Angeles City

[Errol Flynn]

I'll get back to the FRs soon, but want to comment on Restaurants. Again, this is mostly aimed at PI newbies.

The old standards: Around Walking Street there are a number of restaurants that are ex-pat / foreigner oriented that have been mentioned many times on this board. They all have a reason to exist.

Kokomos is pretty much ground zero on Walking Street. They have a HUGE menu including traditional Filipino food, standard western fare, pasta, pizzas and more. In my experience the food is all okay, but not spectacular. You don't (usually) come to Walking Street for the cuisine. What is spectacular is the bar / counter that faces the street. Great views of the action and frequently interesting company from other mongers. Prices are reasonable. Service is Filipino (vert friendly but inattentive). Some of the waitresses are HOT and a few guys seem to have hooked up with some but I have no experience with that. Kokomos takes credit cards if you spend at least 500 pesos. There is an ATM at one end of the restaurant, bathrooms are in the back past the bar. Good place to have an SML and watch the moving scenery. Bar girls are all comfortable visiting Kokomos.

Tequila Reef: TR is a block behind Kokomos just off Walking Street and half way to CPT. I believe it is the same ownership as Margarita Station. There is a Cali / Mex accent to the food, but again they do a broad range that includes Filipino favorites and standard American fare. They have outdoor seating, but the view isn't as good as Kokomos. I usually chose indoors with Air Conditioning at TR. I mostly went here for Breakfast (coffee with one refill included, or a mean bloody mary, not included). Girls were also comfortable here. A little less collegial than Kokomos, but I'd rate the quality of food and service a touch higher (prices are also a touch higher, but nothing to worry about). These places all have guest WiFi if you ask for the password.

Margarita Station: A little bit past the entrance to Walking Street on Fields. Still an easy walk from CPT or other hotels. I only went here once, late at night, at the request of the girl I was with. Seemed nice, pretty similar to TR.

Envy (at Hotel Envy): Across the street from Margarita Station, I gather this is a popular breakfast spot for expats in the early hours (7-9 am). It is large with both indoor and outdoor seating (outdoor seats front Fields). Again I only visited once, in this case with a girl who suggested it. Breakfast food seemed pretty good. Cold AC inside, nothing to complain about.

For good food: This is a matter of personal preference, but for those of you who want the opposite of the Jollibees experience, I have a couple suggestions (I'm sure there are others).

Spice Viet: They have 4 locations, but the one we care about is the Walking Street shop. Spice Viet is owned by the Filipina wife of a Vietnamese / American expat. He will tell you that it's not entirely authentic Vietnamese food (but he will also tell you that his wife is the best cook in the world). The food is more than tasty, it's an antidote to the overcooked overly fatty overly white carbs stuff common in AC, Loads of fresh vegetables and interesting spices. Plus a huge beer list. Except the staff can't find any of the beer on the list, one of the owners has to be there for that. Prices are quite reasonable, but this may not be a place you want to take a BF as they won't get it. Better to sit alone at the counter (which has as good a view as Kokomos but only seats about 4) and watch the bar girls from next door (who come in for cigs and chips) or the massage girls across the street. A hidden gem in my book. But you need to like veggies.

Patches: Phenomenal Thai Restaurant. A short trike ride down Fields from Walking Street. Casual / hip, in an old house, no reservations. Reasonable prices but superb Thai seafood. I took a Mindanao girl here. She had never eatyen Thai Food and was scared (she did like seafood). She was thrilled, in fact I think that'; s when she fell in love with me (hehe). If you like Thai food don't miss it.

Other: At the bottom of Walking Street is a proper McDonalds. That's not my thing, but I stuck my head in several times because I had heard it was a Freelancer hangut. I only saw families, but if you're craving the taste of the USA it's an option. If you want chains but more sophistication the mall has a huge Food Court. It's an easy walk (although hot in the worst hours of the afternoon.) It's clean and safe, but no I didn't see FLs there (maybe I need new glasses).

There are many other restaurants in AC. I saw Indian, Afghani and Pakistani, Korean and Japanese. This is just my experience. Don't think the food options are going to be terrible. It's not Thailand, but there are options. Enjoy.

[Takdmo]

I'm a bit paranoid at doing BB and wanted to find a place to do STD test and get antibiotics to be safe. Any recommendations for where I should go in Angeles City?

[Errol Flynn]

The other good thing about CPT is there is a giant mirror wall opposite the elevators. While you are waiting there for the elevator with the girl of the day, you pretend you just thought of taking a picture, and you face the mirror and get a nice full body selfie, then another in the elevator. This was a great way to document all the girls for reminiscing when you return home to boring life.

It didn't occur to me to use the mirror that way. So much to learn. But the girls liked it. They also liked shooting Tick Tock videos all over the hotel. I had a hard time kicking one ST girl out.

[Goferring]

As Westie said is roughly the same as WA.

If it's the same, then why change? Anyone who thinks that 'the man' can't access a particular widespread app is just kidding themselves. If they want it, then they will get it either thru subpoena or crack and tap.

I'll pass. I gave up pretending that I had any private info long ago and I've already got enough crap in my phone not to need any more.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

As Westie said is roughly the same as WA.

Also try Signal. This is also popular as some now don't trust WA.

In some counties am sure there is some collusion between the app and the authorities as some will say Signal has better encryption etc. Is why many friends have switched to Signal incl some on tis board.

All apps are in collusion with the government in each country. They comply with Court orders routinely if they keep records. Numerous of the US January 6 defendants were convicted with help from either subpoena'd or government-hacked private and encrypted Signal chats.

https://gizmodo.com/authorities-clai...ats-1848361100

[Wicked Roger]

I know nothing about Telegram but almost everything I hear about it is connected with anonymity and use by scammers. Exactly what is it and how does it work? Have you found it reliable?

Cheers. G.

As Westie said is roughly the same as WA.

Also try Signal. This is also popular as some now don't trust WA.

In some counties am sure there is some collusion between the app and the authorities as some will say Signal has better encryption etc. Is why many friends have switched to Signal incl some on tis board.

[FuriousGeorge]

This is the room I stay in (if it's the big room with the giant tv on the desk in the middle). It's really easy to connect your laptop to the tv and put on music videos for the girls when they come over. You got lucky that you faced south, which gives you a view. That room only faces north and south and the north view is that half completed monstrosity of a building. Your view consists of concrete and rebar 6 feet from your face.

The other good thing about CPT is there is a giant mirror wall opposite the elevators. While you are waiting there for the elevator with the girl of the day, you pretend you just thought of taking a picture, and you face the mirror and get a nice full body selfie, then another in the elevator. This was a great way to document all the girls for reminiscing when you return home to boring life.

My room (Executive something with the big tub and glass windows to the bathroom, something like floor 8) was quite nice in all regards, no balcony but big windows with a view of AC (didn't impress me but the girls all LOVED the view). Good blackout curtains, nicely stocked at fair prices in mini bar, no complaints about the room. I was disappointed in the airport pickup (as previously described), plus the lobby ATM never worked during the eight days I was there. The service at the rooftop bar / restaurant was TERRIBLE (but that's a PI thing). Food up there was mediocre, but there are many other options.

[Errol Flynn]

I'll get to the negatives that I saw, but other than price they are pretty meaningless...

...I was disappointed in the airport pickup (as previously described), plus the lobby ATM never worked during the eight days I was there. The service at the rooftop bar / restaurant was TERRIBLE (but that's a PI thing). Food up there was mediocre, but there are many other options.

These are all minor, but FYI.

As noted before it takes a LONG time for the hot water to get to the 8th floor, but once you figure out the handle and that you need to start it early it's fine. There's plenty of hot water. Two bath towels a day are not enough for the activities (and multiple guests) the Hotel's customers are involved in. They should know that. Similarly, the two tiny tubes of shampoo are not enough. I recommend bringing your own. On the plus side they do gift you two cheap toothbrushes a day. I had brought some with me, but the girls all want a toothbrush, so the Hotel brushes helped. (all the Hotels I stayed in provided toothbrushes. I have no idea why the girls don't carry one in their purse).

The door to my room had an automatic closer, but it wasn't strong enough to latch it. You had to pay attention or you could leave your room unlocked. Finally, the front desk wasn't very helpful with Concierge type requests, those were clearly outside their wheelhouse.

Still, the only reason I wouldn't stay at CPT again would be to save money. You don't need CPT, but it is nice (I might try ABC just to experience it, but the distance would probably keep me away.

Hope this helps. My posts are mostly aimed at guys in the position I was in a few months ago. Planning (or maybe just considering) a first trip to the PI. I know there's not much I can add for the veterans.

[WestCoast1]

I know nothing about Telegram but almost everything I hear about it is connected with anonymity and use by scammers. Exactly what is it and how does it work? Have you found it reliable?

Like WA, its private end-2-end encrypted messaging.

[Errol Flynn]

I stayed at Central Park Tower. For a short stay, and if you aren't trying to absolutely maximize your budget I think it's an excellent choice. I'll get to the negatives that I saw, but other than price they are pretty meaningless.

Although slightly difficult to find, CPT is a very short walk to Walking Street or Fields. Far enough away to be quiet, but close enough to run back to the hotel if you spill food on your shirt or need more cash. Location is Excellent. Lobby staff is friendly (and some are very cute but I didn't try anything). They do not ask for your girl's ID going up, but they do call you before letting her out when she leaves ("Your guest is leaving. Everything okay, sir? Be sure to point out your room number, to the girl, because if she doesn't know your room or name she'll have a hard time leaving!

My room (Executive something with the big tub and glass windows to the bathroom, something like floor 8) was quite nice in all regards, no balcony but big windows with a view of AC (didn't impress me but the girls all LOVED the view). Good blackout curtains, nicely stocked at fair prices in mini bar, no complaints about the room. I was disappointed in the airport pickup (as previously described), plus the lobby ATM never worked during the eight days I was there. The service at the rooftop bar / restaurant was TERRIBLE (but that's a PI thing). Food up there was mediocre, but there are many other options.

Girls LOVED CPT. I'm not saying you need to stay in a hotel that girls love. You don't. Their decision to go with you will NOT be about the hotel you are in (as long as it's safe). But it's a small plus when they want to shoot TikTock / Instagram / Facebook shit at your hotel. And at CPT they want to. Maybe not as much as at ABC, but I found the girls I brought home either were very familiar (and comfortable) with CPT or thrilled to discover it. The proximity to Walking Street also gave them comfort (although there are plenty of cheaper hotels that can offer that).

Some of you will think I spent too much on CPT. If it's just about the girls you're probably right. If I were going to AC for a longer stint, or with fewer resources, I am sure there are very decent places you can stay for less. Scorebirds is a well known one, but folks I met in AC mentioned some others that don't get talked about here (If I can identify them I'll post). Personally, I think it is highly desirable to stay within a few blocks of Walking Street. (But not ON Walking Street). That and decent AC would be the most important things to me in any future booking.

So what about ABC? I thought I'd visit while I was there, but it never happened. ABC is THE fanciest Hotel in the Monger part of AC. Many people (including the girls) love it. The problem is ABC is a long walk (short Trike Ride) from Walking Street. If you are more organized (anal?) than I am and never have a sudden desire to return to your hotel that may be fine. It's the best hotel. The girls love it.

But for me, the basic rule would be stay within a few blocks of Walking Street (but not right on it). From there balance price and amenities to your liking. The girls will appreciate fancy things, but that won't be why they go with you.

[Transporter]

I've stayed at Plaza Suites twice, when I showed up unexpectedly at ABC and it was full, so I had to stay for a night at Plaza. It's nice enough, but at least when I stayed there, it had no restaurant or bar which was a downer for me. I would by no means call either Plaza Suites of ABC "luxury" in the traditional sense of judging accommodations, but in my opinion, it's the best that Angeles has to offer.

GE.

Not the greatest pic (I know I have a bunch more, just got to find them) probably was off my flip phone at the time. But it is an okay place to stay and have fun.

[Errol Flynn]

My flight landed at 5 am on Thursday (half an hour late). Covid check was as simple as flashing my QR code, Immigration had a small line but was easy. The first hiccup was getting my bag. Which took forever. No Customs clearance for non-Pilippinos. Then I followed the very precise instructions from Central Park to the Bay where my driver was to meet me (arriving that early I wanted things simple, and indeed I wanted nothing more than to collapse into the car and get to the Hotel where I had booked an extra night in order to check in early.) But NO DRIVER. It took an hour to connect with him (my phone wasn't working and CPT didn't respond to emails, eventually I had to borrow a phone. Turns out he went to the wrong Terminal. How a driver for CPT doesn't know that Philippines Airlines comes into Terminal 1 is beyond me, but this type of fuck up seems to be quite standard in the PI, even when you're dealing with a 4 star hotel. They don't get that it's even a problem.

Got to AC and CPT is a very nice hotel. Showered, rested a bit and then went out to explore. I thought I might find a pretty massage girl, but no joy (in Thailand they were all over the place sitting on the curb waiting for you, but the few Massage girls I saw outside in the daytime in Angeles were all Fuglies). Nor were there any obvious FLs. There were, however, girls sitting outside the doors of numerous bars by early afternoon. These are not "door girls" as in some countries, they are regular bar girls doing a stint at trying to lure customers in. I had lunch at Kokomos, a great place to watch Walking Street and several of the girls in the doorway of Bar 1-2-3 (directly across the street) were quite cute and actively trying to engage with other dudes sitting at the Kokomos counter. I was tempted, but decided I was too tired and went back to CPT (2 blocks). I decided to book a hotel massage. I figured this wouldn't include extras, but after a 15 hour flight a massage seemed like a great idea. The girl was middling attractive, but if it's just a massage that's fine. However, she very quickly started making it sexual. It was a good massage, not just an excuse for he, but it was clear more was on offer. I wasn't sure I wanted to spill leche on that, but after the depravation of Sex Prison I caved and let her do a HJ. 1,000 peso tip plus 500 for massage. I'm sure more was available although she told me not to tell anyone that she did extras (so I'm not sharing her name).

I took a nap and then went out looking for trouble. I had planned on trying some of the flashier clubs, but after sticking my head in a few I decided to try Bar 1-2-3 which had new cute girls at the door. This was about 7 pm but I was tired. 1-2-3 is Korean owned but Management welcomes others. That said, the girls aren't all keen on Foreigners. There were maybe 30 girls, all wearing matching white dresses, standing on stage, but really not dancing. 3 or 4 struck my fancy. There was a real stunner at the far end, model material in my book. But I tried to catch her eye and she wouldn't look at me. Instead she would make big faces at the Koreans who walked in, looked, and walked out. I realized I'd be wasting my time on her, pretty or not. My second choice, I'll call her J, returned my looks with some shy smiles so I decided to bring her down. I offered her a drink and she said she doesn't drink alcohol because it causes her skin to break out. I said fine and got her a fruit juice. J told me that the Koreans would usually send her back up without a drink when she told them she didn't drink alcohol, she really appreciated that I didn't do that. (If my memory is correct LDs were 350 and my beers were about 115). We chatted a bit (excellent English which was common). J is from Mindanao (seems I like Mindanao girls), 20 years old, no babies, 2 months in AC (they all seemed to say 2 months in AC so who knows?) Slim and quite pretty in the eyes of this beerholder. So I asked if she wanted to Bar Fine? She said yes, 4000 pesos ST, that didn't seem to be negotiable, but I didn't really try, I only wanted ST that night. I asked "No condom, okay?" J said yes, as long as I didn't come inside her. I said fine and we went.

J was super sweet (a recurring theme) and somewhat submissive / passive. She wasn't going to take the lead on wild sex, but was happy for me to fuck her anyway I wanted. She told me that even though she works at a Korean owned bar she really doesn't like going with Koreans. (Hence I'm not naming her). She showed me pictures on her phone of the penis stud rings she says all the Koreans want to wear. She found them disgusting and doesn't like how the Koreans treat the girls. Several girls told me the same thing. Maybe they were all blowing smoke up my ass. But it seems to me that there are some girls who prefer Koreans and others who prefer Foreigners. Something for everyone.

There was no rush to the session and she hung out with me for quite awhile afterwards. She was happy to cuddle and kiss, although she tried to keep her lips closed. But I was tired and eventually kicked her out. J didn't ask for a tip and I didn't think to offer one. Not a bad first night.

[Errol Flynn]

I had hoped to write FRs while I was there, but I was too damn busy with more important things! Will try to add some detailed reports as time allows, but let me start by saying I had a GREAT first visit. I ended up spending eight days in AC (staying at Central Park Tower, which I recommend), one night in Makati, four days in Sabang, a night in Rizal (long story) and my final night in Malate. I had been concerned that more than four days in AC would be boring. It wasn't, at least on a first trip, between jet lag and some misconceptions it took me four days to really get the hang of what I was doing.

Was it better (cheaper) in the Good Old Days? I'm sure it was, but it's still great, even if no longer the cheapest option in the world, I have never found true GFE like the Pinas give anywhere else. How about those Korean's? Sure, twenty years ago white guys (called Foreigners) were at the top of the pecking order, and today the Koreans are at the top, especially in Korean owned bars. And yes, there were girls who wouldn't go with me as an aging over weight Foreigner. Bummer. But I met many hot girls (even in Korean owned bars) that said they hated going with Koreans and much prefer Foreigners. In fact I ended up traveling my second week with a super cute 19 year old Visayan girl (from Lollipop) who just texted me that she misses her California King (Bed) - a reference to my big belly as well as my state.

I have been to Colombia multiple times and Thailand once (15 years ago. But I have followed things). If you want the cheapest possible sex (short of Madagascar) go to Colombia. And if you speak Spanish you can get something like GFE there, although having been to the PIs now I realize it was more "Friends with (paid) benefits" than true GFE. Meanwhile I found sex in Thailand to be readily available at numerous price points, but more transactional. I never found real GFE there, although not speaking Thai was part of that. No matter how old you are, in the PI you can find 18-20 year old sweethearts who will be your true GF (for better or worse) for as little as a few hours, or as long as you want.

FWIW there are a fair number of African Americans in AC, mostly retired military I think, and the girls didn't seem to have any problem with them, although they might be scared of dick size, as they seemed a bit scared of that even with Foreigners. I didn't see East Indians or Arabs, there were some Japanese and Chinese mongerers along with plenty of Aussies and a smattering of Brits, continental Europeans and Americans.

More later.

[DzikaBomba]

I know nothing about Telegram but almost everything I hear about it is connected with anonymity and use by scammers. Exactly what is it and how does it work? Have you found it reliable?

Cheers. G.

Because it is not only a messenger, its also an social media.

Use it only for messaging and you are fine. Don't go into buying drugs and anti vax theories and nothing bad will come out of it.

It has a people nearby function same as wechat. And this function delivers results.

Give it a try and you will see.

[Goferring]

Pinalove, wechat, tantan, telegram.

I know nothing about Telegram but almost everything I hear about it is connected with anonymity and use by scammers. Exactly what is it and how does it work? Have you found it reliable?

Cheers. G.