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  1. #30776
    Quote Originally Posted by ATraveler  [View Original Post]
    This information is not correct. Lollipop was hoping last night. Gecko's has been pretty hopping too. Same with Shooters. The bars are packed with pretty girls. You can pay 350 to buy one you like a drink, which is expensive, but will get you 15 minutes to see if there's any chemistry. If there is you can ask her to barfine, which will, cost 4 k to 5 k, which is expensive, but for the most part girls have been staying overnight.

    So despite the high costs, AC is in full swing. I haven't had any problems pulling new girls. My biggest problem is girls not wanting to repeat with me, or disappearing. I'm getting kind of tired of pulling sexy young new girls for a one off. The 30 year old beauty at Lollipop who acted like she liked me and repeated with me twice disappeared without a trace. I imagine some guy paid her barfine for a week and took her to Palawan. Or maybe he's paying her salary to be his life in girlfriend. She was a really sweet girl.
    Ever noticed NonSense post seems to be reruns? Lollipop has always been hoping.

    These posts about Koreans this and that are hilarious. Some act like westerners have exclusive rights to AC! No one group owns AC. Everyone can co-exist here. I have not seen any evidence that Koreans have the market on the top notch girls. Money talks everywhere. You have the finances clout you have the beauties.

  2. #30775

    Koreans ABC

    Koreans are booking ABC Hotel more. Especially during the weekends. Last Wednesday night a single one was hosting 9 girls up at the Aqua Beach Club. LOL. Catching some attention from gawking westerners.

  3. #30774
    Quote Originally Posted by Locamotive  [View Original Post]
    ..... Believe me she has the same list. ......
    Ain't that the truth.

    Years ago, I was regularly bar fining a dancer, three or four trips a year for a week or two every time. This went on for several years. It was great times. She really adored me and we always made time for each other when I was in town. 😍.

    Reality hit home when I messaged before arriving one trip:

    "Babe, it's G. You in town next week? Let's catch up. I'm at Hotel X again".

    Her loving reply?? "Which G?

    I later saw her contact list and amongst all the other "G's" I was recorded as "G. Ugly".

    Reality sucks. 🤦.

    G.

  4. #30773
    Quote Originally Posted by ATraveler  [View Original Post]
    This information is not correct. Lollipop was hoping last night. Gecko's has been pretty hopping too. Same with Shooters. The bars are packed with pretty girls. You can pay 350 to buy one you like a drink, which is expensive, but will get you 15 minutes to see if there's any chemistry. If there is you can ask her to barfine, which will, cost 4 k to 5 k, which is expensive, but for the most part girls have been staying overnight.

    So despite the high costs, AC is in full swing. I haven't had any problems pulling new girls. My biggest problem is girls not wanting to repeat with me, or disappearing. I'm getting kind of tired of pulling sexy young new girls for a one off. The 30 year old beauty at Lollipop who acted like she liked me and repeated with me twice disappeared without a trace. I imagine some guy paid her barfine for a week and took her to Palawan. Or maybe he's paying her salary to be his life in girlfriend. She was a really sweet girl.
    The girl who repeated twice, she like you I'm sure and the connection was GFE I'm sure. We have to remember allot of these girls could win a Oscar, they are very good little actresses. Even if not acting and really liked you she is in the business of making money and like us she probably likes variety. If you noticed her some one else certainly did. We all get attached to these girls sometimes but just step back and remember what this is and why we are there. Long ago I decided get 4 or 5 you really like and put them on speed dial. If one not available then you go to next one. Believe me she has the same list. Had one before I texted when I arrived, sure honey love to see you Ill be at bar later. I go around 9 pm and she is hand in hand in a booth with another dude and she ignored me. Ok whatever down the list I go,. Next day she comes to my room and all over me like white on rice. Sorry honey but a whale showed up unexpectedly for only one night and he's a big spender, don't be mad. Was I pissed yeah a bit but I moved on and didn't show it. Again its a business, she likes me I'm sure, I'm just not the only one on her list. A bar girl is just not practical for a repeat visit every time as she has other suiters. Best plan is girls outside the bar scene but those take time which ill save for retirement.

  5. #30772
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    One should keep in mind that the tastes of both nationalities may not be the same. It may actually be a win win situation for both.
    Exactly true. Unfortunately, I prefer the the Japanese / Korean style look so I have to go to expensive bars and battle the Koreans. I don't want the farm girl look. Just like in Pattaya, I want the Asian / Euro mix look. I'd spend 1/5 the cost if a Treetown, Soi 25, or Myth Plaza girl was even remotely hot for me.

  6. #30771
    Quote Originally Posted by ATraveler  [View Original Post]
    Not rue. Plenty of ugly girls in Korean bars. And plenty of hot girls in Western bars........
    One should keep in mind that the tastes of both nationalities may not be the same. It may actually be a win win situation for both.

  7. #30770
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Went to Angeles once in 2020. Won't go back. The majority of girls were between 6 to 8. Some of the perimeter bars I walked in and then straight out of.

    My opinion: cheap sex with substandard girls.

    NI.
    4 year old information is of no value in 2024.

    AC was only open in January and February as the lock down went into effect.

    I have noticed the higher barfines now have produced a better crop of ladies.

    2024.

  8. #30769

    Perimiter Investigation

    Today I attempted to investigate the Perimeter bars. I only made it to three, so it was a abject failure. Or maybe it was a resounding success. You be the judge.

    First bar on the strip was Night Moves, which I visited in the blazing daytime of 2:30 pm. It consists of "expats" (older gentlemen of European descent), hanging out eating and drinking. There is a stage with a half dozen 30+ girls, some maybe sort of cute if you're not too picky. But even if there was a smoking hot 18 year old, I would hesitate to call her down, because there's more of a neighborhood bar vibe than a go go vibe, and I would be self conscious of being the only one groping a girl.

    Next up was XXX. So last year I visited this bar. In 2023 AC was a different place, basically the place NonSense is still describing, with not many girls back to work. At that time there was a sort of cute 20 year old I bought a drink for and was getting on well with. But I was desperate for a three way. Pickings were slim, but the waitress, who was 35, overweight, and had two kids had a face that I thought was cute. So a barfined them both for a weird three way where the 20 year old laid there and played with her phone while the fat waitress rode me with a condom. Then the waitress left and I could BBFS the 20 year old.

    This year the 20 year old cutie was long gone. But of course the waitress, who is even fatter now, recognized me and was all over me, so I had to buy her a drink. It's like night and day now compared to last year, and the stage was full of a dozen pretties, including a 25 year old beauty from Mindanao. She was charming and eager to go, but she had two kids, wore a body suite presumably covering baby damage, and I would not even consider talking to the fat waitress this year, but now I was stuck with her. So I billed out and moved on.

    Candy Bar was my last stop. As soon as I walked in there was a pretty waitress, and she came and sat with me. She said she was 21, but I think she was a little older, and she was eager to go. I paid her bargain 2,500 PHP barfine at 4 pm and took her straight home for some straight to the point BBFSCIP. I've been doing long times with the 5,000 PHP top tier dancers, but having to hang out with them can get kind of tiring if you don't really click with them. I usually just watch some Netflix with them and go to sleep. So it was kind of refreshing to have a short time for a change. Tomorrow she will come straight to my room, and she says in the future she can bring a friend. Will I make it to the rest of the Perimeter bars?

    After she left I was free to go to Lollipop on Walking Street to continue my search for the missing sexy dancer. She still wasn't there. But there were three super sexy beauties, one was an absolute stunner. All three would be considered upgrades to the girl I'm looking for, but she had really clicked with me, so I'll keep looking.

  9. #30768
    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    Your posts should be followed with a 'Fake news' warning.

    I was recently in Angeles and the place was hopping. The bars were busy with lots of customers, there were lots of girls and plenty of pretty ones. Some bars were so busy with customers I struggled to get a seat. The stage was so packed with girls at Viking, they had a line of girls dancing in front of the stage too. You make the place out to be a ghost-town but the truth is quite different.

    You also have an obsession with Koreans. You try to put people off by implying westerners don't have a chance. I'm a white British guy in my late forties and on my trip I fucked the best looking black-tape dancer in Avalon (one of your beloved Korean bars) and an extremely hot Japanese-looking girl in Genesis, who three sour-faced Koreans tried to barfine under my nose. They literally asked a waitress to invite her over to join them despite the fact I'd bought her a drink. She told me this had happened as we walked down Fields Avenue back to my hotel, telling me she hates the arrogance of customers like that.

    Angeles is a candy-shop, full of willing young, pretty girls, willing to spread their legs for cash. Anyone visiting, whether Western, Korean or Martian, will have the time of their life.
    This is all true. Do not believe NonSense. AC in 2024 is packed with sexy, willing girls. But you have to pay to play.

  10. #30767

    My opinion is different from yours. And that's ok

    Quote Originally Posted by SirLancelot  [View Original Post]
    Your posts should be followed with a 'Fake news' warning.
    The bars were busy with lots of customers, there were lots of girls and plenty of pretty ones
    Angeles is a candy-shop, full of willing young, pretty girls, willing to spread their legs for cash. Anyone visiting, whether Western, Korean or Martian, will have the time of their life.
    Went to Angeles once in 2020. Won't go back. The majority of girls were between 6 to 8. Some of the perimeter bars I walked in and then straight out of.

    My opinion: cheap sex with substandard girls.

    NI.

  11. #30766
    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    what's left in angeles is of mainly low standard, yes a very few girls are ok looking and slim working in the korean top bars, unfortunately due to very low numbers the ok looking girls are in extreme demand for drinks only and mostly don't fuck with anyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    In summing up, western bars very quiet indeed, many bars with 2 or 3 girls only and no customers, many girls looking bored, many bar owners not happy at all
    Your posts should be followed with a 'Fake news' warning.

    I was recently in Angeles and the place was hopping. The bars were busy with lots of customers, there were lots of girls and plenty of pretty ones. Some bars were so busy with customers I struggled to get a seat. The stage was so packed with girls at Viking, they had a line of girls dancing in front of the stage too. You make the place out to be a ghost-town but the truth is quite different.

    You also have an obsession with Koreans. You try to put people off by implying westerners don't have a chance. I'm a white British guy in my late forties and on my trip I fucked the best looking black-tape dancer in Avalon (one of your beloved Korean bars) and an extremely hot Japanese-looking girl in Genesis, who three sour-faced Koreans tried to barfine under my nose. They literally asked a waitress to invite her over to join them despite the fact I'd bought her a drink. She told me this had happened as we walked down Fields Avenue back to my hotel, telling me she hates the arrogance of customers like that.

    Angeles is a candy-shop, full of willing young, pretty girls, willing to spread their legs for cash. Anyone visiting, whether Western, Korean or Martian, will have the time of their life.

  12. #30765
    Quote Originally Posted by ATraveler  [View Original Post]
    Not rue. Plenty of ugly girls in Korean bars. And plenty of hot girls in Western bars. All the bars are basically the same, with Filipino girls from 20 to 30+, some ugly and some pretty. The difference between the K bars and Western bars is that at the former girls are dolled up in dresses, will not make eye contact, and may be sitting on stage using there phones. But these are full service boom boom providers, so if you see one you like, just tell a waitress to call her down. She most likely will provide BBFSCIP and stay overnight.

    In the Western bars the girls are still 20 to 30+ Filipinos, some ugly and some pretty. But they will be dressed in bikinis or miniskirts and crop tops, and may make eye contact and flirt.
    Thanks the more current update. My views were from 3 and 6 months ago. Things change, especially in regard to looks. I found that in general, there were fewer chubs in the K bars than the Wolfpack bars. In addition, at least one mama in a K bar assured me that she could find a barfine girl to suit my tastes and do what was requested. Tallyho.

    However, my comments about K's getting what they want with large spending is, generally, true.

  13. #30764
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    I Caveat #2: Girls are in general prettier in the K bars. However the hotties are often taken right at the bar's opening bell. While the K bars have prettier girls, you can find pretty girls in any of the other bars NS or other's have mentioned.
    Not rue. Plenty of ugly girls in Korean bars. And plenty of hot girls in Western bars. All the bars are basically the same, with Filipino girls from 20 to 30+, some ugly and some pretty. The difference between the K bars and Western bars is that at the former girls are dolled up in dresses, will not make eye contact, and may be sitting on stage using there phones. But these are full service boom boom providers, so if you see one you like, just tell a waitress to call her down. She most likely will provide BBFSCIP and stay overnight.

    In the Western bars the girls are still 20 to 30+ Filipinos, some ugly and some pretty. But they will be dressed in bikinis or miniskirts and crop tops, and may make eye contact and flirt.

  14. #30763

    NonSense

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    When you say Koreans are spending good money how much are you talking about being spent while in the bar for lady drinks and tipping girls directly (ie. Not including for the girl to go out). Would like an idea if I can compete for the girls.

    Are your Western friends not getting attention in Korean bars solely because they aren't Asian or because they aren't willing to spend as much or more than the Koreans on the girls in a bar?

    Thanks for the great update.
    This information is not correct. Lollipop was hoping last night. Gecko's has been pretty hopping too. Same with Shooters. The bars are packed with pretty girls. You can pay 350 to buy one you like a drink, which is expensive, but will get you 15 minutes to see if there's any chemistry. If there is you can ask her to barfine, which will, cost 4 k to 5 k, which is expensive, but for the most part girls have been staying overnight.

    So despite the high costs, AC is in full swing. I haven't had any problems pulling new girls. My biggest problem is girls not wanting to repeat with me, or disappearing. I'm getting kind of tired of pulling sexy young new girls for a one off. The 30 year old beauty at Lollipop who acted like she liked me and repeated with me twice disappeared without a trace. I imagine some guy paid her barfine for a week and took her to Palawan. Or maybe he's paying her salary to be his life in girlfriend. She was a really sweet girl.

  15. #30762
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    When you say Koreans are spending good money how much are you talking about being spent while in the bar for lady drinks and tipping girls directly (ie. Not including for the girl to go out). Would like an idea if I can compete for the girls.

    Are your Western friends not getting attention in Korean bars solely because they aren't Asian or because they aren't willing to spend as much or more than the Koreans on the girls in a bar?

    Thanks for the great update.
    A wrap of 1000 p notes is about $2000 and it's not uncommon to see a couple of these stuffed in a fanny pack. That may not be spent in one night but it doesn't last the whole trip either.

    I'd agree with WC1 that, while some whities may spend the same amount, it tends to be much more payment for services rather than meaningless tips etc. Our K-boi might make it rain while Chad will be buying trays of drinks to ensure free flowing blowjobs, groping etc or a group of guys might buy out a bar and close the doors for a special occasion. Same ultimate cost but different outcomes.

    Of course, there are always going to be the hot girls who magically appear while the drinks are flowing but quickly disappear when it's time for the quid pro quo.

    Cheers. G.

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