Angeles City

[TjBrazil]

I think that's pretty accurate.

The joy of AC previous to the K invasion around 2013-14 (especially the 00's and before), was large numbers of 7's, with a small number of 8's tossed in, at cheap prices for LT. After all the girls were coming from the far-flung off-island provinces, and on recommendation from a cousin. Its not like the bars were advertising for 'hotties only'. I could get a spinner who ticked all my boxes easily in the first bar I walked into. If that failed, there was the bar next door. On one of my first trips I was in Body Shop one evening. The dance stage is long / skinny, with two rows of girls: One row facing the right wall, the other row faces the left wall. There were 9 girls facing each wall. They slowly rotated counter-clockwise. Of the 18 girls, only one girl had larger than B cups. When the shift changed and the girls were replaced with 18 new girls, there were only 2 gals with larger than B cups. That's 3 of 36 girls that weren't flat-chested. I would guess that if you went to the provinces of Surigao, Samar, and Leyte, where the girls often come from, you'd find about the same large % of flatness. Their ribs often showed. You got a spinner who would bang you in the evening and again in the morning for $25-$30. The girls were sweet, fun-loving, spoke a modicum of English, and were spunky; not only in the bar, but in the room. For many of us, that was heaven.

I would imagine that if a fella was an 8's-and-up guy, AC was the bottom end of joy for him and he was off to Thailand to never return to AC. Its not for everyone.

Can you explain the Korean invasion. Korea has always been close to Manila. What happened since 2014 to change AC. It looked like a dump when I was there. You're saying it was beautiful 10 years ago. LOL.

[D Cups]

What are EDs.

Not sure if he means Engine Driver, fellow ISGer, or Erectile Dysfunctionals. They could be one and the same.

[WestCoast1]

While there might have been more choice and therefore a higher number of girls who are better looking. Any photos I've seen from 80's 90's and early 00's have very rarely shown anything over a 7 or 8. Many had good bodies but in terms of face, the quality looks around the same as it is today on average. Stories of 9's are 99% a guy over estimating a girl he had feelings for.

The major difference today is less girls in bars and the lower end of the scale are fatties.

I think that's pretty accurate.

The joy of AC previous to the K invasion around 2013-14 (especially the 00's and before), was large numbers of 7's, with a small number of 8's tossed in, at cheap prices for LT. After all the girls were coming from the far-flung off-island provinces, and on recommendation from a cousin. Its not like the bars were advertising for 'hotties only'. I could get a spinner who ticked all my boxes easily in the first bar I walked into. If that failed, there was the bar next door. On one of my first trips I was in Body Shop one evening. The dance stage is long / skinny, with two rows of girls: One row facing the right wall, the other row faces the left wall. There were 9 girls facing each wall. They slowly rotated counter-clockwise. Of the 18 girls, only one girl had larger than B cups. When the shift changed and the girls were replaced with 18 new girls, there were only 2 gals with larger than B cups. That's 3 of 36 girls that weren't flat-chested. I would guess that if you went to the provinces of Surigao, Samar, and Leyte, where the girls often come from, you'd find about the same large % of flatness. Their ribs often showed. You got a spinner who would bang you in the evening and again in the morning for $25-$30. The girls were sweet, fun-loving, spoke a modicum of English, and were spunky; not only in the bar, but in the room. For many of us, that was heaven.

I would imagine that if a fella was an 8's-and-up guy, AC was the bottom end of joy for him and he was off to Thailand to never return to AC. Its not for everyone.

[JordCo]

Like how many girls they used to fuck, the 9's that they would get for bargain prices-some free just on their good looks. Some will brag about the muscle cars they owned. Some will regale about the big businesses they owned or still own..

While there might have been more choice and therefore a higher number of girls who are better looking. Any photos I've seen from 80's 90's and early 00's have very rarely shown anything over a 7 or 8. Many had good bodies but in terms of face, the quality looks around the same as it is today on average. Stories of 9's are 99% a guy over estimating a girl he had feelings for.

The major difference today is less girls in bars and the lower end of the scale are fatties.

[Jarango]

Just wanted to add a quick summary of the last few weeks here.

Cheers.

Excellent report. I take it you are British from your terms. Money also does not seem to be a consideration, so good for you.

Here is my question. Is it better to shop in Picadilly / Oxford St (ie Angeles) or go to some remote outpost where the service might be better? I am in touch with hookers based in Angeles, Manila and Negros and the last one is a tiger but would entail an extra plane, bus, taxi amnd probably a jeepney too. A long way for a long bonk.

[TjBrazil]

Lately I have been educated on 2 types of people going to the bars.

Group one goes to have a few drinks, touch a few girls and ultimately barfine and fuck. The lineups are still better than the home country. Yes, Pinays are built different from others but these mongers will make the adjustment after a few days. They will understand the value of the Pinays.

The other group I have been told by ED who goes and socialize with other ED's, drinking and telling lies and stories about the good old days. Like how many girls they used to fuck, the 9's that they would get for bargain prices-some free just on their good looks. Some will brag about the muscle cars they owned. Some will regale about the big businesses they owned or still own. They all sit around drinking and BS each other but never will barfine a girl. The ED's will tell each other how ugly the girls are as their excuses and that it is not like the good old days anymore. No Shit.

What are EDs.

[Samsta]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to add a quick summary of the last few weeks here.

Was taking notes for a detailed report but I'm too busy smashing. Might add details later.

Just noting that I've been coming here for last 5-6 years with a gap during covid. I noticed immediately abd was shocked at higher priced bar fines on ws with pretty much all at 4500/5000 p for the Spinner type I like.

Needless to say I know my budget and have forked out 5 x of these bar fines with some amazing girls. All have been great fucks with tight bods however 3 bola bola even after promising to stay till morning they want to leave after a fuck or 2 to go to megadance and score another 2 k or just spend thier barfine money with thier gfs.

I also have been on pinalove as its my usual go to for topping shags up during the day especially since perimeter bars are dry right now and since last 3 weeks. 1 bar fine took me to mischief bar now called some other random name but it was the gilf shift with 1 girl bar fined only out of 7 at 2500 p.

I haven't been able to stay awake until megadance gets going but did so once and a hottie came home with me then asked for 4 k. Almost told her to get fucked. But then again this was after a fuck. So negotiated her to stay all night for that much. She said Koreans, Japanese and Chinese readily pay her 4 k st so that's all she does. 2 customers a night and she's happy as Larry.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents. I've got a healthy body count this trip and there as amazing 35 kg fucks majority of the time. I always have a ball here.

Take care lads. Life's what you make of it. Price has gone up but pay a 5 k then it will cost 2 k next time. Worth the investment although I don't repeat haha too much new pussy around.

Cheers.

[Dg8787]

Sometimes I wonder who is most disappointed: old guys trying to relive the past or new guys wondering where all the hot girls are. 😁.

I learnt long ago to let the past be. You can never make it come back.

Lately I have been educated on 2 types of people going to the bars.

Group one goes to have a few drinks, touch a few girls and ultimately barfine and fuck. The lineups are still better than the home country. Yes, Pinays are built different from others but these mongers will make the adjustment after a few days. They will understand the value of the Pinays.

The other group I have been told by ED who goes and socialize with other ED's, drinking and telling lies and stories about the good old days. Like how many girls they used to fuck, the 9's that they would get for bargain prices-some free just on their good looks. Some will brag about the muscle cars they owned. Some will regale about the big businesses they owned or still own. They all sit around drinking and BS each other but never will barfine a girl. The ED's will tell each other how ugly the girls are as their excuses and that it is not like the good old days anymore. No Shit.

[GreenBud]

It seems the best bars for quality and quantity is Dragon Bar and XS. What other bar comes close in regards to quality/quantity?

You need to get to Dragon Bar close to opening time at 5 pm to get the opportunity to choose the best girls. Many Koreans get there early to choose. If you get there around 10 or 11 pm, it can be empty. Dragon Bar is definitely a Korean bar. That Eastern European looking guy (he told me he's Italian) told me he was hired to take care of the non-Koreans. He guessed/estimated that half of the girls are "Korean only".

What idiot would take their Korean customers barhopping, and not take them to Dragon bar. Only a fake one. If you're entertaining Korean customers, you need to take them to Dragon Bar. At the latest, 7 pm; better at 5 pm.

XS has 5 groups of girls. The "taped supermodels" group was pretty good. There was one that was a stunner. I was told they are "super selective".

Q Bar (party of the Wolf Pack group) is definitely not a Korean bar, whatever definition you lose. It seems our delusional, self-professed Angeles expert has been reading the wrong Facebook group. Even the quality is poor. I used to go there a lot when Paul (manager/part owner) was there, but he passed away (RIP). Quality was always marginal, and it still is.

Soya is definitely a Korean bar. I was there today at 12 pm. Saw a skinny cute girl. I was going to buy her a drink, but the papasan said she was already taken / reserved. She had a red ribbon attached to her, which indicates that she was already barfined. The bar opens at 9:30 am. I'm not going to go there that early. Maybe I should, since there might be better ones.

Usually, Korean bars open early. You have to get there really early to get the best ones. Korean bars has to have a Korean papasan, since many Koreans can't speak English. They have Korean owners, usually play K-pop songs, and usually have higher prices. The Koreans brought the demise of the single/double lady drinks.

[Turgid]

But is it bad? I grew up in a world where sex outside of marriage was an evil similar to murder. Imagine what that does to a kid. Normalizing sexuality, or at least separating it from ethical behavior, I think is probably a good thing. People smarter than I, and with hard data, will probably have better judgement on this. But when I understood that being ethical, a 'good' person, and having sex, were separate issues, I got a lot more comfortable in my skin. Now they just need to get these girls on birth control. I remember being in the elevator at Central Park with one of my Gecko's regulars where she busted out a birth control pill and popped it right there and I thought 'maybe there is some hope'.

My parents were strict conservative Catholics as was everyone in our neighborhood. Extra marital sex was a sin and masturbation was evil and health damaging. My neighbor's father demanded that my buddy whistle a hymn every time he entered the bathroom. Every time I think of his relating to me and my brother how his tune changed while he was climaxing I crack up.

[Goferring]

I said farewell as I boarded the bus to the airport in Manila. It was fun while it lasted. I think the golden age came to an end with the GFC.

Sometimes I wonder who is most disappointed: old guys trying to relive the past or new guys wondering where all the hot girls are. 😁.

I learnt long ago to let the past be. You can never make it come back.

G.

[Jarango]

Other opportunities have opened up. Use Pina Love as your data base. Check the amount of them who have travelled, those who have had boob jobs and others who offer cam shows. I know babes made big bucks from cam shows. Not my thing but it is a mega market. Then there are the Koreans bonking away like rabbits, according to the hotel staff.

Hookers and poverty have not gone away, Elements of the market have simply changed. Why work in a bar when more bucks are to be made onlimne through your phone and from Korean and flyover state remittances?

[Betong]

the best bars are Q bar, Xs bar, avalon bar, each had a handful of girls that were ok looking and fairly slim.

That was my experience a couple months ago. The town ain't what it used to be but you can still find some nice girls in the classic Filipina LBFM style. I can understand why a newbie might turn around and leave in disgust. But for those of us who have a long history with the place, it's still fun to try to find a gem, or at least a semi-precious one. And when you eventually get a good one -- and I still seem to, every trip -- you think, yeah, this is what the PI is all about. And I say this as someone who lives in Thailand, where we certainly don't lack for girls.

[ManonsanBoy]

20-25 years ago, Angeles was a monger paradise simply because the supply of girls was plentiful and the Asians were still working hard. I used to have 3 day weekends from Hong Kong and had 3 to 6 babes for about 1000 USD total cost, all in including airfares, hotels and the best food I could find. Now the Asians are richer and playing more. The supply of babes is way down due to dramatically lower birth rates starting 20-30 years ago, is down. Angeles as a destination is dying. I was there in October 2022. I said farewell as I boarded the bus to the airport in Manila. It was fun while it lasted. I think the golden age came to an end with the GFC.

[Expat American]

But is it bad? I grew up in a world where sex outside of marriage was an evil similar to murder. Imagine what that does to a kid. Normalizing sexuality, or at least separating it from ethical behavior, I think is probably a good thing. People smarter than I, and with hard data, will probably have better judgement on this. But when I understood that being ethical, a 'good' person, and having sex, were separate issues, I got a lot more comfortable in my skin. Now they just need to get these girls on birth control. I remember being in the elevator at Central Park with one of my Gecko's regulars where she busted out a birth control pill and popped it right there and I thought 'maybe there is some hope'.

I wasnt making a moral judgement. Hate to say it but you are probably looking at future bar girls of AC. As for BC, I actually thank the Pope daily for providing a never ending supply of young supple LBFMs into our groping hands. LOL. Overpopulation is the root cause of poverty which leads girls into prostitution which we are all enjoying.