Angeles City

[Horntoad]

Couple of questions please lads -------

1) Is the new hotel Lewis Grand very far from the action.

2) Is Angeles City free of ladyboys or do I need to keep alert.

JRC, AC is pretty free of ladyboys unlike BKK. As far as Lewis Grand is concerned, it depends on what you consider far from the action. If you like to hang out on Perimeter Rd, then it is pretty close to everything. If you are more of a Fields guy, then it is not as convenient. I prefer to stay around Fields because most of the bars are there and Perimeter is more mellow and more for daytime action. It is a little hike from Lewis Grand to Fields and with the humidity and/or rain, its no fun to walk. Also I don't like dealing with the trike drivers.

My friend stayed at Lewis Grand and it is a nice hotel. I could see they were still working out the kinks. As for me, I stayed at Pacific Breeze because of the convenience.

[Jimmy Red Cab]

Couple of questions please lads -------

1) Is the new hotel Lewis Grand very far from the action.

2) Is Angeles City free of ladyboys or do I need to keep alert.

[Jw Inc69]

Hello,

I have stayed two weeks in AC in August. It is the rainy season over there.

Taxi from Manila airport to AC 2.300 Peso PHP and from AC to airport 2.700 Peso PHP by hotel service. I know you could use the bus instead.

Hotel Swiss Chalet: room per night 1.450 Peso PHP, girlfriendly, safe deposit boxes inside room.

Current prices:

- barfine LT from 1.300 to 1.500 Peso PHP

Lt from midnight including morning and afternoon 4 o'clock (p.m.) .. that means 3 fucks ;-)

NOT extra money/tip, food and drinks only for your barfined girl

I have not got information of GoGo bars, because I do not like to go barhopping with my barfine. We have stayed in her bar only or at restaurants.

Please, do not pay per BBFS, do pay per timeline.

The Worst was the small kids in the streets asking for money. NEVER give they something!

This is my barfine for 2 weeks, hope you will be inspired now.

Regards

[Dog Face]

I would to thank everyone for hotel help.

I will be staying at Wld Orchid.

Got a garden suite.

So thanks to all.

[Blink157]

Hello to all,
Im really shocked reading the latest reports here.You guys all believe that its all business in Angeles city?He heHE,yep it certainly is.
Im now in Makati,because l needed a chance for the weekend.l agree to the subject if you long around you able to make friends with the mamasan and listen to her referels.Actually l dont need a mamasan to help me with a girl.If l go for a barfine l just get the girl l like.
After my experience having a angeles city kampangan bargirl as my girlfriend,not recomanded as mine was a golddigger,l love to go out alone,chat the girls up l like and then see what will happen.
Blink

[X Man]

Living in the Philippines is what I meant.

Like Mongering I had a few bad experiences with bar gals who knew it was my last day. Nothing serious, and it may have only been a coincidence.

One incident that I recall was with a gal who I really fancied. I'd barfined her before and she was a tiger in bed on top of giving a good gfe. A few days later, on my last day, I barfined her again. She did a runner. There was no way to complain at the bar since I was a thousands of kilometers away by the time they served up the first beer later that day.

X

Are you sure? Living in AC as ultimate goal? I'm not so sure.
Anyway, everyone is different, but my question, whats the problem
to say a BG "it's my last day"? Never had problems whether last day or first day.
I don't get it.

Cheers!

[Poopbunny]

Despite the interviews its quite possible the chemistry might have changed as the evening had passed. Trying to interview in a noisy bar/club with music blaring and lighting dim/poor may cast a different perspective when in the room.

One girl, despite passing the interview, chatty and friendly, turned out different in the room.

Another, which I thought might be a dud turned out much better and we really clicked.

Not that different from say ST (meeting **** at bar, turned out different in the sack) or say LT (your wife wasn't the woman you married and can't wait to get rid of her).

Things change.

My 2 cents...

[Warbucks]

Are you sure? Living in AC as ultimate goal? I'm not so sure.
Anyway, everyone is different, but my question, whats the problem
to say a BG "it's my last day"? Never had problems whether last day or first day.
I don't get it.

Cheers!

I like to visit the zoo not live there.

[Ekspat]

Someone recently posted (I don't remember the thread, maybe AC) that they learned it was a mistake to say it is "my last day". Yes, huge mistake....and I envy you blokes who can say, "I live here."

Are you sure? Living in AC as ultimate goal? I'm not so sure.
Anyway, everyone is different, but my question, whats the problem
to say a BG "it's my last day"? Never had problems whether last day or first day.
I don't get it.

Cheers!

[HornyGeorge]

Carmex: "Although the mama in Carousel was very helpful on previous nights, but that was because I knew her and we had partied before." Now this is the KEY. Make the mamasan think it is not just a one off deal, that if she steers you right and the girl performs as promised you will come back regularly. If you get a trusted mommy as an ally, she will steer you the cutest new girls when they are FOB from Samar etc.. But toi keep respect you acnnot tolerate ANY BS.

If they start to decline in efficacy, you MUST confront them and tell them that one more disappointment means another mommy will get your business from now on. Don't get angry, smile but firmly make clear there will be no more second chances.

I do not live in the PI but I go regularly and that is almost better than living there from HER perspective. If you LIVE there, it will be harder for her to do other guys. If you are a frequent visitor, she can still do others while you are not there. This is better for you also. Living in AC and having a GF there would be HELL (because they will know if you wander). As much as I love to visit, I would never consider living anywhere in Pampanga (or Zambales).

[X Man]

Doesn't sound like a rant at all -- and I suspect it works well for someone who lives in AC. I've heard it enough from other ISGers to suspect it works for many, but it's not my style. Mong1, shall I assume you ask these questions tactfully, or do you just drop bombs?

Someone recently posted (I don't remember the thread, maybe AC) that they learned it was a mistake to say it is "my last day". Yes, huge mistake....and I envy you blokes who can say, "I live here."

I prefer white lies over full-blown bullshit, so when they ask "how long you stay", I usually give them the number of days in my entire trip. Later, if they seem surprised at my departure date, I just say, "Sorry, I thought you were asking me how many days I stay in Philippines".

Of course if her English is good enough to specify ..."how much longer will you stay", you may have found yourself an English major. That could be a good thing, but I'd have to change my strategy.

I prefer to chat up the girls and look for a good vibe. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I don't talk money either. That usually gives me the going rate, but sometimes creates some conflict. (This is a mute point in AC, but sometimes a headache in MNL or Cebu)

Interesting post Mong1. You do the absolute opposite of what I do, but I guess we both get laid at the end of the day...or morning.

X

Excellent post George. I just want to point out one thing, the only person in the bar you can trust less than a bargirl is a mamasan. Sure, you may be batting 100 so far, but these "ladies" will lie to your face in a heartbeat. I'm not dissagreeing with you at all, but just letting others know that it's not fullproof getting mommy's opinion.

I've in the past and recently had a few mamasans confirm with the girl what I want while standing next to me, all three of us. I know just enough tagalog to know what she was NOT saying. I had to interupt and reconfirm many times. Basically mommy said "Go make him happy and don't leave early.", which would suffice most of the time, but not guaranteed.

Your point number 2 is the real kicker! Most guys won't or will refuse to believe that this is a proper approach. I'm very upfront with any girl I take out. Even the cherry girls and or a girl's first day have heard at least from her friends all the perverted things us porigners like.

Having said all this, I have had great success with just approaching what I think is the hottest girl in the bar and asking these questions quite bluntly. 1. Cherry girl? 2. Mens? 3. Blow Job? 4. Stay until late morning at least? If all yes's then I tell them to change thier clothes. Then I get mommy and tell her what I just said and have her go confirm while the girl is changing. I'm thinking this approach works for me because they know I live here and not going to listen to excuses. BTW, I've just started experimenting with this approach recently so don't take this as how I've always done it.

But, yes, always a but! If I want something "special" and or multiple girls I will buy a lady drink and have a full blown interview. Even break out the "promise to God" and or pinky swear thing to make sure the girl is on board for whatever I'm proposing.

I've only bought one lady drink for a mamasan ever and that was because she would regularly point out and interview girls for me. It was years ago in Champange. Of course she had to sit on my lap and let my hands wander, she knew my lady drink rules! lol

It's been said many times in our hobby, the hunt is half the fun. A lot of guys go out all night long just to have one drunken round with a girl. I've done it myself many times. Nothing wrong with that at all, just remember beer goggles are not a myth.

Wow, this seems like a rant now. So bottom line is, no matter what phase of mongering you are in, be aware, but above all have fun.

Bud

[Carmex]

Have to add about the momasan. Don't believe them for a minute. Momasan in Brown Sugar kept pushing the tequila girl on me after I bought her a LD. On and on about this girl, what she would do, etc. I told her I don't want any bullshit, just ST and good fucking. No, "its too big, it hurts" bullshit. She tells me the girl is a three holer and can take all comers. Well that sealed the deal for me, and I BF the girl. She also called a ST hotel to make sure all was set.

Well, all was not set. The hotel had no room, and neither did the next one. So I ended up in Haven motel. Not bad, and was 350 php for 3 hours. Girl performed like a champ, but was not up for anal. Overall very mechanical and pretty much was just business, much like what I hear about in Thailand. Did not kiss, only BBBJ for about 5 minutes and hopped on top for what she thought would be my finish. Well, I had been with honeyko earlier and was in no mood to finish, but the business like attitude made me just want to finish and get out of there. So after about 40 minutes and some porn on the TV I pulled out and shot on her tramp stamp. Not bad, but off to the shower where she cleaned up with betadine scrub and I had to wash myself. Usually the girls wash me up after we are done.

Paid for the hotel and trike back to Brown Sugar, and we did not say one word to each other. Not even a "see you later" or a kiss. I told her to tell mamasan she was a liar after she got out of the trike.

No anal, no kiss, and a limited BBBJ. Don't trust mamasan to give you the good information. Although the mama in Carousel was very helpful on previous nights, but that was because I knew her and we had partied before. Just do the good interview before you leave so everyone ends up happy. Bummer part was one of the girls in my buddies room the other night stole his camera. Never had that happen to me, but he was a little down about it. After that, I just grabbed my honeyko and rented a big motorcycle and took her down to subic and the Camayan resort. That part was cool, but I still got tired of fucking her after a few days. Still nice to be fucking on the beach in the moonlight though. Read the Subic thread later for a FR.

Very much the low season right now.

Aloha,

Carmex

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[Mongering1]

Excellent post George. I just want to point out one thing, the only person in the bar you can trust less than a bargirl is a mamasan. Sure, you may be batting 100 so far, but these "ladies" will lie to your face in a heartbeat. I'm not dissagreeing with you at all, but just letting others know that it's not fullproof getting mommy's opinion.

I've in the past and recently had a few mamasans confirm with the girl what I want while standing next to me, all three of us. I know just enough tagalog to know what she was NOT saying. I had to interupt and reconfirm many times. Basically mommy said "Go make him happy and don't leave early.", which would suffice most of the time, but not guaranteed.

Your point number 2 is the real kicker! Most guys won't or will refuse to believe that this is a proper approach. I'm very upfront with any girl I take out. Even the cherry girls and or a girl's first day have heard at least from her friends all the perverted things us porigners like.

Having said all this, I have had great success with just approaching what I think is the hottest girl in the bar and asking these questions quite bluntly. 1. Cherry girl? 2. Mens? 3. Blow Job? 4. Stay until late morning at least? If all yes's then I tell them to change thier clothes. Then I get mommy and tell her what I just said and have her go confirm while the girl is changing. I'm thinking this approach works for me because they know I live here and not going to listen to excuses. BTW, I've just started experimenting with this approach recently so don't take this as how I've always done it.

But, yes, always a but! If I want something "special" and or multiple girls I will buy a lady drink and have a full blown interview. Even break out the "promise to God" and or pinky swear thing to make sure the girl is on board for whatever I'm proposing.

I've only bought one lady drink for a mamasan ever and that was because she would regularly point out and interview girls for me. It was years ago in Champange. Of course she had to sit on my lap and let my hands wander, she knew my lady drink rules! lol

It's been said many times in our hobby, the hunt is half the fun. A lot of guys go out all night long just to have one drunken round with a girl. I've done it myself many times. Nothing wrong with that at all, just remember beer goggles are not a myth.

Wow, this seems like a rant now. So bottom line is, no matter what phase of mongering you are in, be aware, but above all have fun.

Bud

[Genghois]

I have to interject here on the matter on all the screening so you don't get a dead fish or bola bola. It's extremely hard to tell how they will be when you get them in your room. I've had it all, wild in the bar, fish in the bed. Shy in the bar, awesome in the bed. Extremely hard to tell what is going to happen in Angeles especially with the women. The good thing, the investment can be minimized. And by that I mean you don't have to barhop and party with them for so long before finding out the hard way. It's up to you, but I'm not into bar hopping with an unknown commodity.

AC (and anywhere else on the planet, but particularly AC) is a crapshoot. But I must stick with the screening course, as per Southbound, on my next trip. It's still leaves a better chance than leaving the bar with nothing agreed. But Pinays are a curious bunch. It certainly isn't Rio!

[HornyGeorge]

while ymmv does always apply, and while predicting performance in the room is like predicting the weather (actually pi weather forecasts read as follows most every day: 60% chance of showers and partly cloudy except in sunny areas. )

while a girl who acts like a wild **** in the bar might be a dead fish in the room, it is much less common for a girl who acts shy in the bar to become an uninhibited tigress in the room.

fyi: bola bola refers to insincere compliments, not excuses or lies like i have to go to hygene now as an excuse to leave early.

back to the imperfect science of prediction, i would add to items at the top of sb's list:

1) ask the mamasan. the mamasans know everything. who swallows, who barebacks, who is a 3 holer, who is on her period, who has a trike driver bf and always leaves after 1 round etc etc etc. other girls may lie about fellow dancers but 99% of the time the mamasans will give you the real scoop. buying her a ladies drink is a small price to pay for invaluable intelligence information.

1a) even better: tell the mamasan there is a tip (200 will suffice) in it for her if the dancer performs like a star. if she performs up to expectations, you go the next day to tip the mamasan (never break your promise or you'll get a bad rep instantly). this also gives that dancer "face" with her peers (for which she will reward you the next time you take her).

2) tell the dancer exactly what you want (forget the shyness, this is angeles and they've heard kinkier requests). for example: "i expect deep throat like max hardcore for an hour with cim, then unlubed anal bareback etc. i want two more rounds before you leave at noon. is that ok?" if she does not agree, word will spread instantly what you want and one of her coworkers may offer it.

it is low season and the golden rule (he with the gold makes the rules) applies with even more force than during high season when the ratio of punters to poon is much higher.