Angeles City

[Philosophery]

- The taxi situation at the airport has improved! In the past, as you exit the terminal, there would be a mad chaotic rush of taxi people soliciting you for rides. Now, passengers get into orderly lines. Definitely much more civilized.

Are you talking about Manila airport or Clark airport?

[FurryFriend]

I'm just about winding up my fourth trip to Angeles. Some observations:

- The taxi situation at the airport has improved! In the past, as you exit the terminal, there would be a mad chaotic rush of taxi people soliciting you for rides. Now, passengers get into orderly lines. Definitely much more civilized.

- The new Forbidden City bar sucks. I much prefer smaller Fields bars and Perimeter bars as they're more intimate and friendly. I hope these Walmart of bars won't eventually drive away smaller bars on Fields.

- I've begun to find some of the waitresses to be better looking than most of the dancers. I think being a waitress is a better job than being a dancer. No standing up there doing some stupid dance. And because waitresses interact with customers, they have a better chance of being bought drinks and being bar-fined. Not to mention, they collect tips or extra money from customers telling them to "keep the change".

- There are now tons of trans-sexual activity near Blow Row. Although that stuff doesn't offend me, the folks there sometimes make cat calls and comments to passerbys. Those comments kinda grosses me out.

- There are less random people sitting next to you trying to get you to buy drinks. In the past, I'd be minding my own business in a bar and some girl (not a waitress) suddenly sits next to me and starts talking. Often, they're so bold as to say "so, are you gonna buy me a drink?". I'm glad this kind of activity has decreased.

- One annoyance are street vendors walking into bars trying to sell snacks, condoms and roses. Nothing is more annoying than you trying to make rapport with a girl and some vendor hovers over you with a box of peanuts and won't go away.

[The Rooster1]

Dunno if this is in the wrong thread.

Have rtff.


2. Any probs gettin to AC at that hour of the morning? I want to do the trip as cheap as possible. Firstly 'cause I'm a cheap charlie & secondly 'cause it's often more fun this way, collecting life experiences & ancedotes. I have the $ to hop into a cab/limo, but that's cheating/boring.

Saw this in a prev. Post:

'As you exit the airport after clearing customs, go outside and turn to your left. There is a kiosk where you pay for a taxi in advance. Tell them you want to go to the Pasay bus terminal. It should only cost ˜250 php (US$5.

I understand that adventure is ths spice of life but when its your first time in Manila and AC is a nice ride in a taxi away with some beers on the way for a measly $50 US that you can make up being a cheap charlie in AC, why mess around. I enjoy the adventure, but when I fly into Manila I want to be in AC as FAST AS POSSIBLE. And not fucking around with taxi's, buses, and Trikes with my bags... Arange it with whatever hotel you book and they will be waiting and more then helpful and coool. Just my advice, and you will be back and can navigate better with more knowledge next time,,, Take that trip back from AC and see how that goes.....

PEace out!

[The Rooster1]

You're absolutely right, as usual. Sometimes there's way too much tendency here to generalize and stereotype. Thailand, Philippines . . . lots of girls, lots of different situations. But yes, the same basic motivations.

Both have great girls... I have my preference, but if I have to pick 2 spots in asia to work and hang out its the PI and Thailand... Still haven't hit Vietnam and kind of curious.....

[Betong]

Not totally wrong, but according to my experience pinays are after our money too (which is IMHO perfectly fine as long as their service is ok)! Or am I wrong?

You're absolutely right, as usual. Sometimes there's way too much tendency here to generalize and stereotype. Thailand, Philippines . . . lots of girls, lots of different situations. But yes, the same basic motivations.

[Hesekiels]

PI girls are looking for a relationship or marriage. Thai girls are into it for the money.

Not totally wrong, but according to my experience pinays are after our money too (which is IMHO perfectly fine as long as their service is ok)! Or am I wrong?

Cheers!


Hesekiels

[WestCoast1]

Dunno if this is in the wrong thread.

Saw this in a prev. Post:

'As you exit the airport after clearing customs, go outside and turn to your left. There is a kiosk where you pay for a taxi in advance. Tell them you want to go to the Pasay bus terminal. It should only cost ˜250 php (US$5)

2- There are 5-6 different bus companies that travel between Pasay and AC. It really doesn't make any difference which bus line you use as they are mostly all air conditioned, and reasonably comfortable and take around 2 hours. So, when you arrive at Pasay just walk into the terminal and ask anyone where is the next bus to Dau (AC). You almost never have to wait

More than 10-15 minutes. All of these buses cost ˜140 php (less than US$3).

3- There will be multiple stops within Manila but after you get outside of town and onto the North Luzon Expressway, then it is only another 45+ minutes. 4- When you arrive in Dau just get a trike and they will take you directly to your hotel. Depending upon which hotel you shouldn't pay any more than 100-150 php (US$3). Guys, it really doesn't get any easier than this and it is quite safe and pretty comfortable.

Trike from Dau Bus station to your hotel (SHOULD be 70P but you will have to bargain to get that price especially if you have lots of luggage). You CAN do it on a jeepney for under 10P (which you must remind the trike driver while bargaining)'.

This part is correct for the cheap charlie. Taxi from airport to bus station. Catch aircon bus to Dau. From Dau catch tryke to your hotel.

[Sword Fisch]

Dunno if this is in the wrong thread.

Have rtff.

Arriving in early oct (saigon. Manilla) on cebu pacific (lands at 0200 or so).

1. Any probs w/- cebu cancelling flights or is that a thing of the past?

2. Any probs gettin to AC at that hour of the morning? I want to do the trip as cheap as possible. Firstly cause I'm a cheap charlie. Secondly cause its often more fun this way, collecting life experiences & ancedotes. I have the $ to hop into a cab/limo, but that, to me, is cheating.

Saw this in a prev. Post:

'As you exit the airport after clearing customs, go outside and turn to your left. There is a kiosk where you pay for a taxi in advance. Tell them you want to go to the Pasay bus terminal. It should only cost ˜250 php (US$5)

2- There are 5-6 different bus companies that travel between Pasay and AC. It really doesn't make any difference which bus line you use as they are mostly all air conditioned, and reasonably comfortable and take around 2 hours. So, when you arrive at Pasay just walk into the terminal and ask anyone where is the next bus to Dau (AC). You almost never have to wait

More than 10-15 minutes. All of these buses cost ˜140 php (less than US$3).

3- There will be multiple stops within Manila but after you get outside of town and onto the North Luzon Expressway, then it is only another 45+ minutes. 4- When you arrive in Dau just get a trike and they will take you directly to your hotel. Depending upon which hotel you shouldn't pay any more than 100-150 php (US$3). Guys, it really doesn't get any easier than this and it is quite safe and pretty comfortable.

Trike from Dau Bus station to your hotel (SHOULD be 70P but you will have to bargain to get that price especially if you have lots of luggage). You CAN do it on a jeepney for under 10P (which you must remind the trike driver while bargaining)'.

Comments? Suggestions?

I'm planning on staying at:

1. Koala hotel or

2. Vistillana Hotel or

3. Anchorage Inn or

4. Balibago centre hotel or

5. New Liberty Hotel or

6. The Cold Drop or

7. The Red Tulip or

8. Marble inn or

9. Hotel La Casa or

10. Niagara lodge

I really only want to spend 450. 600 p/nite. Hopefully for a fan room w/- bathroom & cable tv. I hate a/cond. Don't need hot water. Don't need pool. I do need an honest security box/locker setup.

Am I dreaming/deluded? Or is this doable? Will I have to up the ante to 7/800 p/nite?

A friend mentioned he had money go missing from the security box at his hotel. Anyone have any bad experiences at any of the above places?

Does AC have a healthy DIA/mall/street pickup scene like cebu apparently has? Or are the bars my only viable option (not really a bar fan, prefer drinking at 7/11's).

I've visited Pattaya many times, but AC has been highly recommended.

I'll never know unless I go, I guess.

Comments, suggestions & tips greatly appreciated. Insults & opprobrium begrudgingly tolerated.

[Matius]

I was in Clarke last week meet up with a girl that took me to a club near the casino just past Fortunes chinnese Rest. It was around 1 am I was pissed I walked in I was the only western in the club and it was packed. The girls took all the gear off and they looked hot 8 to a 9. Have not heard any reports on this club? Has been open long?

Called slam dunk, its not for westerners and it is owned by "connected" Filipino. You were the only westerner in there for a reason. If you know someone you can get in, but they cater to the local Filipino. Those clubs are all over particularly in Manila, but they are always owned by connected Filipino. Slam Dunk is not too expensive, but really expensive in Manila, if you can get in. Sure your girl took care of you, but you've strayed a bit far from the beaten path, even though it is not that far from Fields.

[Oh Ya Papi]

so true my friend so true.

many years ago i took this hottie from Lancealot bar to subic bay, (the beach closest to angeles) anyway is was awesome gfe , 3 days beach swimming video, bars.

but when we started to return on the bus back she turned cold and distant. then at the bar , club, she did not like me and gave me the cold shoulder, when i treated her to a good!!!!!! time!! loving, money, positive vibs!!!!etc.

my friend that lives there sez they have the emotional maturity of 13 year olds. i respected her loved her gave her money. it is like he said they want long term. my city in usa has many phillipininas, for this reason.

i have been to thailand times 2 months at a time. they are proud to be thai and are not desperate to leave. like p.i. chicks ( p.i. is way more poor than mexico!!!) i love thai culture AND language and they are not as jealous more pretty but more hard core. i did have way more freebees in thai land than p.i.

thai chicka , like all thai are promiscuous, no prob. they like fun and are not jealous. i like them both but for me thais are 10 times better.

stay horny my friends!!!!!!!!!!11

Thai girls are very proud of their heritage and the so-called "purity" of their race. I have often heard a Thai girl say "me Thai" when asked why she doesn't want to go to another country with a farang. She can easily separate the sex and money side of it from the "relationship" side because for her there is only one side.
Many (not all) filipinas will do anything to get out of their barangay, city, country and so they see any visiting foreigner as a potential ticket out. Hence they balance up their need to get a monetary reward with the possibility that if they are extra nice to you then you might fall for them and snap them up. They all have this fantasy of finding Mr Right because they ALL know of at least one or more girls that have hit the jackpot.

[The Rooster1]

I was in Clarke last week meet up with a girl that took me to a club near the casino just past Fortunes chinnese Rest. It was around 1 am I was pissed I walked in I was the only western in the club and it was packed. The girls took all the gear off and they looked hot 8 to a 9. Have not heard any reports on this club? Has been open long?

Yes, I was with a local girl that brought me to that club. WHen I was there it was a two song set. First set clothed, second set completely naked. The girls were definitely 7 -9's. The local girl kept wanting me to take one up to one of the VIP rooms, but was in the mood to just relax. She said anything goes in the VIP room.. It's a good sense also of what the locals think is hot. Curves, on the white side, and a nice size rack..

I was the only westener in there too and felt very comfortable..

[Philosophery]

Taxi, special bus, regular bus, fly

You can fly from Cebu or other cities. Manila? I don't know.

Search for Swagman and/ or FLY THE BUS for a 600 bus trip from Swagman Hotel near the Ermita Church.

Regular bus is cheapest, but only for the true budget traveler or adventurer.

Taxi is probably best value for money. I would think it costs less than 2000, but others should share information about prices.

I have found that the Margaritaville limo pick-up from Manila airport to Angeles is fairly reasonable (P2750). The price is per car (not per passenger). So if you are traveling with a wingman (or 3), the shared cost for the trip is reasonable

http://www.margarita-station.com/update.html

[WestCoast1]

They all have this fantasy of finding Mr Right because they ALL know of at least one or more girls that have hit the jackpot.

The want to find 'a right guy'.

[Five10]

GEOMANIA Apartelle, just had a dreadful experience there. Dreadful.

See full report in Travel Plans and announcements.

Five10

[Red Kilt]

PI girls are looking for a relationship or marrage. Thai girls are into it for the money.

Thai girls are very proud of their heritage and the so-called "purity" of their race. I have often heard a Thai girl say "me Thai" when asked why she doesn't want to go to another country with a farang. She can easily separate the sex and money side of it from the "relationship" side because for her there is only one side.
Many (not all) filipinas will do anything to get out of their barangay, city, country and so they see any visiting foreigner as a potential ticket out. Hence they balance up their need to get a monetary reward with the possibility that if they are extra nice to you then you might fall for them and snap them up. They all have this fantasy of finding Mr Right because they ALL know of at least one or more girls that have hit the jackpot.