Angeles City

[RainMania]

For guys who are happy to barfine from Korean bars, be aware you're barfining their leftovers. Now many of those leftovers are still attractive girls, but the most desirable girls on roster have already been pre-booked on k-social media apps we aren't privy to and wouldn't even be given access to if we asked, they're for k-clientele only. For some western customers, this wouldn't be an issue as a nut is a nut anyway, particularly if it's a girl you're attracted to. For others this level of disrespect, while charging us full barfine prices for the privilege, just doesn't fly.

That is why I personally don't spend my money in k-run bars. I didn't fly thousands of miles to get treated like a second class citizen while paying for the pleasure of it.

[Pussycat123]

If you read the post of others here, many have said that they have gone to Korean bars and had no issues with bar fining the girls. If they are enforcing a Korean customer only mandate, they are doing a very poor job. It is up to the girl whether they want to go.

Yup, I've had no problem barfining in Korean bars, on Walking St at least. Maybe there are a few overpriced KTVs in Friendship that are Korean only but who the fuck cares.

As for the 9 k barfine, that's in Barnana which is one of the worst bars in Walking St. The girls in there are no better than other places. Most of the Korean bars such as Baccarra, Skyfall etc are 5 k for LT.

The fact is, money talks. A lot of guys just like to whine because prices are relatively higher than they were in 1975 when Angeles was a backwater with a huge US base in the middle of it.

I'm white but I have to say some of the old white guys I see in Angeles are just fucking gross. I don't know how the girls can be with them. From an appearance standpoint, the Koreans look goofy with their handbags but they arent 300 lbs with a beer gut. Most of the girls seem to have at least basic standards about who they go with.

[WestCoast1]

But I greatly appreciate. Your post. As I will be taking my non-asian american $$$ else where. 9,000 K for a bar fine?

The OP mentioned Bar Nana, which is a K-run, high-end specialty shop in the evenings right in the middle of WS. Cost is higher in BN than the other bars (p4-5 k typical in other bars). You would have known that had you bothered to RTFF.

You mentioned 9000 K. Its possible that you are off by a factor of 1000. Your 9000 K = 9 million pesos (about $180,000 USD). I think you mean p9000 (the barfine amount), or p9 K, about $180 USD.

Did that include the girls payment?

Yes, AC barfines are all-inclusive. Again, please RTFF.

[SportMongr]

Don't be that guy Tucker Carlson, Anyone with half a brain does not pay $590 for an everyday session in Mexico in any city. Also, Mexico tends to be a short flight from the US / Canada for most, so the 24 +hours to arrival time, the 13-15 hours of direct flight time being cramped in like cattle, along with the $1500- 2,000 airfare ticket to do so. Is heavily weighted into the idea I should not be spending $150-$200 on a hit or miss bargirl.

Its expensive compared to pre covid.

Its expensive compared to the Clark Base days pre 1990.

But its damn cheap compared to other locations.

Case in point look at the Guadalajara, Mexico page on ISG. Someone went in a gogo bar there:

$60 cover charge.

$29 ladies drinks.

$590, YES FOLKS FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY US DOLLARS barfine for ST (10,000 mexican pesos).

AND PEOPLE ARE STILL BITCHING ABOUT $90 ANGELES BARFINES FOR OVERNIGHT STAYS?

Oy vey.

[MoonShot]

I am in the same. Visiting the PI for the first time in 7 years+ AC was already in the decline with Korean invasion. By no means do I have an issue with any culture- I am a world traveler and appreciate diversity but here's the problem. When the Korean ownership group came in and bought up all the clubs and then advise the ladies to only date Korean / Asian. That is not cool. There is no other culture that does this? Travel to the DR. The locals don't say you can't date gringos or asians. Travel Euro zones and it is an Equal opportunity environment. It's up to the lady. If she likes black dudes, she has the right to sleep with Black, white, mexican etc. Travel to Latino countries. Nobody sets up shop and demands the workers only F white dudes.

I have my theories why Asian management creates exclusive asian only clubs. I think we all know why. At the same time. It creates animosity I have towards these types of passport buddies and their ownership group. So yes the Korean invasion is a problem if you are not asian.

But I greatly appreciate. Your post. As I will be taking my non-Asian american $$$ else where. 9,000 K for a bar fine? Did that include the girls payment? This is a small part of the exclusivity agreement, old members remember the (5, 5 ,5) tag line LOL. Guess it's more like (10-15, 5, 5).

If you read the post of others here, many have said that they have gone to Korean bars and had no issues with bar fining the girls. If they are enforcing a Korean customer only mandate, they are doing a very poor job. It is up to the girl whether they want to go.

[SportMongr]

Not really seeing a difference in what you do and the Koreans. You fly in for a few days, spend a lot of cash and fly out to meet the family.

I am in the same. Visiting the PI for the first time in 7 years+ AC was already in the decline with Korean invasion. By no means do I have an issue with any culture- I am a world traveler and appreciate diversity but here's the problem. When the Korean ownership group came in and bought up all the clubs and then advise the ladies to only date Korean / Asian. That is not cool. There is no other culture that does this? Travel to the DR. The locals don't say you can't date gringos or asians. Travel Euro zones and it is an Equal opportunity environment. It's up to the lady. If she likes black dudes, she has the right to sleep with Black, white, mexican etc. Travel to Latino countries. Nobody sets up shop and demands the workers only F white dudes.

I have my theories why Asian management creates exclusive asian only clubs. I think we all know why. At the same time. It creates animosity I have towards these types of passport buddies and their ownership group. So yes the Korean invasion is a problem if you are not asian.

But I greatly appreciate. Your post. As I will be taking my non-asian american $$$ else where. 9,000 K for a bar fine? Did that include the girls payment? This is a small part of the exclusivity agreement, old members remember the (5, 5 ,5) tag line LOL. Guess it's more like (10-15,5, 5).

[Member #4794]

Missed this last part before. Is there such a place?

Even the self proclaimed king of angeles city overstayroad aka marcos got a ring and phone stolen from him among other things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP3TfL8IeS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rW5phirHlw


Acebachelor is so braindead he got his whole life stolen from, him in broad daylight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsAEuNCf7GA

You are right drunk guys get cleaned out universally the world over. This even happens in Japan may be the safest place I've visited on the planet and the only time you may be in danger is when you are black out drunk.

[Skyrben]

Had a few drinks tonight at Lollipop. Place was almost full already at 20.00 when I stepped in. Found an empty bar stool at the back of the dancing stage. There was a Caucasian dude next to me and 4-5 girls in front of him having drinks. I thought this is a good spot to look at the ladies. Well the fun part stopped really soon when I realized that the guy was howling like a hyena same time the ladies amused him by showing their pussy and kissing each other. I changed my seat to another table further away before getting pissed off. The bar girl I was drinking with told me that the howling guy was a regular customer and he spends 30-40 k per night for drinks and tips. Good customer for the bar for sure. But I don't get it why he had to shout like a fucking retard all the time.

Then there was another drunk fool at the other end of the bar tipping girls with 100 Pesos and banging their g-strings like a slingshot and making all kinds of weird hand signs. Some of the girls left the stage because of this idiot's behaviour. What a geezer.

Line up was mediocre.

[WestCoast1]

Absolutely insane. Watch yourself here. This is not the place to get black out drunk.

Missed this last part before. Is there such a place?

[Ronin63]

Not really seeing a difference in what you do and the Koreans. You fly in for a few days, spend a lot of cash and fly out to meet the family.

Long time monger, first time poster on here.

Been to Angeles several times before, most recently in 2017 and 2019 pre-covid with good experiences. This trip in 2024 was my first time back in 5 years so was interested to see what has changed.

Managed to get away from the wife and family during a recent vacation to Taiwan for a couple days and make my way back to Angeles. A little background on me, 30 years old, American born Asian, good shape and build.

Stayed at Central Park Tower as I had in my previous trips. Rooms still look the exact same LOL, but no complaints and well worth the $100 USD daily rate to get a corner room up on the 10th floor with the bathtub and shower.

Landed in the new Clark airport on a Tuesday morning straight from the states (transfer in taipei). $300 peso ride direct to hotel from airport and checked in with no issues. Took a nap until 5 pm and went straight to walking street to see what's changed. Being my first trip in 5 years, didn't even bother to research on here before arriving (should have in hindsight).

People watched like many do for an hour at Kokomos and taking it all in before hitting up the bars. I randomly asked an older man next to me which bars were good and he recommended a couple further down walking street. First observations were that a lot has changed since 2019, definitely less people overall, and more Korean presence. A couple of the bars I remember going to before had closed as well further down walking street, specifically in the alleys before hitting McDonalds.

Started my first night at Genesis around 6 pm. Bar was fairly empty, maybe 10 girls onstage of which none interested me. A couple girls sitting on the side I was told were models and would be going up later. They looked nicer, one girl caught my eye, looked fairly new, but was taken by another guy already. Made my way slowly back towards center of walking street, nothing really stood out until I stumbled upon Bar Nana. This one was new to me, don't remember it back in 2019. Interesting rules, can't go in to look at the girls even without buying a drink (which I did). Much smaller bar, I was told 6-10 girls max working per night. When I arrived around 8 pm, there were 6 left, all skinny and good looking by most standards. One caught my eye, bought her a drink and made good convo before deceiving to barfine her. Bar Nana is definitely not cheap, was told the price was 9 k peso which I paid regardless. Girl promptly changed, we drank back at my hotel room and snuck in a quickie before she took me to Mega Dance for the rest of the night. Finished again around 2 am and she stayed the next morning until 11 am before leaving. No complaints for night 1.

Day 2 more or less the same, slept for majority of day before getting ready to hit the street again around 5. This time, I started at XS, which I highly recommend. Good shows every hour and good atmosphere. One girl caught by eye, bought her a drink but was told she only ST no matter what and doesn't stay the night. Makes sense when I realized how frequent the Koreans would call this 1 specific girl over later in the night. Made my way back to Bar Nana curious what other girls would look like there. This time, same arrival time 8 pm, there was only 1 girl left, who didn't interest me.

Made my way back to XS where I stumbled upon the blacktape model show. Woah now this I will say is tops for me on this trip. One caught my eye immediately and I had the waitress call her over to me. Made good convo and was told the barfine was 6 k. As others have said, majority of girls at XS apparently do no barfine with anyone but Asians and this is what this one specific girl told me as well. Barfined her promptly and repeated the same routine as night before, took her back to my room where we drank before hitting tje dance clubs. Difference with this girl is she stayed through the next day in the room until 4 pm, when I told her I'd take her again. Spent the next 2 days with her and had typical GFE with no complaints whatsoever.

Overall, would say my experience was great, even better than what I remember from 2017 and 2019 (those trips were good as well). I would say make sure you find a girl that gives good energy and vibes before bar fining her, as well as keeping it light and having a good sense of humor. As others have said, negatives would be that there is absolutely nothing else to do in this city other than drink / bang, and the food quality is sub-par. One discovery I made this trip was the Wild Aces poker room, which I highly recommend if trying to kill some time during the day. Just keep in mind the local players here are doing it for a living and won't play any hand unless they have high odds pre-flop. Most of the korean food I ate this trip was average at best, and I'd rather eat that than jolibee / mcd shit. Any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask and look forward to returning in December!

[Skyrben]

Mongering is like gambling. After a losing streak, for example you pick a girl with a stretch marked mommy belly or deflated saggy tits because she hid them well under her clothes or the girl turns out to be cold in bed or you have a flagging erection because the girl decides to pick a fight about using a condom for a blow job despite promising bare, you start to question the whole endeavor. Maybe you should just quit this whole mongering thing. Too much hassle for MILFs with poor service. Might as well jerk off for free. Then you hit the jackpot: May at Skyfall. Heartbreakingly beautiful 18 yo with perfect breasts and perfect skin. And all is right with the world. I took her upstairs to see the pool bar on the roof of ABC Hotel, which she enjoyed, but she didn't want to stay for a round of drinks. She doesn't drink alcohol. Yep. Young. Inexperienced. Feeling overwhelmed, like a fish out of water. The funny part is that once she put on her street clothes to leave, she was totally nondescript. Her breasts and body were completely obscured by the relatively frumpy outfit. Little would anyone know how great she looks naked.

I saw May yesterday at Skyfall. Was looking at the lineup and spotted her without first knowing her name. Asked her name and then if she would have a drink. She refused. Looked scared. Maybe my old western scar face did not meet her standards. She looked fine but not so hot that I would felt bad not getting her to my room.

[Skyrben]

Absolutely insane. Watch yourself here. This is not the place to get black out drunk.

So do you mean that if a mongering tourist gets really drunk a local guy comes and stabbs him? Not likely. This was a fight between two flilipino guys. None of us knows the real reasons behind it. Not even your super sexy barfine.

[Ronin63]

The Philippines regardless of is AC or Subic has increased prices across the board, while service has dropped. Not as many pretty girls, often no BJ, ST only, just an overall bad attitude. Years ago it was paradise. The times have changed, now it's what will you do? Vote with your feet? Cave and pay for lackluster service?

Personally with the influx of Koreans willing to pay, I don't see this changing anytime soon.

[Pussycat123]

I saw the craziest thing last night. Hundred of people were gathered of La Bamba by where the trikes park shouting and filming. All I saw was somebody being sped off in a trike.

I asked my super sexy 23 year old barfine about this and she showed me a video. According to her a bar manager stabbed a Filipino armed service member. Nobody helped, even the two police officers. He was bleeding out but got himself into a trike. He spent about five minutes trying to get someone to drive him to the hospital. Finally a trike drove up to drop someone off, and he took him to the hospital. Absolutely insane. Watch yourself here. This is not the place to get black out drunk.

I heard about this also.

I just saw a video posted on FB. It shows two filipinos fighting outside Champagne bar on WS. One guy falls on the ground and another one with a "Jordan 23" shirt and baseball cap stabs the other guy multiple times with a butchers knife. The stabbed guy gets up and runs towards Kokomos. The stabber calmly walks away down Walking St. The stabbed guy is covered in blood, I heard he died before he reached hospital.

Damn.

[WestCoast1]

Absolutely insane. Watch yourself here.

Watch. . . Where.

Link?