Angeles City

[Sammon]

Prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Asia, just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified adds, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.

Never had a European girl that was not friendly, in fact I would say more friendly than Asian girls because of same language, same intelligence levels, more in common so far more things to talk about should one want to.

As far as hotel costs anything under $100 a night in Angeles city is a flee pit and there certainly is no 5 star hotels, maybe 5 star prices with 3 star rooms would be more accurate.

As far as Angeles food there is no decent food anywhere, even the western food in the most expensive of places is very low quality compared to Europe and at the same prices.

Where I would agree is that if one chose an Angeles girl that was unpopular due to looks / age / weight then GFE and long time might be possible, choose anything slightly better looking and slim then st wham bam one short pop and out the door is the only thing on offer in Angeles.

Now Angeles 20/25 years ago and I would have agreed that the quality of girls was excellent and all stayed long time multiple pops, unfortunately not been heard of in multiple years.

Cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7 days would be a minimum $3-4,000 when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with $3-4,000 one could fuck models every day for the same 7 days duration in Europe.

I am talking about USA. Even here girls are available but the quality of service not the same. Dating sites is good only for young people.

Never went to Europe for mongering except take girlfriends on vacation to Europe, Egypt, Morocco etc which was a while ago.

Charm of Asia is age factor is generally ignored with dating girls. Ofcourse I am not looking to get married to an upscale girl. Other thing is it becomes an vacation with sex with different girls. Travel between cities in Asia is cheap.

Yes, it is true Angeles is not what it used to be. I target only dating girls in Philippines and I have a great time with young juicy doting girls.

I have gone traveling with them around. They make perfect partners without complaints. They appreciate whatever money, gifts you give them.

A week in Philippines will not cost $3000 to $4000. Travel is cheap if you book early and go off season. Air fare under $1000, $100 per day is $700 for top hotel. Food is cheap. Girls are cheap unless you go to a KTV. Dating girls are happy to get 1500 per day. Philippine girls are not into expensive food and glitzy restaurant. They are happy to stay in the room and take out from jollibee. Sexwise they never say no to any number times. AC girls are spoiled by certain group who throw money and hardly fuck them.

[NapaSlapper]

There are big differences in having sex at third world destinations compared to first world countries.

In the advanced countries sex is available free and for pay. Dating and enticing a girl to have sex takes a long time. Before HIV came it was much easier. At that time just go to the bar and try to pick up a girl and sex was definitely on the table. Even now there are girls available for pay sex. But most often it is wham, bam, TY ma'am affair. Even in Las Vegas it is the same unless you hook up with vacationers.

Mongering in third world countries is different. By nature most of the girls are friendly. Sex offer is in your face without having to go look for it. If you leave out costs of travel it is cheap. Hotels are inexpensive even if you want to stay in 5 star. Cost of food is cheap and most often you will get a GFE experience.

Prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Asia, just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified adds, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.

Never had a European girl that was not friendly, in fact I would say more friendly than Asian girls because of same language, same intelligence levels, more in common so far more things to talk about should one want to.

As far as hotel costs anything under $100 a night in Angeles city is a flee pit and there certainly is no 5 star hotels, maybe 5 star prices with 3 star rooms would be more accurate.

As far as Angeles food there is no decent food anywhere, even the western food in the most expensive of places is very low quality compared to Europe and at the same prices.

Where I would agree is that if one chose an Angeles girl that was unpopular due to looks / age / weight then GFE and long time might be possible, choose anything slightly better looking and slim then st wham bam one short pop and out the door is the only thing on offer in Angeles.

Now Angeles 20/25 years ago and I would have agreed that the quality of girls was excellent and all stayed long time multiple pops, unfortunately not been heard of in multiple years.

Cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7 days would be a minimum $3-4,000 when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with $3-4,000 one could fuck models every day for the same 7 days duration in Europe.

[Sammon]

Are there girls willing to short time full sex all over Europe and the UK for 50 yes, thousands.

Are there girls willing to long time for 100, yes thousands just get their numbers and have them on their day off or after work.

Are European girls far far hotter than what can be found in most Angeles gogo bars, yes, by a long way.

Where it goes down hill is that by far the majority of Angeles mongers travel there strictly because the girls are either to poor or too dumb to require protection.

Although cheap sex in Europe and the UK is available with far better looking girls all sex will be covered, something most Angeles visitors shun like a dose of covid 19.

When costs of flights, hotels, loss of work, visas, insurance are factored in then mongering in Europe / UK for those that already live there is far cheaper over all.

There are big differences in having sex at third world destinations compared to first world countries.

In the advanced countries sex is available free and for pay. Dating and enticing a girl to have sex takes a long time. Before HIV came it was much easier. At that time just go to the bar and try to pick up a girl and sex was definitely on the table. Even now there are girls available for pay sex. But most often it is wham, bam, TY ma'am affair. Even in Las Vegas it is the same unless you hook up with vacationers.

Mongering in third world countries is different. By nature most of the girls are friendly. Sex offer is in your face without having to go look for it. If you leave out costs of travel it is cheap. Hotels are inexpensive even if you want to stay in 5 star. Cost of food is cheap and most often you will get a GFE experience.

[CzarNicholas]

When costs of flights, hotels, loss of work, visas, insurance are factored in then mongering in Europe / UK for those that already live there is far cheaper over all.

Moscow and fkkland are some of the toughest places to find BBFS even though it can be done, Latin America and USA are semi easy, and Asia is extremely easy include Bkk.

If you live in Ffurt or NRW it would be a tough sell, to jump on a plane to fly around the world.

[SaltyPete]

Moral of the story is guys here have a warped sense of what love means. Most Pinay women or women anywhere don't want any part of that. You essentially want to jerk off into a mirage, a dream, a fantasy. Hookers supply you with that. Most women avoid your type with a barge pole. They go for guys on their wave length.

When people here opine on love or such things, common sense goes out the window. You are buying a pig in a poke for a poke. If you are at the same level of the hooker and if you are o with her cooking your food, eating marshmallows and watching cartoons all day as you drink Red Horse, OK. When your fantasy moves beyond that and you think ordinary people want anything to do with you, your fantasy can veer into the reality of rape, up to and including a prison cell.

This is a general alert and not a personal attack.

I hope you know you're preaching to the choir with me on this, I am not among the uninitiated on this topic.

I have studied this very topic ad nauseam for decades.

Romantic love does not exist, that is the reason I fuck pre-paid whoors, they provide a much better ROI.

Its analogous to buying huge boneless rib eye steaks very very cheap, buy low, always buy the dip.

In case you're unfamiliar with my use of the word love in the post, I was being facetious, I meant garden variety monger lust.

I can love my children, kin, and male best friends, but I can never love a woman, they are incapable of reciprocating romantic love, they are unlovable! Note I did not say UN-LUST-ABLE.

Women are a quintessential quid pro quo, be it a long term relationship, or street meat in AC (see Briffaults law).

Women have value for 2 purposes, making men cumm, and becoming pregnant to perpetuate the species.

Anything else is an affront to Natural law, a sham, a fraud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdkTdh_PZ8

An experienced, multiple-divorced airline Captain once gave me this sage advice: "If it flies, floats or fucks-Rent it, don't buy it. ".

[Goferring]

Hi,

Thanks for responding.

I am looking forward to partying with sexy gals at evening and a nice fuck in my hotel room at night after partying. And then a nice buffet lunch with the gal. As well as relaxing massage.

Personally, if you are looking to party but have a limited budget I'd go to Soi 6 in Pattaya. Both AC and Patts are shit holes but Pattaya has a lot more to see, do and eat than AC. Go have a look at Walking Street gogos and the main area of town but be warned that if your are not careful it would be easy to spend your whole holiday's allocation in a few hours there.

AC gogos are now generally regarded as a waste of time beyond dropping in for a few beers. Very few have any atmosphere to speak of. I've had fun with girls from online or High Society nightclub there though. If it's the main concern, I'd expect AC to be a cheaper 3 days than Pattaya.

Of course, nothing is going to happen before the bars anywhere are reopened.

Enjoy. G.

[Streetlooker]

Hello Guys,

I am looking for options of mongering in either Pattaya, Saigon or Angels City. Please guide which will be the best option if my budget is $600 for 3 nights, out of which $100 is flight tickets and transport to the city. Which city provides best value for money?

Thanks,

Dhruv.

There will not be much mongering in AC anytime soon. The Philippines has closed off foreigners from entering the country at all right now. Rumor It will be Jan 2021 before they even start to allow entry again. If you are not already here your pretty much SOL. I won't believe the Bars are open till I go down there and see it myself and can go in and buy a beer again and sit in front of a stage of 20-30 girls again. JAN 2021 if we lucky.

[Streetlooker]

Just that peoples choices reflect the environment that they are in.

They say married guys that don't cheat, don't cheat because they can't find a vagina to cheat with LOL (or they don't know how to find a pre-paid whoor).

You are only has faithful has your options allow you to be.

[Dhruvninea]

What are you interested in / want to do? We could give more info if we knew these.

I'd go to Pattaya if I wanted a succession of cheap STs, AC for overnighters or HCMC for things to do during the day. HCMC is far more interesting than Patts or AC.

Like for like, I'd say AC is the cheapest for most things but YMMV depending on what you are buying.

Enjoy. G.

Hi,

Thanks for responding.

I am looking forward to partying with sexy gals at evening and a nice fuck in my hotel room at night after partying. And then a nice buffet lunch with the gal. As well as relaxing massage.

[John Clayton]

...his Viagra fueled marshmallow cock.

You need a new metaphor.

[NapaSlapper]

Are there girls willing to short time full sex all over Europe and the UK for 50 yes, thousands.

Are there girls willing to long time for 100, yes thousands just get their numbers and have them on their day off or after work.

Are European girls far far hotter than what can be found in most Angeles gogo bars, yes, by a long way.

Where it goes down hill is that by far the majority of Angeles mongers travel there strictly because the girls are either to poor or too dumb to require protection.

Although cheap sex in Europe and the UK is available with far better looking girls all sex will be covered, something most Angeles visitors shun like a dose of covid 19.

When costs of flights, hotels, loss of work, visas, insurance are factored in then mongering in Europe / UK for those that already live there is far cheaper over all.

[Chocha Monger]

Local girls prefer local guys and that's how it is all over the world. Common culture, common language and shared values make it an easier proposition. Pleasing the family is important for most people. Most locals know why a westerner is in the Philippines and it's got nothing to do with diving, snorkelling or NGO do-gooding. Ageing mongers don't garner the respect they think they do. Poor girls will go for a foreigner as it is a way to support the family and a one-way ticket out of poverty. The girl is in effect selling her pussy so her family can get a better life. The ageing white monger is leveraging his economic power and foreign passport. Love has got nothing to do with it.

I do and it's comparable. When you take into account the need for time off, airfares, accommodation and the general fuck around factor of travelling in a shit hole country, it is far cheaper at home. Sure the LBFMs are cute, but it's no longer worth the effort and it will be less so when Mr Wuhan Virus has had his ass kicked back to China.

Indeed! Foreign male tourism to the Philippines would collapse if white girls between 18 and 23 years old started providing BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIM with swallow to ugly old fat mongers in the West under legal and affordable terms. Mongers only go to the Philippines because they can fuck 18 to 23 year-old nincompoops who will do anything for cash and pretend to love the john in the process. Western girls do not need cash bad enough to whisper, "I love you! I love you!" while a septuagenarian gapes her ass with his Viagra fueled marshmallow cock.

[Engine Driver]

Can you get a STFS for A $50 and an overnight multiple shots for $100 in whiteman's land? An honest question as I have no idea. If so, I'd agree it's not worth leaving home esp if the girls are half decent looking.

Enjoy. G.

ST CFS with a nice looking Colombian, Chinese, Thai or Indonesian girl will be around AUD $90-120 for 30 minutes in Sydney or Melbourne. That will include one pop, plus DFK, CBJ, AR, DATY and usually GFE. Once they trust you, they will give you their phone numbers and you can see them outside the knocking shop for sex or just a coffee. All nighters are not really possible as they are just too prohibitive in terms of needing a place to host and high cost. The hooker will want $2,000+ for 12 hours and MSOG. Nice looking white girls demand $4,000 for overnight and investment bankers, fund managers and plastic surgeons go on cocaine binges with them. On that note, the Burgos girl who charges USD 200 for overnight MSOG is a bargain.

I did say you need to factor in all travel costs and apply them evenly over each session to get a fair comparison. If the Philippines was an interesting country with things to do during the day, stuff to learn and decent food, the experience would be worth it. The other disadvantage is that squeezing in 20 x BBFSCIPs in 14 days is rather tiresome. The law of diminishing marginal returns kicks in. I just find it a mind numbing experience dealing with LBFMs. How much elementary school level conversation in broken English can a monger handle? More than two weeks in Flipsville and your brain turns to custard. You could use the $5,000-10,000 travel money back in RWML and spread it over 3-6 months, fucking much nicer looking girls in the comfort of your home city.

[Goferring]

Guys, I really enjoy reading all the different opinions but just an observation: if your post includes a quote without any indication where the quote ends and your text starts, it's really hard to read and understand.

Can I ask that quoters make use of the Reply with Quote button rather than New Report button with Copy / Paste functions?

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

Ageing mongers don't garner the respect they think they do. Poor girls will go for a foreigner as it is a way to support the family and a one-way ticket out of poverty.

I totally agree. If you reread the unquoted part of my post it specifically stated that I was talking about young, attractive guys and middle to upper class girls who rarely need to swap sex for grocery money.

I'm really struggling to remember a young attractive (in all the senses of the word) guy who had difficulty hooking up with similar regular girls. Equally, I can't remember a burnt out monger who got anywhere without something to trade (money, visa, Insta travel shots etc) beyond 'love and compassion'.

I do and it's comparable. When you take into account the need for time off, airfares, accommodation and the general fuck around factor of travelling in a shit hole country, it is far cheaper at home. Sure the LBFMs are cute, but it's no longer worth the effort and it will be less so when Mr Wuhan Virus has had his ass kicked back to China.

Can you get a STFS for A $50 and an overnight multiple shots for $100 in whiteman's land? An honest question as I have no idea. If so, I'd agree it's not worth leaving home esp if the girls are half decent looking.

Enjoy. G.