Angeles City

[Dg8787]

Definitely was expecting to pay everything up front. No issues w / that. Just never done it before given the business model of thailand.

Just curious to what motivates girls to perform if payment is already secured is all.

Guess I'm showing up at 7 LOL. Doesn't seem like theres anything else to do in AC anyways. Will check out HISO as it seems like the top club.

Girl will perform if she likes sex and / or if she wants repeat barfine. No guarantees just like some guys can't guarantee to last 6 minutes.

Get there early for the hottest girls is the formula.

[Engine Driver]

I'm sure you can find "stunners" elsewhere, but from what I'm hearing & reading is that Atlantis has the highest concentration?

Nope. Atlantis does not have any magic formula. Atlantis is in group of six clubs all owned by the same person. They all have the same quality girls, same barfines (except Pony Tails, which is 500p lower) and all have the same LD prices. Don't believe what you have heard elsewhere or the hype from YouTube. The talent will vary from day to day. Hundreds of new girls arrive every week and hundreds quit the business each week to go back to the province. The mamasan will cast a wide net in her home province to draw girls in. They are not too strict on the specifications, as long as she has a mouth, two tits and a pussy. Due to the prevalence of online dating (and hooking), and very low levels of unemployment generally in the Philippines, most clubs struggle to arrange a line up.

Some of the main dancers at Club Ra and Club XS are truly beautiful, but they are heavily sponsored on a semi-permanent basis by a number of Korean and Japanese men. They might not be interested in accepting a barfine from a western pooriner.

Are all the top girls required to show up at 7 pm / opening time? Or are they allowed to come later? Just curious as to what I'd be looking at showing up at 7 pm / shortly after club opening.

All girls (whether top or bottom end) are required to show up at the opening time, otherwise they are fined. The only times a girl won't turn up is if she has already been barfined from the previous day or that morning or if she has hit her quota of barfines and drinks for the month and gets permission from the mamasan.

[Goferring]

Just curious to what motivates girls to perform if payment is already secured is all.

Nothing. It's a major attraction of online and freelancers in AC.

Note that this is not a Philippine wide business model. Only Subic is similar. Everywhere else is what you would be use to: about 50% paid direct to the bar before leaving and then the remainder paid to the girl after the deed is done.

Enjoy. G.

[Phazze93]

I am not saying to pay half. I am just explaining to you how your barfine is divided up. You pay all at once.

Pay up front or later?

Most places will insist on payment up front. That is their business model. Newbies insisting on payment later will create suspicions of getting stiffed.

Definitely was expecting to pay everything up front. No issues w / that. Just never done it before given the business model of thailand.

Just curious to what motivates girls to perform if payment is already secured is all.

Everyone with the standard definition of beauty would agree.

I believe the bar opens at 6 PM. At 7 PM, many girls are on stage. Some girls are still in the back, probably putting on their makeup. Many customers are around, but it's not packed. 7 PM is a good time to go. Angeles is not as ridiculous as Sabang, Puerto Galera, requiring you to come very early to get any decent girl. If you want to be absolutely certain in getting an opportunity to get all available girls, come a little earlier.

It depends on the bar. The barfine on Fields seems to be mostly 3000 or 3500. The girls usually gets slightly less than half. The standard is for the customer to pay the entire barfine before you leave. I am very curious if Atlantis allows this. Atlantis is part of the Dollhouse Group. The bar seems to be more like corporate.

Example: At Insomnia, the customer is allowed to pay afterwards if both the mamasan and the girl agrees to this. No bar is going to advertise this. I was told some old time customers insist on paying afterwards. But it seems some / most girls will not agree if she doesn't know you (unless you're a stud like Mr. E). The girl will be responsible for the barfine if the guy stifts her.

Guess I'm showing up at 7 LOL. Doesn't seem like theres anything else to do in AC anyways. Will check out HISO as it seems like the top club.

[Dg8787]

Pay up front or later?

Most places will insist on payment up front. That is their business model. Newbies insisting on payment later will create suspicions of getting stiffed.

To each their own.

If the bar's policy is payment up front then I pay upfront. If you can't afford to risk up front money then don't bother coming or going to bars. Best to stay home and save your airplane fare and hotel costs.

[Mr Enternational]

You'd say that works for first timers? To ask half up front half after? Wouldn't the bars be more inclined to do that with regulars / familiar faces?

I am not saying to pay half. I am just explaining to you how your barfine is divided up. You pay all at once. Whether you pay before or after. I am no regular anywhere or familiar to anyone. I keep a low profile hiding in the shadows wherever I go. The worse they can tell you is no, you got to pay before.

[GreenBud]

I'm sure you can find "stunners" elsewhere, but from what I'm hearing & reading is that Atlantis has the highest concentration?

Everyone with the standard definition of beauty would agree.

Are all the top girls required to show up at 7 pm / opening time? Or are they allowed to come later? Just curious as to what I'd be looking at showing up at 7 pm / shortly after club opening.

I believe the bar opens at 6 PM. At 7 PM, many girls are on stage. Some girls are still in the back, probably putting on their makeup. Many customers are around, but it's not packed. 7 PM is a good time to go. Angeles is not as ridiculous as Sabang, Puerto Galera, requiring you to come very early to get any decent girl. If you want to be absolutely certain in getting an opportunity to get all available girls, come a little earlier.

You'd say that works for first timers? To ask half up front half after? Wouldn't the bars be more inclined to do that with regulars / familiar faces?

It depends on the bar. The barfine on Fields seems to be mostly 3000 or 3500. The girls usually gets slightly less than half. The standard is for the customer to pay the entire barfine before you leave. I am very curious if Atlantis allows this. Atlantis is part of the Dollhouse Group. The bar seems to be more like corporate.

Example: At Insomnia, the customer is allowed to pay afterwards if both the mamasan and the girl agrees to this. No bar is going to advertise this. I was told some old time customers insist on paying afterwards. But it seems some / most girls will not agree if she doesn't know you (unless you're a stud like Mr. E). The girl will be responsible for the barfine if the guy stifts her.

[Phazze93]

Good luck with finding the "stunners" or top talent at Atlantis. LOL. No specific bar has any monopoly on stunners or fuglies. You are just as likely to find a grossly overweight, baby damaged pig at Atlantis as you are at the drill shack. In fact, some of the day time bars like Candy Bar have a good selection of fresh young country girls. You just need to be quick as the Koreans come in packs and swoop up five at a time.

I'm sure you can find "stunners" elsewhere, but from what I'm hearing & reading is that Atlantis has the highest concentration?

Are all the top girls required to show up at 7 pm / opening time? Or are they allowed to come later? Just curious as to what I'd be looking at showing up at 7 pm / shortly after club opening.

The only tip I give them is the tip of this dick. When I decide to take a chick I tell her to go tell the mamasan that I will send the money with her when she leaves tomorrow. Then the mamasan will come over and I tell her myself.

I think in most places half of what you pay goes to the bar and half goes to the girl. That is one reason it makes no sense to give a freelancer a bunch of money. If she was working at a bar and the barfine was 4000 (probably the highest BF in town), she would only get 2000 of it anyway. That is why it is no problem to get freelancers in AC for 1000 to 1500 LT.

I mean, I'm not about throwing money around uselessly. But I'm not going to be stingy about it either.

You'd say that works for first timers? To ask half up front half after? Wouldn't the bars be more inclined to do that with regulars / familiar faces?

[Sammon]

The barfine is for LT, but still clarify it with the girl.

Barfine is called early work release. It means you are paying for her her time off from her work. When the sex bars were started long time ago it explicitly meant the girl will stay with you LT and have sex with you. Dynamics's has changed. Very few will stay LT. Even sex is not guaranteed. Some say bar hopping only. Only reason girls will have sex is because they do not want to loose the job if there are many complaints.

[Engine Driver]

Taking my first trip to AC in about a week.
Mainly going to be hitting up Atlantis I think. Goin after "stunners" or top talent.

Good luck with finding the "stunners" or top talent at Atlantis. LOL. No specific bar has any monopoly on stunners or fuglies. You are just as likely to find a grossly overweight, baby damaged pig at Atlantis as you are at the drill shack. In fact, some of the day time bars like Candy Bar have a good selection of fresh young country girls. You just need to be quick as the Koreans come in packs and swoop up five at a time.

[Mr Enternational]

Don't the bars collect before you can even leave? And the girls get a portion of the BF?

Or do you mean the tip itself?

The only tip I give them is the tip of this dick. When I decide to take a chick I tell her to go tell the mamasan that I will send the money with her when she leaves tomorrow. Then the mamasan will come over and I tell her myself.

I think in most places half of what you pay goes to the bar and half goes to the girl. That is one reason it makes no sense to give a freelancer a bunch of money. If she was working at a bar and the barfine was 4000 (probably the highest BF in town), she would only get 2000 of it anyway. That is why it is no problem to get freelancers in AC for 1000 to 1500 LT.

[Goferring]

Sorry used to ST / LT. As later post said prefer pay afterwards. So how would they take to half to bar and half to girl later? Discussion sees to say most just pay up front but some say try. I suppose try and they can only reject.

Disco girls HISo. Can I get them for 1500 or should I try for 1000?

Regards.

Every girl and situation is different. The only way you will know is to ask the girl that you are interested in.

I'm sure there are girls that would accept 1000.

[NewImage]

The problem with the AC bars is that you are paying essentially everything up front so really the only difference between the girls is if she is happy to stay all night or not for the same fixed fee. I'm not aware of a separate ST BF rate but I could be wrong. Last trip I only did LT barfines of which one did a ST runner on me.
Outside the bars it's what ever you can negotiate either online or face to face. For ST I was paying half price ie 1500 vs 3000 but many would say I was over generous.

Sorry used to ST / LT. As later post said prefer pay afterwards. So how would they take to half to bar and half to girl later? Discussion sees to say most just pay up front but some say try. I suppose try and they can only reject.

Disco girls HISo. Can I get them for 1500 or should I try for 1000?

Regards.

[Phazze93]

Just tell them that you will pay after. Most AC guys refuse to try to do it that way for whatever reason though. The barfine is for LT, but still clarify it with the girl.

Don't the bars collect before you can even leave? And the girls get a portion of the BF?

Or do you mean the tip itself?

[Mr Enternational]

Taking my first trip to AC in about a week. Mainly going to be hitting up Atlantis I think. Goin after "stunners" or top talent. I'm more accustomed to thailand where you pay the girl after the deed. Enjoy taking my time & goin multiple rounds throughout the night + morning. What incentives do the girls have to stay LT since you're paying everything up front? Obviously will talk about time before barfining & perhaps hint there is a nice tip if service is good & she stays for the agreed period of time. Would appreciate any tips why'all seasoned AC mongers might have!

Just tell them that you will pay after. Most AC guys refuse to try to do it that way for whatever reason though. The barfine is for LT, but still clarify it with the girl.