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  1. #30676

    I / we could be wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Westie, the conspiracy theorist in me says that it's highly unlikely that a girl does not know her own barfine. Maybe the brand new girl but not someone who has been working any length of time. Sounds like mama just wants to keep a close tabs on her girls and who they are going with. No sneakouts allowed. 😁.

    Enjoy. G.
    I believe its exactly that, and more maybe. Few nights later I sat down and a taped girl was passing by. I invited her skinniness to sink a drink with me. I wanted to cut thru the previous mama's story and I told her what the mama had said to me about the multiple barfine prices, which the girl confirmed. "But not like that". Well then, how is it? "For each girl its different". I pointed to a model girl (long evening gown) and asked how much her barfine amount was. "You ask a mama". Any mama? "Yes". But you don't know the amount? "You ask a mama". How much is your barfine amount? "You ask a mama". Oh come on, certainly you know *your own* barfine amount, yes? "You ask a mama. I can call the mama". Jeez. Obfuscation and disingenuous. She did that from training (at the time, last year, might be different now).

    I don't mind the different barfine amounts for different girls. But you will want to be able to learn her barfine price BEFORE you consider asking her to sit for a drink. Being coy with the information might be counter-productive to actually barfining. OTOH, it might be indicative of something entirely different: That bar might not need any barfines in order to succeed. High concentration of rich gents (K's or other), and girls pre-barfined (by the rich) before bar opening, or rich fellas who call the bar up and order up a half dozen or dozen of their prettiest (and send vans for them), might mean they literally don't need any of your / my cash this evening. Recall my previous report of K's throwing so many notes from the balcony during several dance shows, that they had to stop performance between sets to have several male staff literally use brooms / dustpans and cardboard boxes to scoop up all the money (probably split as tips between staff, management, and owner). Every peso spent on drinks for yourself or a girl is just gravy money for them.

    No conspiracy there.

  2. #30675

    Day 19: Pool party

    For my last day in Angeles I decided to spend the afternoon at Scorebirds Pool Party, which happens the third Sunday of every month. It runs from 2 pm-6 pm and costs 500 to enter, which includes a free buffet.

    Kittykat had secured a prime table at the side of the pool so I ordered a drink and enjoyed the show. There were 11 girls participating, mainly from Dollhouse, Atlantis and Lollipop, including a few really pretty ones. Each girl does a catwalk show and customers can throw beads to them. Then the MC will bring each girl to the front of the stage and ask whether anyone would like to buy them a ladydrink. I bought a drink for number 3, a skinny girl with blond highlights in her hair from Atlantis but conversation wasn't flowing. Kittykat bought a drink for number 6, an older girl with arguably the best body on show. The eventual winner of the contest, number 4, was sat nearby. She kept smiling over to me so I offered a drink but she shook her head as she already had one.

    A dance act performed an energetic routine with lots of twerking, three older women provided the music and then the girls came back out for another parade, to collect more beads. It was a pleasant way to spend the afternoon although they dragged it out far too long. By the time the winner was announced most people had left.

    Later in the afternoon I went to SM Mall to do a few chores. Firstly I got the timetable for the buses that depart from outside SM Mall and go directly to Nino Aquino Airport in Manila. They depart every hour and the cost is 380 pesos. I also bought a new contract lens holder as room service had accidentally thrown mine out with the rubbish.

    I met Kittykat at 7 pm at 69 Rock Bar, located at the top of a seven storey building on Narciso Avenue. A band were playing rock covers and they were serving a very tasty looking Irish stew for St Patrick's Day. For the first time on this trip it began raining. It wasn't just rain, it lashed it down for an hour, which meant it was 8. 30 pm when I stepped on to Fields Avenue. I said farewell to Kittykat who is heading back to the States tomorrow. I'd enjoyed his company during my time in Angeles.

    With a long travel day myself tomorrow back to Pattaya, my goal was to barfine a girl as soon as possible. Naturally it didn't go to plan.

    I started in Viking where there were 40 girls crowded on the stage including some really nice ones. This is undoubtedly one of my favourite bars in Angeles. I scanned around for Margi, who I bought a drink for several days ago, but she was with another customer. She was looking as radiant as ever. The customer bought her three drinks in the time it took me to drain one beer so his intentions were clear.

    Viking has lots of other nice girls and I considered refocusing my attention, but I decided to leave as it would give me the option of returning later on the slim chance Margi was still there, and if not I could pick another girl.

    Baccara is an intimate venue and there were 18 girls on stage, generally a bit older. It was noticeable how the bar lacked atmosphere. The girls were rooted to the spot, there was no dancing and some of them looked bored with their arms folded. I remember when this bar was called Cambodia and it had a reputation of being one of the party bars. Not any more.

    This part of the street used to have several bars with the same Egyptian theme. I think one of the popular bars was called Blue Nile, which had a stage that rose up and down. I barfined a dancer from here that gave me some of the best sex I've ever had. There was another bar in which you had to take a lift up to the 3rd or 4th floor which had a double decker stage and let's not forget Club Asia which was usually stocked with cuties. Although I think Angeles has bounced back impressively after the pandemic, I think the bottom end of the street, towards McDonald's, is still sleepy.

    I went to Avalon to see if the black tape girl I barfined was there but the mamasan said she 'wasn't working today', which probably meant she was currently being nailed by a guy twice her size. The dance act is superb in this bar, easier better than XS. Their routines are always really fun, creative and perfectly choreographed and there are some lovely girls too. One of them had dark skin and braces on her teeth, another had fair hair and Western facial features. I asked the mamasan if these dancers can be barfined and she told me yes. I considered asking one of my two favourites over for a drink but the problem is they look like they enjoy dancing too much to barfine!

    I trawled up and down the street looking for my next bar. Suddenly it occurred to me that procuring the services of a freelancer would be perfect tonight, as it would mean I could fuck her and send her on her way to give me chance to pack. But there are definitely slimmer pickings when it comes to streetwalkers these days.

    Club 123 had 15 girls standing on the long thin stage and there were definitely a few cuties. The distinctive one I liked on my previous visit was there but when I looked at her she did that thing the girls sometimes do and pointed to her friend. To me that shows lack of interest. Another pretty girl was smiling at me whenever I looked in her direction, so I invited her to sit with me for a drink. She was a nice girl to talk to.

    Then a familiar figure walked in. It was the customer who had been plying Margi with ladydrinks at Viking! She wasn't with him but I couldn't imagine he'd have bought her so many drinks without wanting to barfine her. I assumed she must have had a reason she couldn't go with him, perhaps it was her time of month.

    It gave me a dilemma. I could try to barfine the girl I was sat next to, or I could return to Viking and try to see Margi. But I decided a bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush and barfined the Club 123 girl. It cost 4500 and after she got changed we walked the short distance back to my hotel.

    The sex however was a disappointment. I like to finger the girl to get her ready but this girl refused. She literally grabbed my hand and pulled it away. I tried to give her oral but she didn't like it. We eventually tried to have sex but she was extraordinarily tight and with no natural lubrication, it was difficult. I got about halfway in but when I tried to push in all the way she'd do defensive manoeuvres like closing her legs. It was clear she was very inexperienced and was finding the whole ordeal painful. So after a couple of minutes I rolled off, took my condom off and let her blow me instead.

    A disappointing fuck to end my time in Angeles but it's been another great week and I've met some really pretty girls.

    This diary concludes on the Pattaya thread.

  3. #30674
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    ...Nowadays it's one-price-fits-all, meaning you have to pay say 5000 for every girl, ranging from the black tape supermodels to the older, average girls. As a result it's hard to believe the vast majority of these girls ever get barfined....
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    ...The system was so confusing (and I wasn't drunk) that even the mama told me not to bother asking a girl (or waitress) how much her barfine amount was. "Just you ask for a mama...
    Lance,

    This can be beneficial to the guys as well. Girls who have not met quota are typically fined with docked pay, loss of dance fees, bonuses etc etc. Yet their board, keep, makeup etc etc etc fees are still charged regardless. In Sabang, it wasn't unusual in low season to find affected girls, desperate for a barfine, offering extra services, longer stays, even commission free to make quota.

    Unkind mongers would point out that these were often the girls too ugly to secure customers anyway. However, it was often also the cuties who were simply too reserved or shy to be busy.

    AC local guys can confirm if this is something to watch for on Walking Street. I'm sure the girls have quotas but I don't know of the ramifications.

    Westie, the conspiracy theorist in me says that it's highly unlikely that a girl does not know her own barfine. Maybe the brand new girl but not someone who has been working any length of time. Sounds like mama just wants to keep a close tabs on her girls and who they are going with. No sneakouts allowed. 😁.

    Enjoy. G.

  4. #30673
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    Some of the bars do have multi-tiered barfines. Lollipop had black bikinis at 5000, and other colors are 4000; has that changed? The mama in XS told me they had 3 k, 4 k, 5 k, and 6 k girls for the different groups (black tape, models, and so on). The system was so confusing (and I wasn't drunk) that even the mama told me not to bother asking a girl (or waitress) how much her barfine amount was. "Just you ask for a mama. We will look it in our books and inform you". I think Casino bar had either 3500/4500, or else 4000/5000 girls (lower price was ST, higher price was LT).
    I went to both those bars but didn't barfine from either, so I'm sure you're right. I remember all bars used to have the same system with a white or green badge depending on 1700 or 3000. Made life so much easier for the customer.

  5. #30672
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    I have a question which has been bugging me. Why don't bars in Angeles have the two-tier barfines any more? I remember when I first visited the pretty girls would be 3000 pesos in all bars and the less pretty girls were 1700. Of course Filipino's standard of beauty is very different to ours so it often meant lovely girls could be found for 1700. Nowadays it's one-price-fits-all, meaning you have to pay say 5000 for every girl, ranging from the black tape supermodels to the older, average girls. As a result it's hard to believe the vast majority of these girls ever get barfined. Surely reintroducing the two-tier system will be good for customers and also the girls too?
    Some of the bars do have multi-tiered barfines. Lollipop had black bikinis at 5000, and other colors are 4000; has that changed? The mama in XS told me they had 3 k, 4 k, 5 k, and 6 k girls for the different groups (black tape, models, and so on). The system was so confusing (and I wasn't drunk) that even the mama told me not to bother asking a girl (or waitress) how much her barfine amount was. "Just you ask for a mama. We will look it in our books and inform you". I think Casino bar had either 3500/4500, or else 4000/5000 girls (lower price was ST, higher price was LT).

  6. #30671

    Day 18: Three sour-faced Koreans

    I had a lazy afternoon and met Kittykat in Margarita Station at 6. 30 pm. It's located a 15 minute walk away from its old location, which still stands derelict and boarded up. The new venue is a very big, spacious bar and restaurant with an extensive menu.

    There was a large chap on the next table eating dinner with friends. Last time I'd seen him he had his trousers around his ankles at the the blowjob bar a few days ago.

    Kittykat and I took a Grab cab back towards Walking Street after we had eaten but it was Saturday night and the traffic was chaos. Eventually we arrived at Insomnia, which had eight young girls dancing. My favourite was a tall skinny girl with braces on her teeth. After a while the stage cleared and the Insomnia Babes did a dance routine, entering the stage via a fireman's pole. About ten years ago I barfined a girl from this bar and she let me slide down the pole before we went back to our hotel.

    I've noticed there is a biker gang presence at a lot of these Perimeter Bars. They must get sweaty under those leathers.

    Underneath the Walking Street sign I saw a pretty freelancer I fucked last year. She recognised me and was all smiles. She must have forgotten that she turned up at my hotel unannounced the next day wanting a repeat and when I said no she told me to fuck off, so I blocked her.

    QBar had eight girls dancing when we arrived, including a few well endowed ones who were topless except for black tape covering their nipples. Gradually the number of girls increased to about 20. I thought the standard was average although I did see a few who tempted me to invite them down for a lady-drink, including a very dark-skinned girl who probably had a black American marine father she's never met. The music was country and western which gave the girls little to dance to. The bar lacked atmosphere.

    I have a question which has been bugging me. Why don't bars in Angeles have the two-tier barfines any more? I remember when I first visited the pretty girls would be 3000 pesos in all bars and the less pretty girls were 1700. Of course Filipino's standard of beauty is very different to ours so it often meant lovely girls could be found for 1700. Nowadays it's one-price-fits-all, meaning you have to pay say 5000 for every girl, ranging from the black tape supermodels to the older, average girls. As a result it's hard to believe the vast majority of these girls ever get barfined. Surely reintroducing the two-tier system will be good for customers and also the girls too?

    The gorgeous girl I barfined from Genesis has been asking me via Messenger when I will return, so I decided to pop in and buy her a drink. The stage was crowded with 30 girls and I saw her stood in the middle, looking sublime. I waved to her but she didn't notice, so the girl next to her nudged her and pointed to me. Her face lit up and she raced off stage to sit next to me. This girl is dynamite. She's a beautiful girl, speaks great English and it turns out is very picky.

    She pointed to a blond white man with tattoos and explained that he's the owner of three big hotels and tried to barfine her tonight but she refused because he was too drunk. It was the fourth time he's tried to barfine her and each time she has refused for the same reason. She told me about an elderly Korean man who had tried to barfine her but she said no because he treated her with little respect. As if to emphasis her point, he spread 10,000 pesos on the table in an attempt to impress her but she refused a second time. He then threatened to call the mamasan over, assuming an older member of staff could iron things out. 'Go ahead' my girl said, 'I don't like you so I will never go with you'. This girl has attitude! She knows her worth and won't take bullshit from customers. She's a sweetheart too. She pointed out a cheerful elderly Japanese man who was handing out 20 baht notes to lots of girls. When he gave her some notes she passed them to one of the older waitresses to have instead. She told me she makes a lot of money from customers, so shares tips with less popular girls.

    Although she seems very selective, she loves me. Three middle-aged Koreans sat down just in front of us and kept rubber-necking, staring straight at her. Without returning their glances she whispered to me 'some Korean men so arrogant, they think I will leave you and sit with them' before holding my hand. I love this girl more and more!

    Oddly, when my girl skipped off to pick up her weekly salary, all three of the Koreans now stared at me. At first I thought they might be checking out how much beer I had left in my bottle, but they kept staring. It wasn't a friendly stare, it was a 'how dare you stand in my way' stare. When my girl returned I gave her the biggest exaggerated hug I could just to piss them off, then I barfined her right in front of their faces. Normally I like to barfine different girls but this girl is special.

    She got changed and reappeared wearing an white oversized Nike top that barely covered the schoolgirl skirt she was wearing. I enjoyed leading her out of the bar hand-in-hand and she told me that the three Korean men had indeed sneakily requested (via a waitress) she go sit with them despite the fact she had a ladydrink with me. It is an example of the arrogant, underhand way some of these guys conduct their business but thankfully my girl ignored their approach. Unlucky chaps.

    We went for a quick game of pool before returning to my hotel, where she told me she has worked as a model. I got a great video of her doing her catwalk strut with one of my books balanced on her head.

    The sex was even better second time around, with lots of positions and lots of kissing. She looked phenomenal when she was riding me and not for the first time I had to pinch myself at how lucky I am to be in Angeles, a candy store of pretty girls.

  7. #30670
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    Not really. We have been saying it since the re-opening back in late 2022. Lots of things changed with covid. Gogo bar prices are 4-5 k, more LD-only ladies (who are not necessarily honest about that until you've purchased her several drinks and you mention barfining her), ST is the new LT in some bars, and some girls are condom-only (some girls are not honest about this until you have her in your residence, naked). This is no longer a change, given its been in place for more than a year now.
    Adapt, stay home or find a new playground. I choose option 3. I have been back a couple of times post covid but never had any girl ask for a condom. Prices were higher but Perimeter was still about 3500 for a day time LT (2 pm to 10 pm or so). Still had a decent time but since then found much better places to take my time and money. Sad, cause I loved that little shit hole for a lot of years and had some of my best mongering there between 2007 and 2012. Somethings are better left in my memories. And my hard drive.

  8. #30669

    Adapt, or stay home.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Wow, AC girls requesting condoms now? Unspoken expected BBFS was probably the last reason to even consider going there. Also 5000 P short time in a Perimeter bar? No long time bar fines available? I'm glad Sir Lancelot is having a good time but I read this stuff and just shake my head. Pattaya condoms are hit or miss but I've been about 75% successful with BBFS there. But its by no means a sure bet like AC always was. It seems to be going from bad to worse.
    Not really. We have been saying it since the re-opening back in late 2022. Lots of things changed with covid. Gogo bar prices are 4-5 k, more LD-only ladies (who are not necessarily honest about that until you've purchased her several drinks and you mention barfining her), ST is the new LT in some bars, and some girls are condom-only (some girls are not honest about this until you have her in your residence, naked). This is no longer a change, given its been in place for more than a year now.

  9. #30668

    Day 17: Black tape girl

    I got chatting with an interesting guy at breakfast, who bought a motorbike in Davao after his relationship broke down with a Filipina and has since rode through Philippines, exploring the country. He's now in Angeles for a month.

    I fancied an afternoon meet but Tinder was unusually sleepy. Then I had an idea. The Tinder profile who did the bait and switch on me was using a cute slim girl with her hair in bunches as their profile pic. I messaged them and said I was interested in meeting the girl from the pic but if any other knocked on my door I would send them away.

    'Yes she is avaliable' said the mamasan, before quoting 4000 pesos ('she is 22, young and pretty' I pointed out that's what I paid for two girls and she accepted 2000.

    At just before 4 pm there was a knock on my door and I opened with trepidation. Thankfully it was the girl in the picture, perhaps a couple of years older, but still with the same cuteness and sparkle in her eye.

    I had a very pleasurable hour in her company. She insisted we shower together, then deepthroated me skilfully on the bed. She got about two-thirds in before gagging, before crawling across me to change the angle and took my whole dick in her mouth. I could feel the back of her throat. The sex was pretty frantic stuff. I fucked her stood up at the end of the bed, slapping in to her arse as hard I could.

    My hotel, The Penthouse, has a very nice rooftop pool and restaurant area. I ordered some pork adobo and swam for 25 minutes before it got served. Apart from Walking between bars, lifting bottles of beer to my mouth and fucking girls, it's the only exercise I've had on this trip.

    I met Kittykat at Kokomoz at 7 pm. I'm burning through money and needed to withdraw some more at an ATM. I like to think I'm a fairly observant person but in umpteen trips to Angeles I didn't notice Kokomoz has an ATM! I withdrew 10,000 which will last me another day.

    We started our bar-crawl on Real Street, which used to be buzzing, largely thanks to bars like Crystal Palace and Tropix, but was virtually lifeless a year ago as Angeles looked to bounce back after covid. Thankfully the street is showing signs of life again.

    Meiko's has a square stage in the middle of the bar, on which 12 nice girls were dancing in black fishnets. There were plenty of customers, the music was good and the girls were smiling and having a good time, signs of a well managed bar. I saw a few girls I was tempted to invite down for a drink but the night was young.

    In contrast Body Shop was sleepy, with ten average girls, the majority of whom stood with their arms folded. A silver-haired fox to my left was inviting curvier girls down from the stage and giving them 100 pesos each to suck their tits.

    It was 8. 30 pm when we stepped inside Las Vegas, which proved to be one of my favourite bars so far. There is a big square stage in the middle of the bar, on which 25 girls were dancing. Every 10 minutes they all parade around the bar a few times, ensuring customers get a great view of all of the girls. There were some honeys for sure. I spotted two I wanted to buy a drink for, a distinctive looking girl with shorter hair and a very pretty blond, but both got summoned to the side of stern-faced Koreans before I had chance to act.

    Virtually all customers here are Korean which means the tedious spectacle of 20 baht rain showers. A chubby guy who looked like Kim Jong Un did four of them before I got halfway down my bottle of beer! Of course that has an impact on all of the other customers too because if for example I was to call a girl down to sit with me, she'd probably resent me for depriving her of the chance to stuff a fistful of 20's in her bra!

    The DJ in here does a great job of whipping up the atmosphere but his mic is far too loud, making conversation very difficult, even to someone sat next to you. Kittykat bought a drink for a dark-skinned spinner as I watched an impressive street dance act on stage in Chicago Bulls tops.

    I have a theory about loud music. I think in popular Korean bars, they crank up the volume high to disguise the language barrier. The girls just have to sit there and look pretty instead of engaging in conversation.

    We walked back on to Fields Avenue and stepped in to Avalon at 9. 20 pm. There was a black tape show on and I acted quickly when I saw a very pretty girl with a slender figure and curly hair. She was only 19 and although she spoke limited English was great fun with a manic laugh. She was very affectionate too, holding my hand, cuddling up to me and even lap-dancing for me. I couldn't resist. The barfine was 5000.

    The bar had plenty of other nice girls and was packed with barely a free seat in sight. They had a really impressive show with successive groups of dancers performing dance routines in sexy outfits. XS has the reputation for the best shows in town but I think Avalon's is far superior. The dance girls are prettier and the dances far sexier.

    I love it when you barfine a girl and they go off to get changed. Yesterday the girl from Atlantis got changed in to a elegant summer dress, tonight in contrast my Avalon girl came back wearing a Nike crop-top, tracksuit bottoms and trainers, like she was about to go to the gym. She looked sexy although I was disappointed she'd taken her black tape off!

    It was still early so I asked her if she'd like to pick another bar. She chose Monsoon, a very intimate bar in which customers sit on a single row of seats surrounding a narrow stage, meaning you're very close to the girls. There were 20 on stage, all young.

    'Can you buy drink for her?' my black tape girl asked, pointing at a tall, slender girl on stage.

    I assumed the two of them must have been friends but no, my girl just fancied a chat with a sexy girl! I was sandwiched between the two of them, having a great time, so didn't mind at all. It was fun hearing their animated discussions in Tagalog about their respective bars, mamasans and commissions. The tall girl from Monsoon told me she worked briefly as a black tape girl at Avalon but hardly ever got barfined, so returned to Monsoon where she has regular customers.

    My Avalon girl and I walked the short distance back to my hotel and it was clear she had never seen a nice hotel room before. She said wow when she walked in, took a selfie of herself on front of the free-standing bath and then, amusingly, ran to the bed and somersaulted on to it. She was as mad as a box of frogs and I liked her all the more for it.

    He excitement soon turned to nervousness, which she eventually explained to me was because I was her first ever customer. I didn't rush her and watched as she played games on her phone and scrolled through videos on social media. I drifted off to sleep and she woke me at 5 am. She was undoubtedly the most timid and shy girl I've ever fucked. She didn't know what to do and found certain (well, most) positions painful. When I was on top I took her arms and in one movement lay back to pull her up on top. She wiggled her hips for five seconds before deciding it was too painful! We tried other positions and she soon got in to her work. I couldn't resist getting her to sit on my face to finish. At first she was unsure but by the end was grinding her pussy on to me as she gripped the headboard.

    She was back to her excited bubbly self afterwards. 'I'm sorry if I disappoint you' she said 'my first barfine I nervous'. I hugged her and told her don't be silly, she'd been perfect. How can you be disappointed fucking a 19 year old sweetheart like her bareback?

    There's a never-ending debate on this page about the availability of pretty girls in Angeles, usually provoked by Napa's campaign to discourage people from visiting, but it's utter nonsense. I've been here for four days and have barfined some spectacular girls so far.

  10. #30667
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    I was in Pattaya for the first nine days, used a condom with every girl there. Same for Manila. Angeles is the only place I do bareback but the first girl requested I use a condom and I've noticed Tinder meets usually request protection too.
    Wow, AC girls requesting condoms now? Unspoken expected BBFS was probably the last reason to even consider going there. Also 5000 P short time in a Perimeter bar? No long time bar fines available? I'm glad Sir Lancelot is having a good time but I read this stuff and just shake my head. Pattaya condoms are hit or miss but I've been about 75% successful with BBFS there. But its by no means a sure bet like AC always was. It seems to be going from bad to worse.

  11. #30666
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    I was in Pattaya for the first nine days, used a condom with every girl there. Same for Manila. Angeles is the only place I do bareback but the first girl requested I use a condom and I've noticed Tinder meets usually request protection too.
    This is pretty refreshing to me. I got the impression that everyone here had BBFS all the time, living on the edge LOL.

  12. #30665
    Quote Originally Posted by Docwiltro  [View Original Post]
    There is a Rabbit Bus Terminal in Avenida on Rizal just north of Recto which is close to Malate. I take the 11 am AC bus which doesn't stop at Dau coming into AC, instead going downtown on MacArthur. The driver will drop passengers at McDo on Fields if you ask the conductor to do so.
    Thanks Doc,

    This is really handy to know. All the 'official' websites for bus and transport companies in The Philippines have always been frustrating or out of date. If you ask them, a local, or even your girl what time a bus leaves, you'll get three different answers. Over time I've just learnt to find out exactly where to get on your bus and the rest will take care of itself.

  13. #30664
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonPlayer  [View Original Post]
    If I may ask. What is your logic or rationale for using condoms in Pattaya and Manila but going bareback in Angeles? I think a case could be made for doing just the opposite, LOL.
    No logic at all really. Just the way I feel most comfortable.

  14. #30663
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    I was in Pattaya for the first nine days, used a condom with every girl there. Same for Manila. Angeles is the only place I do bareback but the first girl requested I use a condom and I've noticed Tinder meets usually request protection too.
    If I may ask. What is your logic or rationale for using condoms in Pattaya and Manila but going bareback in Angeles? I think a case could be made for doing just the opposite, LOL.

  15. #30662

    Day 16: Perimeter Road

    I had breakfast at Kokomoz. A pretty decent full English breakfast (minus sausage) costs 390 pesos, although a cup of tea costs extra. I've felt dehydrated over recent days so I also ordered a large jar of mango juice (150 pesos) which I slowly drank while writing my diary.

    I always get a seat at the front, overlooking the street, which is great for people-watching but on the downside means you get pestered by hawkers trying to sell viagra, T-shirts and phones ('hey boss' In all my years visiting I don't think I've ever seen one make a sale until today. An American customer bought a blowpipe for 600 pesos and showed considerable interest in a stun-gun too. No girl will be leaving his room early!

    I had a bar-crawl along Perimeter Road planned for this afternoon with Kittykat. I met him at his hotel, Scorebirds. His room is decent but the big selling point of this hotel is its large pool. Every month it hosts pool party and this month's happens to be on Sunday. He has booked a prime table and asked me to join him, which I'm looking forward to.

    We took a Grab taxi up along Don Juico Avenue, also knows as Perimeter Road, to our first bar of the afternoon, Night Moves. It was 3 pm when we entered and there were two older girls shuffling on stage. The place was busy with expats and there were a few other girls with customers, including a reasonably nice one sat nearby.

    Next door is Thunderbirds. There were four average girls on stage but they were a lot of fun. One of them took her phone out to take a selfie of the four of them, so I offered to take the pic. I couldn't resist afterwards jumping on stage and taking a selfie of the five of us, much to their amusement. I enjoy bars like this where you can have a bit of banter with the girls. I felt they deserved a tip but wanted to make them work for it, so I placed four 50 peso notes on the counter in front of the stage which I only allowed them to have when they'd successfully replicated my trademark towel dance.

    We walked in to Candy Bar at 3. 50 pm. There were four girls dancing and a definite step up in quality. There was a short girl with a nice curvy figure wearing a blue sparkly dress and a tall, skinny girl in denim shorts. Again the place was busy with expats and there's a table reserved in the corner for some local biker group.

    Very close is Black Satin. As soon as I walked in I knew this was my kind of bar. Ten girls were on stage but there were probably 20 more dotted around the bar, including a few young pretty ones. When the second dance shift took to the stage I immediately saw a girl I liked. She looked very fresh-faced and wore braces on her teeth. I invited her to sit with me for a drink and she told me she was 19. She was a pretty little thing so I was interested in paying the barfine.

    As it was a Perimeter Road bar I expected a reduced price but the barfine is 4500 short-time or 5500 long-time! I was shocked that the long-time price is higher than the big bars on Fields Avenue. My plan this afternoon was to grab a girl from Perimeter Road for an afternoon quickie, then head out on to Fields Avenue later. I really liked this girl but 4500 is too much. Kittykat had bought a drink for a pretty blonde but negotiations stalled when she revealed she didn't do bareback. We paid our chits and left.

    'Okay I want to take you to one more bar' Kittykat said when we stepped outside in to the heat, 'If only for shits and giggles'.

    CNBC is a very intimate venue in more ways than one. It's very small inside and immediately I was pounced upon by two average girls who both started rubbing my cock. The deal here is that you can take girls to the back room to give you a blowjob or even full sex, in full view of other customers. It's basically a blowjob bar. The prettier of the two girls caressing my dick said the price was 2200 pesos per girl for a two girl blowjob but she immediately came down to a 'special price' of 1800 per girl. I must admit, I was tempted, not least because I had a raging hard-on in my pants, but I resisted. There were eight girls in the bar, mainly cougars and chubbier younger girls. Not my cup of tea but I'm sure others could have a lot of fun in a place like this.

    Overall I enjoyed my foray on to Perimeter Road. I visited five bars, all pretty much next door to each other and they were nice chilled places to have a beer. There are others in the same block too, with names like Garfield, Grey Fox and Showtime. Black Satin was the standout for quality of girls, Candy Bar probably second best and CNBC a good option if you need to release some pent-up sexual frustration.

    We took a Grab back to Fields and my intention had been to go back to my hotel and relax for a bit, but the time was already 6 pm so I decided there was no point.

    Kittykat was keen to see if his favourite girl was in Lollipop but she wasn't there. The stunning curly haired girl I saw on my previous visit was on stage, looking better than ever. When I pointed her out to Kittykat he informed me that she was a cherry girl. He knew this because he'd barfined her sister, a blond who was also on stage. Quick as a flash Kittykat called both girls down from the stage and the blond sat next to him, the cherry girl next to me. She was an absolute stunner, with a beautiful smile, braces on her teeth and giggly personality.

    'You know I'm cherry girl, right?' she asked after five minutes of conversation.

    These girls can be barfined but won't have sex unless a premium is paid. The going rate for deflowering a virgin on Fields Avenue? 50,000 to 200,000 pesos!

    I really enjoyed chatting with this girl but of course a barfine was out of the question. We did get chatting about food though and she proudly declared she's a good cook, before adding she'll cook for me some time.

    Kittykat wanted to go to Dollhouse to try to barfine the girl I took last night, based on my glowing reports. I wished him good luck and went for a quick burger at McDonald's. As I was chomping away, I decided my gameplan tonight was simple. Visit a couple of bars and try to barfine my favourite girl from Viking.

    It ended up being even simpler than that, I barfined a girl at the next bar I went to.

    Maybe 15 years ago Atlantis was the top dog on Fields Avenue, with the stage crowded with 50 girls and plenty of honeys to be seen. Since then it's been in decline and was a shadow of its former self when I visited a year ago. Nevertheless, I wanted to visit for old time sake as I've bagged a few beauties from here in the past. It was 7. 25 pm when I walked in and I was met with the encouraging sight of 25 girls on stage and another 20 watching from the balcony above. There were a lot of average lookers but a few beauties too. My favourite had a Chinese look about her, which is ironic as ten years ago I barfined one of my favourite girls from here, a big-boobed cutie I nicknamed China Doll.

    I bought her a ladydrink and she was enjoyable to talk to. She told me that she was 23 and her father was indeed Chinese, which explains her exotic looks. She told me I was her first ever English customer and was surprised I picked her as usually we go for darker skinned girls. Truth is, I've fucked a lot of classical dark-skinned Thai and Filipino girls on this trip so far and fancied something a bit different.

    The barfine was 5000 and it was 8. 15 pm when we stepped outside, hand in hand. Earlier she told me that she'd never played pool so we had a game of doubles against another couple at Rob's Gastropub on A Santos Street. I think it's fair to say she was a beginner. She horribly miscued her first three shots but after a bit of coaching managed to successfully hit a few balls. Somehow we managed to get down to a black ball decider and it was her turn. I think it's fair to say the odds of her pulling off the long black in to the corner were negligible but somehow she made a decent contact with the cue ball, hit the 8 ball and I'm sure time stopped as it rolled towards the corner, hesitated over the pocket, before falling in. High five!

    A covers band started playing at 10, who did requests. I asked her what her favourite song was and expected her to say some poppy Tagalog song but she surprised me by saying 'Wonderful Tonight' by Eric Clapton. The band played her request and she looked so happy I felt a surge of emotion myself. We did a little slow dance salsa number.

    One of the great things about bar-fining early is you can have a lot of fun with girl before you even consider going back to your room.

    The sex was great. She was really shy and her pussy was incredibly tight but eventually I slid in and we had very slow gentle sex with lots of kissing. I lay on my back and invited her to ride me. 'Noooo, painful' she said but then gave it a go, lowering herself on with a grimace. I pulled her to lie on top of me and gently eased in and out of her. She mmmmd and then began getting in to the slow rhythm, grinding her hips on mine. 'I'm going to cum' she announced after a while, rocking her hips more urgently until her body tightened and she groaned lots of frantic squeaky groans. We fucked in lots more positions before I asked her what she'd like to do. In contrast to earlier she declared 'me on top!' with a smile, a new cowboy convert.

    The only negative was she asked to leave after we'd finished, telling me she couldn't sleep in hotel beds. I've bar-fined three girls from the bars so far in Angeles and haven't had a proper long-time yet. The Genesis girl stayed for four hours (to be fair, she informed me she couldn't stay long-time in the bar), the Dollhouse girl left at 5 am and this girl left after five hours.

    All three meets definitely weren't long-time in my book but in fairness, neither were they short-time. Perhaps medium-time is the new norm?

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