Angeles City

**Pussycat123** · 03-13-24 05:47

Originally Posted by Ronin63 [View Original Post]

Just off Theodore street will pull a simply scam. Pay upfront, then ask you to pay again when you pick up. Check your receipt to make sure it says paid.

You got scammed for 50 pesos.

**Buck011** · 03-12-24 20:19

Will spend couple of days end of March in AC.

Just wondering if there will be enough working girls in town or most are going back home?

**A Traveler** · 03-12-24 14:09

I can report that massage girls are handing out cards on Fields in the early evening again. Years ago I took one and the girl was a rele star. 19 and Fresh from Mindanao, her massage sucked, but she offered extras, and the boom boom was exceptional. I repeated with her over a few months. Eventually she became a dancer in Brown Sugar.

Unfortunately, the girls this time are young and cute, but heavily tattooed. I will continue to investigate this.

**A Traveler** · 03-12-24 14:05

Originally Posted by TravelingMan3 [View Original Post]

I live in Pattaya but may head over this way during Songkran I've heard that the ladyboy numbers are down. Even at the usual spot outside Phillies et are the still on the street or all online.

Last night I encountered the ladyboys on Narciso Ave. Maybe they were pushed that far out. There were fewer normal people around, so it was a little scary, but as long as I kept walking they left me alone.

**Dg8787** · 03-11-24 04:10

Originally Posted by Ronin63 [View Original Post]

Just off Theodore street will pull a simply scam. Pay upfront, then ask you to pay again when you pick up. Check your receipt to make sure it says paid.

Is this a one occurrence thing? Or multiple times pulled on you?

Could it be just a mistake?

**Ronin63** · 03-10-24 09:36

Just off Theodore street will pull a simply scam. Pay upfront, then ask you to pay again when you pick up. Check your receipt to make sure it says paid.

**Yankees532** · 03-10-24 02:43

Originally Posted by ATraveler [View Original Post]

I guess there's a third kind of bar, the big showbars like XS. I wouldn't dream of taking a girl from this bar. I use it as my "safe bar" I can take a barfine to "build rapport," which is probably a waste of time and money. The girls wear glittery evening gowns and just stand statue still on stage. It's boring as fuck.

IMO the best looking girls that are at least visible to the public (no idea what's available on any of the "apps") in all of Angeles are the blacktape ones at XS.

**Pussycat123** · 03-09-24 23:32

USD is still king but the reason for Korean infiltration of Angeles is due to Korea being much closer to AC and cheap flights from Seoul.

**LoveItHere69** · 03-09-24 19:06

Originally Posted by ATraveler [View Original Post]

These bars are like brothels, so you have to carefully scope out a girl you like, then ask a waitress to call her down.

My money is good in these bars, and I am a welcome customer.

I guess there's a third kind of bar, the big showbars like XS. I wouldn't dream of taking a girl from this bar. The girls wear glittery evening gowns and just stand statue still on stage. It's boring as fuck.

AC bars are not like brothels. Very few girls will turn you down in a brothel and the girls in a brothel know they have one job and that is to "F". AC bars have girls that only drink, only dance, only barfine to get be a temporary girlfriend which means wine, dine, and take her shopping. How many brothel girls have you done that with? Funny you mention you have to carefully scope out the girl you like. Nobody does that at a brothel. Basically, if she smiles, makes eye contact, and is pretty the deal is done.

Everyone's money is welcome for drinks. But not everyone's money is welcome for barfines.

You said it yourself. Many Korean bars and the girls in them are boring as fuck. Many guys come to shitsville for fun girls. Not the boring Princesses that make up half the bars now.

**Skyrben** · 03-09-24 18:00

The 5 day trip on this week was my first visit to AC. I have been to Philippines 2 times before and this was my third visit. I am a European guy, bit over 50 years old. I have been mongering all over the world over the past 15 years. In Latin America, Europe and Asia. Mostly in Thailand for the last years. Just recently created this ISG account.

Stayed in ABC hotel. Aqua suite. Really nice spacious room, good air con and great big bath tub. Upstairs pool area was also nice. Allthough there are not real sun chairs but just those sofa groups. I mostly ate in the hotel, food and service was fine. They also had own hotel clown to entertain the guests in the dining area and by the pool. Namely an older American dude. Every time he saw me he said something dumb. Last time I saw him he looked like an old goat in kids' clothing wearing LOS Angeles Lakers gear. Looked so ridiculous. I just laughed at him.

Needless to say anything about the place itself. It is an asshole as desribed before. One of the most ugliest places I have been to sex vacation. But wanted to see it once in my life and now it is done.

The Walking Street bars had a wide selection of working girls. I visited in almost all of the bars during first 2 days and then repeated the ones I liked best. I liked more the western bars where girls have bikinis and some even dance topless for a while. I did not like the Korean bars like Viking or XS so much because the girls wear dresses. Many pretty faces yes but I don't like the saggy suprises in my hotel room when the undressed. Allthough the blacktape show at XS was nice to watch. At Stars bar there was a cute young lass with large tits who told me a few times she has her period and won't barfine. Then on my last night when I was walking back to ABC I saw her sitting outside of the bar. Bought her a drink and suddenly she was ready to go with me. But I declined her since I had already fucked in the afternoon. Once a day is enough for me and my libido.

I am used to see a lot of topless dancing and pretty tits in Thailand agogo bars and the lack of that in AC bars was a real bummer for me. And the quality of working girls is lower in AC compared to Pattaya IMO. More MILF's in AC. Anyway I liked best Shooters bar and Lollipop. Barfined a slim thing from Lollipop couple of times and had good time with her. Nice and tight. So the trip was not a total disaster as it first looked like it will be. But one visit was enough for me, never again. There are so much nicer P4 P places in the world for me to visit.

**MoonShot** · 03-09-24 12:35

Originally Posted by Pussycat123 [View Original Post]

For those worried about Koreans taking over Angeles, don't worry, it will all be over soon. Their birth rate is like 0.01 so pretty soon there won't be any of them left to fly to Clark. Its the most boring place in Asia as well. K pop is just marketing created by Samsung to make people think junk made in Korea is cool.

I went there once and got the fuck out immediately so I didnt die of boredom.

Demographic trends take a long time to play out and you will be dead by the time it plays out. There is a lot to do in South Korea and Korean girls are very beautiful. Most guys are familiar with them due to Korean massage parlors and K-pop videos.

I will say this about the Koreans. Angeles City was in a death spiral and Western visitors weren't enough to maintain profitability in the Western bars. It is only because of the infusion of money from Koreans that AC continues to survive in a meaningful way. With just the Western bars and no new money coming in, there would have been even less girls interested in coming to AC if to AC. There is no barriers to westerners opening more bars but they don't.

**RainMania** · 03-09-24 11:50

Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican [View Original Post]

While I haven't lived in Korea I have been there dozens of times starting in 2004. You are mostly correct about mongering in Korea. Its gotten more difficult. Years ago I have fucked everything from a window girl in Miari to high end KTV girls. But now unless you go with local business contacts as a foreigner you are shut out. Its much like Japan has always been. But I don't think the same logic is applying to Korean bars in AC. I have barfined from several smaller Korean owned bars with no issues. Maybe a few are trying to exclude but not all. The problem in AC has become high prices, boring bars and girls suddenly being selective. I don't want to go to a shit hole hooker town to be turned down by some princess after agreeing to pay an exorbitant bar fine.

I qualified my past statements by stating that people CAN still barfine from Korean bars, it's just the girls that are available for us non-Koreans to barfine are the leftovers who didn't make the cut on the booking apps. And there's a reason more and more princesses are publicly turning us down in bars (but are happy to make private arrangements), I'll leave the reasons for that for the more observant members to deduce.

But what's done is done. They won and are now the dominant force in AC for the foreseeable. That doesn't mean I have to spend my money in their bars though. Like I said before, other people are happy to spend their money for the service they get from k-bars and are happy with whatever nuts they get. I'm a lot more selective with who gets my hard earned money, the bare minimum is they at least shouldn't be openly disrespecting me to my face.

**Pussycat123** · 03-09-24 05:30

For those worried about Koreans taking over Angeles, don't worry, it will all be over soon. Their birth rate is like 0.01 so pretty soon there won't be any of them left to fly to Clark. Its the most boring place in Asia as well. K pop is just marketing created by Samsung to make people think junk made in Korea is cool.

I went there once and got the fuck out immediately so I didnt die of boredom.

**A Traveler** · 03-09-24 03:14

Originally Posted by Pussycat123 [View Original Post]

Lets get real here guys and stop living in fantasy land. How about some intel from someone who was in AC 6 times last year barfining left and right.

"Korean only apps"; There is one app called "Band" which some Korean bars use. Some of the bars such as Barnana post pics of their girls and then guests can reserve the girl online (Basically a call girl service). As for "Korean only", I'm as white as rice and I was given access to this "Korean only" app. I didn't actually use it though as it was just a list of the same girls that you can meet by walking into the bar.

Other Korean bars such as Skyfalls specifically state on their FB that they DONT let guests reserve girls on apps because a lot of the girls dont like it. In the AC lingo, call girl service is called "Go See" and barfining in the bar is called "Direct duty".

As for Korean's not liking or going with girls that barfine foreigners, what a crock of shit. First of all how the fuck could they enforce it, girls are getting fucked left and right, at work, sneaking out, etc. Why would a bar leave money on the table because of some racist mentality? I've barfined MANY TIMES in Korean bars and banged a number of Spotlight girls or "Aces" (The most popular girls). Shit, in Baccarra, a Korean bar, the DJ was announcing my name when I walked in and calling down the hottest spotlight girls for me to barfine. He called down the #1 girl, a fucking pole dancer, salary 1 k per day, for me to barfine. And they even gave me a discount on the barfine! As to why I got this VIP treatment. Maybe because I'm a regular guest in the bar and not a fucking kuripot?

PussyCat123 is right. I'm on the ground and my money is welcome in all the bars, Western or Korean. "Western" bars are "fun" and the girls are friendly and accessible. These bars are Lollipop, Shooters, Gecko's, Masquerade, Monsoon, Old Bar, I may have missed a coupled. The girls might dance and might make eye contact with you and smile. You can fulfill your fantasy of picking up a hot young girl in a bar. There are plenty of young, sexy girls.

The other bars are boring with girls in dresses or street clothes standing or even sitting on stage. The girls are still Filipino girls, and not necessarily better than the girls in the Western bars. There may be some younger ones, and some may have elaborate hairstyles. There are plenty of sexy girls available, and they are not "pre-booked," at least early in the evening. I usually go to these bars first to take a look at their lineups. These bars are like brothels, so you have to carefully scope out a girl you like, then ask a waitress to call her down. If you pick a young one with an elaborate hairstyle, there is a chance that she won't come down, but most will. My money is good in these bars, and I am a welcome customer.

I guess there's a third kind of bar, the big showbars like XS. I wouldn't dream of taking a girl from this bar. I use it as my "safe bar" I can take a barfine to "build rapport," which is probably a waste of time and money. The girls wear glittery evening gowns and just stand statue still on stage. It's boring as fuck.

**RainMania** · 03-08-24 10:05

Originally Posted by WestCoast1 [View Original Post]

Good info, thanks.

Great analysis.

I joked before that pics of a modestly-mediocre vaxxing tool was enough to scare insecure small-schwonged rich guys. What would the K's think of BBC?

They can begrudgingly tolerate thinking about BWC devouring the girls they desire to some extent. But BBC, that is a step beyond what they're willing to comprehend or accept LOL. They don't see BBC holders as human, and this is coming from someone with a BBC. Some Koreans see us as sub human, others see us as superhuman, either way they don't want BBC near any pussy they plan on porking as they may not be able to "touch the walls" (running k-joke) after the BBC has had his fill. The irony in all this of course is they barely see South East Asians as human (if only you knew some of the nicknames they have for the locals in PH / TH / Cambodia etc), but they're more than happy to creampie these people they see as beneath them.