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  2. #27872
    Quote Originally Posted by Flak3  [View Original Post]
    I also want to believe that an 18 yo girl gave up life changing money in the Phils for a few hours with FG, but that sounds like something the guy who sold me all these nfts and dogecoins would say.
    Haaaa. I am not so foolish as to believe that I de-virginized a cherry girl with no upfront negotiation and the price of a barfine. She runs her business as she sees fit and good for her. She was a nice girl. I didn't tell her coworkers the specifics. If she decided to tell them that we just did a BJ and cuddled, then that's cool with me. And she was definitely off the clock that first night, as management certainly does not let a girl just leave with a fella no questions asked. I barfined her from Q-Bar on subsequent visits when she was working, and also off the clock occasionally when she would text me. One of my few repeats. Yes, a lot of the girls travel daily to AC, but, Q-bar and Lollipop are owned by the same group, and 20-40 girls (damn these girls can't estimate) from those bars live in the same house right next to Central Park, subsidized by the company. If you're staying there they will see you during the day and you'll see them, and the gossip will run rampant. Which kinda sucks because in my opinion those are the two best bars. Point is, they live in the city. Some of them hang out and party there on their days off.

  3. #27871
    Quote Originally Posted by Flak3  [View Original Post]
    If the girl isn't cherry, and she's cute and sexy, she'll get lots of bar fines. The bar makes money. If she's cherry, no bar fines and the bar can lose lots of money paying her a salary and loaning her money to send to her family while she waits to be barfined. Same with hiring a plain or ugly cherry girl. The bar is investing in the girl. The more attractive she is, they expect a sooner and higher return. If you still think hiring fugly non cherry girls and pretending they're cherry is a good business plan, I have some dogecoins and nft's I can sell you or a beach front mansion on Palawan.

    I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I want to believe that 18 yo Filipinas are offering anal to preserve their cherry, but that hasn't been my experience. They don't even offer anal when they're on their mens to get a barfine. Finding an 18 yo noncherry girl that even offers anal is like finding a unicorn. And if you think hymenoplasty to run a cherry scam is a good business idea, I have TONS of nfts and dogecoins for you or a buy one take one special for some private islands with views of Station 2 on Boracay.

    I also want to believe that an 18 yo girl gave up life changing money in the Phils for a few hours with FG, but that sounds like something the guy who sold me all these nfts and dogecoins would say. For the girl to get to AC, someone in her province recruited her and paid her travel costs to AC. Then her "mama" is advancing room and board waiting for her to get barfined. Also, the bar owner is paying her salary and probably advancing her money for her family. And if the Phil's can offer hymenoplasty cheap enough to be a solid business plan, they probably have a few doctors who can tell whether the girl is really cherry before all these people start giving her money. So she would have to trick multiple people who are highly invested in her being a real virgin. I've also never met a 18 yo bargirl just hanging out at work on their day off. They normally have to travel 10 to 30 minutes to get to work. They usually work 6 days a week, 14 hours per day, so the last thing they usually want is to go there for free on their one day off. Or have sex on the one day they don't have to have sex. And the "cherry" girls I met all had "sisters" and "aunties" minding them so no one ran off with them and spoiled the mama or owner's investment. But I'm not youngish, "hansum" or fit like FG so I will hope he is living the Tom Cruise with a Ferrari life in AC.
    I think you will find that cherry girls or supposed cherry girls are in extreme demand from the high spending Asians for both sitting for multiple drinks in the bar or for barhop only or for barfines which includes BJ and some girls anal, many cherry girls earn the bar far more than the average bargirl due to cuteness and the innocent manner they either have or pretend to have.

    Have had several cherry girls that were up for everything except pussy penetration and I thoroughly enjoyed my time with them. Have a girl on my speed dial that works as a spotlight dancer in probably the biggest bar in angeles, she works there as a supposed cherry, is extremely popular for drinks or barhop only but in truth she is far from a virgin in any orifice.

    As far as girls hanging around the bar on days off of course they do simply because 99% of all bargirls live on site in the free lodgings provided by the bar, said lodgings are depressing and no air con,1 fan for 10-20 girls so why not hang around in the cold air con of the bar, listen to music, talk to your friends and maybe earn some extra money.

  4. #27870
    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaJoe  [View Original Post]
    Just out of curiosity, how do you structure a deal like that? 150,000 php ( 2,800 usd) would seem to require a fair amount of trust from one party or the other.
    Rational brain: Negotiate price. Negotiate time (days, weeks). Negotiate sex (positions, pops, oral, 2 sum, 3 sum, and according to Expat a free anal test run, etc) Negotiate payment (half up front after doctor of your choosing certifies she's a virgin and balance when time is over, cash, amex and peso or dollar). Buy 1 take 2?

    Lizard brain: Can I use Amex plat for points? Better put a towel down. Football stats, baseball stats, Picture Queen Elizabeth, picture. Queen. Elizabeth. Damn it.

  5. #27869

    Why lie about a girl being cherry

    Quote Originally Posted by BroComplex  [View Original Post]
    The cherry girls are a lie. Haven't you noticed the cherry girls are always the tiny, cute looking girl. Like a Korean style girl and usually the most attractive one in the bar. I've never seen an average looking girl to be marketed as cherry and I believe it's because it's easier to convince gullible foreigners "usually Japanese" into believing that this cute and innocent looking girl is a virgin.

    Next time you go out to the bars ask them to point out the cherry girls for you and I dare you to find an average looking or below average looking girl cherry girl. They are always young, cute and tiny.
    If the girl isn't cherry, and she's cute and sexy, she'll get lots of bar fines. The bar makes money. If she's cherry, no bar fines and the bar can lose lots of money paying her a salary and loaning her money to send to her family while she waits to be barfined. Same with hiring a plain or ugly cherry girl. The bar is investing in the girl. The more attractive she is, they expect a sooner and higher return. If you still think hiring fugly non cherry girls and pretending they're cherry is a good business plan, I have some dogecoins and nft's I can sell you or a beach front mansion on Palawan.

    I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I want to believe that 18 yo Filipinas are offering anal to preserve their cherry, but that hasn't been my experience. They don't even offer anal when they're on their mens to get a barfine. Finding an 18 yo noncherry girl that even offers anal is like finding a unicorn. And if you think hymenoplasty to run a cherry scam is a good business idea, I have TONS of nfts and dogecoins for you or a buy one take one special for some private islands with views of Station 2 on Boracay.

    I also want to believe that an 18 yo girl gave up life changing money in the Phils for a few hours with FG, but that sounds like something the guy who sold me all these nfts and dogecoins would say. For the girl to get to AC, someone in her province recruited her and paid her travel costs to AC. Then her "mama" is advancing room and board waiting for her to get barfined. Also, the bar owner is paying her salary and probably advancing her money for her family. And if the Phil's can offer hymenoplasty cheap enough to be a solid business plan, they probably have a few doctors who can tell whether the girl is really cherry before all these people start giving her money. So she would have to trick multiple people who are highly invested in her being a real virgin. I've also never met a 18 yo bargirl just hanging out at work on their day off. They normally have to travel 10 to 30 minutes to get to work. They usually work 6 days a week, 14 hours per day, so the last thing they usually want is to go there for free on their one day off. Or have sex on the one day they don't have to have sex. And the "cherry" girls I met all had "sisters" and "aunties" minding them so no one ran off with them and spoiled the mama or owner's investment. But I'm not youngish, "hansum" or fit like FG so I will hope he is living the Tom Cruise with a Ferrari life in AC.

  6. #27868
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    You all do know that "Cherry Girls" have been sucking dick and possibly taking anal for months or years before they sell their "virginity" to some stupid foreigner willing to pay an obscene amount of money to break a small piece of tissue. Not to mention that the tissue can be reconstructed to re sell "virginity" over and over again. There are a lot of real virgins in the provinces who can be convinced to give it up but that's a while another game.
    The cherry girls are a lie. Haven't you noticed the cherry girls are always the tiny, cute looking girl. Like a Korean style girl and usually the most attractive one in the bar. I've never seen an average looking girl to be marketed as cherry and I believe it's because it's easier to convince gullible foreigners "usually Japanese" into believing that this cute and innocent looking girl is a virgin.

    Next time you go out to the bars ask them to point out the cherry girls for you and I dare you to find an average looking or below average looking girl cherry girl. They are always young, cute and tiny.

  7. #27867
    My first night at Q-Bar there was an 18 year old there who worked there but was hanging out on her day off. The most firm see cups I've felt in my life. No bra, enjoyed having them grabbed under the shirt while we flirted and she gave me lap dances. Since she was off the clock, she said just take me back to your place. Say no more. In the morning I gave her what would have been the barfine. Couple days later I was back at the bar hanging out with some of the girls there and the 18 year old was there working and I mentioned that I knew her. 'She's a cherry girl' they all proclaimed. Um. Yeah, no.

  8. #27866
    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaJoe  [View Original Post]
    Just out of curiosity, how do you structure a deal like that? 150,000 php ( 2,800 usd) would seem to require a fair amount of trust from one party or the other.
    You all do know that "Cherry Girls" have been sucking dick and possibly taking anal for months or years before they sell their "virginity" to some stupid foreigner willing to pay an obscene amount of money to break a small piece of tissue. Not to mention that the tissue can be reconstructed to re sell "virginity" over and over again. There are a lot of real virgins in the provinces who can be convinced to give it up but that's a while another game.

  9. #27865
    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaJoe  [View Original Post]
    Just out of curiosity, how do you structure a deal like that? 150,000 php ( 2,800 usd) would seem to require a fair amount of trust from one party or the other.
    The word trust and bar girls does not go together,99% of what comes out of their mouths is pure fabrication.

    Know of many Angeles bargirls sell their supposed cherry to multiple sponsors.

    For those that are interested in cherry girls then it's easy to take said girl to the hospital gynecologist for proof, any girl that refuses is probably lying.

    Over the years had multiple girls offer me their cherry, going rate, 30,000-50,000 pesos, not sure why anyone would pay more.

  10. #27864

    Expensive Cherry!

    Quote Originally Posted by Flak3  [View Original Post]

    Day 7 - repeat of Day 6. Also ran into another 18 yo "cherry" girl. Lizard brain won momentarily, 150,000 pesos.
    Just out of curiosity, how do you structure a deal like that? 150,000 php ( 2,800 usd) would seem to require a fair amount of trust from one party or the other.

  11. #27863
    Flak 3.

    Thanks for the accurate report. BF on sir.

    I miss AC. Hopefully I will be back there soon.

  12. #27862

    Chubby, okay super chubby, balding 40 yo guy

    I think of myself as an average guy and I had a great week in AC.

    Pros: Walking street is open now from 10 am to 4 am. You can find a girl almost anytime of day. 70% of the bars on Walking Street are open and several have been renovated. 1000+ girls and maybe 200 guys. A lot of the time, you might have an entire bar and all the girls to yourself. So for all the guys complaining about having to go early to beat the Asian guys, not an issue right now. 2500 bar fines for ST or 3500 for LT are still available. You can still find a sweet 20 yo girl in AC who will tell you that you are "hansum" / "gwapo".

    Cons: Not as lively as before. Being the only guy in a bar with all the girls, Mamas, and waitresses staring at you can be intimidating / annoying. Less food options and the restaurants that are open don't have all items available. No more Southern Cross or Flythebus.

    Last trip to AC was in 2019. New girls, new bars, new owners, but still same same. There are bars for the super senior members on this board (Centauro, Lucifer's, Shooters, etc) And there are bars that have a large Asian clientele (Dragon, XS, etc) but all bars accept anyone with blue peso notes.

    Disclaimer: If you're a "budget" traveler and you're going to complain about how I spend MY money then stop reading now.

    Day 1 - Genesis bus from NAIA T3 to SM Clark 380 pesos (Arrivals area / downstairs, Bay 13) Stayed at Central Park. Took a 20 yo MILF from XS. 4000ST and 1000 tip.

    Day 2 - Took a girl from SS Bar at noon. 4000ST and 1000 tip. Mama said the girl didn't have a baby but in the room there was baby damage. Girl was sweet with a sexy figure though so I wasn't too upset. Was going to take another girl at night but jet lag kicked in and I passed out.

    Day 3 - Took the same girl from SS bar and went to Hammer and Mega Dance Club. Mega appears to be the new HiSo. Didn't get a chance to talk rates with any of the girls.

    Day 4 - can't remember the name of the bar but 4000ST and 1000 tip. Then a brown out hit and killed my night.

    Day 5 - Ended up picking two "cherry" sisters, 18 and 20, at Lucifer's by accident. Bought them drinks and hung out. Almost asked how much but my rational brain overpowered my lizard brain for once. Took a 20 yo MILF instead 4500ST and 1000 tip. Didn't know the 20 yo was a MILF until we got back to the room. On stage she was super slim. Also seems like the actual BF is 4000 but she upcharged me 500 pesos because she is a "spotlight" model LOL.

    Day 6 - Leopard 2500ST plus 2000 tip for a 18 yo with no babies and amazing natural tits. XS 4000ST and 2000 tip for a 19 yo with no babies and amazing natural tits.

    Day 7 - repeat of Day 6. Also ran into another 18 yo "cherry" girl. Lizard brain won momentarily, 150,000 pesos.

    Day 8 - Repeat. But went back with the XS girl to talk with the "cherry" sisters LOL.

    Day 9 - Dollhouse 4000ST and 1000 tip for the door girl. XS 4000ST and 1000 tip for a new girl since someone took the 19 yo. Went late hoping someone would take her so I could get an emotional break. Forgot how sweet / addicting some of these girls can be.

    Day 10 - was really torn on whether to leave or extend my stay. The 19 yo from XS was really growing on me. Also was really really tempted by the "cherry" sisters. Decided to get out of AC before a few too many red horses put my lizard brain back in charge. Genesis bus from SM Clark to Pasay 240 pesos. Taxi to Makati 500 pesos.

    I'm bored in Makati and miss AC. P Burgos is dead compared to AC. P Burgos opens at 8 pm but doesn't get going til 9 pm and has 5 bars, 1 "dance" club, and 2 billiard bars. I went to Lips at 8 pm to avoid the "rush" and was the only one in the bar until 9 pm. Went to V8 and again was the only one in the bar til 10 pm, when the people from Lips at 9 pm came to V8.

    In closing, if you want to be "loved" by a sweet 20 yo--irregardless of your age, bmi, ethnicity, and lack of hairline--as long as your money is blue, AC is the place.

  13. #27861
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    IMO it is still good for the average dude.

    Dudes are still getting pussy in AC.
    Guys (inc myself 😁 ) have been bemoaning or predicting the collapse of AC for decades. Yet we still come and, yes, we do get laid on occassion.

    Will you find a stunning provincial princess who will fullfil you every desire for 500 p? No.

    Will you have a much better time than sitting in mom's basement complaining about local Me Too girls? Hell yeah!

    Enjoy. G.

  14. #27860
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like AC is great if you are Tom Cruise and driving a Ferrari.

    But for the average dude it is going downhill fast.
    IMO it is still good for the average dude.

    Dudes are still getting pussy in AC.

  15. #27859

    Tom Cruise

    Sounds like AC is great if you are Tom Cruise and driving a Ferrari.

    But for the average dude it is going downhill fast.

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