Angeles City

[Engine Driver]

Ah, any gents who've visited Indo this year, please tell of your experiences regarding prices. NE says $30 USD, but a stroll thru the last 2 weeks in the Jakarta thread shows higher, typically $50-$125 USD (not that far from AC prices). Also the gents on the Jakarta thread talk about going to Classic / Orchardz (or similar) fishbowls, as opposed to AC's fleshpot system of surrounding you with PYT's. The Jakarta fishbowls are described as not being able to see the girls first (you can see tiktok videos). Me-thinks the comparison is not fair. I miss Top Gun.

However I feel for NE's pain. The post-covid AC system is much as NE describes it. Having visited AC a few months ago, I see little reason to go back. I am surrounded by flesh in Phils wherever I go.

Attached pic: Some Indo-honey for ya's.

Westie,

Sanur X house brothels are 400 k for ST with a pretty girl. Room is shit.

Dating app girl is about 2 million for overnight stay. Super hot girls will be 4-5 million per night. Plenty of these girls will also be a travel companion for the same daily fee plus expenses.

High class massage parlours with all in service are 1. 2 - 1. 5 million with a pretty girl.

Standard massage with no extras is 100 k at a legit place.

[Slowalk]

One needs to be flexible and seek out new locations. I have found many, but will not discuss these places as the last thing t want is for others playing Mr. Big and going there throwing money in all directions and ruining …. The experience..

Thailand especially was changed by Disneyland tourists.

[Goferring]

Good luck finding an 8 or 9 in Jakarta for $30 USD...

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

Ah, any gents who've visited Indo this year, please tell of your experiences regarding prices. NE says $30 USD, but a stroll thru the last 2 weeks in the Jakarta thread shows higher, typically $50-$125 USD (not that far from AC prices)..

450 kRps sessions are available all over Kota Jakarta. It's even the standard price at the X houses in tourist-ville Bali. I'd agree calling the girls a 9 is stretching it but it's not difficult to find a petite spinner vs the AC Jollie bellies. The downsides are zero English and pretty seedy facilities. To get the foreigner friendly choices you are heading towards 1 M /$65. A 5 star hotel girl or Seeking will be multiples of this. Blok M was dead years ago.

Enjoy. G.

[Fastpiston]

10 years ago bar fines were around 1200 and US $1 = 42 pesos. $28.50. Most bar fines were for LT with occasional runners.

At the end of 2019 and early 2020 I paid bar fines of 2000 to 2500 and half stayed LT. Exchange rate was 48.

My last visit a few months ago bar fines were 3000-4500 depending on the bars. Most were 3500. Exchange rate was 56.

In other words, USD exchange rate has benefitted us by 25%, while costs in AC have gone up by 300%. Add to that other issues such as lower quality and devaluation from LT to ST. I have traveled Asiawide for years and saw the same evolution in Thailand about 15 - 20 years ago. One needs to be flexible and seek out new locations. I have found many, but will not discuss these places as the last thing t want is for others playing Mr. Big and going there throwing money in all directions and ruining the market.

[WestCoast1]

Spot on. Thanks to everyone for sharing. I booked a trip in May and cancelled the last minute (went to LOS instead) without any penalties even though my hotel was non-refundable, due to the horrible and decreasing quality I have been reading about. This time, I am scheduled to land next week and I am about to cancel again. $25 cancellation fee. Lack of penalties makes a person less decisive. I am two clicks away from switching to Jakarta. For me to spend 5/6000 USD (2 weeks) only to find myself with oldies or pale girls is too much to spend. All I am hearing about is Korean bars catering to Korean clientele and I get the short end of the stick. I do have a thing for Filipinas but I am not willing to waste money over some average lookers. While Jakarta has a different system than AC, at least you get to bang some 8's and 9's which are almost non-existent in AC. Maybe a few here and there but they end up with the Koreans most of the time. What is making this even less attractive is this madness about 5000 pesos and you are neither guaranteed a great experience nor a full nighter. Sorry AC. So long I will miss you, truly miss you. Doing an 8 or a 9 in Jakarta for 30 USD plus tip puts AC to shame any day. I will miss my Pinays but they have made it too easy for me to make a switch.

Ah, any gents who've visited Indo this year, please tell of your experiences regarding prices. NE says $30 USD, but a stroll thru the last 2 weeks in the Jakarta thread shows higher, typically $50-$125 USD (not that far from AC prices). Also the gents on the Jakarta thread talk about going to Classic / Orchardz (or similar) fishbowls, as opposed to AC's fleshpot system of surrounding you with PYT's. The Jakarta fishbowls are described as not being able to see the girls first (you can see tiktok videos). Me-thinks the comparison is not fair. I miss Top Gun.

However I feel for NE's pain. The post-covid AC system is much as NE describes it. Having visited AC a few months ago, I see little reason to go back. I am surrounded by flesh in Phils wherever I go.

My experience at Orchardz was a bit different. As noted, the entrance is behind the restaurant and you have to use the elevator on the right to go to the third floor. They gave me a wrist band and I went to the lounge. There were at least 10 other guys hanging out. Not sure what they were doing as nobody was drinking. Maybe waiting for a friend to finish?

However, instead of three price ranges, she quoted just one price - 880 k. I said that my friend paid 650 k and she denied it. .

I've paid 2 M for an early 20's local to my hotel. Usually happy to stay from 2 h to overnight as I am usually at a fairly nice hotel. Overall seeking gives a more "amateur" feeling vs Tinder which is almost always an agent with high probability of bait and switch, though can be from 0. 8 to 1 m only.

I got the mamasan to send me all her girls videos to my WhatsApp. One of the girl caught my attention and I ended up booking her. There are three different tiers to the girls. The Gold, The Pink and The Model priced at 450 K, 650 K and 1 Million respectively. The girl that I selected was in the Pink group.

Attached pic: Some Indo-honey for ya's.

[Golfinho]

Can someone there confirm covid vax entry / exit requirements presently. It looks like they want full vax proof of booster shot for domestic flights and to leave Indonesia.

[SeaTraveler]

Doing an 8 or a 9 in Jakarta for 30 USD plus tip puts AC to shame any day. I will miss my Pinays but they have made it too easy for me to make a switch.

Good luck finding an 8 or 9 in Jakarta for $30 USD.

In 2019, I paid 700,000 ($45) each for 2 skanks from Blok M.

If you have some secret stash of women, please share as I am landing there on March 15.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

[Goferring]

Sorry AC. So long I will miss you, truly miss you. Doing an 8 or a 9 in Jakarta for 30 USD plus tip puts AC to shame any day. I will miss my Pinays but they have made it too easy for me to make a switch.

While you are 100% correct, AC isn't the only place to get laid in PH. $6000 plus $30/ day would pay for a very nice beach holiday and endless procession of provincial honeys.

[Dg8787]

Looks like pussy is a fluctuating commodity, just like pork bellies. LOL.

Fluctuating warm pussy is better than cold pork bellies. That's where my investment dollar $ are going to.

[GentileBear]

AC. So long I will miss you, truly miss you. Doing an 8 or a 9 in Jakarta for 30 USD plus tip puts AC to shame any day. I will miss my Pinays but they have made it too easy for me to make a switch.

Damn you sound just like me! But I don't spend $5,000 USD on trips. Way way way less. But indeed Jakarta blew me away with the Quality of ladies and the food is excellent. Please do post your report because I am dying to hear a new boots on the ground report.

[Radical Guy]

10 years ago bar fines were around 1200 and US $1 = 42 pesos. $28.50. Most bar fines were for LT with occasional runners.

At the end of 2019 and early 2020 I paid bar fines of 2000 to 2500 and half stayed LT. Exchange rate was 48.

My last visit a few months ago bar fines were 3000-4500 depending on the bars. Most were 3500. Exchange rate was 56.

Looks like pussy is a fluctuating commodity, just like pork bellies. LOL.

[Dg8787]

I've been going g to AC for about 10 years and I can't remember bar fine being as low as 1500. Around 2500 to 3000 before the pandemic (I was there Feb 2020). I was there just in November 2022 and they are asking 5000 but at least that's LT. Personally I prefer freelancers, and there are many touting for your custom, girls and non girls, some quite convincing so you have to be careful, but the choice is great and doing 2 or 3 a day I never paid more than 3000. One of those stayed 22 hours and came back for a second overnight. There is a great variety starting around midday, for me it's better choice than bar girls and much better value. I went to one of 3 "bars" in Mt Mayon Ext, near Boomerang hotel, you can get a cheap deal there on or off the premises and when I asked for a younger girl they brought one in for me, a cheap and interesting "low life" experience with girls who can't wait to play with your bits. I always have a visit and at least a couple of beers in one of these, I imagine AC was more like that in years gone by. So don't be put off by the high bar fines, still lots of fun to be had. And yes I do understand the risks with freelancers.

10 years ago bar fines were around 1200 and US $1 = 42 pesos. $28.50. Most bar fines were for LT with occasional runners.

At the end of 2019 and early 2020 I paid bar fines of 2000 to 2500 and half stayed LT. Exchange rate was 48.

My last visit a few months ago bar fines were 3000-4500 depending on the bars. Most were 3500. Exchange rate was 56.

[Goferring]

Great stuff here. Thanks. How do you get started with IG? Do you find a hot chick in AC then go to her followers and see who else they follow?

It takes some work. Start with the something_pinay hashtags then find girls that are in Angeles. Note the PH preference for big buxom girls, not the spinners you mentioned. Also, IG girls are fawned upon by simps who essentially send them money for nothing so expect eye watering prices and an extremely entitled attitude. Very few live permanently in AC so only start when you can act immediately.

You can also search for girls in the popular AC hangouts eg #AquaBeachClub.

Not a market I dabble in but IG model pricing:....

[ShadowJ]

1. In decreasing order of girl quality it's Instagram, Tinder, Filipino Cupid, DIA, PinaLove. If you want to bring tea to China, Seeking has some hot and professional girls but you wil be importing them from Manila.
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Great stuff here. Thanks. How do you get started with IG? Do you find a hot chick in AC then go to her followers and see who else they follow?

[NothingElse1]

Was noticing lately that of the many walking st bars that have either changed hands, having renovations done or change of use into bars are all korean owners / money.

The koreans are for sure the majority of both punters and bar investors, its staggering the speed of change to be honest.

Nothing against the korean owned bars, I find them to be well run, clean, professional, welcoming and employ by far the better girls, yes easy to spend large in these bars and not so easy to get laid as they are designed exactly for that purpose but at least one gets to see the better looking girls angeles has to offer, so no complaints from me.

Spot on. Thanks to everyone for sharing. I booked a trip in May and cancelled the last minute (went to LOS instead) without any penalties even though my hotel was non-refundable, due to the horrible and decreasing quality I have been reading about. This time, I am scheduled to land next week and I am about to cancel again. $25 cancellation fee. Lack of penalties makes a person less decisive. I am two clicks away from switching to Jakarta. For me to spend 5/6000 USD (2 weeks) only to find myself with oldies or pale girls is too much to spend. All I am hearing about is Korean bars catering to Korean clientele and I get the short end of the stick. I do have a thing for Filipinas but I am not willing to waste money over some average lookers. While Jakarta has a different system than AC, at least you get to bang some 8's and 9's which are almost non-existent in AC. Maybe a few here and there but they end up with the Koreans most of the time. What is making this even less attractive is this madness about 5000 pesos and you are neither guaranteed a great experience nor a full nighter. Sorry AC. So long I will miss you, truly miss you. Doing an 8 or a 9 in Jakarta for 30 USD plus tip puts AC to shame any day. I will miss my Pinays but they have made it too easy for me to make a switch.