Angeles City

**RakSopheni** · 06-05-23 09:27

Originally Posted by ATexGuy [View Original Post]

I do not believe I have visited any place quite like it other than Jakarta. Unfortunately, I am not all that attracted to Filipinas and found Angeles City to be a shithole, so it wasn't any place I wanted to stay for several days.

Great report, thank you. I'm wondering what you found similar to Jakarta?

**ATexGuy** · 06-05-23 05:38

I had a recent opportunity to visit the Philippines and decided to spend my time in Angeles City.

I arrived in Manila late in the evening and decided to stay overnight at the Hyatt. Getting through immigration and baggage claim was fairly quick and easy. I had downloaded the Grab app after learning that Uber does not do business in the Philippines. Locating my Grab driver was somewhat of a hassle, but the drive to the Hyatt was fairly quick. If I were staying in Manila to visit the Makate area, this hotel would have been a good choice. The lounge had an amazing breakfast and the hotel was beautiful and in a very nice area.

Getting from Manila to Angeles City is kind of a hassle unless you want to take a bus from the airport. I had no interest in taking the bus and had the concierge arrange for door to door transportation to the ABC Hotel. It was somewhat pricey but not outrageous and worth the convenience especially considering how hot and humid it was.

Given the reviews of ABC, I decided to book a two bedroom suite for myself and my friend. ABC is not necessarily cheap, but the rooms are very spacious and meticulously clean. I was not impressed with the food at the hotel or the restaurant service, but housekeeping was great. I never found the Aqua club all that busy and never saw any hot girls there. ABC is a fairly short walk from walking street, but the sidewalks are terrible and you have to be careful not to get run over by a trike. It did not appear that pedestrians have the right away in this city.

I checked out all of the bars on walking street and was only really impressed with XS. One observation that I had was that the area had a very strong Korean presence. I was the only Caucasian man in just about every club I went to. I did see some older Brits and Aussies walking the hotel with their young Filipinas, but I didn't see many. I was told by some bar girls that some of the bars are owned by Koreans and many live in Angeles City. What was once an area with a strong American presence from Clark Air Force Base, has really transitioned into an area supported by Korean and Chinese tourists. I do not think I have heard that Gangnam Style played so much since it became a hit in the USA. Must be the Korean guys love that song or seeing the bar girls dance to it LOL.

Of all the monger destinations that I have visited, Angeles City was the most unique in many ways. First, I found most of the girls had babies and most of the Filipinas were tiny. What these mommies wear in the club tends to cover their mommy marks and their little boobs. A friendly Aussie I met in one club told me he lived in AC and offered his advice. He told me 14 out of 15 girls in any club is a mommy and probably has a husband or boyfriend. He suggested that I always buy the girl a drink before paying a barfine and ask to see her breast and her tummy. He even suggested that I tell the mamasan that I did not want any girl that was a mommy. I also noticed that most of the girls I encountered didn't wear much makeup and probably didn't spend too much time on their hair and nails either. Not a dealbreaker for me, but I notice when a girl has chipped up nail polish on her fingers and toes.

On my first night I found a somewhat attractive girl walking outside of the clubs and I asked her where she worked. She told me that she worked at baccara and encouraged me to follow her back to the club if I wanted to barfine her. She was not smoking hot, but she was attractive and didn't have mommy damage despite having two babies. Since my friend was suffering from jet lag and did not come out with me, I decide to bring him a girl. I believe I paid 4000 to barfine the girl from baccara for 3 hours and then headed over to XS. When we walked in the bar all of the girls were standing on stage waiting to get selected. I ended up selecting three more girls to take back to the hotel. I believe I paid 5000 per girl for longtime. I escorted the four girls back to the hotel and woke my friend up and invited him to select one of the four girls. He picked a girl and I had the other three go into my room for my first foursome. No need for details, but once finished, I sent the girls home and didn't care to keep them overnight given how exhausted I was and that I don't sleep too well with a strange girl next to me much less 3. I debated keeping one or two, but good sleep was more important than sex given how little sleep I had over the last 48 hours.

The next morning my friend and I took a walk and found an amazing little breakfast place a 10 minute walk from the ABC. I got a text from the first girl from baccara and invited her back to the hotel. She arrived back around 11 am and stayed til about 4 pm. We had a late lunch and I let her go to work while I went back to sleep. Later that night I went out and started checking all the bars to see if I could find any hot girls. I went to a Korean bar and the talent was weak. I saw a tiny Filipina that I had seen the night before. She had turned down the Aussie guy that prior night, but agreed to leave with me. I paid her barfine and right after another attractive girl returned to the club and I barfined her too. I took both back to my hotel, but instead of doing a threesome, I had one girl sit in the living area and took the other one into my room. After I finished with the first girl, I sent her on her way and brought the second girl into my room. I did not keep the second girl overnight and sent her away after finishing with her as well.

I now know the appeal of Angeles City for those that visit. Not one girl asked me to use a condom and not one girl ever asked me to pull out. While the bar girls are not real beauties, they are super cheap and are incredibly submissive. I do not believe I have visited any place quite like it other than Jakarta. Unfortunately, I am not all that attracted to Filipinas and found Angeles City to be a shithole, so it wasn't any place I wanted to stay for several days. Plus, I was eager to get over to Saigon to see what Vietnam had for me. I took the doxycycline a few days prior to leaving for Manila like many on this forum suggested and I took it for a week after.

So would I go back to Angeles City? Maybe but probably not. If I want cheap sex, it is much easier to go to Tijuana and get a room at cascada for the night and pull girls from Hong Kong all night. Plus, I find latinas to be much more attractive than Filipinas. Flying to the other side of the world does not offer enough value to justify that extremely long flight and the girls just are not that hot in my opinion. If I was Korean or Chinese guy and had an ugly Korean or Chinese wife, it would make sense to fly to Manila for some filthy sex with these bar girls. For an American to fly to the Philippines these days is just not worth it. The flight is brutal, Angles City is a shithole, and the girls are not that hot.

**NapaSlapper** · 06-05-23 02:29

Originally Posted by Locamotive [View Original Post]

This is typical for newbies, military or not. These guys have been in pussy prison all their lives and when they come to S. E. A. It blows their minds. Its worse than a kid in a candy store. You mean for 100 bucks or less these girls will go home with me and give me GFE and treat me as I'm a long lost love. Some. Yes they will. Its a change of thought that some just cannot handle. When I first went to work in 2008 I knew nothing about this world. I sat in hotel first 2 months and just concentrated on my job. Work friends were like dude if you get out their they will be on you like white on rice. At 50 years old I'm like you fuckers are crazy. They finally drag me out to Greenbelt one night. I was a fish out of water. Table after table of girls grinning like a possum. At first I could not believe they were looking at me. Took one home later 23 I think and after the deed I think I just stared at her most of the night. Coming from US where I was always told you getting women like this has long past you by. Its a culture shock and it can freak you out. Maybe not like back then as so much more internet exposure, but being there vs online are two different things. Military guys are just nave and some do get in trouble, but they will learn like we all did.

Have to fully agree that most newbies to angeles fly in from pussy prison (or real prison) and think all their birthdays have arrived together, they settle for mainly older, fatter, plain janes that are single mums to multiple kids from multiple fathers and because the girls they can attract in angeles are a bit better than the one toothed 50 year old homeless crack head they are used to fucking in their home towns a new paradise has been found and go on to boast online at what a stud they are in Angeles.

Last weekend got chatting to a guy from America in his early 50's sitting on the next table with his lady having food in envy, he had the biggest smile on his face I have seen in years, he was telling me what a great place Angeles is for stunning women, what great opportunities he had found in his new discovery, in truth he was sitting next to mad Mary, a street hustler that has 9 kids and multiple grand kids and looks like she needs a good wash, not here to bash, the guy was happy is what counts but when I hear reports of my girl was a 8,9,10 last night in reality the girl might have been a mad mary.

**Dg8787** · 06-02-23 20:54

Originally Posted by JbLife [View Original Post]

So, I'm late 30's guy, not tall or great looking in my own mind to western standards. Got a bit of a gut (but working on it). First time I went to AC was 2012 or so. Probably went back 20 times since then. Alot of that was helped by loving in a East Asian country for work so no 20+ hour flying time to get there.

I think I have barfined a single girl in all those trips. I personally can't stand the bars, not even in the US or east Asia. I just don't particularly like being out in big clubs or places like that.

Anyway I've always had a good time and it really all goes back to the first trip I took. Before I left I was on DIA chatting to women in the area.

I found one, she was cute enough about 24-25 at the time great in bed, really knew how to throw it back. Next trip she introduced me to her sister. Another great time. Let me fast forward to the this year 2023. Saw the second sister again and have been chatting with her since I got back in January. Come next February I am going to complete the set in the time between 2012 and 2023 I got with 4 of 6 sister and next year I will see little sisters 5 and 6 in this family. A 21 yea old with 1 baby and a 23 year old with no kids. Plus the second sister who I keep telling is my Mamasan is going to find some more girls in the barangay who want to earn 2 k pesos, a meal and some time in an Air conditioned room.

I know its 2023 now and a long time has passed but, these girls are very trusting, if you find a girl and ask about her friends or if she has family she will probably hook you up. Plus now you have Tinder. Once you get the hard-core pros out of the way it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Nothing like the PH Friends and Family plan.

6 of 6 would be quite a feat! That's a full house. Very difficult to do as usually the ages range over so many years and the older ones are married or just not so desirable. And to find that many sisters within a doable age range is heaven sent.

I have 3 of 5. #4 and #5 are out of the question as they are quite older. But have had 8 of their first cousins.

Recently meet 1 of 7 sisters. She will bring one sister over the next time but the odds of all of them are slim to none.

If all 6 are still doable line them all up for me!

**Card Boy** · 06-02-23 16:10

Originally Posted by JbLife [View Original Post]

So, I'm late 30's guy, not tall or great looking in my own mind to western standards. Got a bit of a gut (but working on it). First time I went to AC was 2012 or so. Probably went back 20 times since then. Alot of that was helped by loving in a East Asian country for work so no 20+ hour flying time to get there.

I think I have barfined a single girl in all those trips. I personally can't stand the bars, not even in the US or east Asia. I just don't particularly like being out in big clubs or places like that.

Anyway I've always had a good time and it really all goes back to the first trip I took. Before I left I was on DIA chatting to women in the area.

I found one, she was cute enough about 24-25 at the time great in bed, really knew how to throw it back. Next trip she introduced me to her sister. Another great time. Let me fast forward to the this year 2023. Saw the second sister again and have been chatting with her since I got back in January. Come next February I am going to complete the set in the time between 2012 and 2023 I got with 4 of 6 sister and next year I will see little sisters 5 and 6 in this family. A 21 yea old with 1 baby and a 23 year old with no kids. Plus the second sister who I keep telling is my Mamasan is going to find some more girls in the barangay who want to earn 2 k pesos, a meal and some time in an Air conditioned room.

I know its 2023 now and a long time has passed but, these girls are very trusting, if you find a girl and ask about her friends or if she has family she will probably hook you up. Plus now you have Tinder. Once you get the hard-core pros out of the way it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

This sounds really fun. Amazing!

**Betong** · 06-02-23 12:39

Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]

It certainly will outlast me. I will enjoy it until then.

Me too, mate. Now wrapping up a two-month stay and it's been great fun.

**Jb Life** · 06-02-23 11:42

So, I'm late 30's guy, not tall or great looking in my own mind to western standards. Got a bit of a gut (but working on it). First time I went to AC was 2012 or so. Probably went back 20 times since then. Alot of that was helped by loving in a East Asian country for work so no 20+ hour flying time to get there.

I think I have barfined a single girl in all those trips. I personally can't stand the bars, not even in the US or east Asia. I just don't particularly like being out in big clubs or places like that.

Anyway I've always had a good time and it really all goes back to the first trip I took. Before I left I was on DIA chatting to women in the area.

I found one, she was cute enough about 24-25 at the time great in bed, really knew how to throw it back. Next trip she introduced me to her sister. Another great time. Let me fast forward to the this year 2023. Saw the second sister again and have been chatting with her since I got back in January. Come next February I am going to complete the set in the time between 2012 and 2023 I got with 4 of 6 sister and next year I will see little sisters 5 and 6 in this family. A 21 yea old with 1 baby and a 23 year old with no kids. Plus the second sister who I keep telling is my Mamasan is going to find some more girls in the barangay who want to earn 2 k pesos, a meal and some time in an Air conditioned room.

I know its 2023 now and a long time has passed but, these girls are very trusting, if you find a girl and ask about her friends or if she has family she will probably hook you up. Plus now you have Tinder. Once you get the hard-core pros out of the way it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

**AggieDad1** · 06-01-23 21:21

Originally Posted by Locamotive [View Original Post]

This is typical for newbies, military or not. These guys have been in pussy prison all their lives and when they come to S. E. A. It blows their minds. Its worse than a kid in a candy store. You mean for 100 bucks or less these girls will go home with me and give me GFE and treat me as I'm a long lost love. Some. Yes they will. Its a change of thought that some just cannot handle. When I first went to work in 2008 I knew nothing about this world. I sat in hotel first 2 months and just concentrated on my job. Work friends were like dude if you get out their they will be on you like white on rice. At 50 years old I'm like you fuckers are crazy. They finally drag me out to Greenbelt one night. I was a fish out of water. Table after table of girls grinning like a possum. At first I could not believe they were looking at me. Took one home later 23 I think and after the deed I think I just stared at her most of the night. Coming from US where I was always told you getting women like this has long past you by. Its a culture shock and it can freak you out. Maybe not like back then as so much more internet exposure, but being there vs online are two different things. Military guys are just nave and some do get in trouble, but they will learn like we all did.

Great post. I had a similar experience when I first started going to Asia for work in 2007.

**Locamotive** · 06-01-23 18:40

Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]

They can have liberty, but they are restricted from those places and activities. It is not the military of years gone by. It used to be the first place we would go was the place they told us not to go. These days they mean it.

My cousin's boat stopped in Rio and they could not even partake of the great delicacies the place has to offer. Comedian Eddie Griffin said the reason most people go into the military is to get exotic pussy. Unfortunately that option has been pretty much taken off the table.

A couple of years ago here in Thailand the US Military was in town. An incident happened and a buddy of mine was called on in the middle of the night to go translate. An 18 year old Marine had met a chick online. Him and his buddy hooked up with her and her friend. Just so happened the girl was the 16 year old daughter of a Thai Navy commander. The guy wanted $75,000 to make it go away. Of course the US government had to front the money and the young guy that probably only makes $2,000 per month will be on the hook to pay it back. They are trying to avoid situations like that and the ones in the pictures.

This is typical for newbies, military or not. These guys have been in pussy prison all their lives and when they come to S. E. A. It blows their minds. Its worse than a kid in a candy store. You mean for 100 bucks or less these girls will go home with me and give me GFE and treat me as I'm a long lost love. Some. Yes they will. Its a change of thought that some just cannot handle. When I first went to work in 2008 I knew nothing about this world. I sat in hotel first 2 months and just concentrated on my job. Work friends were like dude if you get out their they will be on you like white on rice. At 50 years old I'm like you fuckers are crazy. They finally drag me out to Greenbelt one night. I was a fish out of water. Table after table of girls grinning like a possum. At first I could not believe they were looking at me. Took one home later 23 I think and after the deed I think I just stared at her most of the night. Coming from US where I was always told you getting women like this has long past you by. Its a culture shock and it can freak you out. Maybe not like back then as so much more internet exposure, but being there vs online are two different things. Military guys are just naïve and some do get in trouble, but they will learn like we all did.

**Shining Wit** · 06-01-23 17:22

Originally Posted by JordCo [View Original Post]

My point remains valid. They won't improve the scene for the average Westerner. They either won't change anything or if they do they'll only introduce competition.

I am open to being shown how the increase in you S military personnel will make a blind bit of difference to Clark. Some time back I read an article about the increased levels, and there were 4 Philippine military bases that were mentioned. None were in Pampanga (or even Zambales) and I wasn't sure where 2 of the provinces were. Clark Air Force Base was returned to the Philippine government in 1992 when the lease was not renewed, and has since been developed, somewhat erratically, as an airport to relieve pressure on Ninoy Aquino airport in Manila and accept primarily foreign low cost sarriers. A new terminal has been built, together with something obstructing the flight path at one end of one of the two runways. This was not particularly inconvenient, as the two runways are too close together to permit parallel usage. Wiki says the Philippine Air Force maintains a unit there, but I think some of the hangars are used by Philippine Air Lines for maintenance.

All in all, I don't see the American military moving the dial at all.

**Dg8787** · 06-01-23 13:25

Originally Posted by Betong [View Original Post]

Keep in mind that people have been predicting the demise of the bar scene in AC for over 30 years. At this rate it may still outlast most of us.

It certainly will outlast me. I will enjoy it until then.

**Betong** · 06-01-23 06:58

Originally Posted by Fastpiston [View Original Post]

Angeles is degrading very fast will soon be a spent force.

Keep in mind that people have been predicting the demise of the bar scene in AC for over 30 years. At this rate it may still outlast most of us.

**JordCo** · 05-31-23 23:21

Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]

I seriously doubt any of the US Military will have shore leave let alone be allowed to go to girlie bars. US will not risk the embarrassment of drunken men and women on leave to torpedo the new agreements. There has not been any shore leave to bars since the navy man killing the trans about 7 years ago.

Last month on my flight from Guam to Manila there were quite a few navy personnel on the flight within 3 rows of me going to Subic. I offered to buy them a drink and all responded their orders clearly stated "No Alcohol " on the trip at all. Also when they landed in Manila they were to wait at the airport for the military transport directly to Subic.

My point remains valid. They won't improve the scene for the average Westerner. They either won't change anything or if they do they'll only introduce competition.

**LoveItHere** · 05-31-23 22:27

Originally Posted by KumuMan [View Original Post]

Agree, but will they be able to go to massage parlors and hook up with indies?

I doubt even that. If he has to visit the military doctor with an STD and has not been to the states for over a month there will tons of questions how he got said disease.

**Mr Enternational** · 05-31-23 01:28

Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]

I seriously doubt any of the US Military will have shore leave let alone be allowed to go to girlie bars.

They can have liberty, but they are restricted from those places and activities. It is not the military of years gone by. It used to be the first place we would go was the place they told us not to go. These days they mean it.

My cousin's boat stopped in Rio and they could not even partake of the great delicacies the place has to offer. Comedian Eddie Griffin said the reason most people go into the military is to get exotic pussy. Unfortunately that option has been pretty much taken off the table.

A couple of years ago here in Thailand the US Military was in town. An incident happened and a buddy of mine was called on in the middle of the night to go translate. An 18 year old Marine had met a chick online. Him and his buddy hooked up with her and her friend. Just so happened the girl was the 16 year old daughter of a Thai Navy commander. The guy wanted $75,000 to make it go away. Of course the US government had to front the money and the young guy that probably only makes $2,000 per month will be on the hook to pay it back. They are trying to avoid situations like that and the ones in the pictures.