Angeles City

[Bushes]

Guess applying his forefarther's NZ strtegy did not pan out well for him in PI.

The Kiwi was very active in local affairs, and the allegations paint him as an overbearing colonialist who insisted on overstaying his welcome after he was declared "persona non grata" and designated for removal. It also states that he owned land and got into a property dispute with a barangay councilor. It sounds a lot like AV, as it was his last known destination; he was beefing with the government and owned property. The fella ignored many warning signs before the Flips whacked him. Owning land is one of the fastest ways to get into disputes with the natives and end up whacked. All consulates strongly advise against circumventing the prohibition on foreign ownership of land precisely because of the number foreigners who end up taking a dirt nap over land ownership.

[PinaLove]

f that stuff that the vendors sell comes from China through the port in Mindanao. And they don't work for themselves as I always thought. They sell that shit for some type of Muslim cartel. All I know is one thing. You won't catch me fucking with those vendors!

Now you are making my grey matter work. I recall being at the markets and did notice that many of the stalls were Muslim run. They refer to the counterfeit cigarettes as "Muslim" cigarettes. So I guess that is a big money ring.

[Chocha Monger]

Tend to agree Sammon as this happens too many times (statistically IMHO) in the Philippines and AC more so. See this link (lots you can chose from).

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=11897039

While not AC this is another and no one really charged. IE the person who paid the gunmen (who were arrested fairly quickly) never been found. Too many get away with murder literally.

The Kiwi was very active in local affairs, and the allegations paint him as an overbearing colonialist who insisted on overstaying his welcome after he was declared "persona non grata" and designated for removal. It also states that he owned land and got into a property dispute with a barangay councilor. It sounds a lot like AV, as it was his last known destination; he was beefing with the government and owned property. The fella ignored many warning signs before the Flips whacked him. Owning land is one of the fastest ways to get into disputes with the natives and end up whacked. All consulates strongly advise against circumventing the prohibition on foreign ownership of land precisely because of the number foreigners who end up taking a dirt nap over land ownership.

[Sxxxx]

..................................... A 1 week monger in AC is unlikely to get into trouble if he keeps a low profile, doesnt get into arguments at bars or with girls and leaves his valuables in the hotel safe. At night, best not to walk along the perimeter road. Take a trike.

Correct. Fly in, get what you want, fly out. ST, ST.

The elderly gent shot in the back of head, Garfields, was a first time tourist. Some of us, talk about the dark side of the Phils, to help newbies understand, it looks like the Disney Land of sex, but there is a dark side to it too. I have survived unscathed from 1974 to today, respecting that.

Fun, fun, if it isn't fun, forget it. For me, Phils has been fun (ST, no residency).

[Engine Driver]

Since we are on the subject. I was sitting around the other day talking to some buddies in Thailand. They live part time in AC and part time in Pattaya. One said that he was doing some kind of job in Kokomos. He got tired of the vendors harassing people in front so he ran them off. He is a big enough guy. He said they did not come around for a couple of days.

Then some guy showed up needing to see him. The lady would not tell him who it was. She just kept saying you need to come now. He went out and it was a Muslim guy. He only said a few words, "Don't fuck with my vendors. " My buddy said this guy is some well known killer. He told the guy yes sir and never saw him again. Evidently all of that stuff that the vendors sell comes from China through the port in Mindanao. And they don't work for themselves as I always thought. They sell that shit for some type of Muslim cartel. All I know is one thing. You won't catch me fucking with those vendors!

One street vendor came to me at Kokomo's and tried to sell me an electric drill and angle grinder. As if some tourists are going to buy those items? Obviously they do!

Everyone is organised into some gangster run collective. The street vendors, beggar kids, stall holders. I'm sure the stall holders need to pay extortion money each month to the local mafia don. No different to any other developing country.

A 1 week monger in AC is unlikely to get into trouble if he keeps a low profile, doesn’t get into arguments at bars or with girls and leaves his valuables in the hotel safe. At night, best not to walk along the perimeter road. Take a trike.

[Mr Enternational]

Since we are on the subject. I was sitting around the other day talking to some buddies in Thailand. They live part time in AC and part time in Pattaya. One said that he was doing some kind of job in Kokomos. He got tired of the vendors harassing people in front so he ran them off. He is a big enough guy. He said they did not come around for a couple of days.

Then some guy showed up needing to see him. The lady would not tell him who it was. She just kept saying you need to come now. He went out and it was a Muslim guy. He only said a few words, "Don't fuck with my vendors. " My buddy said this guy is some well known killer. He told the guy yes sir and never saw him again. Evidently all of that stuff that the vendors sell comes from China through the port in Mindanao. And they don't work for themselves as I always thought. They sell that shit for some type of Muslim cartel. All I know is one thing. You won't catch me fucking with those vendors!

[Wicked Roger]

Must be some rare occurrence, since recent evidence suggests that the Philippines has killed its way to a much higher level of safety:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmo...e-philippines/#41 dafaff285 f.

Regarding the New Zealander killed, reading in a little further suggests that foreigners are well-advised not to settle on Biliran. Didn't AV report buying an outrigger banca and fishing nets on Biliran a couple years ago? Anybody heard from him recently?

Generally many I know and speak with feel safer due to the new president. Always make me laugh to read about his high approval ratings yet much of the oppress (who more in league with the richer class of society) say how unpopular he is etc LOL.

Foreigners who live in small in communities IMHO stand out like a sore thumb and if they then start to get 'involved' with local families or clans then the situation can't be good for the person.

As a few posters have said here before you keep your head down and out of politics. One foreigner who had a business in Visayas asked some questions at a meeting about the council's use of the budget funds etc (IE where was it going hence pointing to corruption) and suddenly he was charged with [CodeWord123]. Took him 11 months to get of jail when police 'finally realised' she was still a virgin and he had been set up. Luckily he is still alive.

[Soapy Smith]

Well here is a random Filipino crime that made it to worldstar the other day.

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android...XXZxgiyy0s6Xtp

Must be some rare occurrence, since recent evidence suggests that the Philippines has killed its way to a much higher level of safety:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmo...e-philippines/#41 dafaff285 f.

Regarding the New Zealander killed, reading in a little further suggests that foreigners are well-advised not to settle on Biliran. Didn't AV report buying an outrigger banca and fishing nets on Biliran a couple years ago? Anybody heard from him recently?

[Wicked Roger]

I believe there is more to this story than a random robbery. It maybe a hit arranged by somebody to make it to look like robbery. Most likely culprit could be ex wife, present wife, present GF, past GF, business associates or just by rubbing on wrong people..

Tend to agree Sammon as this happens too many times (statistically IMHO) in the Philippines and AC more so. See this link (lots you can chose from).

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=11897039

While not AC this is another and no one really charged. IE the person who paid the gunmen (who were arrested fairly quickly) never been found. Too many get away with murder literally.

[Bushes]

Not that it really matters, but I agree with you as opposed the wolf criers. There was probably some history there and probably a previous altercation of sorts.

I believe there is more to this story than a random robbery. It maybe a hit arranged by somebody to make it to look like robbery. Most likely culprit could be ex wife, present wife, present GF, past GF, business associates or just by rubbing on wrong people.

These kind of hits happen to people living in Philippines. Not casual tourists unless they are at the wrong place at the wrong time. Even then murders are rare. Most likely getting beat up. One time a moto guy in AC told me he can take me to a casa to find real pretty girls. I told him to bring to my hotel. Even in ermita I went to a casa couple of times picked a girl and took her to my hotel. Still looking back it was a risky thing to do.

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[Sammon]

Yes. They are not interested in how compliant the victim may or may not be. They sneak up from behind and blow the foreigner's brains out before he realizes anything is amiss. Chocolate Dave was one of the few foreigners to escape a sneak attack because the shooter only wounded him with the first shot from a 22 pistol and he was able to run like hell. The best a monger can hope for is that the shooter is a bad shot, which may give him a chance to run if he is not a lame duck or too fat. All bets are off if the monger needs a Zimmer frame to make his escape.

I believe there is more to this story than a random robbery. It maybe a hit arranged by somebody to make it to look like robbery. Most likely culprit could be ex wife, present wife, present GF, past GF, business associates or just by rubbing on wrong people.

These kind of hits happen to people living in Philippines. Not casual tourists unless they are at the wrong place at the wrong time. Even then murders are rare. Most likely getting beat up. One time a moto guy in AC told me he can take me to a casa to find real pretty girls. I told him to bring to my hotel. Even in ermita I went to a casa couple of times picked a girl and took her to my hotel. Still looking back it was a risky thing to do.

[D Cups]

When I go to Batangas / Sabang later this year from Manila I will be spending the night in Batangas first. This will be my first time to both locations.

It would take you 4-5 hours to get from Angeles to Batangas Port by taxi. Cost is negotiable, but I reckon around 5,000 PHP would be reasonable. Leave at 9. 00 am and you should be at the port by 1. 00-2. 00 pm. If you travel by bus, you will need to transfer. If you have a taxi, best to go straight through.

[Sxxxx]

Just go to the travel desk at Margarita Station on Fields Avenue. They will arrange a clean car with reliable driver for you. Pricing will be fair. You can also book on line. I've used them many times and it's a very good service.

I agree, their price is fair, and their service is good.

[Engine Driver]

Anyone have a realiable guy they use for transportation around Angeles?

I have someone I use all the time to get from Manila to Angeles, but since he's based in Manila, he's not really available in Angeles for shorter trips.

Just go to the travel desk at Margarita Station on Fields Avenue. They will arrange a clean car with reliable driver for you. Pricing will be fair. You can also book on line. I've used them many times and it's a very good service.

[Mr Enternational]

I just find it hard to believe that Filipino crimes would be so random. Those that live here know of foreigners who flash cash, are lazy with how they discuss their personal security and generally create a problem for themselves. The word does get passed around and people get hurt.

Dress down, don't wear jewellery, be nice to your GF and her family.

Well here is a random Filipino crime that made it to worldstar the other day.

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android...XXZxgiyy0s6Xtp