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  1. #23341
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Oh got it. I had heard of atlantis a million times but never grand dragon EDIT: do you mean Dragon Den? Can't find grand dragon online. I'd assume where koreans go, there should be more slimmer / whiter /"asian pretty" girls.
    It's Dragon something. Angeles Wayne's map list it as Dragon Bar. It is upstairs next to the old Club Asia. A lot of Koreans go there really early. A lot of girls for such a small bar. There were a few decent girls. But most of those girls were in cocktail dresses. I think that's more of the Korean style, trying to be classy with girls in cocktail dresses. I prefer girls in bikinis (or naked like Pattaya).

    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    I'm definitely a bit pickier. But yes, I'm definitely under the impression where id tip her every day she's gone.

    Honestly, I feel like this should be somewhat appealing for a girl (assuming she likes me)? 4 days all expenses paid + tip + vacation + fuck 1 dude, not 10 + nice hotel, etc.
    You would think that vacation would be appealing. But then the girl has been living on an island her entire life; it might not be that appealing to go to another island. Not sure. I have never gotten a girl for travel. I talked to one stunner about it. I think she would have said yes, but she didn't seem that enthusiastic.

    Well, you have to pay for her barfine every single day. Some might try to sneak out and get the entire barfine. Plus the girl normally will earn a daily wage between 180 to 350 pesos. Plus her lady drinks. Then her tip.

    Actually, she would only do 4 guys for your 4 days. She can do 10 if she does multiple short times. Then she probably will require more money.

  2. #23340
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Hey all. The more research I do on AC, the more convinced I will need a break from this shit hole of a town with nothing to do besides girls LOL. No OFFENSE intended.
    Right now if I'm going away to a Philippines beach I could choose form a shortlist of 4 girls that I'd love to take. But these are honed from a few years. Your one week vacation cannot afford to fail you.

    How about reducing the complexity of your requirement change your island holiday to a Luzon beach holiday or a place with direct flights from Clark. Allows buying tickets at short notice and the travel arrangements are less complicated.

    Philippines is an unreliable place. If something will go wrong it will. The girl that you meet via a dating site is just as likely to go radio silent the day you plan to leave and you have a pre-paid tix in her name only.

    For a first time visitor, I think for a first time visitor, get here on the ground. Less pressure on pulling off your arrangement. The more willing you are to splash cash, the more willing will be people here to rip you off.

    Enjoy this place. It's not too bad.

    BD.

  3. #23339
    Quote Originally Posted by IgoforAsian  [View Original Post]
    My advice is have fun in AC, and I do appreciate and understand the need for some beach / resort time also. I think it is maybe a 50/50 chance that you will find someone in AC that you click with and will be available to fly with you on short notice to Bohol with you.

    My suggestion is hit the dating sites, and chat up girls that are in the Visayas somewhere. Find a cutie there that you click with online that looks sufficiently hot and then offer to fly her out to Bohol to meet you for vacation. I have done this several times with cuties from Mindanao, flying them out to Cebu or Bohol. You will get much more GFE experience compared with a bar girl. I think there are many more cuties in Mindanao wanting to meet a foreigner because few foreigners go there. Plus, they will be less inhibited when you take them away to a nice resort away from the prying eyes of their relatives.

    In fairness to the girl make it clear from the beginning that you are interested in casual relationship only and make it clear you will provide good compensation, but do it in a discreet way so they don't feel paid.
    I'm nervous about the dating sites. Flying a girl out that MIGHT or might not be what she looks like irl is a scary thought!

    Pinalove / filipinacupid still the best ones to find the hotter girls??

  4. #23338
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Hey all. The more research I do on AC, the more convinced I will need a break from this shit hole of a town with nothing to do besides girls LOL. No OFFENSE intended.

    I've never actually mongered in Philippines before. I really don't can't gauge how likely this plan would work on a filipina.

    Could you guys please let me know the likelihood?

    -arrive by AC 11/15 night (Thursday night).

    -find me a stunner by Sunday & convince her to come out to Panglao Island (fly / leave Monday, return Thurs).

    -and I stay in AC from Thurs to Sat..
    My advice is have fun in AC, and I do appreciate and understand the need for some beach / resort time also. I think it is maybe a 50/50 chance that you will find someone in AC that you click with and will be available to fly with you on short notice to Bohol with you.

    My suggestion is hit the dating sites, and chat up girls that are in the Visayas somewhere. Find a cutie there that you click with online that looks sufficiently hot and then offer to fly her out to Bohol to meet you for vacation. I have done this several times with cuties from Mindanao, flying them out to Cebu or Bohol. You will get much more GFE experience compared with a bar girl. I think there are many more cuties in Mindanao wanting to meet a foreigner because few foreigners go there. Plus, they will be less inhibited when you take them away to a nice resort away from the prying eyes of their relatives.

    In fairness to the girl make it clear from the beginning that you are interested in casual relationship only and make it clear you will provide good compensation, but do it in a discreet way so they don't feel paid.

  5. #23337
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Your math doesn't add up. The girl would have have 15-20 drinks to equal one ST commission.

    More likely she doesnt want to go or go out with that person. Rejection hurts on both sides of the fence.
    Wrong,

    10 x lady drink commission= 1,500 pesos to the girl.

    Barfine at 2000 pesos is split with the bar 50/50 so 1. 000 pesos to the girl, same with 3000 pesos barfine,1,500 pesos to the girl.

    Walk into any of the top bars in Angeles and because of the severe lack of pretty / slim girls the very few girls that have got the looks and body are in extreme high demand for lady drinks, many girls constantly sitting drinking with punters throughout their 10 hour shifts.

    1 lady drink per hour puts the bargirl far ahead in monetary term than barfining, hence why most bargirls choose that route.

  6. #23336
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    It depends on your definition of a stunner and/or how much money you are willing to spend.

    If you are one of those people that think there are stunners on Pattaya's Beach Road, then it will be easy to find. But if your definition is high and think there only several acceptable girls in Atlantis, then it will be tough.

    If you're ethnically Korean, Chinese, or Japanese, then the stunners won't reject you for short time (if they don't have sponsors and are available). It all depends if the girls want to to travel. Obviously, some do, but some have a life and a routine in Angeles. This is where the money comes in. The stunners are able to get a barfine every single day. You might have to offer a tip.

    For cuties, check out Grand Dragon at 6 PM (and compete with the hordes of Koreans), Atlantis at 7 PM, or Club Ra (if Daddy's Girls are still around), or Midnite Cruiser. Sometimes cute girls will start their bargirl career as a cultural dancer at Midnite Cruiser, because the daily pay is good. But sometimes they initially won't barfine or they are cherry girls.
    Oh got it. I had heard of atlantis a million times but never grand dragon EDIT: do you mean Dragon Den? Can't find grand dragon online. I'd assume where koreans go, there should be more slimmer / whiter /"asian pretty" girls.

    I'm definitely a bit pickier. But yes, I'm definitely under the impression where id tip her every day she's gone.

    Honestly, I feel like this should be somewhat appealing for a girl (assuming she likes me)? 4 days all expenses paid + tip + vacation + fuck 1 dude, not 10 + nice hotel, etc.

    But idk if they think that way hahah.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like a plan, but I have seen some very cute girls (my opinion only) start to drift into Aqua around. 8 o'clock. I'the say the freelancers I've seen at Aqua are roughly equivalent to the better looking girls at the bars. The difference of course is no ladies drinks, no mamasans, no barfine, so it's all up to negotiations between you and the girls.

    GE.
    Oh sounds good. Will definitely check it out then. Since ill be staying at ABC anyways. Ill just check it out before heading to bars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I'll preface this by saying that I'm no longer a regular at AC. However, at my regular haunts I would struggle to find someone new who was sexually compatable enough and had great looks (in my books they can be mutually exclusive) that I would have 4 enjoyable days with her. There is always a huge risk that the girl you whisk away will become totally different once she has no competition and is difficult to return to sender.

    Perhaps I'm jaded but there is a good change this would happen:
    Valid. Appreciate the insight w/ your post. Totally legit, thanks for the perspective. it definitely adds an extra layer of complexity when selecting the lucky girl lol

  7. #23335
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Hey all. The more research I do on AC, the more convinced I will need a break from this shit hole of a town with nothing to do besides girls LOL. No OFFENSE intended.

    Could you guys please let me know the likelihood?

    -arrive by AC 11/15 night (Thursday night).

    -find me a stunner by Sunday & convince her to come out to Panglao Island (fly / leave Monday, return Thurs).

    Cheers.
    I'll preface this by saying that I'm no longer a regular at AC. However, at my regular haunts I would struggle to find someone new who was sexually compatable enough and had great looks (in my books they can be mutually exclusive) that I would have 4 enjoyable days with her. There is always a huge risk that the girl you whisk away will become totally different once she has no competition and is difficult to return to sender.

    Perhaps I'm jaded but there is a good change this would happen:

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    Just a post on a trip I am having to highlight some of the risks and rewards of taking a multi day / week trip with a BG.

    ....

  8. #23334
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Makes sense. Fucking / sleeping in a dump vs. A better hotel should definitely be a factor.

    When you say good looking freelancers, you mean better looking than the ones ID find at the gogo bars? And do you mean check out Aqua before trying hiso?

    So in order. I should be checking out gogo bars first (8-9 pm )?, if nothing I like, I go to AQUA (11-12 pm )?, if nothing I like I go to HISO (1-2 am )??
    Sounds like a plan, but I have seen some very cute girls (my opinion only) start to drift into Aqua around. 8 o'clock. I'the say the freelancers I've seen at Aqua are roughly equivalent to the better looking girls at the bars. The difference of course is no ladies drinks, no mamasans, no barfine, so it's all up to negotiations between you and the girls.

    GE.

  9. #23333
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Could you guys please let me know the likelihood?

    -arrive by AC 11/15 night (Thursday night).

    -find me a stunner by Sunday & convince her to come out to Panglao Island (fly / leave Monday, return Thurs).
    It depends on your definition of a stunner and/or how much money you are willing to spend.

    If you are one of those people that think there are stunners on Pattaya's Beach Road, then it will be easy to find. But if your definition is high and think there only several acceptable girls in Atlantis, then it will be tough.

    If you're ethnically Korean, Chinese, or Japanese, then the stunners won't reject you for short time (if they don't have sponsors and are available). It all depends if the girls want to to travel. Obviously, some do, but some have a life and a routine in Angeles. This is where the money comes in. The stunners are able to get a barfine every single day. You might have to offer a tip.

    For cuties, check out Grand Dragon at 6 PM (and compete with the hordes of Koreans), Atlantis at 7 PM, or Club Ra (if Daddy's Girls are still around), or Midnite Cruiser. Sometimes cute girls will start their bargirl career as a cultural dancer at Midnite Cruiser, because the daily pay is good. But sometimes they initially won't barfine or they are cherry girls.

  10. #23332
    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    The hottest Angeles girls can earn large by staying in the bar and accepting multiple high commission lady drinks without even asking or needing to go to where a punter stays.

    Yes brutal, but honest.
    Your math doesn't add up. The girl would have have 15-20 drinks to equal one ST commission.

    More likely she doesn’t want to go or go out with that person. Rejection hurts on both sides of the fence.

  11. #23331
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Hey all. The more research I do on AC, the more convinced I will need a break from this shit hole of a town with nothing to do besides girls LOL. No OFFENSE intended.

    I've never actually mongered in Philippines before. I really don't can't gauge how likely this plan would work on a filipina.

    Could you guys please let me know the likelihood?

    -arrive by AC 11/15 night (Thursday night).

    -find me a stunner by Sunday & convince her to come out to Panglao Island (fly / leave Monday, return Thurs).

    -and I stay in AC from Thurs to Sat.

    I'm 27, asian-american, objectively good looking & fashionable, in good shape.

    Plan to stay at ABC hotel in AC & a 5 start hotel in Panglao.

    Just really really needing an actual vacation on top of wanting to monger. & I want to try philippines this time around since my last trip was to thailand / bkk.
    Cheers.
    Based on your previous reports or lack of them it would be very difficult to answer any generic questions that you have and have been asking to your likings.

    Just go and find out.

  12. #23330

    NEED Beach / Water time

    Hey all. The more research I do on AC, the more convinced I will need a break from this shit hole of a town with nothing to do besides girls LOL. No OFFENSE intended.

    I've never actually mongered in Philippines before. I really don't can't gauge how likely this plan would work on a filipina.

    Could you guys please let me know the likelihood?

    -arrive by AC 11/15 night (Thursday night).

    -find me a stunner by Sunday & convince her to come out to Panglao Island (fly / leave Monday, return Thurs).

    -and I stay in AC from Thurs to Sat.

    I'm 27, asian-american, objectively good looking & fashionable, in good shape.

    Plan to stay at ABC hotel in AC & a 5 start hotel in Panglao.

    Just really really needing an actual vacation on top of wanting to monger. & I want to try philippines this time around since my last trip was to thailand / bkk.

    Cheers.

  13. #23329
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    And do you mean check out Aqua before trying hiso?

    So in order. I should be checking out gogo bars first (8-9 pm )?, if nothing I like, I go to AQUA (11-12 pm )?, if nothing I like I go to HISO (1-2 am )??
    If you are staying at ABC, probably first swing by at Aqua in-house and have a drink there.

    For the rest of your questions gogo, Aqua, Hiso there is no correct answer. What works one day will fail the next. Just go with what you like. Visit a few bars and find the one that has your kind of music and your kind of girls. If nothing on gogo, ten try HiSo and / or Aqua.

    Last week was a combination of dating sites, GF, massage place and a wechat girl. For me, my week can be a mix of all. Although I haven't been in an actual gogo since August, I know that this week coming I will. I'm here for different experiences and I know I feel like hitting some bars this week.

    I will send you a DM.

    BD.

  14. #23328
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    Two things. First, just staying at ABC will make you more appealing to the best looking girls in the bars, and you'll be more likely to be able to hook up with the hottest ones. Even more so if you promise them a drink or two at Aqua before you hit the room. Point two: there are lots of good looking freelancers who patronize Aqua, and you might want to start your night there rather than hitting the clubs.

    GE.
    Makes sense. Fucking / sleeping in a dump vs. A better hotel should definitely be a factor.

    When you say good looking freelancers, you mean better looking than the ones ID find at the gogo bars? And do you mean check out Aqua before trying hiso?

    So in order. I should be checking out gogo bars first (8-9 pm )?, if nothing I like, I go to AQUA (11-12 pm )?, if nothing I like I go to HISO (1-2 am )??

  15. #23327
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    Two things. First, just staying at ABC will make you more appealing to the best looking girls in the bars, and you'll be more likely to be able to hook up with the hottest ones. Even more so if you promise them a drink or two at Aqua before you hit the room. Point two: there are lots of good looking freelancers who patronize Aqua, and you might want to start your night there rather than hitting the clubs.

    GE.
    It is true girls ask where you are staying. It is primarily to gauze money potential or to see if you are a cheapo. Even the hottest ones if you give tight amount of money will come with you if they like you even if you are staying at a dump. Remember they there to earn money through sex. They practically have been in every hotel there. To make them happy is not the reason you are there. It is not to impress your date.

    Bottom line is they do decide who they will go with irrespective of the hotel you stay. Guests are allowed to go to Aqua. So no advantage there.

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