Angeles City

[Radical Guy]

I am cautious, I use a condom. Guys who go bareback post a lot about their exploits yet there is not one post of them getting drug-resistant gonorrhea. When that happens they become silent.

Everyone here knows the risks of sex without a condom. Life is full risks. Obviously, there's a risk that your plane will crash on the way to the Philippines, for starters.

But for some of us, myself included, sex with a condom is about the same as no sex at all. Why bother? We might as well just wank off. So as for me, it's very much a risk versus return analysis. Of course, if you're happy with condomed sex, go for it. I wouldn't presume to pass judgment on your choices. I'll thank you for not passing judgment on mine!

RG.

[Turgid]

I am cautious, I use a condom. Guys who go bareback post a lot about their exploits yet there is not one post of them getting drug-resistant gonorrhea. When that happens they become silent.

[Volterra]

Nonsense being that the idea we can all ban together and lower prices. Even the comparison to the inflation factor of goods is wrong.

We all have our financial capabilities and limitations. We all have our priorities and goals which may require increased income or lower expenses or both.

My mongering mo requires more money now to pursue. Yes, I spend more now. I have cut back or even eliminated expenses and had to increase my income to fulfill it. And I am having more fun and sex than any other time in my life!

Understood, DG, and at the end of the day I have to concur and admit it (banning together to lower prices) is wishful thinking on my part. I am one of the guys on the forum who is saying, "damn, I just missed out on the best of it".

At the same time, I intend to follow suit and spend more, as you have. It is now a major component of my retirement planning (privately, of course, I think it goes under "discretionary spending" or "travel and entertainment" in the financial planning software). So I am definitely going to endure that extra year of work so I can have that fun and great sex before my body gives out at some point. I got to admit, even with rising prices, my 2 AC trips this past year have been unforgettable, with girls who are younger and hotter than anything I've had in a long time. And some of the things they have done to me. Shit! Let's just say I have done more than a fair bit of daydreaming during afternoon work hours this past week. (Hope I don't inadvertently start blurting out "feel that deep cock" or some wild sex talk in front of my office mates.).

[NapaSlapper]

I still have the PM. I can send it to you if you want.

I just left Angeles.

I will return next November.

If you are real, I will apologize and buy you a beer.

Its funny how when guys get called out about being in angeles by requesting a friendly beer they all of a sudden happen to have just conveniently left angeles yesterday, amazing.

Anyways, some of us are actually in angeles and went out to the bars last night.

Not much new to report, the town is mainly young korean punters throwing money around like its going out of fashion, westerners are in very short supply, many western bars visited had no customers at all.

The drinks only girls are alive and well and earning the big money by hustling drinks only.

The cherry girls who are actually the cutest girls in the bar are also popular for lady drinks.

The fatties and uglies are still praying they can be called down by a nice korean for drinks but have to reside themselves that no drinks are forthcoming so might have to go through the torture of sucking grand daddys white cock again.

The lady drinks are definately all one price 300-350 pesos and again did not see any girls drinking from a bottle, mostly shot glasses.

[GreenBud]

Not sure what the hell you are on about messages years ago, maybe putting down the bottle will serve your memory better.

I still have the PM. I can send it to you if you want.

Rather than making baseless accusation on a faceless platform why not send me a pm and join us for a drink in angeles, I'm out both tonight and Saturday this week, that way you will know the truth, I won't hold my breath for your pm as your probably just another keyboard warrior that dreams of someday making it to angeles, lets see.

I just left Angeles.

I will return next November.

If you are real, I will apologize and buy you a beer.

[Dg8787]

It may be nonsense to dudes who have enough money that they don't need to think about it. No political commentary from me, this is real shit. I'm going to have to work an extra year in cubicle hades just to save enough pennies so I can tip girls in retirement. I forgot to inform my financial planner about my go go addiction!

Nonsense being that the idea we can all ban together and lower prices. Even the comparison to the inflation factor of goods is wrong.

We all have our financial capabilities and limitations. We all have our priorities and goals which may require increased income or lower expenses or both.

My mongering mo requires more money now to pursue. Yes, I spend more now. I have cut back or even eliminated expenses and had to increase my income to fulfill it. And I am having more fun and sex than any other time in my life!

[FuriousGeorge]

My only deal breaker is a condom. And yes that is why we come here. But the batting average is so high I have never asked in the bar. Mostly because I think many girls might think that's their rule, or ideally what they want, but back at the room in the moment their rules go out the window. So I hesitate to give them the opportunity to tell me that's their rule at the bar. Once I was about to barfine a girl (from Atlantis. I think management does more condom talk here) and she told me beforehand that it was a solid rule for her. I thanked her for letting me know so I could move on. Only once (pre-pan) was I back at the room and the girl absolutely insisted, no exceptions. I sent her home, ate the barfine, went to HiSo and picked up a civvie who met my needs.

Mine is about 5 items and can be told to the girl in 10 seconds. All of them are deal-breakers.

[WestCoast1]

Normally I would much prefer a girl be doing her thing with gusto than a half arsed effort just to tick a box and get a tip.

Apparently the AC girls are less likely to do that anymore. Sad face. They want enticement, or they want some K-attention, which is more lucrative and means less work for them.

Maybe that's why I normally 'go with the flow' rather than give a 16 page performance contract.

Mine is about 5 items and can be told to the girl in 10 seconds. All of them are deal-breakers. If we barfine and get to the room and she insists on a condom, or no BJ, my time (and now, money) has been completely wasted, and nobody is getting naked. Pre-2015-ish in AC, it was easy to find for the price of a barfine. But now? One reason I stopped going to AC about that time was just this issue: If she doesn't get a financial boner for the price of a barfine by seeing me walk in the door, I am wasting my time. There are other venues to getting girls anywhere, and pay-after to insure good service. The upfront payment of AC only works in the long-run if mamas insist that girls do the deeds (ala pre-covid Burgos bars, where girls rarely ran and gave 2 pops in order to not get in trouble with the bar). This is what spoilage leads to. If Koreans make up the bulk of customers, and regularly don't bang the girls while advance barfining the girls, what incentive is there for the girl to go with you in the first place, or stay with you after a dinner out with you or the first pop? What incentive is there for the bar to help you if you complain? None. The mama ignoring you and me complaining about bad service means the girl can barfine 2 x in one night -- good for the girl, the mama, and the owner; but not you. Alternately if she gets barfined early in the evening and must await her Korean to return to pick her up, she can then play dick-ish games with you by telling you she is free later to barfine if you buy her drinks.

The system seems rigged. OTOH, FG and others have done rather well, so not all is lost.

[Expat American]

I think the guys who come here with a checklist of sexual activities and terms and conditions and contracts for the girls are totally missing the point of AC (and the Phils). The PI doesn't have the best looking girls (thai girls and EU girls and Colombian and Brazillians are far hotter), nor are the necessarily the wildest sexually (again anal is standard in Brazil). The one thing PI offers is much more of a genuine GFE and guaranteed BBFS. Other than that there is no good reason to choose AC as a mongering destination. So, there are two ways to play. The Korean way, show up with a wad full of cash, pick a girl, take her home, get basic BBFS, let her go. Or play it the western way, where you go in a bar with the intention of just having a good time. Joke around, flirt, play around, buy drinks. Find a girl with who you click. She will likely NOT be the hottest one in the bar. Take her home. 8 out of 10 times you will get an amazing GFE with all sex variations without big discussion and contract. And she may or may not stay the night but you will not care at that point. At the end of the day, Filipinas are romantics at heart. Yes, even bar girls. If you manage to make them laugh, relax and have a good time, you will get what you want. Now having said that, you can take that same game to Cebu and fuck a bunch of civilians for free or low cost as well. But that's how it is.

[FuriousGeorge]

Right. Yes I could have quite the experience with some LA civvie hotties or some LA working Kgirls with the 6 k usd it cost me to get to and live in AC for a month. BUT. This is a vacation, which has high high value to me, worth the money I spent to travel and live there for a month.

What guys forget to mention when comparing the USA or Europe in price to the phills is the vast cost of getting to the phills.

Yes a girl drinks and a lap dance may be 20 usd in the USA or Europe but that same phills lady drink may be 40 usd each when including how much it cost for the punter in travel to buy that phills lady drink.

[Volterra]

Same with me early January. Girls in Lollipop and Qbar drinking SML. Single drinks that I bought. I have never seen a small drink glass in the bars. Other than a real shot of booze. Which you can smell it is alcohol.

*other post. Keep inflation down! I have heard this nonsense for 10 years and on other forums. Guys should go work for Joe Bidens war on inflation team.

It may be nonsense to dudes who have enough money that they don't need to think about it. No political commentary from me, this is real shit. I'm going to have to work an extra year in cubicle hades just to save enough pennies so I can tip girls in retirement. I forgot to inform my financial planner about my go go addiction!

[AsianPursuits]

Probably. The ones in demand are not that desperate. I know from experience that many girls (who are in demand) will not agree to CIM. LOL!

What is interesting is that regular girls will do this happily and willingly. One little local girl I know from a BPO came to see me last visit. She asked for it as she liked the taste.

So these days it seems bargirls are using it because so many guys ask for it If we stop asking then they just do it.

[Goferring]

I don't believe the girls will ask for tips. I never tried offering large tips for menu items that she doesn't normally do. Maybe I should try that.

Normally I would much prefer a girl be doing her thing with gusto than a half arsed effort just to tick a box and get a tip.

Maybe that's why I normally 'go with the flow' rather than give a 16 page performance contract.

YMMV. G.

[NapaSlapper]

Of course your observations are correct.

He claims he lives there and goes there all the time, but he doesn't see the new sign (Angel Witch) at the old Voodoo location next to Kokomos?

That guy is probably a fake. He claimed in an obnoxious email (a few years ago) that his brother-in-law was the manager at Atlantis. I asked him. He said he doesn't have a brother-in-law. But his write-ups are more accurate than it was when he first began to post, but it still has flaws and exaggerations.

Thanks for your input.

Not sure what the hell you are on about messages years ago, maybe putting down the bottle will serve your memory better.

Rather than making baseless accusation on a faceless platform why not send me a pm and join us for a drink in angeles, I'm out both tonight and Saturday this week, that way you will know the truth, I won't hold my breath for your pm as your probably just another keyboard warrior that dreams of someday making it to angeles, lets see.

[WestCoast1]

Too much talk about money. Throwback pic. Hot wench on a 3-some. She left several good selfies of herself on the cam. She had trouble not posing. We finished about 2. 5 hours into our time, with 90 minutes remaining, one of them had a cheap touchpad phone with camera, and they took a bunch of single pics and selfies together. Then they asked me to use her phone and take pics of the two of them together. The never met a camera (or mirror) they didn't like. After the clothed selfies I offered to walk them back to their bar, but they said it was too soon to go back, the mama might think I was angry with them. They wanted a drink at Tropix, so we went and watched the floor show for 45 minutes. You get a threesome and 2 pops, then you take 2 honies out for a drink and floor show. All in, including drinks, it was about 1/4 the price of a current barfine.

Part of the pinay intangibles. AC has changed.