Angeles City

[StudBucket]

Hello Gents,

A good friend of mine who lives in AC and knows a couple of people who work at Hiso (High Society Disco) and he confirmed to my friend that they are closing their doors indefinitely. Rumors have been swirling on this board by a poster who said they are undergoing a remodel. Nope remodels do not have AC units stripped out, the whole place gutted, etc. They were already in trouble before the pandemic and were getting hurt by Hammer nightclub opening which is larger, newer, and catered to high rolling Koreans. Although Hiso had its niche with non Western tourists, they simply became dated, in business too long, and things as we know change over time eventually.

A bar manager told my friend they are indeed closing for good. I do not see nightclubs surviving without doing business for a year and even during this Covid pandemic, how would you ensure safety to sustain customers comfortable with going. Hiso was ground zero for freelancers in AC seeking westerners and non Koreans and was the last viable place to meet decent girls as the bars have gone to shit for the most part. It will be interesting to see if Hammer survives and Mega Dance may be out also unless they have really deep pockets. My odds are Hammer will survive only. Unless another new venue likes this opens in the long future, my days in AC may be numbered.

SB.

[Streetlooker]

Well checked out the bars that did a restaurant conversion. Rules are strict but least you can sit and have a drink and some food. Chit chat with managers and waitress says they had to be inspected for reopening and must maintain rather draconian rules to remain open. Waitress must wear long pants and no reveling clothing no shorts or shoulder less shirts and must have mask with face shield. Customers must wear face mask as much has possible except when eating or drinking. There are currently 3 Bars open in this format on Permeter now so better then nothing. Time should lax the rules more and more I guess but it could take a while before its even close to a normal atmosphere in a bar with dancers. AC is open 10 pm to 8 PM then a ghost town again. Speak easy type places are popping up around the back streets off perimeter just have to walk around to find them. BUT won't say where to help them stay hidden and open.

[Wicked Roger]

Don't panic Westy, this is only a partial truth. Yes the immunity is temporary, but as soon as the virus tries to infect you again your immune system 'remembers' it and will produce antibodies to attack it. And this is done much quicker than the first time you got infected, because it's not a new virus anymore for your immune system.

Tell that to Kei Nishikori.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/53873450

Also, recent articles by Qantas suggest only 10 countries will be 'safe' to visit by mid 2021 (USA is so far off the list and is likely after Africa and South America - 2023). Singapore, Vietnam and Cambodia were the only SE Asian countries in the 10 listed.

[Mogwai]

Read an article online few weeks ago about immunity. Wish I'd saved the link. The article said that immunity for those who beat the virus can be temporary, lasting 3-6 months, meaning one can re-catch the thing. Great! If true, then we could be living this way for many years, constantly on the run from it: ". . . A fundamental shift in our every day . . . lives well after it is brought under control".

Don't panic Westy, this is only a partial truth. Yes the immunity is temporary, but as soon as the virus tries to infect you again your immune system 'remembers' it and will produce antibodies to attack it. And this is done much quicker than the first time you got infected, because it's not a new virus anymore for your immune system.

[Sammon]

The gloomy Negative: Took a walk around up and down Perimeter Rd, Down Tedoro st and got a Massage, knew the girl from before Happy ending HJ but says the place might close soon if they keep the lockdown. Then up and down fields ave, Real st, down Santos to Johnny st then out to MacArthur and back around up fields to Phillies. Nothing changed since March 15th 1st day really. New Freelancer Park which is across from Envy and Phillies now abundant with Shabu and glue sniffers but nothing over a 3 maybe a 4 there. Johnny st same 2's and 3's wanting 500 pesos for a hit of glue or shabu. Few bakla around too if that's your thing. Now with a bit of positive news. 3-4 Permeter bars have converted themselves into restaurants and are giving it a go to reopen. I did not check out these places tonight cause they are to close at 8 and It was going on 8 pretty much when I walked by them. I will soon go and give a update on the Modus operandi of the places and see if its close to anything normal bar procedure or are they just going legit to stay open. Talking to a few BG on facebook who went back to their hometowns in Samar and they said they expect to stay home till Jan 2021 then make their way back to AC. Guess we see.

Thanks for on the ground report.

[Streetlooker]

The gloomy Negative: Took a walk around up and down Perimeter Rd, Down Tedoro st and got a Massage, knew the girl from before Happy ending HJ but says the place might close soon if they keep the lockdown. Then up and down fields ave, Real st, down Santos to Johnny st then out to MacArthur and back around up fields to Phillies. Nothing changed since March 15th 1st day really. New Freelancer Park which is across from Envy and Phillies now abundant with Shabu and glue sniffers but nothing over a 3 maybe a 4 there. Johnny st same 2's and 3's wanting 500 pesos for a hit of glue or shabu. Few bakla around too if that's your thing. Now with a bit of positive news. 3-4 Permeter bars have converted themselves into restaurants and are giving it a go to reopen. I did not check out these places tonight cause they are to close at 8 and It was going on 8 pretty much when I walked by them. I will soon go and give a update on the Modus operandi of the places and see if its close to anything normal bar procedure or are they just going legit to stay open. Talking to a few BG on facebook who went back to their hometowns in Samar and they said they expect to stay home till Jan 2021 then make their way back to AC. Guess we see.

[WestCoast1]

Previously I thought the ongoing affects of the virus were wildly overstated but I'm starting to believe that it will lead to a fundamental shift in our every day and mongering lives well after it is brought under control. Replacing company funded business trips with Zoom calls, girls realizing that there is money to be made online with out even meeting guys, bars and rub and tug joints replacing rents with outcalls, years of decimated tourism will all lead to significant changes.

Read an article online few weeks ago about immunity. Wish I'd saved the link. The article said that immunity for those who beat the virus can be temporary, lasting 3-6 months, meaning one can re-catch the thing. Great! If true, then we could be living this way for many years, constantly on the run from it: ". . . A fundamental shift in our every day . . . lives well after it is brought under control".

[Goferring]

Many landlords are demanding full rent during the lock downs instead of working out and or reducing the rent. Thus losing the existing tenant.

Many businesses like a spa has very few built in tenant improvements that they can't take with them. This spa will probably relocate to a cheaper rent and better location.

A girl I know worked for a Korean Spa in Korea Town. They shut down too and are doing on calls. She said the business is slow but is the same with on call. The owner is much happier shedding his overhead.

Previously I thought the ongoing affects of the virus were wildly overstated but I'm starting to believe that it will lead to a fundamental shift in our every day and mongering lives well after it is brought under control. Replacing company funded business trips with Zoom calls, girls realizing that there is money to be made online with out even meeting guys, bars and rub and tug joints replacing rents with outcalls, years of decimated tourism will all lead to significant changes.

Luckily, there will always be girls in need of fast cash but the way the system operates will definitely change.

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

20 K for 1 BR condo is a discount of 4 K. Official base rate is 24 K + 8 K service fee + electricity + reservation fee + security.

Even if 20 K sound better as 24 K, you will still pay more as 30 K per month (if you want cable TV and internet).

Anywhere you will have to pay for cable and internet. 4 K reduction in 24 k rent is decent.

[Dg8787]

My ex-girlfriend hit me up a couple of days ago and told me her place of employment, Reign Spa, has officially shut its doors. Not looking good for AC.

Many landlords are demanding full rent during the lock downs instead of working out and or reducing the rent. Thus losing the existing tenant.

Many businesses like a spa has very few built in tenant improvements that they can't take with them. This spa will probably relocate to a cheaper rent and better location.

A girl I know worked for a Korean Spa in Korea Town. They shut down too and are doing on calls. She said the business is slow but is the same with on call. The owner is much happier shedding his overhead.

[Mr Enternational]

My ex-girlfriend hit me up a couple of days ago and told me her place of employment, Reign Spa, has officially shut its doors. Not looking good for AC.

[Bamboo Pete]

Economically you would think they would be cheaper but to many business minds here it is better to sit vacant than to reduce the price. There are some 1 BR Kandi units now that can be had for 20 K as many are vacant with the absence of the Koreans....

20 K for 1 BR condo is a discount of 4 K. Official base rate is 24 K + 8 K service fee + electricity + reservation fee + security.

Even if 20 K sound better as 24 K, you will still pay more as 30 K per month (if you want cable TV and internet).

[Mr Enternational]

Agreed. Wonder how Pattaya started. Was it because of an Army base?

During the Vietnam War US troops were close by at Utapao Air Base. They would come to Pattaya to relax and drink. Chicks came. No different than it still is today. Word that a Navy ship is coming into port and the place fills up with chicks. My shipmates used to say that when they pulled in to Australia there was a bulletin board up where chicks had left their info for guys to contact them.

One counter example that I would give is Medellin. I don't think there were many foriegners to being with. But the fame of Paisas spread wide and far and then more mongers started coming to that magical city.

That is a totally different scenario. Medellin was already a big city with millions of people living there. The chicks in Medellin are from there and go home to their families at night.

Pattaya was a fishing village with 1 dirt road. The chicks here mostly come from farms in the rural eastern part of the country and room up together while they are in town. They put money in the bank for their family to draw out back home. Last night I was at the machine making a deposit and the chick at the machine next to me was depositing a mere 200 baht ($6). Every little bit helps and it goes a long way back where they are from.

[Fastpiston]

There is a tendency to prefer to have no business than accept a discounted price for rental. Could be face or pride or just zero business sense.

In such cases, just move on and look again, but leave your number and offer just in case second thoughts open up reality.

On selling it may be that the seller would rather leave a property or land as inheritance rather than leave money which is difficult to handle and taxed.

I am not sure Pattaya can be compared with Angeles for condos. Pattaya in in a different league.

With condos in Philippines, just make sure they were built properly, never take a sales person assurance. Most are poorly built with contractors often secretly taking shortcuts on materials. Remember also. Philippines is in an earthquake zone and Angeles is at the foot of Pinatubo.

[KilledSoul]

Personally, I think military bases, foreign mine startups etc show that where ever monied guys are then girls will naturally arrive. That then feeds an ever expanding loop as more guys, girls and tourists are attracted.

Cheers. G.

Agreed. Wonder how Pattaya started. Was it because of an Army base? One counter example that I would give is Medellin. I don't think there were many foriegners to being with. But the fame of Paisas spread wide and far and then more mongers started coming to that magical city.