Angeles City

[WestCoast1]

Fellas with boots on the ground can inform of current prices. When I was in Camelot a few months back, they had ST I think for 4 k, and LT for 5 k (or similar split prices).

A possible mea culpa. I might have been mistaken in my comments about Camelot. Mistaken in timeline. I was in Camelot back in September / October (I mentioned it in a subsequent FR, October 8). I recall mentioning to the mama how I'd heard the K bar girls were not staying LT anymore. She assured me that their girls who went LT stayed for LT (I did not partake). However, when I was in AC at Christmas, I am not sure if Camelot was open (or closed). If LIH saw it was closed in February, he is probably correct. Anyone with details of timeline of closing of Camelot feel free to update.

[NapaSlapper]

My suggestion is don't bother coming. The normal set up is bars with barfines. Listen to NaySayer.

Not true at all, many guys use the multiple discos of Angeles to meet girls where there is no payment to a bar, also online girls are no bar payment, freelancers or street girls the same too.

Please before discouraging fellow members to not visit Angeles then at least get your facts right before posting.

[NapaSlapper]

See pics. Video was from a year ago. Synopsis: Fella takes a walk down Fields, visiting the bars in the area of BS, Insomnia, Music Bar, Soya (all from the street). Shows the drink and barfine prices for each bar. Its a good service, but posted a year ago. A lot changes. See pics. Vid shows most of those bars with 6-hour ST at p3000, and overnight LT at p4000. Fellas with boots on the ground can inform of current prices. When I was in Camelot a few months back, they had ST I think for 4 k, and LT for 5 k (or similar split prices).

Maybe making a recent visit will have you better informed, Camelot as well as other bars have closed down some time back.

As far as short time, long time or anything else then how long is a piece of string.

Every girl is different, every bar is different, only by buying a lady drink and asking the girl directly does she barfine, is she a cherry girl, does she have her monthlies, is she a drinks only girl, barhop only girl, will she stay 1 hour or 24 hours, does she give a blow job, does she allow bare back, does she swallow, is she a 3 holer etc will one get correct info, lets not forget each girl is different and also the same girl might give different answers to who ever is asking.

As prostitution is highly illegal and most all bars have been raided and closed or had to pay massive fines for even showing a glimps of a bare breast then bars distance themselves from prostitution and the chance of human trafficking claims, therefore paying a barfine is simply paying the bar to release the girl from the bar, at no time does the bar claim that sex with said girl is included.

As far as asking mamas about the girls, mamas are in the business of making commission, they will tell one what is most profitable for her and the bar, it all could be a load of bull, the mama has no say in who a bargirl will barfine with, for how long she will barfine or what services said bargirl will provide, as said, ask the girl directly if one wants to know what each girl will and won't do.

Latest pricing quoted in the bars of Angeles are all over the place, one can get a quote from 4,000 peso or 10,000 peso short time one pop or 5-6000 peso for long time.

What is completely evident is that there are very few attractive, young, slim girls available to barfine, why, because they are in such short supply they can earn huge drink commissions from staying in the bar and not fucking with anyone, yes its possible to get laid in Angeles but it sure as hell is not going to be with one of the better looking girls that is in extreme demand for drinks only.

As always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, some have great taste in women and some don't, claims of I'm having a great time with great looking girls is just that claims, what one is happy with another might think she a no thank you for free girl.

[WestCoast1]

I just found this video on youtube but I guess price are not real, I guess now are more hight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f6QCwn927A

Into the video barfine start from 3 k ST to 4 k LT (ST 6 h, LT overnight).

Mmmm I guess not real rates.

See pics. Video was from a year ago. Synopsis: Fella takes a walk down Fields, visiting the bars in the area of BS, Insomnia, Music Bar, Soya (all from the street). Shows the drink and barfine prices for each bar. Its a good service, but posted a year ago. A lot changes. See pics. Vid shows most of those bars with 6-hour ST at p3000, and overnight LT at p4000. Fellas with boots on the ground can inform of current prices. When I was in Camelot a few months back, they had ST I think for 4 k, and LT for 5 k (or similar split prices).

[Dg8787]

Lots of NonSense on this board. I'm too busy having a good time to keep up with the NonSense here, but to help out any guys stuck in the West contemplating a trip, there are lots of pretty girls in the bars. My biggest problem is which girl in her 20's am I going to bang next? Q Bar, Shooters, Monsoon, Geckos, Lollipop, Insomnia, Old Bar are Western Style bars where the girls are flirty and accessible. Geckos, Q Bar and Shooters are particularly stocked with sexy young girls.

Yeah, the other bars are Korean style, but my money is welcome in them and they have pretty girls. These bars are not for a fun night out drinking. The best approach is to tell the mama what you are looking for, and she will recommend a cutie to go with you. That's what I did at Skyfall, and I was satisfied with the cute twenty year old. There are dudes with laser pointers pushing girls in these bars, but I'd rather talk to the mama. Skyfall, Genesis, Bunny and Viking have a good selection of girls.

So yeah, despite the doom and gloom on this forum, this place is fun for sure.

Doom and gloom for doomsayers. Otherwise there is plenty of girls and fun. There is no shortage of lovely girls.

Non believers should stay away and leave the fun to the rest of us.

[Dg8787]

Hello,

I'm planning a short trip to AC early May. Current plan is to fly in on a Wed evening and leave Friday very early morning. Will get to spend Wed evening, all day and night Thursday there. Will likely get a hotel right on or close to Walking Street. Wanted to check if mid week would be very slim pickings in the bars and if so would it be better to be there Friday evening instead? Ideally looking to go to clubs where I can get ST / LT without having to pay a barfine. Thanks and Cheers.

My suggestion is don't bother coming. The normal set up is bars with barfines. Listen to NaySayer.

[A Traveler]

Lots of NonSense on this board. I'm too busy having a good time to keep up with the NonSense here, but to help out any guys stuck in the West contemplating a trip, there are lots of pretty girls in the bars. My biggest problem is which girl in her 20's am I going to bang next? Q Bar, Shooters, Monsoon, Geckos, Lollipop, Insomnia, Old Bar are Western Style bars where the girls are flirty and accessible. Geckos, Q Bar and Shooters are particularly stocked with sexy young girls.

Yeah, the other bars are Korean style, but my money is welcome in them and they have pretty girls. These bars are not for a fun night out drinking. The best approach is to tell the mama what you are looking for, and she will recommend a cutie to go with you. That's what I did at Skyfall, and I was satisfied with the cute twenty year old. There are dudes with laser pointers pushing girls in these bars, but I'd rather talk to the mama. Skyfall, Genesis, Bunny and Viking have a good selection of girls.

So yeah, despite the doom and gloom on this forum, this place is fun for sure.

[Nona]

Hello,

I'm planning a short trip to AC early May. Current plan is to fly in on a Wed evening and leave Friday very early morning. Will get to spend Wed evening, all day and night Thursday there. Will likely get a hotel right on or close to Walking Street. Wanted to check if mid week would be very slim pickings in the bars and if so would it be better to be there Friday evening instead? Ideally looking to go to clubs where I can get ST / LT without having to pay a barfine. Thanks and Cheers.

[Medellin65]

I just found this video on youtube but I guess price are not real, I guess now are more hight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f6QCwn927A

Into the video barfine start from 3 k ST to 4 k LT (ST 6 h, LT overnight).

Mmmm I guess not real rates.

[WestCoast1]

Don't let them get you down, fellas. There's still a few gems there. *Leggy* gems.

[PhilJoy]

Its very true to say the Koreans won in Angeles, every new bar, every new hotel, every new restaurant, every new shop is being bought up by the Koreans, they have their own police, their own mini van girl delivery device, their own websites for girls, all the biggest and best bars are Korean oriented bars, the Koreans have well and truly taken over Angeles in most aspects.

Fully agree that the only girls left over for mr westerner to fuck is what has already been rejected by the Koreans wether that be online or in the bars, it is what it is unfortunately.

I agree with you too Napa. However I've found that being 'resourceful' and thinking outside the square has worked for me. I know in Sabang there's always the issue of the Koreans raiding the girly bars early on in the night. However, I've met girls in a regular bar there and have an ongoing vacation relationship with them. The same went for me on my first trip to Angeles. With a little bit of research, I found my supply of very talented girls without having to do the whole Korean girly bar scene. And with the help of some guys on this forum I know where to head next to check things out. I just find that a lot of the local girls still appreciate the past military connections of the past and our Australian and American backgrounds. Sure, a lot of these girls mightn't be that young and trying to take the Korean cash, but damn, they know how to play. And have a good time and a laugh too!

[NapaSlapper]

I qualified my past statements by stating that people CAN still barfine from Korean bars, it's just the girls that are available for us non-Koreans to barfine are the leftovers who didn't make the cut on the booking apps. And there's a reason more and more princesses are publicly turning us down in bars (but are happy to make private arrangements), I'll leave the reasons for that for the more observant members to deduce.

But what's done is done. They won and are now the dominant force in AC for the foreseeable. That doesn't mean I have to spend my money in their bars though. Like I said before, other people are happy to spend their money for the service they get from k-bars and are happy with whatever nuts they get. I'm a lot more selective with who gets my hard earned money, the bare minimum is they at least shouldn't be openly disrespecting me to my face.

Its very true to say the Koreans won in Angeles, every new bar, every new hotel, every new restaurant, every new shop is being bought up by the Koreans, they have their own police, their own mini van girl delivery device, their own websites for girls, all the biggest and best bars are Korean oriented bars, the Koreans have well and truly taken over Angeles in most aspects.

Fully agree that the only girls left over for mr westerner to fuck is what has already been rejected by the Koreans wether that be online or in the bars, it is what it is unfortunately.

[Jarango]

But the reason AC is not the same anymore is not because suddenly bar girls became "conservative". They still drop their panties for almost anyone for some (more expensive) Pesos. The reasons the bars started changes were numerous raids by police due to increased pressure from NGOs and other busybodies, and maybe no enough greasing of palms. Then came Koreans who changed the purpose of the bars to a showcase of dolls. None of this has to do with how conservative or not a bar girl is. I would suggest bar girls and many other lower income Filipinas that we encounter are all happy to fuck overweight bald white men within minutes of meeting them. In what world is that conservative?

Hard to beat that analysis. Beats me why guys over analyse it to death. Leaving aside the bar girls, even " overweight bald white men" who would not get a second look in an old folks' home are still in the game here. And though I see where the NGOs, for whom I have no time, are coming from, they remind me of some animal rights' folk who were recently filmed taking a puppy off a homeless guy, taking his only comfort blanket from him. Wood and trees.

[Expat American]

I'm just posting about the current AC, not something that might have existed in the past. The old AC is gone and it aint coming back. I think what matters to most readers of this board is something they can actually experience currently, and that's what I post about.

But the reason AC is not the same anymore is not because suddenly bar girls became "conservative". They still drop their panties for almost anyone for some (more expensive) Pesos. The reasons the bars started changes were numerous raids by police due to increased pressure from NGOs and other busybodies, and maybe no enough greasing of palms. Then came Koreans who changed the purpose of the bars to a showcase of dolls. None of this has to do with how conservative or not a bar girl is. I would suggest bar girls and many other lower income Filipinas that we encounter are all happy to fuck overweight bald white men within minutes of meeting them. In what world is that conservative?

[PhilJoy]

I don't know, I don't mind saying that I found LIH's attitude repulsive and arrogant and argumentative. I reported it, as it is unproductive and works counter to the purpose of this forum. Maybe someone else did, too, but his posts are semi-removed now.

Good on you Aml.

I find all the advice from all the guys on here helpful and didn't join up to see conflict happening.

If I can offer any advice in return at any time that might assist someone, it's a win win situation for me.

Phil.