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11-08-11 06:11 #9449
Posts: 1454Originally Posted by Henryv [View Original Post]
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11-08-11 06:08 #9448
Posts: 15956Originally Posted by Henryv [View Original Post]
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11-08-11 05:56 #9447
Posts: 836Forgot to add, no means no, even if you have paid the bar fine. Just take the girl back to the bar, or go yourself. Hopefully you can say: "either give me my money back or, like Gecko's, this will be all over the internet." That is the real reason we should show some solidarity by telling Gecko's we know what happened!
Originally Posted by Henryv [View Original Post]
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11-08-11 05:07 #9446
Posts: 836notwithstanding the fact i agree no means no, your statement: "they do not have to sex you just because you have paid the bar fine" is somewhat sophomoric. what do they think is behind the reason for bfing, discussing field density and it's relationship to gravitational phenomenon?
the other point here, again to protect "us," is to let them know "word gets around."
Originally Posted by frenzy3 [View Original Post]
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11-07-11 20:01 #9445
Posts: 2502Originally Posted by GreenBud [View Original Post]
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11-07-11 18:07 #9444
Posts: 130Originally Posted by Wadman [View Original Post]
That dude has seen the whole movie when it comes to bargirl antics. If he says Gecko's is bad news, you can bank that.
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11-07-11 11:49 #9443
Posts: 592Originally Posted by furryfriend [View Original Post]
at least cherry girls are upfront about the no sex part (no vaginal sex, anyway).
cherry girls are usually the better looking girls. they make money sucking back lady drinks. and yes, sometimes they are so alluring some guys can't resist in barfining them. doesn't need to sexless btw, lots of cherry girls will do hand jobs, blow jobs, some even take it up the ass.
my point still stands: if a girl (cherry or otherwise) doesn't want to barfine, fair enough. if she does, and she agreed to boom boom, then yes! the guy has a right to expect it! not that you can enforce the deal in the pi, mind you.
Originally Posted by furryfriend [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by furryfriend [View Original Post]
i am not disputing this. just realize that most guys barfine girls for sex, and if the girl is not forthcoming (unless this was made clear before you barfined her) then it's time to name the girls, the bars, and stay away from them.
one strategy guys are using to combat the non-performers is to do sneak-outs: broker a deal with the girl to come by on her own (outside of bar hours). that way you don't pay anything upfront. girls are more than happy to do a st for 1000 p, some maybe even 700 p (caveat: maybe not the spotlight cultural dancers, i rarely deal with them anyway). theoretically speaking, there is nothing to prevent the girl from showing up, not do anything, and still demand money. but i have not heard of any such cases.
Originally Posted by furryfriend [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by furryfriend [View Original Post]
problem is, the word needs to spread that you are a big tipper before girls' behaviours change. otherwise, how do they know? maybe i should walk around with a button that advertises my tipping rates.
Originally Posted by furryfriend [View Original Post]
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11-07-11 10:22 #9442
Posts: 389Originally Posted by GreenBud [View Original Post]
My experienced with these girls are, their BJ skills are horrible and that it usually turns out to be more of a HJ.
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11-07-11 10:16 #9441
Posts: 762Originally Posted by Amjeck [View Original Post]
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11-07-11 10:03 #9440
Posts: 888Originally Posted by FurryFriend [View Original Post]
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11-07-11 09:11 #9439
Posts: 1454Originally Posted by Wadman [View Original Post]
If you let a girl scam you by refusing sex after you payed the barfine, then you are giving up your power to her. PI is a man's town. Lets keep it that way.
I'm curious to know how many guys actually get scammed this way?
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11-07-11 07:30 #9438
Posts: 389Originally Posted by wadman [View Original Post]
a lot of guys, particularly older asian men, just barfine girls to go barhopping, drinking and have a sexless sleepover. in fact, the very concept of "cherry girls" contridict your claims that sex must be on the table.
sometimes, i see some korean guy barfine 6 girls. i doubt he's having sex with all 6.
the point is, if the girl doesn't perform sexually, there is nothing you can do except return to the bar for a refund. any attempt to change her mind, no matter how politely, and you can wind up like "john" in the latest harry the horse article (where john got charged for [CodeWord123]).
ultimately, nothing is guarateed just because you paid a barfine. this is one major weakness of ac mongering: the requirement that you pay first. and this is why the koreans are owning fields. they have a reputation for also paying after the deed (in the form of a big tip) which is why the most desirable girls seem to love them. hence, that's why i'd like to see a stronger tipping culture on fields.
Originally Posted by sammon [View Original Post]
since john's credibility is questionable, there may be little justification to boycott geckos. first, boycotts don’t work. i’d be surprised if even 1 in 1000 visitors to angeles city read this forum or harry’s newsletter (many visitors are asian and probably don't read english anyway). second, even if the girl was a scammer, she might have done it on her own accord without the bar’s involvement.
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11-07-11 00:49 #9437
Posts: 28Henry.
Originally Posted by Henryv [View Original Post]
I also agree to let people know about it. One reason I'm on this forum is to stay informed. I've already told most of my friends and they ALL appreciate the information. Nobody here knows the truth but we all know SOMETHING HAPPENED! And if anyone decides to continue to frequent Geckos they can, at the very least, use a little more discretion and caution.
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11-07-11 00:19 #9436
Posts: 28hey poopbunny.
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Originally Posted by daboy12 [View Original Post]
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11-06-11 16:17 #9435
Posts: 3281Originally Posted by frenzy3 [View Original Post]
this is the first time i have heard barfined girl going to the police. girl probably will loose her job but with so many bars she can get a job in another bar.
for the full info for fellow mongers i wish harry and also the guy open up and say what exactly happened. we can learn from the ordeal and take precautions accordingly.
i have barfined maybe a hundred or more girls over the years and never had this problem. yes, i have had runners. yes, i never hold them back. it is better to be alone than with a whiner in the room.