Angeles City

[GoodEnough]

How is that playing out practically? Are only 2000 tickets being sold? Are people being bumped from confirmed flights? A mad stampede and the first ones win? All of the above?

As you said, it's the PI, so there is bound to be some chaos involved but I'm wondering how the 2000 are selected.

It's fairly misleading. At this point, I think, only returning OFWs and those with Philippines passports or permanent residency visa holders can come in. At least that was the case a few weeks ago. Perhaps it's changed.

GE.

[Goferring]

With only 2,000 international passengers allowed per day it is hard for the ones that have a valid visa to enter now.

How is that playing out practically? Are only 2000 tickets being sold? Are people being bumped from confirmed flights? A mad stampede and the first ones win? All of the above?

As you said, it's the PI, so there is bound to be some chaos involved but I'm wondering how the 2000 are selected.

[Beavis]

As I mentioned in the Subic thread, thanks for your on the ground report- much appreciated.

I'm hoping that at least by next May or so there will be some way for tourists to visit again- do you think that's likely / possible?

Zebra.

I have no idea, nor does anyone else. With only 2,000 international passengers allowed per day it is hard for the ones that have a valid visa to enter now.

[GoodEnough]

A general info reply. Not sure that question has a good answer. Multiple gents said on this board in the early days of Covid that they sure that the Phils would open up by this date or that date. Those dates were in 2020. At least one gent made the case that tourism must open back up for the sake of the economy. Here we are, 17 months later, all of those things turned out to be just guesses. A few months ago Dutuerte talked about possibly re-opening, with vaxxed folk, and quarantine periods. Still, here we are. Before, we asked: 2020? Then we asked: 2021? And now we ask. . .

Here in Davao, the Delta variant has just started to receive local publicity, as the first cases have been detected. Assuming that Davao is somewhat of a microcosm of the rest of the country, I assume that sooner rather than later, restrictions will begin to tighten once again out of fear of the spread of this mutation. WC is correct, any predictions regarding possibly opening the country are at best shaky as the situation is so fluid and varies extensively from location to location. I plan on a trip next month to Manila and A /C and I have no idea what to expect. The Manila / Makati trip is business-related while the A / see trip is being taken more for curiosity. I'll report back on whatever I find out.

GE.

[NapaSlapper]

Plenty of bars open, plenty of women too just not many customers. 12 AM curfew so the bars close but it isn't heavily enforced. Mini marts still open 24 hours and people moving around all through the night.

Correction, there are no bars open that would resemble the bars people remembered before covid, what is open is restaurant bars with waitresses and no dancing girls, the country remains closed to tourism hence why the bars are dead, maybe by the end of 2022 or 2023 there might be some light at the end of the tunnel.

[WestCoast1]

I'm hoping that at least by next May or so there will be some way for tourists to visit again- do you think that's likely / possible?

A general info reply. Not sure that question has a good answer. Multiple gents said on this board in the early days of Covid that they sure that the Phils would open up by this date or that date. Those dates were in 2020. At least one gent made the case that tourism must open back up for the sake of the economy. Here we are, 17 months later, all of those things turned out to be just guesses. A few months ago Dutuerte talked about possibly re-opening, with vaxxed folk, and quarantine periods. Still, here we are. Before, we asked: 2020? Then we asked: 2021? And now we ask. . .

[Member #4729]

Plenty of bars open, plenty of women too just not many customers. 12 AM curfew so the bars close but it isn't heavily enforced. Mini marts still open 24 hours and people moving around all through the night.

As I mentioned in the Subic thread, thanks for your on the ground report- much appreciated.

I'm hoping that at least by next May or so there will be some way for tourists to visit again- do you think that's likely / possible?

Zebra.

[Beavis]

Would it be reasonable to conclude from the inactivity on this forum that Angeles City is equally deserted and not open for business. I was of the understanding that at least a few bars on Fields avenue were operating, albeit in a limited capacity.

Anyone on the ground?

Plenty of bars open, plenty of women too just not many customers. 12 AM curfew so the bars close but it isn't heavily enforced. Mini marts still open 24 hours and people moving around all through the night.

[AggieDad1]

Would it be reasonable to conclude from the inactivity on this forum that Angeles City is equally deserted and not open for business. I was of the understanding that at least a few bars on Fields avenue were operating, albeit in a limited capacity.

Anyone on the ground?

https://youtu.be/vTQqIx0Lr54

The guy at the link above does walks every week on walking street in Angeles City.

[Member #4729]

Would it be reasonable to conclude from the inactivity on this forum that Angeles City is equally deserted and not open for business. I was of the understanding that at least a few bars on Fields avenue were operating, albeit in a limited capacity.

Anyone on the ground?

[Gunners1]

Guys. Would you be able to move these discussions to the general information forum.

Peace out.

G.

That is more if an indicator of where their health systems fail, testing backlogs or lack of testing rather than a measure of covid.

This scabies drug is junk. Look into Lenzilumab is the forerunner in terms of therapeutics imo. 54-90% reduction in the risk of dying from covid in people who are hospitalized, and hospitalization and recovery time greatly reduced. I may or may not be biased because I made a lot of $$ from the stock but the drug is solid. It cleans the inflammatory byproducts that COVID patients die of.

www.humanigen.com/lenzilumab

https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.or...cle/S0025-6196(20) 30989-7/ fulltext.

[Member #4794]

Countries tend to go along the same trajectory until they take significant action.

That is more if an indicator of where their health systems fail, testing backlogs or lack of testing rather than a measure of covid.

This scabies drug is junk. Look into Lenzilumab is the forerunner in terms of therapeutics imo. 54-90% reduction in the risk of dying from covid in people who are hospitalized, and hospitalization and recovery time greatly reduced. I may or may not be biased because I made a lot of $$ from the stock but the drug is solid. It cleans the inflammatory byproducts that COVID patients die of.

www.humanigen.com/lenzilumab

https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.or...cle/S0025-6196(20) 30989-7/ fulltext.

[BrizLad]

The guy is trying to contribute and you just blast off at him without citing the peer reviewed papers you demand he digs up for you.

The main contributory factor is poverty, inefficiency and corruption, same as always.

My apology. Let's start with source data.

Let's start with.

A) https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus..

1. Sort by Death Rate / 1 M Pop.

Observe the rankings that I assign to each country.

B) https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality.

1. Go to "Cases and mortality by country".

2. Sort by Case-Mortality.

My point is that drawing anything much from the case & death reports by comparing country-to-country ie France India, Indonesia or Philippines is not a good indicator. Understanding the changing trends within a country is a good use of a country's data.

C) https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?dat...es&location=US.

This is my go-to chart for a country's progress.

Countries tend to go along the same trajectory until they take significant action.

If you want, change the scale on this representation from Log to Linear. You will see just how big an issue it is.

Prior to posting I did do a google literature review looking for source research on a Ivermectin. I could only find peer reviewed articles which said it had limited effect.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e.../PIIS2589-5370(20) 30464-8/ fulltext.

" Among patients with non-severe COVID-19 and no risk factors for severe disease receiving a single 400 mcg / kg dose of ivermectin within 72 h of fever or cough onset there was no difference in the proportion of PCR positives. There was however a marked reduction of self-reported anosmia / hyposmia, a reduction of cough and a tendency to lower viral loads and lower IgG titers which warrants assessment in larger trials. ".

https://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/20...bm-2021-111678

This article gives Ivermectin the best light. "Concluding, research related to ivermectin in COVID-19 has serious methodological limitations resulting in very low certainty of the evidence, and continues to grow. ".

The Pfizer 'pill' is in Phase 1 trials according to the company's media release: https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...oral-antiviral.

The CEO hopes for a year end release which I call winter. It is also slated for use as a retroviral not as a replacement for vaccine.

It is at this point I wish I had some decent pics to post of my filipina morsels.

BL.

[ErsatzJulian]

Bla-bla-bla. Pfizer is about to release this fall a treatment with ivermectin. They know that vaccine won't work this winter like the magic wand everybody hope for. 2021 S2 will be the treatment fold. The same people who brushed away the virus from a lab in 2020 are headlining it now. The same people who raged against hcq and ivermectin will embrace it this winter.

By the way India mortality rate is many folds below France one.

No respective organization has ever endorsed HCQ as an effective treatment for COVID.

If Pfizer does not release a treatment with Ivermectin this fall, will you post an apology and acknowledge you don't know what the eff you are talking about and shut up?

[PedroMorales]

Seeing as you have zero credibility on the forum, can you provide empirical evidence I. E. Peer reviewed studies and in particular pfizer's work just 3 months out from 'your' mentioned release date.

I do think you are onto something with India death rate being well below France. I did some fact checking and can confirm that France (42nd) & USA (18th) both have a higher 'reported' death than India (109), Philippines (115th) & Indonesia (116th). Either there medical system is onto something or many deaths go unreported.

Who's keen to see out the pandemic in India? You want to put your and your family on the line to find out?

The guy is trying to contribute and you just blast off at him without citing the peer reviewed papers you demand he digs up for you. Where are all the Chinese who dropped dead in front of cameras? How about the Italian churches full of coffins?

The main contributory factor is poverty, inefficiency and corruption, same as always.

The virus is now in the wild where it can mutate and spread. Young people just want to party and screw around, older mongers just want to DATY with LBFMs. When AIDS was ravaging India, their hookers were busy as ever.

LBFMs are off the menu, more so as carbon taxing kicks in.