Angeles City

[Chocha Monger]

There will not be much mongering in AC anytime soon. The Philippines has closed off foreigners from entering the country at all right now. Rumor It will be Jan 2021 before they even start to allow entry again. If you are not already here your pretty much SOL. I won't believe the Bars are open till I go down there and see it myself and can go in and buy a beer again and sit in front of a stage of 20-30 girls again. JAN 2021 if we lucky.

With LBFMs off the menu until next year or longer, mongers are stuck at home with reruns of Trike Patrol and boxes of Kleenex. Is there anywhere mongers can go to get their vinegar marshmallows sucked BBBJCIM with swallow before 2021? Are the Thais reopening sucky fucky shops before 2021?

Some mongers are not going to live long enough to get to 2021. After 50 years of mongering Southeast Asia and Micronesia, our dear Grandpa Caramello passed away in Brisbane with an unused return ticket to Flipsville. RIP.

[Kabul Guy]

It is very easy to get a live in GF in Philippines.

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But to each his own.

Getting one to agree to stay with me is not an issue.

Finding one that I would be comparable with and would want to have around 24/7 for a couple of months is the problem.

[Sammon]

If I could find a comparable live in GF, I would do that until the virus threat goes away and would get fucked and sucked daily for my 50 k p a month.

It is very easy to get a live in GF in Philippines. Many pretty young girls have asked me. I think they want some security and their needs taken care of. There are many province girls coming to Cebu and Manila looking for jobs. Most often they stay with aunts or cousins till they find a job. Once they find a job they live in a dormitory for girls. Some cheap dormitory are run by religious organizations and they are very strict. Some girls hook on the side to make their rent and living expenses but their clients strictly locals through friends or friends of friends. These clients tend to be younger locals. Many of these girls are on dating sites. Mainly to hook up with locals. Not all like to be with foreigners. Being with foreigners equate to being prostitutes they believe. Quite a few do not want to be seen in public with foreigners.

IMHO once these girls make a giant leap of being in bed with a foreigner and if they like you will do anything. This includes bringing their friends for you.

I would have no problem having a live in GF or couple of GF if I take care of them. But over time I am sure it will create headaches and possibly problems. There was a monger who used to post in this forum who had bunch of girls living with him. I believe he got busted and probably in jail. Being a monger it is always better to have many friends come and service your needs rather than a live in girl or girls. For me I would get bored easily even if there is a pretty girl who makes me happy. I live in USA and only visit many countries for mongering.

But to each his own.

[Kabul Guy]

You are only has faithful has your options allow you to be.

Fear is what keeps most guys faithful.

I was married for 35 years and always faithful until we split. I was scared to get caught and to lose the life I had with my wife and family.

Once it got to the point where I did not want to save my marriage getting laid for money and in a couple cases for lust was easy and that was in Canada. Then in really started looking on layovers in Dubai, stayed at LE Merdian and went to Jules Bar. Could walk in and leave witha couple with a couple cuties in 5 minutes.

Then I started coming here. The rest is history.

[Kabul Guy]

A week in Philippines will not cost $3000 to $4000. Travel is cheap if you book early and go off season. Air fare under $1000, $100 per day is $700 for top hotel. Food is cheap. Girls are cheap unless you go to a KTV. Dating girls are happy to get 1500 per day. Philippine girls are not into expensive food and glitzy restaurant. They are happy to stay in the room and take out from jollibee. Sexwise they never say no to any number times. AC girls are spoiled by certain group who throw money and hardly fuck them.

Longer term stays are even cheaper, especially outside the major cities. I am in an Airbnb one bedroom townhouse in cebu province. It costs me 23000 a month plus less than 400 a day for groceries. That is about 35000 a month all in living.

I have had local girls overnight and they were happy with 1000. Daytime sex for 500.

I am getting laid a couple times a week for less than USD 1000 a month including living costs.

Hard to find girls willing to risk the ECQ rules to come over. Once we go to GCQ it should be easier.

If I could find a comparable live in GF, I would do that until the virus threat goes away and would get fucked and sucked daily for my 50 k p a month.

[Datiao]

I disagree with that statement.

They take more work to find and to take home but if you are educated, professional a gentleman, you can have success in this group.

I have had some success in this area. Best is to have some actual friendships with guys in the social economic class and let them introduce you to some girls. Once the guys know and accept you and are comfortable making the introductions you are golden.

Unfortunately they are just as stupid and money hungry as their lower class country women. They just have higher expectations on what you should give them and they want jewelry trips and other gifts instead of taxi money.

No difference from high class working girls.

Different way of payment, that's all.

[Kabul Guy]

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Unfortunately as westerners we are not even on the radar of non working girls ....

I disagree with that statement.

They take more work to find and to take home but if you are educated, professional a gentleman, you can have success in this group.

I have had some success in this area. Best is to have some actual friendships with guys in the social economic class and let them introduce you to some girls. Once the guys know and accept you and are comfortable making the introductions you are golden.

Unfortunately they are just as stupid and money hungry as their lower class country women. They just have higher expectations on what you should give them and they want jewelry trips and other gifts instead of taxi money.

[NapaSlapper]

You won't find too many smart European mongers flying to Asia to monger, I'm guessing that's part of the plan with many 3-3-3 mongers, they are more than happy to price others out of the market with their overpaying and then call it "winning", you won't see many Americans in Asia either, the long / expensive flights horrible climate inferior infrastructure, amenities, food and WG and the ROI is a bust for most, I get why the Aussies are here its a very short cheap flight.

I don't have a crystal ball but this C virus could be a huge game changer for most mongering hubs, and as a result there could be big global shifts in where mongers go?

I just pray everyone doesn't follow me LOL.

Have to fully agree.

If I did not own a company in angeles its the last place I would go for a holiday or to monger, the quality of girls is just not there any more.

As far as mongers visiting any time soon then they are living in fantasy land, maybe late 2021 at the earliest.

Until a cure to covid can be found can one imagine visiting gogo bars where the girls and punters had to wear masks and adhere to social distancing, not very good for business IMHO and the reason the bars will stay shut until a cure is available.

[CzarNicholas]

Prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Asia

Cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7 days would be a minimum $3-4,000 when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with $3-4,000 one could fuck models every day for the same 7 days duration in Europe.

You won't find too many smart European mongers flying to Asia to monger, I'm guessing that's part of the plan with many 3-3-3 mongers, they are more than happy to price others out of the market with their overpaying and then call it "winning", you won't see many Americans in Asia either, the long / expensive flights horrible climate inferior infrastructure, amenities, food and WG and the ROI is a bust for most, I get why the Aussies are here its a very short cheap flight.

I don't have a crystal ball but this C virus could be a huge game changer for most mongering hubs, and as a result there could be big global shifts in where mongers go?

I just pray everyone doesn't follow me LOL.

[Sammon]

Prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Asia, just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified adds, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.

Never had a European girl that was not friendly, in fact I would say more friendly than Asian girls because of same language, same intelligence levels, more in common so far more things to talk about should one want to.

As far as hotel costs anything under $100 a night in Angeles city is a flee pit and there certainly is no 5 star hotels, maybe 5 star prices with 3 star rooms would be more accurate.

As far as Angeles food there is no decent food anywhere, even the western food in the most expensive of places is very low quality compared to Europe and at the same prices.

Where I would agree is that if one chose an Angeles girl that was unpopular due to looks / age / weight then GFE and long time might be possible, choose anything slightly better looking and slim then st wham bam one short pop and out the door is the only thing on offer in Angeles.

Now Angeles 20/25 years ago and I would have agreed that the quality of girls was excellent and all stayed long time multiple pops, unfortunately not been heard of in multiple years.

Cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7 days would be a minimum $3-4,000 when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with $3-4,000 one could fuck models every day for the same 7 days duration in Europe.

I am talking about USA. Even here girls are available but the quality of service not the same. Dating sites is good only for young people.

Never went to Europe for mongering except take girlfriends on vacation to Europe, Egypt, Morocco etc which was a while ago.

Charm of Asia is age factor is generally ignored with dating girls. Ofcourse I am not looking to get married to an upscale girl. Other thing is it becomes an vacation with sex with different girls. Travel between cities in Asia is cheap.

Yes, it is true Angeles is not what it used to be. I target only dating girls in Philippines and I have a great time with young juicy doting girls.

I have gone traveling with them around. They make perfect partners without complaints. They appreciate whatever money, gifts you give them.

A week in Philippines will not cost $3000 to $4000. Travel is cheap if you book early and go off season. Air fare under $1000, $100 per day is $700 for top hotel. Food is cheap. Girls are cheap unless you go to a KTV. Dating girls are happy to get 1500 per day. Philippine girls are not into expensive food and glitzy restaurant. They are happy to stay in the room and take out from jollibee. Sexwise they never say no to any number times. AC girls are spoiled by certain group who throw money and hardly fuck them.

[NapaSlapper]

There are big differences in having sex at third world destinations compared to first world countries.

In the advanced countries sex is available free and for pay. Dating and enticing a girl to have sex takes a long time. Before HIV came it was much easier. At that time just go to the bar and try to pick up a girl and sex was definitely on the table. Even now there are girls available for pay sex. But most often it is wham, bam, TY ma'am affair. Even in Las Vegas it is the same unless you hook up with vacationers.

Mongering in third world countries is different. By nature most of the girls are friendly. Sex offer is in your face without having to go look for it. If you leave out costs of travel it is cheap. Hotels are inexpensive even if you want to stay in 5 star. Cost of food is cheap and most often you will get a GFE experience.

Prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Asia, just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified adds, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.

Never had a European girl that was not friendly, in fact I would say more friendly than Asian girls because of same language, same intelligence levels, more in common so far more things to talk about should one want to.

As far as hotel costs anything under $100 a night in Angeles city is a flee pit and there certainly is no 5 star hotels, maybe 5 star prices with 3 star rooms would be more accurate.

As far as Angeles food there is no decent food anywhere, even the western food in the most expensive of places is very low quality compared to Europe and at the same prices.

Where I would agree is that if one chose an Angeles girl that was unpopular due to looks / age / weight then GFE and long time might be possible, choose anything slightly better looking and slim then st wham bam one short pop and out the door is the only thing on offer in Angeles.

Now Angeles 20/25 years ago and I would have agreed that the quality of girls was excellent and all stayed long time multiple pops, unfortunately not been heard of in multiple years.

Cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7 days would be a minimum $3-4,000 when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with $3-4,000 one could fuck models every day for the same 7 days duration in Europe.

[Sammon]

Are there girls willing to short time full sex all over Europe and the UK for 50 yes, thousands.

Are there girls willing to long time for 100, yes thousands just get their numbers and have them on their day off or after work.

Are European girls far far hotter than what can be found in most Angeles gogo bars, yes, by a long way.

Where it goes down hill is that by far the majority of Angeles mongers travel there strictly because the girls are either to poor or too dumb to require protection.

Although cheap sex in Europe and the UK is available with far better looking girls all sex will be covered, something most Angeles visitors shun like a dose of covid 19.

When costs of flights, hotels, loss of work, visas, insurance are factored in then mongering in Europe / UK for those that already live there is far cheaper over all.

There are big differences in having sex at third world destinations compared to first world countries.

In the advanced countries sex is available free and for pay. Dating and enticing a girl to have sex takes a long time. Before HIV came it was much easier. At that time just go to the bar and try to pick up a girl and sex was definitely on the table. Even now there are girls available for pay sex. But most often it is wham, bam, TY ma'am affair. Even in Las Vegas it is the same unless you hook up with vacationers.

Mongering in third world countries is different. By nature most of the girls are friendly. Sex offer is in your face without having to go look for it. If you leave out costs of travel it is cheap. Hotels are inexpensive even if you want to stay in 5 star. Cost of food is cheap and most often you will get a GFE experience.

[CzarNicholas]

When costs of flights, hotels, loss of work, visas, insurance are factored in then mongering in Europe / UK for those that already live there is far cheaper over all.

Moscow and fkkland are some of the toughest places to find BBFS even though it can be done, Latin America and USA are semi easy, and Asia is extremely easy include Bkk.

If you live in Ffurt or NRW it would be a tough sell, to jump on a plane to fly around the world.

[SaltyPete]

Moral of the story is guys here have a warped sense of what love means. Most Pinay women or women anywhere don't want any part of that. You essentially want to jerk off into a mirage, a dream, a fantasy. Hookers supply you with that. Most women avoid your type with a barge pole. They go for guys on their wave length.

When people here opine on love or such things, common sense goes out the window. You are buying a pig in a poke for a poke. If you are at the same level of the hooker and if you are o with her cooking your food, eating marshmallows and watching cartoons all day as you drink Red Horse, OK. When your fantasy moves beyond that and you think ordinary people want anything to do with you, your fantasy can veer into the reality of rape, up to and including a prison cell.

This is a general alert and not a personal attack.

I hope you know you're preaching to the choir with me on this, I am not among the uninitiated on this topic.

I have studied this very topic ad nauseam for decades.

Romantic love does not exist, that is the reason I fuck pre-paid whoors, they provide a much better ROI.

Its analogous to buying huge boneless rib eye steaks very very cheap, buy low, always buy the dip.

In case you're unfamiliar with my use of the word love in the post, I was being facetious, I meant garden variety monger lust.

I can love my children, kin, and male best friends, but I can never love a woman, they are incapable of reciprocating romantic love, they are unlovable! Note I did not say UN-LUST-ABLE.

Women are a quintessential quid pro quo, be it a long term relationship, or street meat in AC (see Briffaults law).

Women have value for 2 purposes, making men cumm, and becoming pregnant to perpetuate the species.

Anything else is an affront to Natural law, a sham, a fraud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdkTdh_PZ8

An experienced, multiple-divorced airline Captain once gave me this sage advice: "If it flies, floats or fucks-Rent it, don't buy it. ".

[Goferring]

Hi,

Thanks for responding.

I am looking forward to partying with sexy gals at evening and a nice fuck in my hotel room at night after partying. And then a nice buffet lunch with the gal. As well as relaxing massage.

Personally, if you are looking to party but have a limited budget I'd go to Soi 6 in Pattaya. Both AC and Patts are shit holes but Pattaya has a lot more to see, do and eat than AC. Go have a look at Walking Street gogos and the main area of town but be warned that if your are not careful it would be easy to spend your whole holiday's allocation in a few hours there.

AC gogos are now generally regarded as a waste of time beyond dropping in for a few beers. Very few have any atmosphere to speak of. I've had fun with girls from online or High Society nightclub there though. If it's the main concern, I'd expect AC to be a cheaper 3 days than Pattaya.

Of course, nothing is going to happen before the bars anywhere are reopened.

Enjoy. G.