Angeles City

[Lulle]

I've read a lot in this (AC) and the Manila threads, but I'm confused (and lost in discussions that veer to Indonesia and other topics).

On Burgos Street, it the bar fine is now 3500-4000, then you pay as much again to the girl, negotiated up front.

In AC, the bar fine averages 3500. But does she also negotiate 3000-4000 up front, or is such a tip not expected, just 500-1000 for good effort?

[Chocha Monger]

Good to see a realistic post interspersing the tales of non-stop condomless debauchery with AC's "top models" LOL.

I think it's becoming more common that the girl clarifies this point before going out, happens quite often to me. I tend to prefer lower mileage so perhaps my sample is skewed. Hygiene seems also to be stressing condoms in their mandatory lectures. Condom or no condom is a personal choice; you may not catch the big one going sans French letters, but AC can certainly put you out of action with some other nasties.

Catching something fatal in your cock and succumbing prematurely to the Reaper is an occupational hazard for all mongers not just the bareback gang. A certain percentage of condoms will fail and mongers will be infected. On the other hand, mongers lacking adequate immunity could just as easily expire due to infection from a particularly virulent strain of Covid-19 caught during a night of condom-filled debauchery with an infectious LBFM.

[NGenTot3]

Hi guys,

How is the holiday going to affect the amount of girls in Angeles City?

I wonder if most of the girls will be going back to their provinces.

Thanks for your inputs.

[NapaSlapper]

It's the evening dates or overnighters where the true value lies in Southeast Asia. I prefer longer "date-like" encounters over the "wham-bam-thank-you ma'am" of the brothels.

A date with Kimber in Toronto is $5000 for 10 hours. 24 hours with Madison Winter in Toronto is $10,000.

My 3-week trip to Jakarta; Bali, Manila & Angeles with business class plane tickets and 4-5 star hotels is costing around $8,000. Add an overnighter in Jakarta at $300 and I'm still ahead of a that single date with Winter.

Overnighters in the USA run from $3000 to $6000.

And that ya'll is why I save my money and travel.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

Not sure you can compare the quality of girls like Madison winters to what's available in Asia.

Gone are the days of the better looking girls of Angeles staying long time for cheap, why because the better looking girls are in extremely high demand and charge by the hour, why fuck one guy for 10 hours for 5,000 p when she can fuck 5 guys at 5,000 p per hour = 25,000 p per day.

Yes one can find a freelance old homeless girl in Angeles for long time with cheaper price but who would travel around the world for such.

[D Cups]

You ask where else can guys can get sucked and fucked like in angeles, Well prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Angeles just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified ads, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.

Let's remember the cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7-10 days would be a minimum 4,000-5,000 usd when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with 4,000-5,000 usd one could fuck near models every day for the same 7-10 days duration in Europe.

The Rest of Asia, just like Angeles pros exist in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos at similar if not less cost like for like.

Now on to prostitutes supposed orgasms, just because a girl is moaning and pulling fuck me harder faces does not mean she is not play acting, in truth she could just as well be thinking what she is going to cook her kids for dinner while she's moaning.

On to tight pinay pussies, never found pinay prostitutes to be tighter or looser than pros of any other nation, considering by the very nature of their profession most of these girls have fucked thousands of guys, have had multiple child births so not sure anything left to be tight about their pussies..

Hello Napa,

What I meant was where do you find a girl who will bring over three girlfriends to massage you and go swimming and then let one of them blow you?

I have been to the FKKs in Europe and they are ok. I have been to the other SEA places you mentioned and more (except Laos) and they are ok but the group thing does not happen.

As for her orgasms she has got to be a prime time porn actress to pull that one off. If she is faking it she is better than 99% of the other 600-some girls I have been with. But at 23 she is fairly new to the game and did not have any kids.

[SeaTraveler]

For those that have to fly half way across the globe at great expense might see it differently though, and when all costs factored in flights, hotels, insurances etc those same under 100 usd girls for the close bye guys could work out to be 4-500 usd each for the guys from us, uk, europe once all expenses taken into account.

Let's remember the cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7-10 days would be a minimum 4,000-5,000 usd when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with 4,000-5,000 usd one could fuck near models every day for the same 7-10 days duration in Europe.

It's the evening dates or overnighters where the true value lies in Southeast Asia. I prefer longer "date-like" encounters over the "wham-bam-thank-you ma'am" of the brothels.

A date with Kimber in Toronto is $5000 for 10 hours. 24 hours with Madison Winter in Toronto is $10,000.

My 3-week trip to Jakarta; Bali, Manila & Angeles with business class plane tickets and 4-5 star hotels is costing around $8,000. Add an overnighter in Jakarta at $300 and I'm still ahead of a that single date with Winter.

Overnighters in the USA run from $3000 to $6000.

And that ya'll is why I save my money and travel.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

[WestCoast1]

Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.

Hey! What about me on my next trip?

Bruh. Got you covered. One of my favoritas.

[D Cups]

Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.

Thanks. Doc. Trying to send you a PM for details.

[Dg8787]

Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.

Hey! What about me on my next trip?

[Docwiltro]

In AC her tits may be small but if you look hard enough you can find a B cup or C or even D if you are willing to lower your facial and other body standards. I used to have some regulars there but they moved on and have to be replaced by new talent which is readily available. Cheers.

Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.

[NapaSlapper]

I go to AC prolly 3 or four tines a year for quite some time now. It is quite convenient and cheap for me to get there as I live on Negros Island in PI and it is a short flight to Cebu then Clark. I was AC in the 1980's heydeys (with my Uncle Sam) which I recall with great fondness and much more enthusiasm. It is a shadow of what it was then but it is still a desirable mongering destination despite increased costs. The Korean effect, etc.

Look at all the places that have disappeared, fellas. Surabaya's sin city in Indonesia. Curacao's Happy Camp in the Caribbean. EDSA in Manila. The casas in Manila and Cebu. Et cetera. I have been to all of these Classic locations and many more which have vanished like a fart in the wind. So, count your blessings, fellas. You can still get laid here for under a hundred bucks and her pussy is so tight and wet and willing.

The last girl I was with there, from Angel Witch, came three times while I was fucking her. No shit, man. Her face was prolly a 6 but her body is a solid 8. Damage was 4 K. And then she brought three gfs over from Angel Witch and they took turns massaging me, and swimming in Orchid Inn's pool. Then one of her gfs, a 7, starts to blow me quite expertly so I gave her 2 K. Where else in the world does this happen? Please tell me and I will go there.

In AC her tits may be small but if you look hard enough you can find a B cup or C or even D if you are willing to lower your facial and other body standards. I used to have some regulars there but they moved on and have to be replaced by new talent which is readily available. Cheers.

Glad to hear that you can still find some enjoyment in todays angeles city, I think the secret is to live either in angeles or somewhere near bye in order to keep costs per girl low.

For those that have to fly half way across the globe at great expense might see it differently though, and when all costs factored in flights, hotels, insurances etc those same under 100 usd girls for the close bye guys could work out to be 4-500 usd each for the guys from us, uk, europe once all expenses taken into account.

In truth I would say that by the time one takes out the better looking angeles girls which are mainly drinks only girls, cherrie girls and asian only girls then what's left for the westerner is low quality and even at under 100 usd is extortionate in price.

New years eve this year which is the peak day in peak season saw many western bars with no customers many of these bars also closed down well before midnight so I'm not sure of your claim that angeles is a desired location is in the slightest true for many punters.

You ask where else can guys can get sucked and fucked like in angeles, Well prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Angeles just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified ads, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.

Let's remember the cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7-10 days would be a minimum 4,000-5,000 usd when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with 4,000-5,000 usd one could fuck near models every day for the same 7-10 days duration in Europe.

The Rest of Asia, just like Angeles pros exist in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos at similar if not less cost like for like.

My take is that Angeles is what it is, I find the guys that are complaining the least out of my Angeles friends are those that live there already and are willing to greatly lower their expectations / standards when it comes to available girls.

Now on to prostitutes supposed orgasms, just because a girl is moaning and pulling fuck me harder faces does not mean she is not play acting, in truth she could just as well be thinking what she is going to cook her kids for dinner while she's moaning.

On to tight pinay pussies, never found pinay prostitutes to be tighter or looser than pros of any other nation, considering by the very nature of their profession most of these girls have fucked thousands of guys, have had multiple child births so not sure anything left to be tight about their pussies.

Warm wet pinay pussy, this is where I worry, many pinay pros have pinoy husbands, pinoy boyfriends, pinoy lovers, some girls have all 3 at the same time add on a few paid customers per day and that warm wet feeling pinay pussy might just be a few fluid ounces of newly inserted sperm from multiple doners just before she turned up at ones door and not in fact that she excited to see us.

Anyways each to their own, if some are happy in Angeles then I'm happy for them.

[D Cups]

I go to AC prolly 3 or four tines a year for quite some time now. It is quite convenient and cheap for me to get there as I live on Negros Island in PI and it is a short flight to Cebu then Clark. I was AC in the 1980's heydeys (with my Uncle Sam) which I recall with great fondness and much more enthusiasm. It is a shadow of what it was then but it is still a desirable mongering destination despite increased costs. The Korean effect, etc.

Look at all the places that have disappeared, fellas. Surabaya's sin city in Indonesia. Curacao's Happy Camp in the Caribbean. EDSA in Manila. The casas in Manila and Cebu. Et cetera. I have been to all of these Classic locations and many more which have vanished like a fart in the wind. So, count your blessings, fellas. You can still get laid here for under a hundred bucks and her pussy is so tight and wet and willing.

The last girl I was with there, from Angel Witch, came three times while I was fucking her. No shit, man. Her face was prolly a 6 but her body is a solid 8. Damage was 4 K. And then she brought three gfs over from Angel Witch and they took turns massaging me, and swimming in Orchid Inn's pool. Then one of her gfs, a 7, starts to blow me quite expertly so I gave her 2 K. Where else in the world does this happen? Please tell me and I will go there.

In AC her tits may be small but if you look hard enough you can find a B cup or C or even D if you are willing to lower your facial and other body standards. I used to have some regulars there but they moved on and have to be replaced by new talent which is readily available. Cheers.

[Pute Nut]

Good to see a realistic post interspersing the tales of non-stop condomless debauchery with AC's "top models" LOL.

No condom, I'm sure its possible with some girls, probably the type of girls that are not very popular and don't have too much choice, popular girls might have choices so prefer customers that want to fuck only with condom, as I have previously said I am super careful with pros so insist on using condoms.

I think it's becoming more common that the girl clarifies this point before going out, happens quite often to me. I tend to prefer lower mileage so perhaps my sample is skewed. Hygiene seems also to be stressing condoms in their mandatory lectures. Condom or no condom is a personal choice; you may not catch the big one going sans French letters, but AC can certainly put you out of action with some other nasties.

[Goferring]

But then came along the changes in law and the bar raid years where multiple bars had been raided, multiple bar owners arrested, multiple mama arrested, multiple bars never allowed to open again, why, because they were set up in sting operations with foreigners working for the police handing over marked money in exchange for bar fines, once the marked money had been received by the bar the raiding team moved in.

So now days when one pays the large pesos early work release to a bar it is strictly to allow the girl to leave the bar early, it sure does not mean one is paying to have sex with said girl..

It's surprising that this didn't lead to the end of the prepaid pricing in AC and introduce a barfine+girl's fee model like Burgos etc. That would have also seen AC's poor performance complaints disappear over night too.

I remember straight after the raids in Subic that the mamas and barstaff would not even discuss EWRs or fines, saying that that was a private discussion between the guy and the girl. Unfortunately, this lead to immediate price rises as girls decided that they were worth much more than they were previously paid. I'm not sure if the payment discussion is still with the girl or if it's returned to being defined by the bar.

Enjoy. G.

[NapaSlapper]

It seems to me that the ridiculous barfine prices should drive a healthy market for sneak outs and freelancers. Any insight on freelancer pricing? Also, do AC bars still let you get money back if the girl doesn't deliver?

I hate getting chicks who insist on condoms. Have they become more or less prevalent nowadays?

Yes indeed some of the quoted girl prices are indeed ridiculous.

Sneak outs from bars, yes its possible to meet girls in their own time but don't try to get a girls number in the bar unless one wants to face problems with security, best way is to barfine said girl the 1st time from the bar and then get her number back at the hotel before she leaves and see if girl would be willing to meet in her own time maybe on her day off.

Online girls, I am generally not a fan of Angeles online prostitutes, why because of the general low quality and all the mucking around until you get the one in a hundred that actually looks like her online profile photos, or for the girl that one earlier chatted to on cam and made visiting arrangements only for a completely different girl to turn up at the door, usually 5/10 years older and 40/50 kg heavier, all in all too much wasted time for my liking.

Money back for non performers, Yes multiple years ago this was sometimes possible.

But then came along the changes in law and the bar raid years where multiple bars had been raided, multiple bar owners arrested, multiple mama arrested, multiple bars never allowed to open again, why, because they were set up in sting operations with foreigners working for the police handing over marked money in exchange for bar fines, once the marked money had been received by the bar the raiding team moved in.

So now days when one pays the large pesos early work release to a bar it is strictly to allow the girl to leave the bar early, it sure does not mean one is paying to have sex with said girl.

Try to return a girl to the bar for any reason will have the owner or mama firmly advise that prostitution in the Phil's is highly illegal and comes under the human trafficing laws which carries a mandatory jail sentence of 20 years without parole for the bar owner or the punter caught in prostitution activity, therefore the bar will insist they only accepted payment for early work release of the girl and definitely not to have sex with the girl as that would be highly illegal, so no refunds given as that would be admitting to prostitution.

No condom, I'm sure its possible with some girls, probably the type of girls that are not very popular and don't have too much choice, popular girls might have choices so prefer customers that want to fuck only with condom, as I have previously said I am super careful with pros so insist on using condoms.