Manila

[GreenBud]

Once at SM Clark your choices to get to your AC hotel are: Walk; tryke (p150 mafia); or taxi (p300 mafia); have done all three.

Another option is to use Grab.

Not certain if Grab can pick you up in front of the Genesis stop. I am guessing they can since it's in front of the mall.

Can't stand the transport mafia. Last year, I paid 292 pesos for a Grab ride from SM's BDO to all the way to Porac.

[WestCoast1]

I think it was called Fly The Bus pick you up at the hotel in Manila and then drop you off at your hotel in AC. Does this service still run and if so can someone remind what hotel you leave from in Manila.

Was it at the (former?) Southern Cross Hotel in Ermita? It used to run twice a day. Don't think its operated in some years now. Alternately some of us have talked up the Genesis bus, departing hourly from NAIA terminal 3, starting around 2 am to 7 pm. Bus runs direct to SM Clark, without stopping for pickups / dropoffs. Light traffic = 90 minutes, heavy traffic longer. Price is about p400, and return from SM Clark to T3 is also hourly. Have taken it several times. No CR on the bus. Google 'Genesis bus NAIA' for more info. Also search in the Phils threads on 'Genesis'. You will need to taxi from your NCR hotel to the airport to pick up the bus. I think it departs T3 at stall 13 or 14.

Once at SM Clark your choices to get to your AC hotel are: Walk; tryke (p150 mafia); or taxi (p300 mafia); have done all three.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2907491

Hotel-2-hotel private cars are also available, p3500, contact BeeWay Travel (Google it for their website, or their FB presence you can PM).

[Goferring]

but the search cannot be conducted in bars, and there chances of finding such relationship as a two week warrior are scant.

GE.

Many don't even wait for the plane to leave for the two weeks but start sending a truck load of cash before even meeting. That's not the girl or Philippines' fault. Shit, for the price of a house, I'd say I love him too. 😍.

G.

[Chris Long]

I think it was called Fly The Bus pick you up at the hotel in Manila and then drop you off at your hotel in AC. Does this service still run and if so can someone remind what hotel you leave from in Manila.

[GoodEnough]

The way I've always put it is that Asia tends to exaggerate someone's personality. The guy who some times has a few too many will drink himself to death. The guy in a power trip will be screaming at a 150 p a day waitress because his steak isn't cooked to his liking. The introvert will disappear to the boonies, never to be seen again. And, yes, the desperate and dateless will be complaining about how stuck up the stunners are. Most of us have seen all of the above.

Yes, the ripoffs and disastrous break ups make the news but they are definitely the vocal minority. 99% of the time it's his fault anyway because of leading with his wallet or being incredibly gullible. Most guys who have been here for a while know many others who put some effort into finding the right girl and have lived happily ever after, often for decades. I'm no saint but guys who only know friends who are bar flies and girls who are hookers really need to look at their choices rather than blaming their surroundings. 😁.

Rant off. 😜.

G.

I don't post much anymore, not out of lack of interest but because I think most of the regular contributors here cover the waterfront accurately and I have nothing of interest to add. However, the above resonated with me because, after more than two decades of living here, I think I've witnessed the full spectrum of expat behavior.

The most frequent laments I hear from foreigners is, as referenced above, the bitterness of those guys who were once convinced that the bargirl they hired for a few nights was, in the end, only interested in their money, a shocker I know. And the most frequent response to urging caution from those of us who have been here for a while, is some variation of: "I hear what you're saying, but she's different and we're in love. " I've given up trying to warn newbies. In fact, I've given up meeting them at all, given their tone deafness. I do continue to get frequent requests for advice on the best avenues to pursue for finding a "real" girlfriend, or a "true love. " My advice, frequently given and seldom heeded, is to stop looking in bars, in online pay for play "dating" sites and quick hookup bars. For those actually looking for long-term relationships, there are abundant opportunities to establish satisfying, long-term relationships with wonderful women, but the search cannot be conducted in bars, and there chances of finding such relationship as a two week warrior are scant.

GE.

[WestCoast1]

I'm no saint but guys who only know friends who are bar flies and girls who are hookers really need to look at their choices rather than blaming their surroundings. 😁.

Well I've been sending you too many PM's. . . 😁.

[Dg8787]

The way I've always put it is that Asia tends to exaggerate someone's personality. The guy who some times has a few too many will drink himself to death. The guy in a power trip will be screaming at a 150 p a day waitress because his steak isn't cooked to his liking. The introvert will disappear to the boonies, never to be seen again. And, yes, the desperate and dateless will be complaining about how stuck up the stunners are. Most of us have seen all of the above.

Yes, the ripoffs and disastrous break ups make the news but they are definitely the vocal minority. 99% of the time it's his fault anyway because of leading with his wallet or being incredibly gullible. Most guys who have been here for a while know many others who put some effort into finding the right girl and have lived happily ever after, often for decades. I'm no saint but guys who only know friends who are bar flies and girls who are hookers really need to look at their choices rather than blaming their surroundings. 😁.

Rant off. 😜.

G.

To add to this.

I have found bargirls to have more integrity and honestly than everyone else. Of course there were some small time scams which I quickly dropped the girls. I have had westerners with some sad stories that borrowed $100 from me and never even attempted to pay back $1. 00. Bargirls have provided extra services for the much needed "loan".

[Goferring]

observation I have made over time is, if a guy appears to be an arsehole / asshole in the Philippines, he probably is in his home country too. A lot of 'new' guys arrive expecting to find a long term GF on the spot. It doesn't work that way. The reason they don't, is probably why they can't get one at home. Just my observations. Phil.

The way I've always put it is that Asia tends to exaggerate someone's personality. The guy who some times has a few too many will drink himself to death. The guy in a power trip will be screaming at a 150 p a day waitress because his steak isn't cooked to his liking. The introvert will disappear to the boonies, never to be seen again. And, yes, the desperate and dateless will be complaining about how stuck up the stunners are. Most of us have seen all of the above.

Yes, the ripoffs and disastrous break ups make the news but they are definitely the vocal minority. 99% of the time it's his fault anyway because of leading with his wallet or being incredibly gullible. Most guys who have been here for a while know many others who put some effort into finding the right girl and have lived happily ever after, often for decades. I'm no saint but guys who only know friends who are bar flies and girls who are hookers really need to look at their choices rather than blaming their surroundings. 😁.

Rant off. 😜.

G.

[PhilJoy]

Me too.

One of the best things about the Philippines is the huge number of ways of meeting girls, the appearance of said girls and methods of banging them.

Everyone likes different things and almost all are available in the PI somewhere..

Absolutely agree G. If you're not into the typical bar scene like myself, there are alternatives and it's just a matter of thinking outside the box, before you get into the box. For me, this country never fails to disappoint. One observation I have made over time is, if a guy appears to be an arsehole / asshole in the Philippines, he probably is in his home country too. A lot of 'new' guys arrive expecting to find a long term GF on the spot. It doesn't work that way. The reason they don't, is probably why they can't get one at home. Just my observations. Phil.

[Goferring]

..Everyone has their own way of operating and I appreciate that. Phil.

Me too.

What's the definition of insanity?? Repeating the same thing and expecting different results. Lots of guys find fault with the PI but keep coming back to the activities they don't like: poor attitudes in AC, high costs on P Burgos, grannies in LA Cafe etc. One of the best things about the Philippines is the huge number of ways of meeting girls, the appearance of said girls and methods of banging them.

Everyone likes different things and almost all are available in the PI somewhere.

Enjoy. G.

[KumuMan]

Fellas,

Not much traffic on LA Cafe lately? Are the other entertainment areas so much better that this venue is hardly worth it? I am headed to PI at the EOM and am working on options for engagement. I am adapt at online; however, prefer to eyeball the goods prior to buying.

N_R.

I can't stand LA I hate it. First time ever in Malate a girl took me there and not even 1 minute I walked out. Fucking smokers haven, guys lighting up one after another. If you ever bring a girl from there back to your room make sure she shampoos her hair LOL.

[PhilJoy]

I have found great value in PH for myself. That is all that matters. Not what someone else tells what it should be. Never mind the NaySayers.

Couldn't agree more DG. There's great value to be had in the PH and some amazing women. Personally, I don't do the typical girly bar scene as I have an issue about paying $100 for a round of lady drinks (fruit juice) when they swarm upon you in packs, not to mention bar fines on top of that and potentially a dud root as a result. I know I'm open to criticism for not following the 'normal' . However, I have over time, made many contacts and see repeat girls by keeping in touch. By not paying the bar expenses, I can 'reward' the girls I know and send money in their direction instead by way of clothes, vacations etc. And, believe me, they appreciate it! Everyone has their own way of operating and I appreciate that. Phil.

[D Cups]

Fellas,

Not much traffic on LA Cafe lately? Are the other entertainment areas so much better that this venue is hardly worth it? I am headed to PI at the EOM and am working on options for engagement. I am adapt at online; however, prefer to eyeball the goods prior to buying.

N_R.

Slim pickins when I was there recently. Actually not that slim if you know what I mean. But there are always spinners in the PI.

[Dg8787]

Couldn't agree more Westie. Whatever it takes. And if you're happy and the girl's happy, everyone's a winner _ Phil.

That is exactly what it is about. Value for value. Of course add in something for contingencies or losses in the budget. Decide what is an acceptable loss and move on to another adventure.

I have found great value in PH for myself. That is all that matters. Not what someone else tells what it should be. Never mind the NaySayers.

[Nite_Runner]

Not so much. If you feel you obtained value for the pesos that you gave for good girlie experience, then bully for you. Pre-covid it was easier to give consistent price info for most situations, but things have changed since then.

OTOH, from your posting history, you have visited many places over the years and given some solid field reports elsewhere, but not so much in Phils. Please do so after your upcoming visit.

Thank you for sharing your position. I am a finance type by trade and certainly understand the meaning of the word "value". Yes, I have never regretted my doing such as I typically see an immediate "return on my investment". The chickie feels better about themselves and there is usually an immediate and sustained payoff.

Don't worry, I will submit a report upon completion. Truth be told, this is my first trip to PI in 10+ years.

N_R.