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06-04-11 19:17 #8625
Posts: 50Originally Posted by Amjeck [View Original Post]
In comparison, Manila girls will almost always "negotiate" 1000-2000 tip in the EDSA bars, else they won't go, that has been my experience, they get nothing from the barfine.
Cebu is more of a mixed bag, but at the end of the night the girl generally gains 1000-1500 total between barfine cut and tip. That is the general rule unless you are Korean, then its easily triple that number to the girl, they just don't care.
I profess that we must tip something for the better girls otherwise there is no benefit for a great performance. They would all just be runners because they give your one pop then they are out, they already have their money and you can't complain to mamasan. Are you kidding me? Why in the world would they go LT with you when they could do 3 or 4 ST in a night, for the better looking girls? They ain't doing this because they like you, most are living on a bag of chips and a coke a day, most live on less than 100 pesos per day. I could however agree to 0 for runner. 100 for good ST, maybe 200-400 for LT good experience. I have dated some of these girls for long periods, I know how they think, it's all about the money to them.
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06-04-11 18:50 #8624
Posts: 1454Originally Posted by Botaki6 [View Original Post]
But to tell everyone not to tip is like telling everyone to wear a condom. People will do what they want always.
I don't believe in spoiling anyone in the 3rd world. Let's face it, places like AC are good because they are cheap. Suppose the prices were double or triple in AC and every girl was a total spoiled *****. Would you still patronize the place? Spoiling the pinoys ads zero benefit. Keep them poor and needy or else they won't need mongers any more.
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06-04-11 18:44 #8623
Posts: 1454Originally Posted by Natty Bumpo [View Original Post]
I find it the other way around. From my experience, Thais never ask or expect tips, but AC pinos do.
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06-04-11 18:22 #8622
Posts: 592Originally Posted by Fast Eddie 48 [View Original Post]
"- 0 for runners, real crappy performance."
So not sure why that comment was directed at us.
On another note.
So what is a really good performer? How about if she stays with you 24 hours a day (taking the girl multiple days of course) and initiate more rounds than you can handle. To the point where your say: no more! My dick is too sore.
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06-04-11 17:56 #8621
Posts: 50Originally Posted by Fast Eddie 48 [View Original Post]
Sounds like I have been to generous for LT, maybe I should be tipping in the 500-700 range for LT and good performance. I'll have to give that a go next time and see the response.
To the guys that say "no way, no tip, ever", I like to think of it as an incentive. Obviously, the girl is not aware that I am going to tip her to start with, so yeah, maybe they are surprised that I will tip. I like the girl to know, or at least think in her mind, that her great effort to please a guy might pay off. Especially if I plan on taking her again. Same principal as tipping in restaurants. Really, a $3-$5 tip ain't going to make a big difference to me. If a girl is LT and only a fair a performer, then yeah she is getting 500 or less. It really depends on the situation. I guess I could make it something like 200 a pop, after the first one.
I don't agree dropping a lot of cash to have fun, there are at least 6000 girls on Field's alone, granted most are not lookers, but at the end of the night the result is all the same. But I do like to throw a small incentive for a great experience.
Definitely would like to hear more opinions on tipping, especially in AC. I plan to make many more trips there soon.
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06-04-11 17:18 #8620
Posts: 376Originally Posted by Natty Bumpo [View Original Post]
Anyway this is the AC thread not Pattaya. My week in AC the first girl I took I walked her back to her boarding house in the morning. Talking to members here before my trip I was wary of overtipping. She did not seem to expect a tip and she was already home so I did not give her one. The next night I got a runner so there was no chance for a tip. The next night I met an Australian guy and then met him for breakfast after. He gave his girl a substantial tip (700-1000 I think) and thus shamed me into tipping my girl 400. After that I gave my LT girls 200-300 and ST nothing and everyone seemed happy with that. My last 2 nights were spent with the same girl including my last night which was her night off. I did not tip her after the first night and gave her 1500 when she left. I figured she would normally get around 700 from her share of the EWR so that would work out to around an 800 tip for 2 nights. I do not know if she thought that was fair or not but she pesters me now all the time via email wondering when I am coming back.
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06-04-11 17:04 #8619
Posts: 979Never ever!
Never ever tip. Its a bad habit of simple minded people to increase their mediocre status in the society.
Did you ever tip your dentist if he pulls a teeth?
Did you ever tip your mechanic for changing oil on your wreck?
Did you ever tip your wife for serving you?
Why then tipping a working girl for a job done on a price agreed earlier? Not logic for me at all.
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06-04-11 16:11 #8618
Posts: 3040Originally Posted by Amjeck [View Original Post]
In my 5 day first time AC trip, I exclusively took girls out of small Fields Street Bars like Dirty Duck, Gecko, Lollipops, and Body Shop. The EWR was always 1500p. Every AC Filipina bar girl showed me a good time in the bar and at my hotel. I had no runners or non performers. I tipped the girls 200p or 300p each. They appreciated it, but I got the feeling that they did not really expect it unlike their Thai cousins. From my experience then, I recommend tipping 200p to 300p for a 1500p EWR bar girl (13% to 20%) but only if she shows you a good time. Don't be stingy. These girls deserve a little something extra when they do a good job. On the other hand, a tip should be strictly at the discretion of the customer. Do not reward less than very good performance. You do not have to tip if you do not want to.
I agree that flipping an AC bar girl a 1000p tip to be a little crazy. That works out to a 33% tip for a 3000p EWR showgirl or a ridiculous 67% tip for a 1500p EWR girl. But it is up to the guy. Those big tippers must perceive some kind of return on their extravagance or they are just irrational. I don't think it impacts the market too much. The girls view these big tippers as a rarity.
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06-04-11 14:36 #8617
Posts: 1454Originally Posted by Kirra Dude [View Original Post]
Now I know why AC girls are so bitchy. These tips are so high, but I guess this is today's AC, not yesterdays. Everything changes!
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06-04-11 12:03 #8616
Posts: 698Don't buy LDs
Originally Posted by Apeman 28 [View Original Post]
Of course, the romantics among us won't like this idea, but they probably shouldn't be mongering in the first place.
Other guys have mentioned on here to chose the girl that "picks you", and that's an option too, but I've found that most of those girls look like dogs. They have to be aggressive to make any money. But, that's an option as well.
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06-04-11 10:53 #8615
Posts: 12Thanks Cyber whip
So I guess the both places end up fairly similar in price for the girls. Cool. I can't wait to get there. I must admit I'm a big fan of choclate big brown nipples and know that Thai birds nips are sensationally big and choclate. Have checked the pinay girls and you seem to get I some of those higher priced girls. There is one place that is a complete rip-off, can'ta wide selection so something to look foreward too. Thanks for the info. Hoping for an October landing so might see ya there. Remember the name but its a big place in the back of another place, anyways the barfine was something crazy like 4000+ and the girls there for the most part didn't seem to be any nicer than the ones in the smaller joints. 1500 price. It seems most places the girl gets about half the barfine.
Everyone has their own opinions on tipping but my experience is:
0-500 for short time or runners, depending on the experience.
500-1000 for long time, again depending on the service.
Most time the girl is very appreciative that I give them anything, so these numbers may be high, or it was just my false impression.
Also, one other thing, they like to call it "early work release" instead of barfine there. Technically you are buying a certain number of lady drinks, usually 10, to allow her to leave the bar. Unfortunately you don't actually get those drinks and the girl. .
Like I said, I have limited time there, so feel free to correct me on any of these numbers. I have a "regular contact" working there, so, I can get some additional info if you need it. Looking forward to getting back there very soon for extended stay. [/QUOTE]
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06-04-11 09:39 #8614
Posts: 74Days of the week
Does the bar scene especially on Fields differ much according to the day of the week? Are certain days busier with more customers, and are certain days better for overall selection of the ladies? I mainly come to Angeles during the week (Monday. Thursday) and I wonder if things are different on Friday / Saturday.
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06-04-11 08:50 #8613
Posts: 83Originally Posted by Droplet [View Original Post]
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06-04-11 07:18 #8612
Posts: 4114Tipping a runner
Originally Posted by Wadman [View Original Post]
I will never tip a runner no way don't spoil the market most we should tip is 500 peso if service is good and she stay until the morning, if you tip a runner that tell her is ok to leave early.
Fast Eddie 48
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06-04-11 07:08 #8611
Posts: 592Originally Posted by Cyber Whip [View Original Post]
ST:
- 0 if the girl has a lot of BS excuses, just did not deliver at all on what she promised.
- 200 for average performance.
- 500 for great performance (which must necessarily include multiple rounds)
LT:
- 0 for runners, real crappy performance.
- 500 if she was average. 2 rounds.
- 1000 if she was great.
Lately, I am more and more inclined to give either all or nothing. So if she tried hard, she gets the full 1000 pesos (for LT). If not, I send her on her way with nothing.
Originally Posted by Cyber Whip [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Cyber Whip [View Original Post]