Angeles City

[Blink157]

Hi All,

Will land at 11:50 Aug 30th in Manila, looking to see if anyone else is arriving near that time and wants to share a car to AC.

Thanks all

Hehe.jst sitin at wildorchid in subic with my Gf and l realized again why germans(and lm sure your german)dont have a good reputation in angeles city.Now,if you allready have to cut on the cost going there ,better stay away from angeles city.l assume you mean 11.50am.So here my advise,take a cab to manila swagmann hotel,its around 100p and get fly the bus 3.30pm to angeles city for 600p.Now,you have to kill 2 hours when being at swagmann and waiting for the ride.Lucky you,there is a 7 11 nearby,beer is just 23p,instead of 66p for a draft beer at swagmann.Hope that helps.

Blink(german)

[Buko Max]

Thanks for the tip but I am sure. She is 5 hours from AC and has internet in her house. She chats every day before she goes to school and when she gets home. Besides she and her mother run the sari sari from 6 am to 12 pm. Her mother would kill her. LOL

Just remember AL2 : You can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl! :rolleyes:
Does your girls' name begin with the letter 'L' and have four letters?

[King Squared]

Are there any cheaper Hotels apart from Central Park you recommend?

Check out the Royal Amsterdam.

[Acfreddie]

Yet another raid, courtesy of the local PNP (station 4) was done/conducted on Friday night early in the evening hours. The bar that was "hit" was Paradise. 2 mamasans and one girl were taken into custody. As of yesterday they had not been released as apparently on the weekends they cannot have an agecheck done (this is where they use a dentist to check the girls teeth to determine age. This at most is 70% effective). My sources tell me that the girl in question is 19 years old and looks it (meaning that she does look less than 18). Paradise bar will not be open until Monday at the earliest.

This is just another BS raid that is killing the local economy (bars) and driving away potential tourists. I have been seeing less and less tourists on the streets, especially Fields Ave. These raids seem to be occurring with greater frequency and this will certainly lead to harder times for the bars of AC. Years ago and numerous times since then I have been told that Pampangans (the local province of which AC is included) are the cockroaches of the Philippines and with each "out for themselves" or extortion attempt that goes on, just goes to prove that statement is so very true (yes there are exceptions, but on a general basis the statement is so very true imo, which is based on years of living here)

An update, the girl and mamasans are still being held. They will now not be released until Tuesday at the earliest (Monday is a holiday here in the PI).
The girl in question was 19 years old, she had all the proper paperwork, Including a NBI certified copy of her birth certificate, she is also married, he husband went down to the PNP station 4 and STILL she was NOT released.

Paradise bar opened their doors earlier today at 5pm, but by 7:15pm the "authorities" closed them down AGAIN.

[Acfreddie]

This seems to be a theme with you. The Angeles area has certainly attracted and bred whole generations of scum, thanks to the base and the culture that went with that. But you don't have to get very far from Balibago to meet Pampanguenos of quality. Have you spent much time in ordinary towns like Lubao, or Santo Tomas, or Apalit? I think you'll find most of the locals to be decent people, no better or worse than those from any other province. It's AC that's the exception.

I have not had extensive travels to those outlying areas that you mentioned, but have in the surrounding towns near AC. That said I do not disagree with you and you are correct, I should have worded my statement with better geographical precision (specifically AC and the surrounding towns and area's). It is a theme and the theme has been built on many years of living here and numerous interactions with the locals (in and near ac), my opinion was not based off of a single visit, or 5 visits, but rather as previously stated years of living here and my experiences.

[Betong]

Pampangans (the local province of which AC is included) are the cockroaches of the Philippines

This seems to be a theme with you. The Angeles area has certainly attracted and bred whole generations of scum, thanks to the base and the culture that went with that. But you don't have to get very far from Balibago to meet Pampanguenos of quality. Have you spent much time in ordinary towns like Lubao, or Santo Tomas, or Apalit? I think you'll find most of the locals to be decent people, no better or worse than those from any other province. It's AC that's the exception.

[Adidas Ron]

Hi All,

Will land at 11:50 Aug 30th in Manila, looking to see if anyone else is arriving near that time and wants to share a car to AC.

Thanks all

[Acfreddie]

Yet another raid, courtesy of the local PNP (station 4) was done/conducted on Friday night early in the evening hours. The bar that was "hit" was Paradise. 2 mamasans and one girl were taken into custody. As of yesterday they had not been released as apparently on the weekends they cannot have an agecheck done (this is where they use a dentist to check the girls teeth to determine age. This at most is 70% effective). My sources tell me that the girl in question is 19 years old and looks it (meaning that she does look less than 18). Paradise bar will not be open until Monday at the earliest.

This is just another BS raid that is killing the local economy (bars) and driving away potential tourists. I have been seeing less and less tourists on the streets, especially Fields Ave. These raids seem to be occurring with greater frequency and this will certainly lead to harder times for the bars of AC. Years ago and numerous times since then I have been told that Pampangans (the local province of which AC is included) are the cockroaches of the Philippines and with each "out for themselves" or extortion attempt that goes on, just goes to prove that statement is so very true (yes there are exceptions, but on a general basis the statement is so very true imo, which is based on years of living here)

[X Man]

the pool is friggin gigantic. but blink, don't [CodeWord134] in the pool.

you're gonna love the place.

x

l will stay at the new wildorchid hotel over there and report how things improve.
weather in ac is very nice,no rain,clear skies,a bit hot at the afternoon though.

blink

[AsianLover2]

Asianlover2, I'm not often in champange, cause when I'm there I can forget the next day completly. The papasan is a pinoy who also does speak german. So I agree with FW on this, they just pissed the gurl stayed with you, gave them an excuse and you skip the steady barfine. I had allmost the same problem with my GF, when she left the bar for some time she got fine 5k when she start working again, cause they just assume she stays with me and while she is a stunner she is also a good earner for the establishment. She makes easy 25000p a week with drinks and a lot of bola2.

You bought her a laptop? PLease read my post about camgurls. And even its your 25 th time in Angeles city you will never know. I'm here all the time and what I learned is, seeing is believing.

Like mentioned before, business is business and why should the papa san aproach you in person? I would also let my staff handle this, cause thats what they paid for, right?

We have allways to look at both sides to make a judgement. And because its most of the business these days in AC, it would be also handled like a business.

Blink

Yes. Thanks for your comments. If just 1 person passes up CHAMPAGNE it will make me feel better.

And I know about 'seeing is believing' too. I have bedded down a few cam girls myself. And when I visit I see her 1/2 of my stay. The other half is to sample new talent.

She is a steady girl. Not my only girl. I would never have a 'GF' unless I lived there.

11 weeks and counting to trip 26!

[Blink157]

I agree with the rating of the PB and the centralpark,formerly knwn as the chicago park hotel with a nice bar.now moved into a parking lot for the lowlifes.l stay allways at orchid inn.They qoute the rooms in pesos and give a 10% discount and have a quite stable internet connection either in the room or at the poolside.They have also a free internet terminal to be used by any guest,while PB charges for that,well maybe the owner is american jewish,hehehe.Tomorow l go to Subic at 8.45am with the SouthernStar bus.l will stay at the new wildorchid hotel over there and report how things improve.
Weather in ac is very nice,no rain,clear skies,a bit hot at the afternoon though.

Blink

[HornyGeorge]

PB Hotel allows you to pay cash in US dollars so you can avoid the conversion rate ripoff. Even at $48 for Oahu Wing, which is better IMHO than the other building as it is quieter and no walk of shame, PB is still better value than ABC, Wild Orchid etc.

Clarkton Hotel is a better deal for a nice hotel, but it is a little ways up the road from the main district (although it is right on Perimeter Road in the middle of its own, lesser known, bar district).

[Bigdan]

I stayed in the $48 dollar room a month ago, the problem with this hotel is they quote you dollar price for the rooom but when you settle up, you have to pay in peso, and the exchange rate is in their favour.

Have got to say though the hotel quality is fantastic, and just the mention that you are staying in the Pacific Breeze to the girls, seems to be the tipping point for them to go with you on BF.

I can agree to that as also the Dollar has been improving against € and GBP, and if it improves further it will get more expensive for Europeans.

[Nvslim]

The August newsletter is out.

Reports on bar raids mentioned here.

Some new bars and some crime reports.

http://www.margarita-station.com/newsletters/aug08/

Be safe and have fun,
Slim

[Any Hole]

I stayed in the $48 dollar room a month ago, the problem with this hotel is they quote you dollar price for the rooom but when you settle up, you have to pay in peso, and the exchange rate is in their favour.

Have got to say though the hotel quality is fantastic, and just the mention that you are staying in the Pacific Breeze to the girls, seems to be the tipping point for them to go with you on BF.