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  1. #24365
    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]

    I think that it is unrealistic to expect a "safe" STD free environment you have to just accept that, that is a risk, you can use your own test kits if you are so inclined but if you are going to take part in this hobby you have to be honest with yourself and realize that you are putting yourself at risk which is why I prefer to date either very green women who are not in the sex industry "yet" or single mothers who have recently given birth and haven't had a sex partner since. I still arrange a compensated dating arrangement but ladies who decide that selling themselves is going to be their living is a dramatically different situation than one that just wants the bills paid and where the term "compensated dating" comes into play. Sex workers come into contact with 100's of johns that is magnitudes larger than anything a college girl or single mother from the province might come into contact with. I am under no disillusion that they already might very well have contracted an STD however the fact that they have less exposure lowers the probability quite a bit.
    Correct, one has to do simple risk assessment especially barebacking in Philippines. I have not dared do that there simply because of what you just said, and also on how these working girls would so frequently bareback with any Johns. It is just a huge risk. My box of rubbers get to be fully used while I was there.

  2. #24364
    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    These girls are filthy in every possible meaning of that word..
    I love the girls for this.

  3. #24363
    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    In all seriousness I have considered moving to another country for mongering until they bring down the HIV rate or at least start to see a decline in the infection rate. I have since decided to shift gears and I mostly seek compensated dating arrangements with cam girls or single mothers while the goods on sale in AC may look appealing are the risks given that the HIV rate has grown 3147% over the past 10 years an acceptable risk? I love that they speak English or some facsimile there of and I have been hunting in other grounds in other countries for the past 4-5 years or so I have passed through AC on short trips and relationships with non bar girls but I do not partake in the sex industry in AC or Manila for that matter as much as I used to in my golden days 2008-2010. I still go to AC but I date SM workers and sales ladies and shit I might be just as at risk but I haven't been nearly as active as I was 10 years ago. This might seem like a troll post and trigger some people but I just happened to look at some of the recent numbers and its progression over the past 10 years and that chart looks No Bueno in the Philippines, shocking.
    The only ones who have to worry about this is those who go around trying to secure BBFS from hookers all the time. Then their dream life become their worse nightmare.

  4. #24362

    HIV rate up 3147% over the past 10 in PH, acceptable risk?

    In all seriousness I have considered moving to another country for mongering until they bring down the HIV rate or at least start to see a decline in the infection rate. I have since decided to shift gears and I mostly seek compensated dating arrangements with cam girls or single mothers while the goods on sale in AC may look appealing are the risks given that the HIV rate has grown 3147% over the past 10 years an acceptable risk? I love that they speak English or some facsimile there of and I have been hunting in other grounds in other countries for the past 4-5 years or so I have passed through AC on short trips and relationships with non bar girls but I do not partake in the sex industry in AC or Manila for that matter as much as I used to in my golden days 2008-2010. I still go to AC but I date SM workers and sales ladies and shit I might be just as at risk but I haven't been nearly as active as I was 10 years ago. This might seem like a troll post and trigger some people but I just happened to look at some of the recent numbers and its progression over the past 10 years and that chart looks No Bueno in the Philippines, shocking. For the most part it is still mostly gay males that have gay sex I didn't find the exact numbers on AC which I would like to see and which demographic it effected. I will be in AC shortly for an extended period of time and it will be very difficult to NOT bar fine I can tell you that much. I am a hypocrite in that regard and if I find something that tickles my fancy all my reason goes out the window. That being said I do not like this trend.

    "House leader bats for HIV-AIDS awareness in Western Visayas".

    "Government data showed a total of 8,533 cases of HIV infections, including 1,520 AIDS cases were recorded in the first nine months of the year.

    Read more at https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...w-law-hiv-aids#Wws3 GM557 Ya3 vysK. 99".

    "HIV in the Philippines: why it must act fast to control growing epidemic, as advocacy groups lead the way".

    https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/healt...ontrol-growing

    "Philippines: HIV cases up 3,147 percent in 10 years".

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...090618348.html

    PH has 'fastest growing' HIV epidemic in Asia Pacific – DOH.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=Hk6OjP2FPHA

  5. #24361
    Quote Originally Posted by WildInstincts  [View Original Post]
    ...the girls started laughing and said I could have got some STD as freelancers don't do pussy check up whereas bar girls do. I didn't know that the bar girls go through the checkup...
    The checkup the bar girls talk about consists of a smear which almost never gets tested and a visual inspection. For as long as guys have been cumming and going to AC there have been questions about the health check up efficacy. You are having sex with women who have anywhere from 3-5+ other men inside them a week which is roughly 12-20 a month or 140-225+ men a year. Since freelancers are mostly part time they may have less access to customers and a stable turn over of customers and most likely are looking for a longer term bar fine situation. Of course some very "hard working" free lancers can get just as much business as a bar girl if not more.

    I think that it is unrealistic to expect a "safe" STD free environment you have to just accept that, that is a risk, you can use your own test kits if you are so inclined but if you are going to take part in this hobby you have to be honest with yourself and realize that you are putting yourself at risk which is why I prefer to date either very green women who are not in the sex industry "yet" or single mothers who have recently given birth and haven't had a sex partner since. I still arrange a compensated dating arrangement but ladies who decide that selling themselves is going to be their living is a dramatically different situation than one that just wants the bills paid and where the term "compensated dating" comes into play. Sex workers come into contact with 100's of johns that is magnitudes larger than anything a college girl or single mother from the province might come into contact with. I am under no disillusion that they already might very well have contracted an STD however the fact that they have less exposure lowers the probability quite a bit.

    At the end of the day you are kidding yourself if you think a sex worker with 100's of sex partners a year is going to be clean that is ridiculous. These girls are filthy in every possible meaning of that word. I am a pussy connoisseur so "if it looks good eat it" is my motto when it comes to women I like them as filthy as possible in all shapes and sizes but you always have to be mindful that you are putting yourself at risk do not get complacent.

    Only difference between a freelancer and a bar girl is that the bar girl on average gets used more frequently and by more customers than a freelancer, which is what a freelancer would tell you. Bar girls / sex workers are almost always broken and delusional when it comes to comparing themselves to other types of sex workers and will tell you what they see as pros and cons about the other to differentiate themselves. Its the same coin different sides imo.

  6. #24360
    That's actually quite funny if true. Should the manager not take other steps if not presented with the agreed health check up on time? Deducting salary plus a heightened chance the girl being sick when not handing the slip in on time is a weird way to run a sex business. But hey, punters who engage in unprotected FS are at their own mercy anyway. I always fuck without protection but a) always test each single girl with self test kits I bring with me en masse and b) 7 days before each trip I start taking Prep (look it up if unfamiliar). Couple that with a healthy dose of skepticism and good eyes and the result is that I am super healthy and never contracted HIV or STDs. Did I forget to mention that I use a German made gel that I squeeze into each **** before shagging to prevent the baby makers that I explode in the ladies from being effective? The awesome thing with this is that I am 38, a generous payer, handsome enough to get the lady's looks. Many girls who agree to fuck never heard of that gel and believe it's ineffective and I often got the impression that they try extra hard in the hopes to get preggy to secure a breadwinner. No babies so far. Works like a treat and the gals are so worn out after each session that they usually ask for a break the next day (I am pretty picky and when I find a jewel I go for repeats). Can't ever be too prepared.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator12  [View Original Post]
    Yes, the girls in AC bars need to do check-up every second week I think. At least that was the situation 3-4 years ago when I was in AC quite frequently. I do not have details on the check-up itself, but it is done at a health clinic. In Bangkok, the go-go bargirls in Soi Cowboy need to do check-up every month and present the result to the manager. Or else there will be some deduction from their salary.

  7. #24359

    Shakey's Pizza.

    Quote Originally Posted by CzarNicholas  [View Original Post]
    I have not seen a shakeys before this since the early 70's. I didn't know they still existed. Well I liked that scallops pizza the other day but that evening I got really ill.
    Yeah, Shakey's is still big in Asia, and especially in The Philippines. The first time that I can recall ever going out for pizza was at a Shakey's! So, I had to go when I was in The PI and saw one, and I didn't get sick. But, I didn't have scallops either (which I love). I'm real careful about eating seafood overseas (although I did get deathly ill after eating crab one time in the States). I got sick as a dog after eating seafood sushi in Rio, and after that said I would just stay away from seafood when traveling on vacation overseas. Was down for only a day, but initially was afraid my maiden voyage to anal sex paradise would be ruined hahaha! Look up the story on Shakey's Pizza online sometime. It's interesting. Well, at least it was to me since, like I said, going to a Shakey's pizza parlor was the first time I can recall ever having a slice of pizza.

  8. #24358
    Quote Originally Posted by WildInstincts  [View Original Post]
    I was in AC last month with couple of friends. One night they both picked up girls from the Gogo bars and I was still looking for the one I like. I told them to go to the hotel and headed to HiSo. There I picked up a girl who danced with me and gave a pleasant company. After clubbing we ended up at my place. Had a good time at the hotel and she left a little early in the morning. Later I met my friends and their girls over breakfast. Up on learning that I picked up the girl from HiSo, the girls started laughing and said I could have got some STD as freelancers don't do pussy check up whereas bar girls do. I didn't know that the bar girls go through the checkup, is it genuine or they say such things to ward off the competition from freelancers?
    Yes, the girls in AC bars need to do check-up every second week I think. At least that was the situation 3-4 years ago when I was in AC quite frequently. I do not have details on the check-up itself, but it is done at a health clinic. In Bangkok, the go-go bargirls in Soi Cowboy need to do check-up every month and present the result to the manager. Or else there will be some deduction from their salary.

  9. #24357
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Kansas City-style barbecue.

    Barbecue was brought to Kansas City, Missouri by Memphian Henry Perry. Despite these origins, the Kansas City style is characterized by a wide variety in meat, particularly including beef, pork, and lamb; and a strong emphasis on the signature ingredient, the sauce and the french fries. The meat is smoked with a dry rub, and the sauce served as a table sauce. Kansas City barbecue is rubbed with spices, slow-smoked over a variety of woods and served with a thick tomato-based barbecue sauce, which is an integral part of KC-style barbecue. Major Kansas City-area barbecue restaurants include Arthur Bryant's, which is descended directly from Perry's establishment and Gates and Sons Bar-be-Q, notably spicier than other KC-style sauces with primary seasonings being cumin and celery salt.
    Natty you are a bbq rock God. BTW, if in KC and your restaurant has a BBQ menu item called 'Burnt Ends', DO try this.

  10. #24356

    Ask the freelancer

    May be, someone should ask a freelancer's take on this. I'm sure she would have friends who work in Gogo bars. She'll tell you if her friends get the regular health check ups or not. I personally have spoken to a lot of gogo girls and almost every one of them has told me that they do have weekly check ups. Now, how good, reliable or effective are these check ups, that's debatable. I do know a forum member who picked up a curable std from a hiso girl.

    Quote Originally Posted by WildInstincts  [View Original Post]
    I was in AC last month with couple of friends. One night they both picked up girls from the Gogo bars and I was still looking for the one I like. I told them to go to the hotel and headed to HiSo. There I picked up a girl who danced with me and gave a pleasant company. After clubbing we ended up at my place. Had a good time at the hotel and she left a little early in the morning. Later I met my friends and their girls over breakfast. Up on learning that I picked up the girl from HiSo, the girls started laughing and said I could have got some STD as freelancers don't do pussy check up whereas bar girls do. I didn't know that the bar girls go through the checkup, is it genuine or they say such things to ward off the competition from freelancers?
    .

  11. #24355

    Shakeys pizza update.

    Quote Originally Posted by CzarNicholas  [View Original Post]
    They avoid me because they want to sell me HJs.

    One offered me st for 2000 w / condom.

    I laughed so now they shun me.

    I know one guy that did one for 2000, but he always uses condoms.

    I didn't fly 1/2 way around the world to a 3rd world country to use condoms in a pussy or ass and pay $85 (in ac no less)...
    I have not seen a shakeys before this since the early 70's.

    I didn't know they still existed.

    Well I liked that scallops pizza the other day but that evening I got really ill.

    For 3-4 days, I never thought it was the pizza, but I didn't get a girl that day? So maybe it was the pizza I only say this.

    Because today I went there and they told me they were closed? I said why?

    They said pest control? I thought really in the middle of the day?

    Isn't that something you do before or after business hours? I was going back to try a larger size scallops pizza?

    I don't know if I should now, maybe they had a food poisoning outbreak and were doing a deep cleaning?

  12. #24354

    Dang Natty!

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Hey, this is making me hungry!
    You sure do know your "que"! I'm famished!

  13. #24353

    Real BBQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Niteluvr  [View Original Post]
    Love BBQ. Can you elaborate?
    Well the Lewis Grand poolside BBQ is not authentic like a true southern BBQ, but it is quite tasty and the quality of the meat is high. They give you a basic choice of chicken, burgers, tuna steak, or tiger prawns grilled on order over hot coals with your choice of typical Phillipine / American sides like cold slaw or potato salad. If you want real BBQ you will have to rent a car and go see the USA. But even in the southern USA most BBQ restaruants do not serve true barbeque. You have to seek out the great ones. They are worth it.

    "Main Barbeque Regional styles.

    While the wide variety of barbecue styles makes it difficult to break barbecue styles down into regions, there are four major styles commonly referenced, Carolina and Memphis, which rely on pork and represent the oldest styles, and Kansas City and Texas, which use beef as well as pork, and represent the later evolution of the original Deep South barbecue. Pork is the most common meat used, followed by beef and veal, often with chicken or turkey in addition. Lamb and mutton are found in some areas, such as Owensboro, Kentucky (International Bar-be-Q Festival), and some regions will add other meats.

    North Carolina style barbecue.

    Carolina barbecue is usually pork, served pulled, shredded, or chopped, but sometimes sliced. It may also be rubbed with a spice mixture before smoking and mopped with a spice and vinegar liquid during smoking. It is probably the oldest form of American barbecue. The wood used is usually a hardwood such as oak or hickory.

    Two styles predominate in different parts of North Carolina. Eastern North Carolina barbecue is normally made by the use of the "whole hog", where the entire pig is barbecued and the meat from all parts of the pig are chopped and mixed together. Eastern North Carolina barbecue uses a thin sauce made of vinegar and spices (often simply cayenne pepper). Western North Carolina barbecue is made from only the pork shoulder, which is mainly dark meat, and uses a vinegar-based sauce that includes the addition of varying amounts of tomato. Western North Carolina barbecue is also known as Lexington barbecue, after the town of Lexington, North Carolina, from which the style comes, home to many barbecue restaurants and a large barbecue festival, the Lexington Barbecue Festival.

    South Carolina has its own distinct sauce. Throughout the Columbia to Charleston corridor, barbecue is characterized by the use of a yellow "Carolina Gold" sauce, made from a mixture of yellow mustard, vinegar, brown sugar and other spices. This is what people refer to as "South Carolina barbecue".

    Kansas City-style barbecue.

    Barbecue was brought to Kansas City, Missouri by Memphian Henry Perry. Despite these origins, the Kansas City style is characterized by a wide variety in meat, particularly including beef, pork, and lamb; and a strong emphasis on the signature ingredient, the sauce and the french fries. The meat is smoked with a dry rub, and the sauce served as a table sauce. Kansas City barbecue is rubbed with spices, slow-smoked over a variety of woods and served with a thick tomato-based barbecue sauce, which is an integral part of KC-style barbecue. Major Kansas City-area barbecue restaurants include Arthur Bryant's, which is descended directly from Perry's establishment and Gates and Sons Bar-be-Q, notably spicier than other KC-style sauces with primary seasonings being cumin and celery salt.

    Memphis-style barbecue.

    Memphis barbecue is primarily two different dishes: ribs, which come "wet" and "dry", and barbecue sandwiches. Wet ribs are brushed with sauce before and after cooking, and dry ribs are seasoned with a dry rub. Barbecue sandwiches in Memphis are typically pulled pork (that is shredded by hand and not chopped with a blade) served on a simple bun and topped with barbecue sauce, and cole slaw. Of note is the willingness of Memphians to put this pulled pork on many non-traditional dishes, such as salads, baked potatoes, spaghetti, pizza or nachos.

    Barbecue in Texas.

    There are four generally recognized regional styles of barbecue in Texas: East Texas style, which is essentially Southern barbecue and is also found in many urban areas; Central Texas "meat market style", which originated in the butcher shops of German and Czech immigrants to the region; West Texas "cowboy style", which involves direct cooking over mesquite and uses goat and mutton as well as beef; and South Texas barbacoa, in which the head of a cow is cooked (originally underground)."

    Hey, this is making me hungry!

  14. #24352
    Quote Originally Posted by WildInstincts  [View Original Post]
    I didn't know that the bar girls go through the checkup, is it genuine or they say such things to ward off the competition from freelancers?
    You are getting involved in a Pinay soap opera. Don't fall for that my pussy is better than hers because of where I choose to work hierarchy of horedom. They are simply trying to elevate themselves over the next hooker. Besides, some chicks do double duty working at bars and as freelancers.

  15. #24351
    Quote Originally Posted by WildInstincts  [View Original Post]
    I was in AC last month with couple of friends. One night they both picked up girls from the Gogo bars and I was still looking for the one I like. I told them to go to the hotel and headed to HiSo. There I picked up a girl who danced with me and gave a pleasant company. After clubbing we ended up at my place. Had a good time at the hotel and she left a little early in the morning. Later I met my friends and their girls over breakfast. Up on learning that I picked up the girl from HiSo, the girls started laughing and said I could have got some STD as freelancers don't do pussy check up whereas bar girls do. I didn't know that the bar girls go through the checkup, is it genuine or they say such things to ward off the competition from freelancers?
    I've been told by a couple of girls working at EDSA in Pasay that they see a Doctor every time they go to work after a barfine. I'm not sure what the doctor expects to see, as most diseases I can think of have a incubation period. If a guy gives a girl genital warts, the girl won't be warty the next evening.

    Anyway, I'm not sure how things work in AC. They may have weekly or periodical check-ups. I'd guess it is genuine but mostly ineffective; and partly putting down freelancers.

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