Angeles City

[NapaSlapper]

I'd agree but add that the mongering in LOS generally and Patts specifically is such an industrial machine that GFE is a rarity, esp to the extent found in PI.

Of course, for the two week warrior, looking to pump and run as many times as possible, then the reverse would be true and Pattaya would be ideal.

The only other thing that springs to mind for the PI is the ability to find attractive but still 100% natural bodies and faces.

Enjoy. G.

Am in tbailand at the moment on a 5 day business trip, many many friends tbat are married / dating or got mistresses that give as much GFE as any other cou try the world over.

Many, many friends ghat live in thailand that are into the p4 p scene with multiple guys taking tha bari girls for dinner, movies, clubbing, multiple day trips to tne islands or travel abroad to nearby destinations, as usual all asian pros are willing to play the girlfriend role for 1 or multiple days as required, its definately not just an angeles thing but happens all over.

As far as 100% natural pinay bodies / faces many would say that many pinay pros could do with being put on a strict diet, getting to the gym to lose a few lbs, as for faces well many many could do with a good plastic surgeon for some help so natural might not be a plus.

Many many thailand friends woukd visit me in the pi years gone by and enjoy some pinay flesh, now a day none of them visit due to being much more happy with their mongering in thailand than the pi.

[Don Malo]

It is definitely not a given and if BBFS is a requirement you should work it out in the bar before paying a barfine. The barfine only includes the bar so you pay the girl separately after sex. If you don't get an agreement upfront I would rate your chances at 60%. Unless you want to negotiate and pay more which I seldom do, it's much better to get an agreement upfront.

Sex is only sex if it is bareback. No bareback, no party. In Manila I thought one girl ask me for condom, I was shocked by her question. NEXT.

What means CIP? Could be fake sex more common in Phillippines for our next years?

[D Cups]

I'd agree but add that the mongering in LOS generally and Patts specifically is such an industrial machine that GFE is a rarity, esp to the extent found in PI.

Of course, for the two week warrior, looking to pump and run as many times as possible, then the reverse would be true and Pattaya would be ideal.

The only other thing that springs to mind for the PI is the ability to find attractive but still 100% natural bodies and faces.

Enjoy. G.

Yes and Patts has bigger boobs for us boob addicts. But I still prefer PI girls for the GFE / BBFS. Cheers.

[Goferring]

I'm currently in Pattaya. The only thing AC has a lock on is near universal BBFS and CIP.

I'd agree but add that the mongering in LOS generally and Patts specifically is such an industrial machine that GFE is a rarity, esp to the extent found in PI.

Of course, for the two week warrior, looking to pump and run as many times as possible, then the reverse would be true and Pattaya would be ideal.

The only other thing that springs to mind for the PI is the ability to find attractive but still 100% natural bodies and faces.

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

Mongers, thanks for your actual experience reports. To each their own. Some prefer BBFS with CIP.

[Volterra]

So would I go back to Angeles City? Maybe but probably not. If I want cheap sex, it is much easier to go to Tijuana and get a room at cascada for the night and pull girls from Hong Kong all night. Plus, I find latinas to be much more attractive than Filipinas. Flying to the other side of the world does not offer enough value to justify that extremely long flight and the girls just are not that hot in my opinion. If I was Korean or Chinese guy and had an ugly Korean or Chinese wife, it would make sense to fly to Manila for some filthy sex with these bar girls. For an American to fly to the Philippines these days is just not worth it. The flight is brutal, Angles City is a shithole, and the girls are not that hot.

Thanks for great report. Its funny how much our mongering perspectives vary. You obviously don't have yellow fever like most of us who fuck across asia. And not sure how many Korean / Chinese guys have ugly wives. ID happily bang their wives while theyre off fucking around.

Ill look over to the Saigon board to see what your impressions are there. As hot as Viets are, HCMC seems less than ideal for mongering.

[WestCoast1]

It is definitely not a given and if BBFS is a requirement you should work it out in the bar before paying a barfine. The barfine only includes the bar so you pay the girl separately after sex. If you don't get an agreement upfront I would rate your chances at 60%. Unless you want to negotiate and pay more which I seldom do, it's much better to get an agreement upfront.

On point. Muchos gracias señor.

[Houston Player]

For you Thai fells, is BBFS a given in Patts? It it something you should work out in the bar with the girl before a BF?

It is definitely not a given and if BBFS is a requirement you should work it out in the bar before paying a barfine. The barfine only includes the bar so you pay the girl separately after sex. If you don't get an agreement upfront I would rate your chances at 60%. Unless you want to negotiate and pay more which I seldom do, it's much better to get an agreement upfront.

[NapaSlapper]

For you Thai fells, is BBFS a given in Patts? It it something you should work out in the bar with the girl before a BF?

I think in truth westy bare back is available in both destinations with certain girls but not all, I have many friends in both angeles and Bangkok / pattaya that report its available but getting harder by the day.

Yes of course asking 1st would be the way to go and with a thai girl and the pay after system then more likely to fulfill her duties and stick to what was agreed in order to get paid, angeles pinays not so much so because the full amount of money has already been paid to the bar before leaving so very little incentive to fulfill ones duties or promises should the pinay girl not wish to, of course that includes blow jobs, going down on her, multiple positions allowed, agreed time etc.

[WestCoast1]

I'm currently in Pattaya. The only thing AC has a lock on is near universal BBFS and CIP. It's getting a little tougher every year in Pattaya to manage that. I think some of the AC hardcore purists like that Furious George guy are all about the BBFS and can deal with the Koreans. If that's your situation, makes sense. Personally I could never stay in AC for more than a few days without wanting to get the hell out of there.

For you Thai fells, is BBFS a given in Patts? It it something you should work out in the bar with the girl before a BF?

[RakSopheni]

Don't have a problem with guys that visit angeles and enjoy it but to say angeles can compare to thailand in any way shape or form is a massive stretch of the immagination IMHO.

I'm currently in Pattaya. The only thing AC has a lock on is near universal BBFS and CIP. It's getting a little tougher every year in Pattaya to manage that. I think some of the AC hardcore purists like that Furious George guy are all about the BBFS and can deal with the Koreans. If that's your situation, makes sense. Personally I could never stay in AC for more than a few days without wanting to get the hell out of there.

[NapaSlapper]

I'm picky. A lot of the pretty Thai girls went to the province during the pandemic. I see more pretty available ladies in AC than Pattaya currently.

Yes many girls from both places left for their home province during the pandemic but many also returned after the pandemic.

Would totally disagree with your claims that angeles has better looking, slim girls than thailand, in fact I would go as far as to say angeles can not be considered in the same league as thailand in most things, including, girl quality, infustructure, medical care, weather, food, personal safety, hotel costs, general cleanliness and thailand does not have a pay all barfine money before system that encourages many runners or non performers in angeles as reported by most, thailand also does not have mostly pretend virgins working in girly bars or have girls that are asian only girls, IMHO mongering is so much more easy and pain free in thailand with thousands more girls to choose from and when all travel, hotel costs factored in can be much cheaper than angeles, as far as girls I definately see more thai girls I would happily bang than pinays but each to their own tastes I guess.

As far as language Even the amount of thailand younger girls (under 35) that speak excellent english has increased to high levels so that's not a problem any more for thailand.

Don't have a problem with guys that visit angeles and enjoy it but to say angeles can compare to thailand in any way shape or form is a massive stretch of the immagination IMHO.

[Cool]

Yes indeed, as economies advance and more jobs become available, more young girls want to study further education in order to secure a good job then the need to swing ones ass in a gogo bar becomes less appealing.

Yes indeed covid taught many would be bargirls that an attractive young girl can just put her profile online stating wanting to meet new friends and she will have every lonely heart the world over drooling and sending money to her mostly without ever meeting her, know of many girls that earn great money doing just this.

Yes indeed, any girl who is even reasonably ok looking and want to work in Angeles bars will naturally gravitate to the bigger bars that pay well and have structures in place to earn high commissions from lady drinks, large sitting tips, and making it rain money etc, why sit in a western bar with very few customers if any at all, lower salaries, lower drinks commissions and no chance of tips or making it rain money, and lower barfine commissions, girls are in the business of making as much easy money as possible and do exactly what suits them and not the punters pockets.

As far as Pattaya, yes not as good as years gone past, but the sheer size of it, the high number of bars, the thousands of available bargirls, freelancers compared to Angeles city has it far far in front in girl choice and fun factor IMHO.

I'm picky. A lot of the pretty Thai girls went to the province during the pandemic. I see more pretty available ladies in AC than Pattaya currently.

[ATexGuy]

Thanks for your post. You mentioned Jakarta. How does it compare?

I assume you've never gotten BBFS in tijuana? I never have.

It has been quite some time since I have been to Jakarta, but I recall the girls were kind, very submissive, and quite willing to provide service without condoms. It is not hard to find girls in Tijuana that provide BBFS, but it is not something I go there looking for. I typically have tremendous self-guilt when I am stupid and reckless.

[Mastov]

I had a recent opportunity to visit the Philippines and decided to spend my time in Angeles City.

I arrived in Manila late in the evening and decided to stay overnight at the Hyatt. Getting through immigration and baggage claim was fairly quick and easy. I had downloaded the Grab app after learning that Uber does not do business in the Philippines. Locating my Grab driver was somewhat of a hassle, but the drive to the Hyatt was fairly quick. If I were staying in Manila to visit the Makate area, this hotel would have been a good choice. The lounge had an amazing breakfast and the hotel was beautiful and in a very nice area.

Getting from Manila to Angeles City is kind of a hassle unless you want to take a bus from the airport. I had no interest in taking the bus and had the concierge arrange for door to door transportation to the ABC Hotel. It was somewhat pricey but not outrageous and worth the convenience especially considering how hot and humid it was.

Given the reviews of ABC, I decided to book a two bedroom suite for myself and my friend. ABC is not necessarily cheap, but the rooms are very spacious and meticulously clean. I was not impressed with the food at the hotel or the restaurant service, but housekeeping was great. I never found the Aqua club all that busy and never saw any hot girls there. ABC is a fairly short walk from walking street, but the sidewalks are terrible and you have to be careful not to get run over by a trike. It did not appear that pedestrians have the right away in this city.

I checked out all of the bars on walking street and was only really impressed with XS. One observation that I had was that the area had a very strong Korean presence. I was the only Caucasian man in just about every club I went to. I did see some older Brits and Aussies walking the hotel with their young Filipinas, but I didn't see many. I was told by some bar girls that some of the bars are owned by Koreans and many live in Angeles City. What was once an area with a strong American presence from Clark Air Force Base, has really transitioned into an area supported by Korean and Chinese tourists. I do not think I have heard that Gangnam Style played so much since it became a hit in the USA. Must be the Korean guys love that song or seeing the bar girls dance to it LOL.

Of all the monger destinations that I have visited, Angeles City was the most unique in many ways. First, I found most of the girls had babies and most of the Filipinas were tiny. What these mommies wear in the club tends to cover their mommy marks and their little boobs. A friendly Aussie I met in one club told me he lived in AC and offered his advice. He told me 14 out of 15 girls in any club is a mommy and probably has a husband or boyfriend. He suggested that I always buy the girl a drink before paying a barfine and ask to see her breast and her tummy. He even suggested that I tell the mamasan that I did not want any girl that was a mommy. I also noticed that most of the girls I encountered didn't wear much makeup and probably didn't spend too much time on their hair and nails either. Not a dealbreaker for me, but I notice when a girl has chipped up nail polish on her fingers and toes.

On my first night I found a somewhat attractive girl walking outside of the clubs and I asked her where she worked. She told me that she worked at baccara and encouraged me to follow her back to the club if I wanted to barfine her. She was not smoking hot, but she was attractive and didn't have mommy damage despite having two babies. Since my friend was suffering from jet lag and did not come out with me, I decide to bring him a girl. I believe I paid 4000 to barfine the girl from baccara for 3 hours and then headed over to XS. When we walked in the bar all of the girls were standing on stage waiting to get selected. I ended up selecting three more girls to take back to the hotel. I believe I paid 5000 per girl for longtime. I escorted the four girls back to the hotel and woke my friend up and invited him to select one of the four girls. He picked a girl and I had the other three go into my room for my first foursome. No need for details, but once finished, I sent the girls home and didn't care to keep them overnight given how exhausted I was and that I don't sleep too well with a strange girl next to me much less 3. I debated keeping one or two, but good sleep was more important than sex given how little sleep I had over the last 48 hours.

The next morning my friend and I took a walk and found an amazing little breakfast place a 10 minute walk from the ABC. I got a text from the first girl from baccara and invited her back to the hotel. She arrived back around 11 am and stayed til about 4 pm. We had a late lunch and I let her go to work while I went back to sleep. Later that night I went out and started checking all the bars to see if I could find any hot girls. I went to a Korean bar and the talent was weak. I saw a tiny Filipina that I had seen the night before. She had turned down the Aussie guy that prior night, but agreed to leave with me. I paid her barfine and right after another attractive girl returned to the club and I barfined her too. I took both back to my hotel, but instead of doing a threesome, I had one girl sit in the living area and took the other one into my room. After I finished with the first girl, I sent her on her way and brought the second girl into my room. I did not keep the second girl overnight and sent her away after finishing with her as well.

I now know the appeal of Angeles City for those that visit. Not one girl asked me to use a condom and not one girl ever asked me to pull out. While the bar girls are not real beauties, they are super cheap and are incredibly submissive. I do not believe I have visited any place quite like it other than Jakarta. Unfortunately, I am not all that attracted to Filipinas and found Angeles City to be a shithole, so it wasn't any place I wanted to stay for several days. Plus, I was eager to get over to Saigon to see what Vietnam had for me. I took the doxycycline a few days prior to leaving for Manila like many on this forum suggested and I took it for a week after.

So would I go back to Angeles City? Maybe but probably not. If I want cheap sex, it is much easier to go to Tijuana and get a room at cascada for the night and pull girls from Hong Kong all night. Plus, I find latinas to be much more attractive than Filipinas. Flying to the other side of the world does not offer enough value to justify that extremely long flight and the girls just are not that hot in my opinion. If I was Korean or Chinese guy and had an ugly Korean or Chinese wife, it would make sense to fly to Manila for some filthy sex with these bar girls. For an American to fly to the Philippines these days is just not worth it. The flight is brutal, Angles City is a shithole, and the girls are not that hot.

Thanks for your post. You mentioned Jakarta. How does it compare?

I assume you've never gotten BBFS in tijuana? I never have.