Angeles City

[Eszpresszo]

Times have changed and in the good old days it was better, period.

The first time is always the best time. If you try to and relive it, you will be disappointed. It might have been better for you, but not necessarily for everyone else. Its appears that it is purely a matter of personal experience.

[Turgid]

.................The reason why things have changed is the expansion of the global economy. Every prick on earth is now richer than ever before. ................................

Actually not quite true. Asians are now richer than before. Westerners are poorer than in the past. Soon Asians will be heading over to the West for cheap pussy. Wait, it has already started, have you been to Germany recently?

[Golfinho]

The best times of any place is when you first go there, and like it. On subsequent, return visits you get jaded: its like a drug you need more to get off, til eventually you make posts about the place gone downhill, which it has -- for you. But, for a new person, his initial reaction is like yours was.

[PedroMorales]

Well, I don't always just point and shoot. I have been known to wine and dine the odd slapper, but it's kinda wasted in AC. The end result is the same whether you wine and dine or just point and shoot. The girls keep coming back for more. Same with tipping. I didn't tip anyone more than 300 PHP for overnight stays and ST chicks from Wechat just got 1500 with no prior discussion and no tip. Once again, it didn't matter. A heap of girls still keep texting me asking when I'm coming back to AC.

A famous hooker in Melbourne, Cristal Hot Babe (http://www.cristaldownunder.com/Cris...ification.html) whom I've seen, always advises punters to save the romancing shit for your real GF or wife back home. Just treat a prostitute like a prostitute as that's what they expect.

Cristal Meth seems to have her shtt together. I always enjoyed walking past Russian / Italian restaurants and seeing some sad soul entertain his "date" who woul; the be happier on the side of the road eating pad thai with cockroaches as a side dish. Indeed my own best date in Thailand was on the side of the road. Cristal Meth sure doesn't go for the soft sell in her website.

I have popped up on Pinay Love again and might have to leave it as I am again swarmed with messages.

It all depends what people are looking for and Angeles is no different from other tourist traps in that respect. I like it cheap and cheerful, just like the women themselves. Losers want the plastic and the cheap lipstick on their Little Miss Pretties.

[Wicked Roger]

Post script should say, 1 min shower (actually just washing pussy to get rid of the smell), 2 minutes unenthusiastic BJ, 3 minutes of looking at the ceiling boring sex, 1 minute of peeing, 2 minutes of dressing, 1 minute to get out of the door. 10 minutes of your life wasted and barfine money too.

A lovely description of why I don't party with bar girls any more unless my regulars and their friends go to the bar to get one for a specific purpose. Mate's wife did this on his birthday, we AC and she went off found 3 bar girls for a lovely sex party to celebrate. She controlled the pick and the girls knew not to do what you mentioned.

But I was caught like that before and now am older and wiser (I think) I have regulars who bring their friends and life much better.

But you can with your cash what you want but some of us prefer to make it go further (more bang for your buck LOL).

[Mogwai]

The OP had a great time. Isn't that enough? Why do you need to defend the naysayers when he made a strong point?

The negative comments about ANY destination discussed here, whether it be Thailand, the Philippines or Brazil, hit me as "groupspeak", often coming from people who haven't hit these places in years, if ever. If you can't enjoy it, then just badmouth it to the people who can. The comments deriding AC (which I admit I've never been to) are interchangeable with the negative comments on any other threads, whether they be concern Pattaya or Rio (or even Batam).

Let me ask you something. If these places were as bad as all the negative comments suggest, why would people still keep going there?

Wow, relax mate. I was just a little bit irritated because the OP was not in AC ten years ago but nevertheless he's complaining about guys who are talking about the good old times. If you were not there yourself you simply don't know what they are talking about.

And I really doubt that this "groupspeak is often coming from people who haven't hit these places in years, if ever" as you say. Personally I have been to SE Asia countless times, also recently. This year two times Pattaya and one time AC for example.

Times have changed and in the good old days it was better, period. But nevertheless it's still worth going there. If you adapt to the changes you can still have a reasonably good time. And that's one of the reasons that people are still going there. Another reason is that a lot of people are new or relatively new to the scene and therefore cannot compare it to the old times.

[Dashing Don]

I am amazed at the number of negative posts in this forum. Angeles is better than ever. The tourists have returned, the go go bars are busy and High Society is packed every night. New hotels are being built and there are several apartment buildings going up. The city has a buzz to it. There is no better place to have fun.

I have travelled to many places and in almost every place I have met some old timer who said "You should have been here ten years ago". I hear this said so often that I reached the conclusion that it tells you more about the person saying it than it does about the place being talked about!

Got to agree with you Rocinha. Unfortunately upbeat posts don't keep the pot boiling here LOL.

BTW, your name? I took a favela tour in Rio many years ago to Rocinha. Ate dinner with Great Train Robber Ronald Biggs and hang glided too. Some great trips to Rio, but the inhabitants of Rocinha didn't strike me as having the disposable income to vacation in Angeles so I'll guess you aren't a native of Rocinha.

[Engine Driver]

Post script should say, 1 min shower (actually just washing pussy to get rid of the smell), 2 minutes unenthusiastic BJ, 3 minutes of looking at the ceiling boring sex, 1 minute of peeing, 2 minutes of dressing, 1 minute to get out of the door. 10 minutes of your life wasted and barfine money too.

Nice one Sammon. How true. You should an extra minute to that. 30 seconds for sticking on a fresh panty liner to the first set of panties. 30 seconds for rifling through the minibar and asking if they can have the Kit Kat.

[Eszpresszo]

The reason why things have changed is the expansion of the global economy. Every prick on earth is now richer than ever before.

No, not really. Some people are just less poor and international travel is cheaper than ever. Some other people are poorer than ever, and some are about to get poor. But lazy mongers aren't looking for those opportunities. Remember that AC and Subic Bay are products of the Cold War and the American bases that created the demand for the vices. The Cold War is over. That they remain there is actually an anomaly, if you think about it.

Consider this: In the 80's, the Eastern Bloc was considered off limits, a place where the women were old and ugly (as portrayed in Western media). In the 90's it opened up and revealed to the world, the most beautiful white women on the planet. And they flooded Western Europe, selling their bodies for less than the native populace would. Even now, these girls make up the bulk of the WG workforce from Rome to Hamburg. Who saw that coming? Not me. I never imagined my cousin would adopt an orphan from Russia or I would marry a lovely Hungarian and start a family with her.

In the 90's, Colombia was assumed to be a dangerous place where only suicidal people would go. Now, its a serious mongering destination known for the beauty of its women. Who saw that coming?

Somewhere down the road, North Korea will implode, and those South Korean mongers that seem to get some much spite here will be up there trading packets of noodles and cigarettes for sex. That is, until the Westerners show up and ruin it for them by paying them in hard currency.

Look what happened this week: The US finally became a net exporter of oil. Qatar left OPEC, which is collapsing along with oil prices. The Persian Gulf, formerly rich on oil will someday find itself broke and no longer able to import everything they need (and they do import everything and the wealthier Gulf States import the labor that actually does all the work). The sand won't grow food, and women will go to odd measures to feed themselves. Look what happened to Venezuela, formerly rich on oil. I was in Bogota on Labor Day weekend, and immediately engaged girls from Caracas. The same could happen in the Mideast. Be ready for it. Sure, Islam is strong there, but Islam doesn't fill your belly or pay your light bill.

The PRC, having made great progress, is about to shoot itself in the foot as it turns back towards the authoritarian communism that once defined it. Comparisons are already being made to the last days of the Soviet Union, which overstepped its economic capabilities just as China is doing now, trying to extend its economic and military clout in Asia. This won't work out well.

The world is changing, yes and we need to get used to it and embrace the opportunities it will offer. I remember the Iran Hostage Crisis, and I am looking forward to punting with some ladies in the Former Islamic Republic of Iran (if I live long enough).

[Engine Driver]

I say that as you point and shoot, or just order Chinese restaurant style from the menu. I bet you didn't spend too much on roses for the lovelies. Your economics 101 is good but there remains a huge excess supply of farmers' daughters. Also Pampanga is a tourist trap. It's like buying a Coca Cola by the Eiffel Tower. Oh, wait.

Well, I don't always just point and shoot. I have been known to wine and dine the odd slapper, but it's kinda wasted in AC. The end result is the same whether you wine and dine or just point and shoot. The girls keep coming back for more. Same with tipping. I didn't tip anyone more than 300 PHP for overnight stays and ST chicks from Wechat just got 1500 with no prior discussion and no tip. Once again, it didn't matter. A heap of girls still keep texting me asking when I'm coming back to AC.

A famous hooker in Melbourne, Cristal Hot Babe (http://www.cristaldownunder.com/Cris...ification.html) whom I've seen, always advises punters to save the romancing shit for your real GF or wife back home. Just treat a prostitute like a prostitute as that's what they expect.

[Sammon]

In AC, on the first day, after checking in, it took me 20 minutes to find a bird and get her into my room. Trike to Candy Bar, 5 minutes for a bottle of water, 2 minutes to point to a girl, 1 minute to pay the bar fine, 5 minutes for the girl to get changed, and 3 minutes by trike back to the hotel..

Post script should say, 1 min shower (actually just washing pussy to get rid of the smell), 2 minutes unenthusiastic BJ, 3 minutes of looking at the ceiling boring sex, 1 minute of peeing, 2 minutes of dressing, 1 minute to get out of the door. 10 minutes of your life wasted and barfine money too.

[PedroMorales]

I would agree. I'm getting more action now than I ever did before. This last trip was too easy. I had 14 girls in 13 days and on my last day, I was so exhausted I couldn't bear to look at another pussy. In AC, on the first day, after checking in, it took me 20 minutes to find a bird and get her into my room. Trike to Candy Bar, 5 minutes for a bottle of water, 2 minutes to point to a girl, 1 minute to pay the bar fine, 5 minutes for the girl to get changed, and 3 minutes by trike back to the hotel.

The reason why things have changed is the expansion of the global economy. Every prick on earth is now richer than ever before. Unemployment in the Philippines is now 2% officially and 0% in Thailand. Bar wenches have a lot more options now, besides laying on their backs. The growing middle class has meant mongers from Korea, China and India are invading countries looking for pussy. The old white cunts in their flip flops, wife beaters and fading tattoos can reminisce all they want. This is the new world order. So everyone better adapt.

I say that as you point and shoot, or just order Chinese restaurant style from the menu. I bet you didn't spend too much on roses for the lovelies. Your economics 101 is good but there remains a huge excess supply of farmers' daughters. Also Pampanga is a tourist trap. It's like buying a Coca Cola by the Eiffel Tower. Oh, wait.

[Engine Driver]

It really doesn't matter how or what it was years ago unless you want to live in the past. It only matters what is going on today.

Today in AC I am getting more action than I can handle.

I would agree. I'm getting more action now than I ever did before. This last trip was too easy. I had 14 girls in 13 days and on my last day, I was so exhausted I couldn't bear to look at another pussy. In AC, on the first day, after checking in, it took me 20 minutes to find a bird and get her into my room. Trike to Candy Bar, 5 minutes for a bottle of water, 2 minutes to point to a girl, 1 minute to pay the bar fine, 5 minutes for the girl to get changed, and 3 minutes by trike back to the hotel.

The reason why things have changed is the expansion of the global economy. Every prick on earth is now richer than ever before. Unemployment in the Philippines is now 2% officially and 0% in Thailand. Bar wenches have a lot more options now, besides laying on their backs. The growing middle class has meant mongers from Korea, China and India are invading countries looking for pussy. The old white cunts in their flip flops, wife beaters and fading tattoos can reminisce all they want. This is the new world order. So everyone better adapt.

[Dg8787]

It really doesn't matter how or what it was years ago unless you want to live in the past. It only matters what is going on today.

Today in AC I am getting more action than I can handle.

Btw, the only thing you are going to get hanging around or talking to old timers is OLD!

[Eszpresszo]

How do you know if you were not there yourself ten years ago?

The OP had a great time. Isn't that enough? Why do you need to defend the naysayers when he made a strong point?

The negative comments about ANY destination discussed here, whether it be Thailand, the Philippines or Brazil, hit me as "groupspeak", often coming from people who haven't hit these places in years, if ever. If you can't enjoy it, then just badmouth it to the people who can. The comments deriding AC (which I admit I've never been to) are interchangeable with the negative comments on any other threads, whether they be concern Pattaya or Rio (or even Batam).

Let me ask you something. If these places were as bad as all the negative comments suggest, why would people still keep going there?