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  1. #30574
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    5000 bar fine + 150 drink + 250 LD + 50 waitress tip = $99 at 55 p / usd or $121 at 45 p / usd.
    This is still 3000 + 90 peso drink + 150 LD+ 50 waitress tip = 3290/$60 at 55 or $73 at 45 on the perimeter if the php does come down the more budget minded mongers will move further down and that area will come alive again and the koreas will go BK on walking street and we should see another changing of the guard at that point as well. We should really thank them for keeping the lights on during this troubled time tbh. They are kind of doing it for not much profit and not much real gain and animosity.

  2. #30573
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    Ah, so a $600 barfine in Mexico is ok because its in "North America"?.. got it.
    Can see why he calls himself RainMan, aptly named. Excellent command of mathematics.

  3. #30572
    Quote Originally Posted by ATraveler  [View Original Post]
    I way trying to cross a street and a guy pick-pocked my iPhone. Buy a cheap phone you wouldn't care about losing, and keep you iPhone in the safe.
    Can you elaborate on this? Was this crossing the street to SM clark and their have been reports of some teenage gang activity in the dark area before the jeepney terminal and stop light.

  4. #30571
    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    Don't worry. Keep playing to the bars and girls tunes and one day in the very near future you too will be able to proudly proclaim that angeles barfines rival those of North America. This time in 2019 the barfines were around 50% cheaper than they are today. One bar in fields (barnana) already has a 10 k barfine. 10 k is what I would expect to pay in makati, not in bumfuck nowhere pampanga.
    Price and Value is always relative. For me personally, AC has lost its value proposition after Covid, although the decline started before that. I am fortunate to not live in the US so my easiest fuck is a $100 Thai girl for 90 min GFE where I live now without any travel. So any travel has to offer something better and AC most definitely does not. If your baseline is DFE US hookers at $600/ pop maybe your easiest fuck is Mexico or the DR or Colombia depending on which coast you are on. So you should compare AC with those destinations and see if it is worth it. If you are European and have easy access to FKK maybe its another calculation. Or maybe you just love that Pinay pussy and don't care what it costs, then go for it.

  5. #30570

    Mexifornia

    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    Don't worry. Keep playing to the bars and girls tunes and one day in the very near future you too will be able to proudly proclaim that angeles barfines rival those of North America.
    Ah, so a $600 barfine in Mexico is ok because its in "North America"?.. got it.

  6. #30569
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    Its expensive compared to pre covid.

    Its expensive compared to the Clark Base days pre 1990.

    But its damn cheap compared to other locations.

    Case in point look at the Guadalajara, Mexico page on ISG. Someone went in a gogo bar there:

    $60 cover charge.

    $29 ladies drinks.

    $590, YES FOLKS FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY US DOLLARS barfine for ST (10,000 mexican pesos).

    AND PEOPLE ARE STILL BITCHING ABOUT $90 ANGELES BARFINES FOR OVERNIGHT STAYS?

    Oy vey.
    Don't worry. Keep playing to the bars and girls tunes and one day in the very near future you too will be able to proudly proclaim that angeles barfines rival those of North America. This time in 2019 the barfines were around 50% cheaper than they are today. One bar in fields (barnana) already has a 10 k barfine. 10 k is what I would expect to pay in makati, not in bumfuck nowhere pampanga.

  7. #30568
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    So I can go there and bang all the hot girls.
    7-10 years ago many bars had a wild child party girl that could get the other girls out of their shell and get the customers to relax and open up (mostly their drinking wallets for shots). These fun girls are gone in the Korean bars and missing in so many of the remaining Western run bars. So sad so many of you old timers seem to have forgotten about these girls and new guys have never seen one out in the wild. The Koreans do not like these types of girls. Now they have these boring girls that hang on their arms and follow them around while rarely smiling.

    Angeles is in trouble because the wild child party girls are pretty much gone which has sucked a lot of the fun out of the bars and going out bar hopping with the girls. Guys like me who like ST will not be returning. High Society is gone and other discos are very poor replacements for freelancer pickups (older bar girls and guys that new HISO pretty much all agree). Only 2 of 10ST bars remain and with fewer girls. The Koreans hate the Chinese and Japanese from prior wars, not fond of whites, and look down on anyone with brown skin. Non-Koreans are not warmly welcomed into their bars so why would a non-Korean want to keep returning? So many will not even go into Korean bars. Once the currency exchange drops from the current highs of 55 p / usd back down to 45 p / usd the costs for these girls is not worth the trip for a now larger group of USA Citizens.

    5000 bar fine + 150 drink + 250 LD + 50 waitress tip = $99 at 55 p / usd or $121 at 45 p / usd.

  8. #30567

    Angeles is expensive.

    Its expensive compared to pre covid.

    Its expensive compared to the Clark Base days pre 1990.

    But its damn cheap compared to other locations.

    Case in point look at the Guadalajara, Mexico page on ISG. Someone went in a gogo bar there:

    $60 cover charge.

    $29 ladies drinks.

    $590, YES FOLKS FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY US DOLLARS barfine for ST (10,000 mexican pesos).

    AND PEOPLE ARE STILL BITCHING ABOUT $90 ANGELES BARFINES FOR OVERNIGHT STAYS?

    Oy vey.

  9. #30566
    Looks like our esteemed local expert is back, but I've been here for two days and can confirm he is talking NonSense. The place was pretty hopping on Friday and Saturday night. I didn't have a problem finding a cute 21 year old with nice su sus and hips. On my first night, and she worked hard to please me. On Saturday there were a couplenot old, slim cuties at Avalon, and quite a few cuties at Gecco's. I scored a 21 year old beauty with a perfect body. I know looks are subjective, but she's a perfect 10: tall, slim, flat tummy, no baby, and amazing perky su sus. Only issue is she was fresh from Samar and inexperienced. She said she only had boom boom with her ex boyfriend one time. Maybe he dumped her because it was a huge effort to get her to BF and eventually get her naked. She was crazy tight and I took a while get it in, but I eventually banged her for a long time. Unfortunately she didn't want boom boom in the morning. I'm here for a while, so I might try again with her since she's so stunning. Although she's not up to NS's standards I'm sure.

    On the down side, the place is still a shithole and there's nothing to do during the day. And it's dangerous. I way trying to cross a street and a guy pick-pocked my iPhone. Buy a cheap phone you wouldn't care about losing, and keep you iPhone in the safe.

  10. #30565
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    So I can go there and bang all the hot girls.
    This is when real mongers come out to play imo. When all the weekend millionaires leave this is a perfect storm for real mongers. A little game, a little money, and a lot of fun.

  11. #30564
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    So I can go there and bang all the hot girls.
    Yuh, me too, P123. While the quality has declined and prices have soared, there is still a lot of fun to be had. Even amongst non-bar girls if one has game. An occasional gem if one is lucky! Cheers!

  12. #30563

    Naysayers; Please keep telling everyone how bad it is

    So I can go there and bang all the hot girls.

  13. #30562
    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    AC is still imo a great hunting ground with a lot of willing and attractive girls.

    Barfined a girl from vikings all most always do but this was one of the most disastrous barfines I have had in a while was a horrible time. This girl wanted covered BJ and no DATY or kissing of any kind. A big red flag is if they are in an "open relationship" with another monger I didn't know this until I had my dick in hand chatting with her about "life". They negotiate a sponsorship deal and continue to work at the bar. That's what you get with these hotter looking girls I usually don't partake in these "hot" looking girls and for good reason I wasn't happy she asked for a tip and I said "go play in traffic" which flew over this very "smart" girls head as she walked out of my life hopefully I never see this girl again would be a reminder of my failure to filter out these loonies. Felt more like a doctor exam like I was getting milked than sex.
    Did I read that correctly? Covered BJ in Angeles city? For a 5 k Peso bar fine? Okay, maybe it was an isolated incident but these things have a way of spreading. Default LT became mostly ST. Nudity from bars is gone. Girls wearing full length dresses on stage. And now we hear of covered BJ in the land of unrestricted BBFS! Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse!

  14. #30561

    Perspective Based on Experience

    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your honest thoughts, I tend to agree fully.

    Yes those of us that were around many moons ago and went to bars that had hundreds of 18/19 year old slim, attractive straight from the province girls that would all without exception barfine and fuck all night for a few hundred pesos are mainly shocked at what the new angeles city has become.

    Yes those days are never coming back, not even close, hence why angeles has been so dead for western punters, as many have said many destinations the world over, especially asia where a good time can be had at many times the same or cheaper prices as angeles.

    Punters are not fools, if they are not happy they tend to vote with their feet as can be seen by many many empty western bars on walking st and also fields avenue.
    In my opinion, guys who think Angeles City is great usually are new or relatively new to Angeles City. For guys who have been visiting Angeles City for years, it is hard not to compare the experience to the old days and be disappointed. If you have no point of comparison, and you're just comparing it to your home country, then it is great. But if you have experienced the way it was, it is a shadow of what it used to be. That doesn't mean that you won't' have a good time in Angeles City, it just means it is not as great or cheap as it used to be years ago. I first visited Angeles City 35 years old and the attitude of the girls back then was very different.

  15. #30560

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Nice report and glad you enjoyed. But having to buy a drink before stepping inside and 9 k Barfine? I am not paying $200 to fuck a Filipina in AC. I understand inflation but no way. And girls wearing dresses in bars, going only with Asians again, sorry no. I still remember the days of naked girls licking whipped cream off each other in the bars before fucking your brains out all night for 2 K barfine and you would have to kick them out the next day or they would never leave. I know those days are never coming back but once you have had that I can't abide the new AC. I don't think I'm ever going back.
    Thanks for your honest thoughts, I tend to agree fully.

    Yes those of us that were around many moons ago and went to bars that had hundreds of 18/19 year old slim, attractive straight from the province girls that would all without exception barfine and fuck all night for a few hundred pesos are mainly shocked at what the new angeles city has become.

    Yes those days are never coming back, not even close, hence why angeles has been so dead for western punters, as many have said many destinations the world over, especially asia where a good time can be had at many times the same or cheaper prices as angeles.

    Punters are not fools, if they are not happy they tend to vote with their feet as can be seen by many many empty western bars on walking st and also fields avenue.

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