Angeles City

[JordCo]

I also used to visit AC a lot 10-12 years ago. I haven't been since 2016 but coming on Wednesday for a week. However, browsing this forum right now has depressed the hell out of me! I really hope some of this is exaggerated. Back in 2010 when I was in my 20's, I would love to barfine a girl and party all night with her. I guess I shouldn't expect that to happen anymore? I'm 39 now, is there anyone that will be in Angeles later this week that wants to meetup for barhopping? Send me a message!

At 39 you should have no problem in Angeles or anywhere in the Philippines. Consider most of the info on here relevant to a 60+, penny watching mongerer. If you're younger and only there for a week and not willing to let a 1000-2000 peso price change ruin your week then you will do fine. It is true about Koreans going to bar fine very early and on the weekend there may be no decent ones by the evening. Go earlier, agree an all day / night barfine and tip and I'm sure you'll do fine.

[DzikaBomba]

I used to visit AC a lot, and have noticed a sharp deterioration over many years. Covid reset it into Korealand. The forum reports confirm my view. Price / Quality now is too high. I'm focusing on other opportunities, outside the bar scene.

No way in hell I'd ever go back to AC other than out of morbid curiosity on my way through Luzon.

Its very sad but I'm also passing on my planned trip to AC this year. Better to go to the dark continent. I get there what I want much better and cheaper and its a stonethrow from Europe. So no need for this long, expensive flight to PH.

Its just sad what happend to AC. Its a place now, where Americans are competing with Koreans, beacause they want a second Costa Rica far from home.

Paying barfines 5-7 K or giving freelancers Plane Janes single Moms 3 K ST. OMG!

I wanted to see it just one more time, but no, thanks. With shit like that not anymore.

[RakSopheni]

So we should make Subic our new haunt.

It's not such a crazy idea. US Military presence is starting to make a comeback in Luzon. If Western mongers vote with their feet I can see Subic as an alternative to Angeles. Smaller but more Western friendly.

I was trying to warn everyone about AC last summer so it's gratifying to see all these reports confirming my take-away. I wonder what is animating these die-hard AC Boosters other than sheer stubbornness and male reactive tendencies? It's so much easier to get laid in Thailand- not even a contest. No way in hell I'd ever go back to AC other than out of morbid curiosity on my way through Luzon.

[WalkAboutBoyz]

I used to visit AC a lot, and have noticed a sharp deterioration over many years. Covid reset it into Korealand. The forum reports confirm my view. Price / Quality now is too high. I'm focusing on other opportunities, outside the bar scene.

I also used to visit AC a lot 10-12 years ago. I haven't been since 2016 but coming on Wednesday for a week. However, browsing this forum right now has depressed the hell out of me! I really hope some of this is exaggerated. Back in 2010 when I was in my 20's, I would love to barfine a girl and party all night with her. I guess I shouldn't expect that to happen anymore? I'm 39 now, is there anyone that will be in Angeles later this week that wants to meetup for barhopping? Send me a message!

[Breadman]

I used to visit AC a lot, and have noticed a sharp deterioration over many years. Covid reset it into Korealand. The forum reports confirm my view. Price / Quality now is too high. I'm focusing on other opportunities, outside the bar scene.

Well I've moved around a bit while living here in the Philippines. From Cebu up to Manila and finally Angeles city. For those on vacation sure there are better options than Angeles. More girls in Manila for sure. But for the number of regular bars with good drink prices, good food and some nice looking women Angeles is a great place to live. Easy to get girls from dating apps, from some of the bars and once they know your a local are easy to hook up with. Prices for freelance is around half what I was paying in Thailand. You just have to take what is given, go with the flow. I would suggest asking if the girl goes with westerners before even offering a drink. All girls I've taken from bars only want short time. They might agree to stay longer if their friends are bar fined with them? Maybe that's how the Koreans have greater success at keeping them all night.

[Fastpiston]

I used to visit AC a lot, and have noticed a sharp deterioration over many years. Covid reset it into Korealand. The forum reports confirm my view. Price / Quality now is too high. I'm focusing on other opportunities, outside the bar scene.

[WestCoast1]

Very few Koreans in Subic and they don't own any bars there but the selection of girls is much smaller.

So we should make Subic our new haunt.

I guess the only good thing is that their mediocre San Miguel Beer Brewery isn't owned by Anheuser Busch.

Now *that's* funny!

Pic just for fun.

[Beavis]

Have to fully agree with you.

Yes indeed the major problem for Angeles visitors is that even if one is just a little bit fussy one has to bar hop multiple bars to find even an average looking girl, there is a definite severe shortage of attractive slim girls, once one has spotted the girl he likes one has the mammoth task of getting the princesses attention in the 1st place, why, because her attention is fully on the younger, high spending Koreans, many, many girls are drinks only girls, many many are Korean only girls, many many are cherrie girls, that leaves a very small if at all selection of available girls for mr westerner.

It is what it is, one can either greatly lower ones girl expectations or find another mongering destination where the girls are younger, prettier and don't only look to fuck with certain nationalities.

Some will have us believe that all is Rosie in Angeles, there is bar girl for every taste they will tell us, how they know what my taste is or anyone else's taste in women is mind blowing, just because one finds his type of girl does not mean anyone else would find her attractive.

Was out on the town several times over the last couple of weeks, this town is 99% Koreans, they spend the big money, they have the few better looking girls that will actually barfine on their arm, I look at some of the westerners out at breakfast in the mornings with their girl from last night and all I can say is that many many are having to lower their girl choice to very low levels in order to get laid.

Was in Thailand for songkran celebrations for couple of days, must say the general quality of Thai girls is high, one just needs to pop into terminal 21 mall in Bangkok and its like walking into a fashion shoot, no way of telling if some of these girls sold their pussy by the hour but for anyone who has the time to invest in a quality girlfriend then many to be found here.

I go to Angeles every week and cannot argue with one thing said here. Also have found that more than half of those slim, hot girls are terrible once you get them back to your room. As for finding a smoking hot girl that is incredible in the bedroom, well the odds are slightly better than finding the unicorn farm. And yes the Koreans have taken over Angeles. Many bars are Korean only and some of them have different bar fine prices for OTK (Other than Korean) customers. If you ever saw Born in East LA you will find the connection to the OTK acronym.

99% of the ones in AC are rude and obnoxious also. They think they are better than anyone else on earth. Not just the Westerners either, this also goes for the Japanese, Chinese, or any other Asian race. They even have their own Korean task Force Police in AC. I saw a party of 8 of them one night at the the B & B Grill. 4 Korean men with 4 Filipinas. They all ate and drank then when they left they pulled all of their chairs out and left them in the aisle so anyone needing to get to the restroom would have to move them to get by. They left 4 small coins as a tip to the server who had made several trips to their table for about an hour.

Very few Koreans in Subic and they don't own any bars there but the selection of girls is much smaller. As for cheap mongering it is pretty much non existent anymore. Still a lot cheaper here than the western world but by the time you include travel costs Colombia and Costa Rica basically costs the same unless you plan to stay for several months. As for flying 20-30 hours to spend 2 weeks in the PH then doing the same to get back home it's no longer a good return on your investment for the pussy to dollar ratio.

I guess the only good thing is that their mediocre San Miguel Beer Brewery isn't owned by Anheuser Busch.

[NapaSlapper]

I agree with everything you said %100. I no longer think angeles city is a good option for mongering anymore if you are going for two weeks holiday.

The biggest issue is finding girls. First there are not enough girls and when you start to remove the ugly girls, drink only girls, korean only girls, I'm on my period girls, asking way too much girls, want to leave too soon girls you going to end up with like 2 fuckable girls in the whole city and by the time you find one of those 2 fuckable girls you already been to 6 bars and bought 10 drinks and 5 LD don't forget to add that to the cost of the barfine..

Have to fully agree with you.

Yes indeed the major problem for Angeles visitors is that even if one is just a little bit fussy one has to bar hop multiple bars to find even an average looking girl, there is a definite severe shortage of attractive slim girls, once one has spotted the girl he likes one has the mammoth task of getting the princesses attention in the 1st place, why, because her attention is fully on the younger, high spending Koreans, many, many girls are drinks only girls, many many are Korean only girls, many many are cherrie girls, that leaves a very small if at all selection of available girls for mr westerner.

It is what it is, one can either greatly lower ones girl expectations or find another mongering destination where the girls are younger, prettier and don't only look to fuck with certain nationalities.

Some will have us believe that all is Rosie in Angeles, there is bar girl for every taste they will tell us, how they know what my taste is or anyone else's taste in women is mind blowing, just because one finds his type of girl does not mean anyone else would find her attractive.

Was out on the town several times over the last couple of weeks, this town is 99% Koreans, they spend the big money, they have the few better looking girls that will actually barfine on their arm, I look at some of the westerners out at breakfast in the mornings with their girl from last night and all I can say is that many many are having to lower their girl choice to very low levels in order to get laid.

Was in Thailand for songkran celebrations for couple of days, must say the general quality of Thai girls is high, one just needs to pop into terminal 21 mall in Bangkok and its like walking into a fashion shoot, no way of telling if some of these girls sold their pussy by the hour but for anyone who has the time to invest in a quality girlfriend then many to be found here.

[Transporter]

I think the Koreans don't necessarily have more money than the Westerners, but they chase stunners more dedicated and team up. Pretty girls from the AC dayshift get scooped up by 10 AM and stay with Koreans for days. In the Hammer night club they book VIP tables and team up for the best looking freelancers. In Pasay (Manila) it's not different, Korean and Chinese night clubs have the prettiest girls. A Makati taxi driver said that the Burgos street is a monopoly with high barfine agreements between bars.

"These girls go with Koreans not because of how they hunt for girls but that the girls prefer small dicks".

[Transporter]

I don't really like AC, so I have been avoiding it for some time now (nothing wrong with it, it's just not my drip). Needed to hook up with some old friends, and rendezvous with another, so dau is a very central location. Anyhoo, got ripped and had a blast last night, but this is the first time (ever) that a girl asked me if it was okay to go ahead and put it in because we didn't have a condom.

[Igmc32]

I think the Koreans don't necessarily have more money than the Westerners, but they chase stunners more dedicated and team up. Pretty girls from the AC dayshift get scooped up by 10 AM and stay with Koreans for days. In the Hammer night club they book VIP tables and team up for the best looking freelancers. In Pasay (Manila) it's not different, Korean and Chinese night clubs have the prettiest girls. A Makati taxi driver said that the Burgos street is a monopoly with high barfine agreements between bars.

[Igmc32]

I think the Koreans don't necessarily have more money than the Westerners, but they chase stunners more dedicated and team up. Pretty girls from the AC dayshift get scooped up by 10 AM and stay with Koreans for days. In the Hammer night club they book VIP tables and team up for the best looking freelancers. In Pasay (Manila) it's not different, Korean and Chinese night clubs have the prettiest girls. A Makati taxi driver said that the Burgos street is a monopoly with high barfine agreements between bars.

[VictorHugo999]

Hi Bro see.

Thanks for the analysis of AC situation, to put things into perspective.

Yet one can't help but feel. That things are. Not. Getting. Better over. Time.

Aprreciate, Victor.

I agree with everything you said %100. I no longer think angeles city is a good option for mongering anymore if you are going for two weeks holiday.

The biggest issue is finding girls. First there are not enough girls and when you start to remove the ugly girls, drink only girls, korean only girls, I'm on my period girls, asking way too much girls, want to leave too soon girls you going to end up with like 2 fuckable girls in the whole city and by the time you find one of those 2 fuckable girls you already been to 6 bars and bought 10 drinks and 5 LD don't forget to add that to the cost of the barfine.

Thailand is a much better option as there are way more working girls in thailand and more venues to find girls. There are BJ and massage parlors, online, bars, freelancers. I can easily find a girl anytime of the day without having to deal with the bars. I can go to a massage shop, pick a girl pay 3500 peso /2000 baht and fuck her without having to buy her a drink and convince her to have sex with me like with the broken bar system. The cost is for p4 p is very similar to angeles but its easier to get. The food, transportation and accommodation are cheaper on average in thailand and the quality is high. I assume we all agree on how bad the food in the philippines is.

But if you are a younger guy staying for a month or longer and you are willing to invest in dating civilian girls no other country can match the philippines. I used to stay in manila and find good looking, extremely low mileage girls on tinder for free and all it takes is a couple of nice dinner dates. And those girls are low maintenance and extremely horny once you get them. Like you can get 6 pops a day bareback with your new girlfriend and if you do the math that will cost you at least 25 k a day in the bars if we assume you will get 2 pops out of each girl.

[RedJoe]

We went a group of friends 10 April '23 and a few days. Stayed at ABC and triked to Walking Street (100 p) I picked up a chick in Vikings / Pirates and barfined 4500 pesos (72 Eur) for a sweet 23 why / o chick called Mary. Took her to the hotel and went to the club where we went swimming and she and a group of girls danced on the beerpong table. In the room she performed well and BBBJ / CIM / FS no issues!