Angeles City

[Turgid]

Many times these things are like a pendulum. It could be argued that 10+ years ago AC was too much fun to be sustainainable. Before long everyone with a $100 airfare was there increasing prices and dropping required service levels. That's what we've got now. I'm not terribly hopefully but maybe, just maybe, things will rebound to a good time, being had for a reasonable cost, in a fun atmosphere.

Unfortunately, as I've said before this may be more aspirational than reality.

Cheers. G.

All the places that have gotten worse have not gotten better: Geylang, Singapore, Chang Ping, China, Buenos Aires, Argentina, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. These are my former playgrounds but there are others. Sign of the times.

[Engine Driver]

Often when major changes are forced upon us we often end up with better solutions.

The scene in AC deteriorated dramatically over the past 10 years.

Prices went up, service quality dropped, good looks became rare, LT became ST, AC food awful.

You are being too optimistic! LOL. Most mongers on the Philippine board are too old to re-engineer themselves. Seriously, what could a septuagenarian monger with a measly home country pension reinvent himself as? Captain America? Maybe a life model for an art class? LOL. They are lucky if they can walk 10 feet without a Zimmer frame.

Most will die in their basements waiting for.

The Wuhan Reaper to pass.

[Pute Nut]

Food wise AC has gotten better.

Marginally better options, mainly because of SM, but a lot has also gone downhill.

Salvatore's has changed hands and is not the same as when the Marble Inn owner ran it, Bunny Burger does as good takeout but know to charge for it. The good buffets are gone, there were a couple just on Fields, now nothing but Korean crap. Scorebirds did good buffets until recently, but last I checked they raised the price and limited it to once a week.

AC / PH is not a culinary destination, Thailand wins hands down, at a much lower price.

[Sammon]

Often when major changes are forced upon us we often end up with better solutions.

The scene in AC deteriorated dramatically over the past 10 years.

Prices went up, service quality dropped, good looks became rare, LT became ST, AC food awful.

Prices went up drastically quickly because of freewheeling Koreans. As usual when overpaid quality of service goes down. Food wise AC has gotten better.

[Pute Nut]

The scene in AC deteriorated dramatically over the past 10 years.

Prices went up, service quality dropped, good looks became rare, LT became ST, AC food awful.

At least the "quality" of AC food has remained pretty constant, although the conveniently located Mr Frosty on Fields was changed into a money padala shop. 15 years ago they served a decent fish & chips for 80 pesos.

[PedroMorales]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.

The trend now is increasingly dominated by under developed countries with bad public health services. China has dropped off the radar and the USA is a mess. The Philippines, which clocks in at place 22, is now probably permanently off my list as it is just too much trouble.

Hookers have to be hurting as business has dried up. Has anyone seen this reflected in price drops?

When Brexit finally comes, a huge European recession will gather pace. I think the LBFM days will fade, just like the Flower v Power stuff did. Something to tell our grand kids in their isolation un its.

Without getting into a Covid19 argument, I tend to avoid masks where I can. I am largley uncocerned but I do know where the risk are: old folks' homes, meat processiong plants, Covid19 party houses and cheap, over crowded slums where cut price hookers live. I ain't going to DATY on that.

[Chocha Monger]

Hello Gents,

A good friend of mine who lives in AC and knows a couple of people who work at Hiso (High Society Disco) and he confirmed to my friend that they are closing their doors indefinitely. Rumors have been swirling on this board by a poster who said they are undergoing a remodel. Nope remodels do not have AC units stripped out, the whole place gutted, etc. They were already in trouble before the pandemic and were getting hurt by Hammer nightclub opening which is larger, newer, and catered to high rolling Koreans. Although Hiso had its niche with non Western tourists, they simply became dated, in business too long, and things as we know change over time eventually.

A bar manager told my friend they are indeed closing for good. I do not see nightclubs surviving without doing business for a year and even during this Covid pandemic, how would you ensure safety to sustain customers comfortable with going. Hiso was ground zero for freelancers in AC seeking westerners and non Koreans and was the last viable place to meet decent girls as the bars have gone to shit for the most part. It will be interesting to see if Hammer survives and Mega Dance may be out also unless they have really deep pockets. My odds are Hammer will survive only. Unless another new venue likes this opens in the long future, my days in AC may be numbered.

Yep. That will do it! All that remains of the Angeles City freelancer scene is the streetmeat strung out on shabu in New Freelancer Park and the ladyboys lurking in the dark on Johnny Street for the unwary.

[Goferring]

Often when major changes are forced upon us we often end up with better solutions.

The scene in AC deteriorated dramatically over the past 10 years.

Prices went up, service quality dropped, good looks became rare, LT became ST, AC food awful.

Many times these things are like a pendulum. It could be argued that 10+ years ago AC was too much fun to be sustainainable. Before long everyone with a $100 airfare was there increasing prices and dropping required service levels. That's what we've got now. I'm not terribly hopefully but maybe, just maybe, things will rebound to a good time, being had for a reasonable cost, in a fun atmosphere.

Unfortunately, as I've said before this may be more aspirational than reality.

Cheers. G.

[Fastpiston]

Read an article online few weeks ago about immunity. Wish I'd saved the link. The article said that immunity for those who beat the virus can be temporary, lasting 3-6 months, meaning one can re-catch the thing. Great! If true, then we could be living this way for many years, constantly on the run from it: ". . . A fundamental shift in our every day . . . lives well after it is brought under control".

Often when major changes are forced upon us we often end up with better solutions.

The scene in AC deteriorated dramatically over the past 10 years.

Prices went up, service quality dropped, good looks became rare, LT became ST, AC food awful.

[Bamboo Pete]

....There are currently 3 Bars open in this format on Permeter now so better then nothing..

Can you tell where these bars are, and their old name?

[StudBucket]

Hello Gents,

A good friend of mine who lives in AC and knows a couple of people who work at Hiso (High Society Disco) and he confirmed to my friend that they are closing their doors indefinitely. Rumors have been swirling on this board by a poster who said they are undergoing a remodel. Nope remodels do not have AC units stripped out, the whole place gutted, etc. They were already in trouble before the pandemic and were getting hurt by Hammer nightclub opening which is larger, newer, and catered to high rolling Koreans. Although Hiso had its niche with non Western tourists, they simply became dated, in business too long, and things as we know change over time eventually.

A bar manager told my friend they are indeed closing for good. I do not see nightclubs surviving without doing business for a year and even during this Covid pandemic, how would you ensure safety to sustain customers comfortable with going. Hiso was ground zero for freelancers in AC seeking westerners and non Koreans and was the last viable place to meet decent girls as the bars have gone to shit for the most part. It will be interesting to see if Hammer survives and Mega Dance may be out also unless they have really deep pockets. My odds are Hammer will survive only. Unless another new venue likes this opens in the long future, my days in AC may be numbered.

SB.

[Streetlooker]

Well checked out the bars that did a restaurant conversion. Rules are strict but least you can sit and have a drink and some food. Chit chat with managers and waitress says they had to be inspected for reopening and must maintain rather draconian rules to remain open. Waitress must wear long pants and no reveling clothing no shorts or shoulder less shirts and must have mask with face shield. Customers must wear face mask as much has possible except when eating or drinking. There are currently 3 Bars open in this format on Permeter now so better then nothing. Time should lax the rules more and more I guess but it could take a while before its even close to a normal atmosphere in a bar with dancers. AC is open 10 pm to 8 PM then a ghost town again. Speak easy type places are popping up around the back streets off perimeter just have to walk around to find them. BUT won't say where to help them stay hidden and open.

[Wicked Roger]

Don't panic Westy, this is only a partial truth. Yes the immunity is temporary, but as soon as the virus tries to infect you again your immune system 'remembers' it and will produce antibodies to attack it. And this is done much quicker than the first time you got infected, because it's not a new virus anymore for your immune system.

Tell that to Kei Nishikori.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/53873450

Also, recent articles by Qantas suggest only 10 countries will be 'safe' to visit by mid 2021 (USA is so far off the list and is likely after Africa and South America - 2023). Singapore, Vietnam and Cambodia were the only SE Asian countries in the 10 listed.

[Mogwai]

Read an article online few weeks ago about immunity. Wish I'd saved the link. The article said that immunity for those who beat the virus can be temporary, lasting 3-6 months, meaning one can re-catch the thing. Great! If true, then we could be living this way for many years, constantly on the run from it: ". . . A fundamental shift in our every day . . . lives well after it is brought under control".

Don't panic Westy, this is only a partial truth. Yes the immunity is temporary, but as soon as the virus tries to infect you again your immune system 'remembers' it and will produce antibodies to attack it. And this is done much quicker than the first time you got infected, because it's not a new virus anymore for your immune system.

[Sammon]

The gloomy Negative: Took a walk around up and down Perimeter Rd, Down Tedoro st and got a Massage, knew the girl from before Happy ending HJ but says the place might close soon if they keep the lockdown. Then up and down fields ave, Real st, down Santos to Johnny st then out to MacArthur and back around up fields to Phillies. Nothing changed since March 15th 1st day really. New Freelancer Park which is across from Envy and Phillies now abundant with Shabu and glue sniffers but nothing over a 3 maybe a 4 there. Johnny st same 2's and 3's wanting 500 pesos for a hit of glue or shabu. Few bakla around too if that's your thing. Now with a bit of positive news. 3-4 Permeter bars have converted themselves into restaurants and are giving it a go to reopen. I did not check out these places tonight cause they are to close at 8 and It was going on 8 pretty much when I walked by them. I will soon go and give a update on the Modus operandi of the places and see if its close to anything normal bar procedure or are they just going legit to stay open. Talking to a few BG on facebook who went back to their hometowns in Samar and they said they expect to stay home till Jan 2021 then make their way back to AC. Guess we see.

Thanks for on the ground report.