Angeles City

[Irony Monger]

I finally made the Pinatubo tour.

Thanks X, very good review. I've been thinking about doing this hike for some time. I'll look into it next time I am there in the non-rainy season.

[Sammon]

Is Sky Trax pretty crowded, like Lucifer on any given day? I'm still fairly young and do think I have some game, so I'm hoping to be able to just hook up with people that way.

Skytrax gets very crowded on weekends. Many a time there are no places to sit. They charge entry fee with one drink included. There are many unescorted girls. I believe most of them are bargirls who did a runner thing with one of you. One time I caught a girl who did the same thing. I had barfined another girl anyway. There are some local girls trying to hook up. Security with those girls maybe a question mark considering lots of scams and shakedowns.

Always better to barfine a girl and be safe.

[Mr Enternational]

By that, do you mean that Pattaya is a more happening place overall or what?

Yes. There is nothing to do in AC and Manila except fuck, sleep, eat, and go to the mall. But different strokes for different folks. Some like Pepsi and some like Coke.

[Patty Boy]

Sky Trax is hella crowded but the thing is that it is about 1/10 the size of Lucifer.

I'm not sure how much the apartments go for, but I'm pretty sure that having been to Pattaya you would not want to stay in AC or Manila for 2 weeks.

By that, do you mean that Pattaya is a more happening place overall or what?

[Mr Enternational]

Is Sky Trax pretty crowded, like Lucifer on any given day? I'm still fairly young and do think I have some game, so I'm hoping to be able to just hook up with people that way.

How much do the apartments normally go for and are they located close to the action? I might even stay longer than 2 weeks if I can find an affordable place and enjoy my time in AC. Or perhaps go to Manila. Is Manila more dangerous than Angeles City, or vice versa, or are they about the same in terms of safety?

So does this mean they are basically trying to find customers? Or do you mean that they are just the same girls from the bar. I don't really care if they work at the bars or not if I can avoid paying big fees.

Sky Trax is hella crowded but the thing is that it is about 1/10 the size of Lucifer. The drinks are much cheaper in Sky Trax though. I don't think they have anything over 100 pesos. Exotic mixed drinks included.

I'm not sure how much the apartments go for, but I'm pretty sure that having been to Pattaya you would not want to stay in AC or Manila for 2 weeks. Safety is not big on my list. If I ever listened to people or TV about how dangerous places are then I never would have came out of my mother 39 years ago. People are people where ever you go. I hang in some pretty shady places all around the world and have never had one problem. So you might want to get someone else's take on that.

I think the bar girls on DIA are looking for love. Right before I left at 2am I took another girl from the bar that the girl I met works at from 10pm to 1am. She still hounded me about coming to see me while the other one was with me and after she left. As soon as the girl got back to the bar she sent me a message saying "The girl is here n0w can I g0 there n0w pls i want see u pls b4 you live." I let her come after I got my things together; 10 minutes before my trike. She sent me texts up until my plane left.

[X Man]

That doesn't stop them from shouting out something, possibly in Tagalog, to your date. Annoying at the least, but could cause complications. And if you've demanded a bar fine back, as I had to do the other day, what your ex (I sue the term loosely) says might be less than flattering. X.

Why the need to be careful walking past the bar? Once services are performed and the worker is paid the business is complete and each party is free to move on as they wish.

[Patty Boy]

Sky Trax is the disco. I met a Pinay chick in there the other night, believe it or not, who is from and lives in South Carolina. As to freebie or not that all depends on you and your game. The next night I met one who will be a freebie that actually lives in Austria (even wrote her info on her boarding pass) but was home visiting family. She was there with two sisters, a cousin, and an aunt and uncle. They invited me upstairs to their table and fed me and gave me drink. We made plans to meet in Paris soon. I always thought it was only a pick-up disco but now I realize non-working women go there as well. (Speaking of Lucifer: last month there I met a Black chick who went to high school with my brother in the states. Is anywhere safe anymore?)

Is Sky Trax pretty crowded, like Lucifer on any given day? I'm still fairly young and do think I have some game, so I'm hoping to be able to just hook up with people that way.

If you plan on staying 2 weeks (which I think is a long time for AC) then you might want to look into an apartment instead of a hotel. Some of the guys who live there should be able to point you in the right direction.

How much do the apartments normally go for and are they located close to the action? I might even stay longer than 2 weeks if I can find an affordable place and enjoy my time in AC. Or perhaps go to Manila. Is Manila more dangerous than Angeles City, or vice versa, or are they about the same in terms of safety?

I don't want to be a killjoy, but most of the girls you meet on DIA in AC will be the same girls in the bars. Before I went this time I met a chick on there who said she lived in AC. I asked where she worked and she told me XYZ Bar. I told her okay I will visit her there when I arrive. I actually called her and she came to the hotel. The next day when I did visit the bar I saw they had 3 computers set up where the girls do their online hooking up. I have not had any problems with any police setups.

So does this mean they are basically trying to find customers? Or do you mean that they are just the same girls from the bar. I don't really care if they work at the bars or not if I can avoid paying big fees.

[X Man]

I finally made the Pinatubo tour. The views at the caldera are stunning. The last time I inquired about a tour, the agent discouraged me because of rain. The next day a group, including French tourist, were washed away by lahar (mudflow of volcanic ash). Seven were killed. You don't want to do this during rainy season.

I didn't keep good track of time, so please correct me if anyone sees obvious discrepencies. A 6am start, nearly three hours in a jeep. The last hour is off road over lahar and part way up the slopes. Another group went by van and was transferred to jeep later, which is probably a better way to go. The jeep is open air and it can get chilly. The hike is what I would call easy, about an hour each way and nothing extremely steep. Nevertheless, the trails have a lot of rock and lahar sand. It's easy to stumble. The locals did this in sandals, and I did it in regular athletic shoes. It was a weekday and I understand the weekends will have many more visitors. I also heard, but have not confirmed, that the trip is shorter if done from Subic.

The paying hikers consisted of five . Two mid-aged Americans, two 30ish Koreans, a Fil-American. The only woman. The Filipina was very helpful because the guide apparently couldn't speak English. The Koreans were friendly and courteous. Which of course contradicts what some others have said on this message board.

Just before we went off road we stopped to register and I paid 2, 500. Other members had paid the travel agent in advance. Around this time we picked up a guide and a boat man. The jeep was rather crowded.

There was an additional 350 fee if you wanted to rent a boat, incl. Boatman. This had to be paid at the registration center. That being said we talked to someone who had negotiated 250. I also think that if you opted out of the boat, once you get at the caldera lake you could probably arrange something with the guides. Despite the "no swimming" sign, I swam in the caldera lake. Water wasn't as cold as I expected.

The history of the Pinatubo eruption and the Aeta people who lived on the slopes is very interesting. You can find plenty of information on the web. The guide and the boat man were Aeta people. Our guide says he gets paid less than 250 pesos, but they take turns being guides and he gets onlytwo chances a month. And probably no chances in the rainy season. He was tipped well by our group, despite his lack of English.

At the end of the hike we were were fed at the same place as the registration center. It was Filipino food, and it was better than I expected. I think were back on the AC strip sometime before 5, although most tours are probably shorter. We had a few things that slowed us down. Hope that helps if anyone is interested in a Pinatubo hike.

[Mr Enternational]

I had a 7:40am flight out of MNL Monday.

I took a trike at 2:00am from Central Park Hotel for 100 pesos.

I arrived at Dau bus station at 2:10am. The Five Star bus departed for Pasay at 2:15am. 132 pesos.

I arrived in Pasay at 3:33am. (I actually got off at the stop before the one I was supposed to. I remembered the Five Star garage from the time before and got off there. Just so happened there is actually 2 of them. The one I was supposed to get off at was actually another 10 minutes down the road.

I entered a taxi at 3:34am and arrived at the airport at 3:55am. 165 pesos.

Summary: Departed hotel in AC 2:00am arrived MNL 3:55am. 397 pesos. It would have been under 300 pesos if I would have gotten off at the correct stop.

[Mr Enternational]

I am curious whether there are any good discos in town where a guy can go and potentially pull some freebies (much like Lucifer in Pattaya, if you are familiar with that)?

As some of you are discussing, I thought that AC would be a cheap destination but I am more and more starting to think that this will not really be the case due to the cost of the hotel room alone. I am going to be staying at Pacific Breeze, which was recommended by some people on this site as a budget place to stay, but that is $50-60 a night (I was unable to book the cheapest room for 2 weeks straight). In Thailand you can probably get a similar room for $25 or even cheaper if you really wanted.

However, since I have never been to AC, I thought that it was definitely a place I had to visit at least once, so that's why I'm going in 2 weeks. Since the cost of the room is more expensive, I am trying to find ways to mix up my activities from meeting girls in bars to also meeting them on dateinasia. Com and potentially discos. Also, is it common for someone to get scammed by picking up women either through disco or dateinasia. Com (e. G. Police setup or things like that)?

Sky Trax is the disco. I met a Pinay chick in there the other night, believe it or not, who is from and lives in South Carolina. As to freebie or not that all depends on you and your game. The next night I met one who will be a freebie that actually lives in Austria (even wrote her info on her boarding pass) but was home visiting family. She was there with two sisters, a cousin, and an aunt and uncle. They invited me upstairs to their table and fed me and gave me drink. We made plans to meet in Paris soon. I always thought it was only a pick-up disco but now I realize non-working women go there as well. (Speaking of Lucifer: last month there I met a Black chick who went to high school with my brother in the states. Is anywhere safe anymore?)

If you plan on staying 2 weeks (which I think is a long time for AC) then you might want to look into an apartment instead of a hotel. Some of the guys who live there should be able to point you in the right direction.

I don't want to be a killjoy, but most of the girls you meet on DIA in AC will be the same girls in the bars. Before I went this time I met a chick on there who said she lived in AC. I asked where she worked and she told me XYZ Bar. I told her okay I will visit her there when I arrive. I actually called her and she came to the hotel. The next day when I did visit the bar I saw they had 3 computers set up where the girls do their online hooking up. I have not had any problems with any police setups.

[Mr Enternational]

2) Door girls can be great, but then you have to be careful walking past the bar. I remember being able to stand in front of Kokomo's and see 7 former barfines working doors. I have a problem.

Why the need to be careful walking past the bar? Once services are performed and the worker is paid the business is complete and each party is free to move on as they wish.

[Patty Boy]

also, i was wondering if there are any experienced mongers here that are kind enough to to take me under their wing maybe for a night to get me up to speed with a few things here? i am planning to be here april 2 to april 22, and potentially extend my stay if i really enjoy it (otherwise it's off to pattaya). i am an asian american in my late 20s, if that matters.

[Patty Boy]

I am curious whether there are any good discos in town where a guy can go and potentially pull some freebies (much like Lucifer in Pattaya, if you are familiar with that)?

As some of you are discussing, I thought that AC would be a cheap destination but I am more and more starting to think that this will not really be the case due to the cost of the hotel room alone. I am going to be staying at Pacific Breeze, which was recommended by some people on this site as a budget place to stay, but that is $50-60 a night (I was unable to book the cheapest room for 2 weeks straight). In Thailand you can probably get a similar room for $25 or even cheaper if you really wanted.

However, since I have never been to AC, I thought that it was definitely a place I had to visit at least once, so that's why I'm going in 2 weeks. Since the cost of the room is more expensive, I am trying to find ways to mix up my activities from meeting girls in bars to also meeting them on dateinasia. Com and potentially discos. Also, is it common for someone to get scammed by picking up women either through disco or dateinasia. Com (e. G. Police setup or things like that)?

[Cherry2000]

Can anyone recommend a hotel with adjoining bedroom or at least two queen beds for a wingman? It makes it alot easier to stay organized plus we may be able to switch.

Affinity condo resort has beautiful two bedroom apartments,

www Affinitycondoresort dot com.

Its a great hotel, quiet and only 1mnute from the jeepney terminal.

Very safe and very clean including very friendly staff

[Levitraboner]

Can anyone recommend a hotel with adjoining bedroom or at least two queen beds for a wingman? It makes it alot easier to stay organized plus we may be able to switch.