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[Member #4794]

I do think you are onto something with India death rate being well below France.

India death rate is 10 time's what is reported. Most Indians are dirt poor. They die and burn the bodies within hours, no covid tests are ever done on these people. People who are deathly ill do not seek treatment because they never make it to the hospital lack of beds mean that even if they do get to the hospital they die waiting and since no covid test is conducted in that time its not counted as a covid death and many also end up not being counted because they leave when they get the news that they are terminally ill and get laid out in isolation until they die and not counted. In India's small towns only have about 30 beds if that and so the official death tally is only a fraction of the deaths so these numbers are extremely skewed and only serve to kind of bolster arm chair warriors who don't really know what's going on. In India they are only mostly treating treatable cases so the drugs only appear to be working because they would have survived anyways and the people who are critical never get care its not a success story its total failure and the numbers don't reflect the real situation but people like that guy fail to understand the intricacies of the situation because it bolsters their confirmation bias. These numbers only reflect the middle and upper-class and the millions of poor people are simply not counted. People in India also have a lack of medical treatments that would save lives due to hording and not having the funds available for real care. He is just trying to make sense of something he can't possibly understand so they chalk it up to some conspiracy because its easier for it to be some plot than the truth being that we really aren't making any meaningful progress other than the mRNA vaccines and their respective booster shots. Russia and China both trying to hack America to try and get access to mRNA tech because its the only thing that is effective. There are some rumblings that Russia & China would take a more aggressive stance if the USA didn't release the tech, which is why Biden was considering giving it to them to avoid possible conflict.

Just How Big Could India's True Covid Toll Be?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...estimates.html

The COVID-19 death toll in India could be up to 10 times higher than the official 200,000 figure, experts say.

https://www.businessinsider.com/indi...-higher-2021-5

[BrizLad]

The same people who raged against hcq and ivermectin will embrace it this winter.
By the way India mortality rate is many folds below France one.

[Deleted by Admin], can you provide empirical evidence I. E. Peer reviewed studies and in particular pfizer's work just 3 months out from 'your' mentioned release date.

I do think you are onto something with India death rate being well below France. I did some fact checking and can confirm that France (42nd) & USA (18th) both have a higher 'reported' death than India (109), Philippines (115th) & Indonesia (116th). Either there medical system is onto something or many deaths go unreported.

Who's keen to see out the pandemic in India? You want to put your and your family on the line to find out?

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[PedroMorales]

Bla-bla-bla. Pfizer is about to release this fall a treatment with ivermectin. They know that vaccine won't work this winter like the magic wand everybody hope for. 2021 S2 will be the treatment fold. The same people who brushed away the virus from a lab in 2020 are headlining it now. The same people who raged against hcq and ivermectin will embrace it this winter.

By the way India mortality rate is many folds below France one.

Never mind, Roland. These peasants wouldn't know a fine French wine from the bottle of Red Bull they get their better halves to drink before giving them relief. Expecting intelligent comments on Covid19 from them is like expecting a pig to sing an Edith Piaf number.

British dictator Bojo Johnson has just pulled the plug on those holidaying in Portugal. We have incompetent sociopaths in power. All the guys here want to do is be defiled by a rice farmer's mentally challenged daughter. For that one diseased woman, they are prepared to take dangerous injections, run through all kinds of hoops in their home countries, on the planes and in the Philippines, even though many of them do not even have the strength to jack off. European football supporters do the same, all to see millionaires kick a ball. Some do it for doughnuts, others to get to see a concert, more because it is a free chance to virtue signal. And these people have votes ffs.

No different from other tagged farm animals though, tbf, cows have inquisitive minds (and they make a good meal).

[RolandJoffe11]

Isn't it amazing how many wholly unqualified epidemiologists and virologists Google has trained over the course of the past year? The number is staggering.

GE.

Bla-bla-bla. Pfizer is about to release this fall a treatment with ivermectin. They know that vaccine won't work this winter like the magic wand everybody hope for. 2021 S2 will be the treatment fold. The same people who brushed away the virus from a lab in 2020 are headlining it now. The same people who raged against hcq and ivermectin will embrace it this winter.

By the way India mortality rate is many folds below France one.

[WestCoast1]

Ivermectin SNIP This will never end. Period.

Isn't it amazing how many wholly unqualified epidemiologists and virologists Google has trained over the course of the past year? The number is staggering.

The new guy didn't go to Jared and he didn't consult with 'Doctor' Westy. Tsk.

[PedroMorales]

The Nepal variant can even enlist choppers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-getaways.html

The days of bonking LBFMs are over. I am checking out local homeless women but there are all kinds of security risks there. I would imagine most monger money could be replaced by local spenders. Here,. Lots have lot their jobs but plumbers etc are doing well as peopled spend their overseas holiday money on their houses. The price of local holidays has again gone through the roof.

It amazes me it costs more to take a one hour punt on a hooker than it does to get a good tradesman for the entire day. Local hags will have to drop their prices as well as their panties.

[GoodEnough]

Ivermectin knocked off Covid in India? FDA says Ivermectin shall not be used for Covid.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consum...event-covid-19

WHO advises its use only under clinical trials.

https://www.who.int/news-room/featur...linical-trials

And over 3,000 people died just yesterday in India from Covid.

Where do you get your news?

UK considering lockdown? May be. A distant possibility at this point due to Delta variant.

Common cold, dengue, tuberculosis never ended. The level of risk matters.

Isn't it amazing how many wholly unqualified epidemiologists and virologists Google has trained over the course of the past year? The number is staggering.

GE.

[Pinga 98]

Ivermectin has knocked off Covid in India in a matter of days while there was a post vaccine surge in contamination and deaths.

The UK with over 70% of the pop vaccines is considering lockdowns again.

This will never end. Period.

Ivermectin knocked off Covid in India? FDA says Ivermectin shall not be used for Covid.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consum...event-covid-19

WHO advises its use only under clinical trials.

https://www.who.int/news-room/featur...linical-trials

And over 3,000 people died just yesterday in India from Covid.

Where do you get your news?

UK considering lockdown? May be. A distant possibility at this point due to Delta variant.

Common cold, dengue, tuberculosis never ended. The level of risk matters.

[Datiao]

Did tourist cause the outbreak in India? I didn't know that.


Brizlad.

Me neither cause I did not say that. India was mentioned to just illustrate it's serious high cases.
Tourists are considered unnecessary people whether they cause the outbreak or not, therefore denied entry.
This is normal containment protocol for Asia at least.
And w the covid variants it's even more critically enforced.
How did the British n Indian variants get to all parts of the world?

Philippines and many SEA countries do not want imported cases to add to their woes.

Vietnam just stopped incoming international flights to Hanoi few days ago cause of sharp rise in cases.

[RolandJoffe11]

Ivermectin has knocked off Covid in India in a matter of days while there was a post vaccine surge in contamination and deaths.

The UK with over 70% of the pop vaccines is considering lockdowns again.

This will never end. Period.

Did tourist cause the outbreak in India? I didn't know that.

Philippines covid may have been a foreign entry at the start but the disease has its own path within the country with or without tourists more dependent upon the country's attitude to following rules and an inadeqaute healthcare system.

Personally I cannot imagine being back in AC for quite while.

Brizlad.

[WestCoast1]

They are adding a real number to an estimated number and there is overlap between the numbers. The real number is the number of people who have been vaccinated. The estimate is the number of people who have "natural immunity". Since some people have had the virus and have been vaccinated, there is overlap. This gives you the ability to have numbers over 100%. Just ignore the fact that one of the states is New York which has already been caught falsifying their stats and the other state is New Jersey.

Thank you sir.

[AggieDad1]

I liked the article, but the author (by his own admission) is also making guesses or assumptions.

OTOH to make AD's case, some state-by-state herd immunity graphs (pics) from https://coronavirusbellcurve.com/ which uses CDC data. Can anyone explain to me why some states have more than 100% herd immunity (NY and New Jersey)?

They are adding a real number to an estimated number and there is overlap between the numbers. The real number is the number of people who have been vaccinated. The estimate is the number of people who have "natural immunity". Since some people have had the virus and have been vaccinated, there is overlap. This gives you the ability to have numbers over 100%. Just ignore the fact that one of the states is New York which has already been caught falsifying their stats and the other state is New Jersey.

[BrizLad]

Maybe that's exactly the reason why they are not letting in tourists. They can't afford another explosion of virus numbers like India, overwhelming their Healthcare facilities and workers.

Did tourist cause the outbreak in India? I didn't know that.

Philippines covid may have been a foreign entry at the start but the disease has its own path within the country with or without tourists more dependent upon the country's attitude to following rules and an inadequate healthcare system.

Personally I cannot imagine being back in AC for quite while.

Brizlad.

[ErsatzJulian]

I liked the article, but the author (by his own admission) is also making guesses or assumptions.

OTOH to make AD's case, some state-by-state herd immunity graphs (pics) from https://coronavirusbellcurve.com/ which uses CDC data. Can anyone explain to me why some states have more than 100% herd immunity (NY and New Jersey)?

Perhaps, people from neighboring states got their shots there and so they end up with vaccinating more people than their state population?

[WestCoast1]

Below is a ling to a good article on heard immunity. Bear in mind that this was written a month ago.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/...-decline-here/

I liked the article, but the author (by his own admission) is also making guesses or assumptions.

OTOH to make AD's case, some state-by-state herd immunity graphs (pics) from https://coronavirusbellcurve.com/ which uses CDC data. Can anyone explain to me why some states have more than 100% herd immunity (NY and New Jersey)?