Angeles City

[D Cups]

I think its understandable that some here are keen to get back. Sure some are wildly optimistic but some are just keen to keep abrest of the situation and are hopeful it will be ASAP.

As I said, the vast majority can't leave their home country let alone arrive in PI. However, things are improving gradually from adhoc emergency sweeper flights to scheduled flights for approved travelers. Luckily it's now not a huge jump to allowing regular travelers into limited areas and then open access.

On the supply side many countries, including mine, are openly talking about opening "travel bubbles". Again it doesn't give us everything we want but it's a step in the right direction.

Personally, I'm not expecting to be able to depart and arrive unrestricted until well into 2021. I'm not interested in being limited to just Manila or a few nominated zones.

Cheers. G.

Natty, Sammon, G, Mr. E, I've got PAL tix to PI Oct 20 - Nov 20 and hope everything is open by then. Cheers.

[Member #4698]

Personally, I'm not expecting to be able to depart and arrive unrestricted until well into 2021. I'm not interested in being limited to just Manila or a few nominated zones.

I am afraid that you are right. The hope was that the virus would dissipate ie go away. This isn't happening, so sadly there is not going to be unrestricted entry for the foreseeable future until a vaccine is available to all who would like to travel. I know there is some talk about letting in low incident countries and creating safe travel bubbles. Good luck with that. Who trusts the reported numbers from Beijing? There is also the idea of testing at the airport or upon arrival as Sammon reports. I believe Cambodia has implemented such a plan with a $3000 safety deposit kicker. I do not think many punters, including myself, are going to accept these pre entry conditions

And when international travel is permitted, don't expect large numbers of tourists. There is a world wide depression going on. Many have lost their jobs and businesses. In addition I don't think the average tourist family is all that hot about vacationing in 3rd world countries, staying in hotels, and seeing the sites until it is safe. Vaccine safe. Of course we mongers and sex addicts are more risk tolerant. Many of us are just waiting for the green light to travel again. But like I said, I don't think it is going to happen until there is a vaccine.

Incidentally, I still have a round trip ticket for mid August. Ha Ha. At present it does not look like it is going to happen, but there is no point in contacting United Airlines until August 1. This reservation is a postponement of my original flight that was scrubbed in April. Back in March when I accepted the postponement of my original flight, I thought for sure I was going to fly in mid August. That Corona would be history. It is not looking good now with 60 days remaining until this flight. My backup, backup plan (3rd travel attempt) will be for March 2021 should United only offer me a rebooking and not a refund. Am I being too optimistic about March 2021 travel? We shall see.

[Sammon]

There is a movement among major international airlines started by Emirates leading long haul carrier. With spot test coming and should be widely available within next couple of months, there will be spot test done at points of entry. If negative will be allowed to board. If positive will be taken to isolation for 14 days in the country where you trying to board. With negative test result in hand you can go to any country without quarantine at destination.

So what's the caveat in this for us mongers?

As we all know we like to intermingle with many local ladies. If not in the bar dates from local websites will be visiting us in the hotel. Will there be any restrictions for visitors? It is an open question. Will they ask the visitors for COVID free certificates?

Assuming you had your fun for however number of days and trying go back home with everything flushed out, polished, no more depressed, happily got few contacts for next visit. So you go to the airport and once again needs to be tested. If negative can get back home without any problems. If positive will be quarantined for 14 days all alone on your expense till you become negative.

Airlines will gladly add cost of your test to the ticket price.

[PedroMorales]

I think its understandable that some here are keen to get back. Sure some are wildly optimistic but some are just keen to keep abrest of the situation and are hopeful it will be ASAP.

As I said, the vast majority can't leave their home country let alone arrive in PI. However, things are improving gradually from adhoc emergency sweeper flights to scheduled flights for approved travelers. Luckily it's now not a huge jump to allowing regular travelers into limited areas and then open access.

On the supply side many countries, including mine, are openly talking about opening "travel bubbles". Again it doesn't give us everything we want but it's a step in the right direction.

Personally, I'm not expecting to be able to depart and arrive unrestricted until well into 2021. I'm not interested in being limited to just Manila or a few nominated zones.

Cheers. G.

You are right abut us watching for signs of a comeback but wrong, I fear, about a come back. Society is being atomized in front of us and there is no talk of an acceptable return to what was normal (awful security at airports, no shoes etc). I think the old days are gone and social isolation is the new norm.

[Goferring]

So why the endless discussion on 'when I get back' Just read the local new and follow what it says. So if you can get there and have a 4-6 weeks vacation time OK but you may end up in 14 day quarantine when you return home LOL.

From G's country this tend be repatriating pinoys to the Philippines (why I wonder) or bringing them to his country as they want to get the hell out of their country ASAP. Am told is / was US $900 one way from Cebu.

As for visiting G, can't go unless you prove it is vitally important, in the national interest etic. So having massive blue balls is not one of those on the list even though we both agree it is in our best interest LOL.

I think its understandable that some here are keen to get back. Sure some are wildly optimistic but some are just keen to keep abrest of the situation and are hopeful it will be ASAP.

As I said, the vast majority can't leave their home country let alone arrive in PI. However, things are improving gradually from adhoc emergency sweeper flights to scheduled flights for approved travelers. Luckily it's now not a huge jump to allowing regular travelers into limited areas and then open access.

On the supply side many countries, including mine, are openly talking about opening "travel bubbles". Again it doesn't give us everything we want but it's a step in the right direction.

Personally, I'm not expecting to be able to depart and arrive unrestricted until well into 2021. I'm not interested in being limited to just Manila or a few nominated zones.

Cheers. G.

[Datiao]

The airports at least for Cebu are in process of setting up covid test labs to test arriving passengers costs about 3400 p non subsidized.

So the possibility of if you test negative, 14 days quarantine is omitted is quite high.

Just need to wait for further announcements likely within this month.

[Mr Enternational]

An "illegitimate" child may not be strictly "illegal". Common usage is often different to dictionary definitions.

An illegitimate child means that the child does not legally have a father. In the States if a couple is married then it is legally assumed the husband is the child's father. If the couple is not married, then the child is considered illegitimate and a legal process called legitimation has to be gone through in order to make the child legally that of the father. So an illegitimate business is one that is not legally owned the same way the illegitimate child does not legally have a father.

Common usage that is different from a dictionary definition is often common misusage. For instance, people in the States often say irregardless when that is no word at all and they should be saying regardless.

[Wicked Roger]

Agreed. See my second paragraph. At least flying SOMEONE is a start. Round trip PAL flights are now routinely flying between my country and MNL. Just not with me on board!!

"Whether they are literally closed and locked up matters littlle" Let's not start another fascinating discussion on dictionary interpretation. 😁.

Cheers. G.

There are some dreamers on the board (many letting their blue balls do the thinking). Read this article.

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...ourists-lifted

Even if you go there gents you will spend 14 days in isolation at your cost as unlike some countries, you pay so a 5 star hotel maybe nice with food included but you can't leave the room and you can't receive guests.

So why the endless discussion on 'when I get back' Just read the local new and follow what it says. So if you can get there and have a 4-6 weeks vacation time OK but you may end up in 14 day quarantine when you return home LOL.

From G's country this tend be repatriating pinoys to the Philippines (why I wonder) or bringing them to his country as they want to get the hell out of their country ASAP. Am told is / was US $900 one way from Cebu.

As for visiting G, can't go unless you prove it is vitally important, in the national interest etic. So having massive blue balls is not one of those on the list even though we both agree it is in our best interest LOL.

[Goferring]

As far as I know, international flights are limited to filipino citizens. Since I am not a filipino citizen, the airports are as good as closed. Whether they are literally closed and locked up matters littlle to me and I assume little to the rest of the board as most of us are not filipino citizens.

Agreed. See my second paragraph. At least flying SOMEONE is a start. Round trip PAL flights are now routinely flying between my country and MNL. Just not with me on board!!

"Whether they are literally closed and locked up matters littlle" Let's not start another fascinating discussion on dictionary interpretation. 😁.

Cheers. G.

[AussieGaigin]

Authorities provided.

Dictionary.com: "A synonym is a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close."

Legal and legitimate are nearly the same but not exactly the same.

Merriam-Webster: "Some common synonyms of legitimate are lawful, legal, and licit. While all these words mean "being in accordance with law. Legitimate may apply to a legal right or status but also, in extended use, to a right or status supported by tradition, custom, or accepted standards."
In many countries there are traditions, customs and standards that are not supported by the law.

Therefore, there can be instances of practices that are legitimate but not legal.

An "illegitimate" child may not be strictly "illegal". Common usage is often different to dictionary definitions.

[Kazeu]

I thought all international flights had been redirected from NAIA to Clark and it, Clark, remained open??

Of course this is an academic discussion for most until Tourist Visas restart and donor countries let mongers leave.

Enjoy. G.

As far as I know, international flights are limited to filipino citizens. Since I am not a filipino citizen, the airports are as good as closed. Whether they are literally closed and locked up matters littlle to me and I assume little to the rest of the board as most of us are not filipino citizens.

Who knows how long the bars will actually stay open for, if and when they do open up next week. Without foreign customers I don't see how they can stay open. Maybe they will start catering to filipino clientele?

[Goferring]

I was quite suprised considering the airports are still closed to foreigners. Good hunting to those still in Angeles!

I thought all international flights had been redirected from NAIA to Clark and it, Clark, remained open??

Of course this is an academic discussion for most until Tourist Visas restart and donor countries let mongers leave.

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

A girl I know who is currently in angeles just told me today that walking street will be opening up next week. She indirectly knows the owner of one of the bars. I was quite suprised considering the airports are still closed to foreigners. Good hunting to those still in Angeles!

Great legit news!

The mastermindbating here will hopefully cum to a finish soon.

[Gilolo]

A girl I know who is currently in angeles just told me today that walking street will be opening up next week. She indirectly knows the owner of one of the bars. I was quite suprised considering the airports are still closed to foreigners. Good hunting to those still in Angeles!

I heard exactly the same about Pattaya! Nightwish group give lot of bribes to the police to make them try to open Monday! But they'll not make money with thai people! Thai people don't go in bars or gogos! They don't have money to fuck thai ladies. So I think it's stupid to open, because right now nobody in the world can land in Thailand! Even Chinese, Jansen and Malaysian can't go Thailand right now!

[Kazeu]

A girl I know who is currently in angeles just told me today that walking street will be opening up next week. She indirectly knows the owner of one of the bars. I was quite suprised considering the airports are still closed to foreigners. Good hunting to those still in Angeles!