Angeles City

[WestCoast1]

NS, please post some pictures of your girls so we can establish a baseline of 7-8-9-10 beauties.

"Picture Guy" concurs. Post one of each please, for reference purposes.

[D Cups]

Yes, NS has scared off the never been to AC. Those that have been experience a different reality.

I will be back soon and already have a few new 18-20 yo lined up thru the Friends and Family Plan. Along with some of the previous ones. My card is so booked up that I may not need to step in to a bar on this upcoming trip.

NS, please post some pictures of your girls so we can establish a baseline of 7-8-9-10 beauties.

Napa Slapper and Choca Momger may well be the same person.

[Dg8787]

There are plenty of young, cute girls in Angeles. Sadly Napa struggles to find them but the large majority of people who have left reports recently, myself included, have had plenty of luck finding pretty 18-22 year old girls. You don't need to be Korean, you just need to smile and have good vibes. Angeles is like a sweet shop at the moment.

Yes, NS has scared off the never been to AC. Those that have been experience a different reality.

I will be back soon and already have a few new 18-20 yo lined up thru the Friends and Family Plan. Along with some of the previous ones. My card is so booked up that I may not need to step in to a bar on this upcoming trip.

NS, please post some pictures of your girls so we can establish a baseline of 7-8-9-10 beauties.

[Mongoose312]

Is that tiny little bar. I think "Party Bar" still kicking on A Santos? I loved that little rat-hole. Those girls are hit and miss but sometimes you find a diamond, and barfines are so low that there's not a lot of buyers remorse if she turns into a starfish.

[Sir Lancelot]

Thank you for such an amazing post. Thank you!

So, any recommendations for what cities to go for young, cute girls if you're not Korean?

There are plenty of young, cute girls in Angeles. Sadly Napa struggles to find them but the large majority of people who have left reports recently, myself included, have had plenty of luck finding pretty 18-22 year old girls. You don't need to be Korean, you just need to smile and have good vibes. Angeles is like a sweet shop at the moment.

[Sir Lancelot]

Kissing a girl is a turn on for most guys but not sure most guys would want to kiss a prostitute that makes a living out of sucking multiple strangers dicks that have cum in her mouth, maybe even moments before one kissed her, but each to their own tastes.

If you follow your flawed logic then why have sex with any girl in Angeles?

[NapaSlapper]

At the risk of being called a 'dreamer' again for having a different view to yours, kissing is a my biggest turn-on and ALL eight of the girls I fucked on my recent trip to Angeles practically ate my face off they were so passionate.

You will of course suggest this is because the girls were old and ugly, your go-to stance whenever someone else is having better luck than you, but they were all 18-20 apart from a girl from Baccarat who was 24 and a freelancer who was 25.

Filipino girls are incredibly passionate creatures, way more so than their Thai counterparts.

Kissing a girl is a turn on for most guys but not sure most guys would want to kiss a prostitute that makes a living out of sucking multiple strangers dicks that have cum in her mouth, maybe even moments before one kissed her, but each to their own tastes.

[NapaSlapper]

Thank you for such an amazing post. Thank you!

So, any recommendations for what cities to go for young, cute girls if you're not Korean?

Thanks for the compliment of my guide to Angeles for those that have not visited, it seems it was a hit with many.

Although a very few boast my Angeles girls are all young and good looking, they all stay long time and give excellent service at cheap prices my Angeles guide shows that if one is a westerner and is also a little bit fussy in his girl choice then Angeles might not be the best place to visit for fun, Koreans of course have much better luck with the few cuties that will actually barfine.

The only other larger bar areas I know of in the phills is manila, the girls mostly are a step up from the Angeles girls but here also you have the problem of Koreans, Japanese, Chinese being the most popular choice for the girls also expect to pay double the price, if quality girls is important then maybe the manila higher price and the pay after system is well worth it.

As far as other phills large bar girl areas there really is none, Cebu has a few bars but they are spread out, expensive and not great choice of girls.

Meeting pinays is a matter of how much time a punter has, want point and shoot then Angeles and manila has the bars, have a few weeks or months to spend in the phills then there is much more pretty girls all over the phills that are not pros, the girls working in the malls is a great place to start, bear in mind that non pro pinays take just as much time to get a date and into bed as good girls the world over.

Happy hunting.

[Gorrion]

The best way to hook up is up to individual preferences. Ask five guys and get 7 answers. The big three are online, freelancer or bar.

Thanks for your answer Goferring, you're absolutely right, those three options you mentioned are the ones I've used several times on my trips to Pattaya. I suppose the game will be similar in Angeles City, so I think I'll find women I like and suitable for my budget. Sometimes I'll go with a freelance, other times with ones I find online, and other times with girls from the bar. As for my night in Manila, I guess I'll take a stroll down P. Burgos and choose an option depending on what I see. I'm getting closer to being there! XD.

Regards.

[Expat American]

Also consider AC is a pay-first system, something we routinely tell newbs not to do, as there is no tip and no encouragement for the girl to stay LT; it encourages running. Which is better: 1) Paying half the Burgos amount in AC, with no control over when the girl departs? Or 2) Paying twice the AC amount in Burgos, utilizing the morning tip as control?

Yes. Me too. A number of Cebuanas posted in the PG. The good-old / bad-old days. The mind romanticizes the past, while focusing on the pain of today and ignoring the joys of today. Leading us to say later: "Didn't know how good it was until it was gone". If inflation or other market forces double the current prices a year from now for pinays, will we be pining for p5000 poon?

BKK is looking better?

Ah the good old days perfectly described. I routinely did the Perimeter afternoon ST often with two girls, a LT gogo girl that I had to push out after breakfast, and could often fit in another Santos Street quicky all for about 100 USD. Apart from girls what's else is silly pricing is hotels. Again, in Cebu I stayed at 4 star hotels in Ayala area for 2500 Peso per night in an upgraded room. In AC now even places like Pacific Breeze want $70 USD per night. This is not a now vs then comparison but a now vs now comparison of two places in the same country. AC operates on its own economics, 100 Peso Trikes, 5000 Peso fucks, and 4000 Peso Hotel rooms. And yet people (including myself) keep coming back. Is it just nostalgia or is AC still a fun place? I think it still has its charms if you want a large variety of women, point and fuck convenience and guaranteed BBFS. Otherwise if you have time and want to play the game, Cebu is much better.

As for BKK? Its apples vs. Oranges. Thai women are a very different beast.

[Trillian]

A few words to try to help those that have not visited angeles or have not visited in multiple years.

Thank you for such an amazing post. Thank you!

So, any recommendations for what cities to go for young, cute girls if you're not Korean?

[Goferring]

For the entire pre-covid era, I was able to get many girls to confess that they often were willing to cut their initial tip request amount in half for a later ST. If she was asking a p4000 tip for a barfine, she was usually willing to go for a later afternoon date ST for 2 k or 2500.

One area that bars do excel is sneakouts. Assuming the guy isn't a complete animal during the first encounter, girls readily agree to an afternoon hook up, off the books, before work. In Burgos 10 k quickly becomes 3 k for a very attractive girl. The same option is available in AC.

After work is also an option for those who enjoy entertaining drunk girls, who have already been fucked three times, at 3 am. 🤮.

Perhaps not an option for the overnight warrior but fun for those who are in town longer.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

In July, I will be in Angeles City, but my first night in the Philippines will be spent in Makati near P. Burgos. What do you recommend for me to have company on that first night? Should I hire a freelancer or should I check out the bars in P. Burgos and barfine someone? I'm reading the latest posts and it seems like they're asking for a lot of money for a short-time in the bars. 10 K total for a short-time? Or am I mistaken?

Thanks again for the information and responses.

The best way to hook up is up to individual preferences. Ask five guys and get 7 answers. The big three are online, freelancer or bar. Online is cheaper but takes some work and misrepresentation is rife. The guy need to go find and select freelancers, they can be more hardened but again, they are a cheap option, sometimes very cheap. The bars are expensive but designed for short term visitors:. Some pretty girls, english speaking, low risk and the girl can be seen wearing next to nothing before selection. Don't forget that just because you go to look at one option, it doesn't mean you can't move into another if it doesn't suit you. I've been to Burgos, not seen anyone to my liking and gone home to grab a girl online.

Burgos never has been a cheap option. It's main market is businessmen who are in town for a few days and are prepared to pay for an enjoyable but risk free experience.

My 10 k was LT: 3900 barfine, 5000 tip and a few expensive (lady) drinks.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. Apologies for the thread drift but the same comments apply to AC.

[Gorrion]

Hello, I continue to read this thread every day. Thank you all for the reports and information.

In July, I will be in Angeles City, but my first night in the Philippines will be spent in Makati near P. Burgos. What do you recommend for me to have company on that first night? Should I hire a freelancer or should I check out the bars in P. Burgos and barfine someone? I'm reading the latest posts and it seems like they're asking for a lot of money for a short-time in the bars. 10 K total for a short-time? Or am I mistaken?

Thanks again for the information and responses.

[WestCoast1]

You're correct but didn't include one important point. Burgos tips are substantial. We're not talking a couple of hundred like AC. Often a pretty girl will expect a LT tip more than the original barfine. In your timeline, girls started off happy with 2500 to 3000. Now she will expect double that. That's where the Burgos price increase has been: The gross price has gone from 7 k to nearly 10 k. The concept of the barfine being partly consumable has also gone so you can add lady and regular drinks to that too. Your night is going to be a solid 10+k.

Good points. It bears mentioning that all burgos gogo girls now ask a minimum tip equal to 5000*. Most are agreeable to discount that. The 5 k is just an asking amount. Hotties mentioned to me 6000 when I asked, and one mentioned 7000. Even the fuglies want 5000 tip. However that is a starting point and for most girls its easy to mention 1 k less and she will probably agree quickly. That's since the bars re-opened a year ago. These numbers are p1000 higher than the 2010-2020-ish tip requests.

Pre-covid, 2010-ish to covid start, barfines about p3900. I found the minimum asking amount was 4000 tip, negotiable down 1000 (or sometimes more). Hotties insisting on 6 k tip and not negotiating.

Prior to the barfine increase of 2010-ish. Barfines of 2700, and tip requests were 2500 for fuglies, 3000 for most gals, and 4000 for hotties.

So yes, in most instances, you could simply double the barfine amount and arrive at a rough estimate of the girl's costs. Those consumables started disappearing around 2015, one bar at a time.

For the entire pre-covid era, I was able to get many girls to confess that they often were willing to cut their initial tip request amount in half for a later ST. If she was asking a p4000 tip for a barfine, she was usually willing to go for a later afternoon date ST for 2 k or 2500.

* I went into Lips one Saturday evening, upstairs. A mama led me to a small booth on the side of the (pole) dance area and started shooing several girls out of it for me. I feigned needing to piss and waddled off to the CR, walking the long way around the dance area, slowly, taking in a multitude of girls. Easily 50, and half a dozen stuck out to me as so fugly that I thought: Not even with my beer goggles on! When I returned to my booth the mama was still waiting there for me, and sent a waitress off for my rum / coke, chatting me up for a bit and making sure that I got the drink. The place was jumping. There were several girls in the booth next to mine. The mama grabbed a hottie from the end and stood her up. I thought great, she's going to sit a hottie with me and I should buy her a LD. But no. The mama then grabbed the next girl in the booth, a fuglie, mid-30's and heavier than me, with a face that could sink Chinese war ships, and shoved the fugly in the booth next to me. Then the mama shoved the hottie back into her original booth. F*ck me, do I have RUBE written on my forehead?

The girl was the worst. She had her legs and arms crossed like she was cold. Awful attitude. It was her first nervous night in the bar. The usual hard-luck covid story. Angry at the men who'd effed her over before. I bought the fuglie a drink anyway. I asked her if the girls had talked to her about barfining. "Yes of course". Are you available (I was asking in the academic) to barfine? "Yes". How much tip do you want for a barfine? "5000". Its hard to hear that, as the pretty girl that didn't sit with me probably would have said 6 k. She's not the first fugly that mentioned 5 k to start. Are you willing to accept 4 k tip? "No never". As I was just out perving anyway: Waitress, BILL PLEASE! I went downstairs and perved with a cutie.

Fuglies in Alibi and (the now defunct) Lion's Pride bar also asked for 5 k tips.

One day, a decade or two going forward from now, someone in the Makati thread is going to write: "Effing they raised the Burgos barfines again. 12 k barfine and 15 k tips. And LD prices went up. Remember when the barfines were p3900 and tips were 5 k? We thought we'd died and gone to heaven!" Or something like that.