Angeles City

[Yankees532]

For guys who are happy to barfine from Korean bars, be aware you're barfining their leftovers. Now many of those leftovers are still attractive girls, but the most desirable girls on roster have already been pre-booked on k-social media apps we aren't privy to and wouldn't even be given access to if we asked, they're for k-clientele only.

What apps are you referring to? I will say it's crazy to see the same fucking male koreans over and over again recommended to me as suggested friends after I added a couple girls that I enjoyed this trip on my secondary FB. Curious what else the koreans are using that is "exclusive" to them given not a damn chance in hell any of these working girls speak let alone type korean on their phones.

[Yankees532]

If you read the post of others here, many have said that they have gone to Korean bars and had no issues with bar fining the girls. If they are enforcing a Korean customer only mandate, they are doing a very poor job. It is up to the girl whether they want to go.

Just want to clarify while I am American born Asian, I'm not korean and speak no korean. I had no issues at korean or american own bars my entire trip. Ultimately up to the individual girl to decide who she goes with, regardless of bar was my experience.

[Yankees532]

Yes, while I'd love to let loose for a month straight there on the ground, can't at the moment with wife and kids. One day.

Not really seeing a difference in what you do and the Koreans. You fly in for a few days, spend a lot of cash and fly out to meet the family.

[Yankees532]

I talked to quite a few working girls in my 4 days there last month. Most told me it's not the koreans, its that they spend the cash, they dine the girls and treat them well (heck next time you see a good looking one, look at her phone she's using, as well as any jewelry and nicer tattoos, I'd argue all were paid or gifted by the koreans on top of barfine).

Also found this funny but many girls told me the Koreans have the smallest dicks by far, and many go with them knowing the sex will be quick and uneventful, especially if the man is drunk. Take it for what it's worth.

I am in the same. Visiting the PI for the first time in 7 years+ AC was already in the decline with Korean invasion. By no means do I have an issue with any culture- I am a world traveler and appreciate diversity but here's the problem. When the Korean ownership group came in and bought up all the clubs and then advise the ladies to only date Korean / Asian. That is not cool. There is no other culture that does this? Travel to the DR. The locals don't say you can't date gringos or asians. Travel Euro zones and it is an Equal opportunity environment. It's up to the lady. If she likes black dudes, she has the right to sleep with Black, white, mexican etc. Travel to Latino countries. Nobody sets up shop and demands the workers only F white dudes.

I have my theories why Asian management creates exclusive asian only clubs. I think we all know why. At the same time. It creates animosity I have towards these types of passport buddies and their ownership group. So yes the Korean invasion is a problem if you are not asian.

But I greatly appreciate. Your post. As I will be taking my non-asian american $$$ else where. 9,000 K for a bar fine? Did that include the girls payment? This is a small part of the exclusivity agreement, old members remember the (5, 5 ,5) tag line LOL. Guess it's more like (10-15,5, 5).

[TjBrazil]

Angels is still a backwater shit hole without the US base now! Agree with the comment on some of the punters. White men are just upset that years of being worshipped just for the accident of their skin color is coming to an end in many parts of Asia. Asians (and of course blacks and browns) have been treated like crap in white countries for hundreds of years. A little payback doesn't seem out of line now does it? I hear Africa still worships the Mzungu so maybe that's the next place to go if you are the above mentioned type of punter??

Being worshipped by the ugliest girls AC has to offer is no gift. From what I saw in AC race mattered zero to these girls. They hit on everyone with a pulse.

[Wayne Roberts]

Angels is still a backwater shit hole without the US base now! Agree with the comment on some of the punters. White men are just upset that years of being worshipped just for the accident of their skin color is coming to an end in many parts of Asia. Asians (and of course blacks and browns) have been treated like crap in white countries for hundreds of years. A little payback doesn't seem out of line now does it? I hear Africa still worships the Mzungu so maybe that's the next place to go if you are the above mentioned type of punter??

Yes those oh so intolerant western nations accepting all those immigrants just so that they can oppress them, when will it stop!

[Ronin63]

Dude, everyone is there for the same reason.

Angels is still a backwater shit hole without the US base now! Agree with the comment on some of the punters. White men are just upset that years of being worshipped just for the accident of their skin color is coming to an end in many parts of Asia. Asians (and of course blacks and browns) have been treated like crap in white countries for hundreds of years. A little payback doesn't seem out of line now does it? I hear Africa still worships the Mzungu so maybe that's the next place to go if you are the above mentioned type of punter??

[Breadman]

Prices are indeed through the roof. I can't believe I paid a 5,000 PHP barfine. But the girl was super hot, slim, no baby, flat belly, 23, and provided excellent service that night, and the next morning. These are Pattaya prices, but unlike Pattaya, BBFS is pretty much guaranteed. That's what we're paying for here. That said, I take PREP daily, and 200 MG of doxycycline ("doxy PEP") the next day because this place is a chlamydia and gonorrhea breeding ground.

Its been a few years since I barfined top tier gogo girls from Pattaya but I know for a fact is was double the 5000 peso rate here in Angeles. If I remember correctly it was at Farenheight and the girl / barfine total was close to 6000 baht. In Angeles many of the gogo girls will go for 3500ST in some of the Korean bars down close to McD's. And girls in Lolipop are in the 4000 peso catagory if they are wearing red.

[A Traveler]

Prices are indeed through the roof. I can't believe I paid a 5,000 PHP barfine. But the girl was super hot, slim, no baby, flat belly, 23, and provided excellent service that night, and the next morning. These are Pattaya prices, but unlike Pattaya, BBFS is pretty much guaranteed. That's what we're paying for here. That said, I take PREP daily, and 200 MG of doxycycline ("doxy PEP") the next day because this place is a chlamydia and gonorrhea breeding ground.

[Expat American]

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The fact is, money talks. A lot of guys just like to whine because prices are relatively higher than they were in 1975 when Angeles was a backwater with a huge US base in the middle of it.

I'm white but I have to say some of the old white guys I see in Angeles are just fucking gross. I don't know how the girls can be with them. From an appearance standpoint, the Koreans look goofy with their handbags but they arent 300 lbs with a beer gut. Most of the girls seem to have at least basic standards about who they go with.

Angels is still a backwater shit hole without the US base now! Agree with the comment on some of the punters. White men are just upset that years of being worshipped just for the accident of their skin color is coming to an end in many parts of Asia. Asians (and of course blacks and browns) have been treated like crap in white countries for hundreds of years. A little payback doesn't seem out of line now does it? I hear Africa still worships the Mzungu so maybe that's the next place to go if you are the above mentioned type of punter??

[RainMania]

For guys who are happy to barfine from Korean bars, be aware you're barfining their leftovers. Now many of those leftovers are still attractive girls, but the most desirable girls on roster have already been pre-booked on k-social media apps we aren't privy to and wouldn't even be given access to if we asked, they're for k-clientele only. For some western customers, this wouldn't be an issue as a nut is a nut anyway, particularly if it's a girl you're attracted to. For others this level of disrespect, while charging us full barfine prices for the privilege, just doesn't fly.

That is why I personally don't spend my money in k-run bars. I didn't fly thousands of miles to get treated like a second class citizen while paying for the pleasure of it.

[Pussycat123]

If you read the post of others here, many have said that they have gone to Korean bars and had no issues with bar fining the girls. If they are enforcing a Korean customer only mandate, they are doing a very poor job. It is up to the girl whether they want to go.

Yup, I've had no problem barfining in Korean bars, on Walking St at least. Maybe there are a few overpriced KTVs in Friendship that are Korean only but who the fuck cares.

As for the 9 k barfine, that's in Barnana which is one of the worst bars in Walking St. The girls in there are no better than other places. Most of the Korean bars such as Baccarra, Skyfall etc are 5 k for LT.

The fact is, money talks. A lot of guys just like to whine because prices are relatively higher than they were in 1975 when Angeles was a backwater with a huge US base in the middle of it.

I'm white but I have to say some of the old white guys I see in Angeles are just fucking gross. I don't know how the girls can be with them. From an appearance standpoint, the Koreans look goofy with their handbags but they arent 300 lbs with a beer gut. Most of the girls seem to have at least basic standards about who they go with.

[WestCoast1]

But I greatly appreciate. Your post. As I will be taking my non-asian american $$$ else where. 9,000 K for a bar fine?

The OP mentioned Bar Nana, which is a K-run, high-end specialty shop in the evenings right in the middle of WS. Cost is higher in BN than the other bars (p4-5 k typical in other bars). You would have known that had you bothered to RTFF.

You mentioned 9000 K. Its possible that you are off by a factor of 1000. Your 9000 K = 9 million pesos (about $180,000 USD). I think you mean p9000 (the barfine amount), or p9 K, about $180 USD.

Did that include the girls payment?

Yes, AC barfines are all-inclusive. Again, please RTFF.

[SportMongr]

Don't be that guy Tucker Carlson, Anyone with half a brain does not pay $590 for an everyday session in Mexico in any city. Also, Mexico tends to be a short flight from the US / Canada for most, so the 24 +hours to arrival time, the 13-15 hours of direct flight time being cramped in like cattle, along with the $1500- 2,000 airfare ticket to do so. Is heavily weighted into the idea I should not be spending $150-$200 on a hit or miss bargirl.

Its expensive compared to pre covid.

Its expensive compared to the Clark Base days pre 1990.

But its damn cheap compared to other locations.

Case in point look at the Guadalajara, Mexico page on ISG. Someone went in a gogo bar there:

$60 cover charge.

$29 ladies drinks.

$590, YES FOLKS FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY US DOLLARS barfine for ST (10,000 mexican pesos).

AND PEOPLE ARE STILL BITCHING ABOUT $90 ANGELES BARFINES FOR OVERNIGHT STAYS?

Oy vey.

[MoonShot]

I am in the same. Visiting the PI for the first time in 7 years+ AC was already in the decline with Korean invasion. By no means do I have an issue with any culture- I am a world traveler and appreciate diversity but here's the problem. When the Korean ownership group came in and bought up all the clubs and then advise the ladies to only date Korean / Asian. That is not cool. There is no other culture that does this? Travel to the DR. The locals don't say you can't date gringos or asians. Travel Euro zones and it is an Equal opportunity environment. It's up to the lady. If she likes black dudes, she has the right to sleep with Black, white, mexican etc. Travel to Latino countries. Nobody sets up shop and demands the workers only F white dudes.

I have my theories why Asian management creates exclusive asian only clubs. I think we all know why. At the same time. It creates animosity I have towards these types of passport buddies and their ownership group. So yes the Korean invasion is a problem if you are not asian.

But I greatly appreciate. Your post. As I will be taking my non-Asian american $$$ else where. 9,000 K for a bar fine? Did that include the girls payment? This is a small part of the exclusivity agreement, old members remember the (5, 5 ,5) tag line LOL. Guess it's more like (10-15, 5, 5).

If you read the post of others here, many have said that they have gone to Korean bars and had no issues with bar fining the girls. If they are enforcing a Korean customer only mandate, they are doing a very poor job. It is up to the girl whether they want to go.