrilled, in fact I think that'; s when she fell in love with me (hehe). If you like Thai food don't miss it.

Other: At the bottom of Walking Street is a proper McDonalds. That's not my thing, but I stuck my head in several times because I had heard it was a Freelancer hangut. I only saw families, but if you're craving the taste of the USA it's an option. If you want chains but more sophistication the mall has a huge Food Court. It's an easy walk (although hot in the worst hours of the afternoon.) It's clean and safe, but no I didn't see FLs there (maybe I need new glasses).

There are many other restaurants in AC. I saw Indian, Afghani and Pakistani, Korean and Japanese. This is just my experience. Don't think the food options are going to be terrible. It's not Thailand, but there are options. Enjoy.

[Takdmo]

I'm a bit paranoid at doing BB and wanted to find a place to do STD test and get antibiotics to be safe. Any recommendations for where I should go in Angeles City?

[Errol Flynn]

The other good thing about CPT is there is a giant mirror wall opposite the elevators. While you are waiting there for the elevator with the girl of the day, you pretend you just thought of taking a picture, and you face the mirror and get a nice full body selfie, then another in the elevator. This was a great way to document all the girls for reminiscing when you return home to boring life.

It didn't occur to me to use the mirror that way. So much to learn. But the girls liked it. They also liked shooting Tick Tock videos all over the hotel. I had a hard time kicking one ST girl out.

[Goferring]

As Westie said is roughly the same as WA.

If it's the same, then why change? Anyone who thinks that 'the man' can't access a particular widespread app is just kidding themselves. If they want it, then they will get it either thru subpoena or crack and tap.

I'll pass. I gave up pretending that I had any private info long ago and I've already got enough crap in my phone not to need any more.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

As Westie said is roughly the same as WA.

Also try Signal. This is also popular as some now don't trust WA.

In some counties am sure there is some collusion between the app and the authorities as some will say Signal has better encryption etc. Is why many friends have switched to Signal incl some on tis board.

All apps are in collusion with the government in each country. They comply with Court orders routinely if they keep records. Numerous of the US January 6 defendants were convicted with help from either subpoena'd or government-hacked private and encrypted Signal chats.

https://gizmodo.com/authorities-clai...ats-1848361100

[Wicked Roger]

I know nothing about Telegram but almost everything I hear about it is connected with anonymity and use by scammers. Exactly what is it and how does it work? Have you found it reliable?

Cheers. G.

As Westie said is roughly the same as WA.

Also try Signal. This is also popular as some now don't trust WA.

In some counties am sure there is some collusion between the app and the authorities as some will say Signal has better encryption etc. Is why many friends have switched to Signal incl some on tis board.

[FuriousGeorge]

This is the room I stay in (if it's the big room with the giant tv on the desk in the middle). It's really easy to connect your laptop to the tv and put on music videos for the girls when they come over. You got lucky that you faced south, which gives you a view. That room only faces north and south and the north view is that half completed monstrosity of a building. Your view consists of concrete and rebar 6 feet from your face.

The other good thing about CPT is there is a giant mirror wall opposite the elevators. While you are waiting there for the elevator with the girl of the day, you pretend you just thought of taking a picture, and you face the mirror and get a nice full body selfie, then another in the elevator. This was a great way to document all the girls for reminiscing when you return home to boring life.

My room (Executive something with the big tub and glass windows to the bathroom, something like floor 8) was quite nice in all regards, no balcony but big windows with a view of AC (didn't impress me but the girls all LOVED the view). Good blackout curtains, nicely stocked at fair prices in mini bar, no complaints about the room. I was disappointed in the airport pickup (as previously described), plus the lobby ATM never worked during the eight days I was there. The service at the rooftop bar / restaurant was TERRIBLE (but that's a PI thing). Food up there was mediocre, but there are many other options.

[Errol Flynn]

I'll get to the negatives that I saw, but other than price they are pretty meaningless...

...I was disappointed in the airport pickup (as previously described), plus the lobby ATM never worked during the eight days I was there. The service at the rooftop bar / restaurant was TERRIBLE (but that's a PI thing). Food up there was mediocre, but there are many other options.

These are all minor, but FYI.

As noted before it takes a LONG time for the hot water to get to the 8th floor, but once you figure out the handle and that you need to start it early it's fine. There's plenty of hot water. Two bath towels a day are not enough for the activities (and multiple guests) the Hotel's customers are involved in. They should know that. Similarly, the two tiny tubes of shampoo are not enough. I recommend bringing your own. On the plus side they do gift you two cheap toothbrushes a day. I had brought some with me, but the girls all want a toothbrush, so the Hotel brushes helped. (all the Hotels I stayed in provided toothbrushes. I have no idea why the girls don't carry one in their purse).

The door to my room had an automatic closer, but it wasn't strong enough to latch it. You had to pay attention or you could leave your room unlocked. Finally, the front desk wasn't very helpful with Concierge type requests, those were clearly outside their wheelhouse.

Still, the only reason I wouldn't stay at CPT again would be to save money. You don't need CPT, but it is nice (I might try ABC just to experience it, but the distance would probably keep me away.

Hope this helps. My posts are mostly aimed at guys in the position I was in a few months ago. Planning (or maybe just considering) a first trip to the PI. I know there's not much I can add for the veterans.

[WestCoast1]

I know nothing about Telegram but almost everything I hear about it is connected with anonymity and use by scammers. Exactly what is it and how does it work? Have you found it reliable?

Like WA, its private end-2-end encrypted messaging.