Angeles City

[Socker]

A quick TR. I've been here 5 days or so and there is decent AC level talent meaning plenty of cute 6's, a few 7's scattered about and that's as high as it goes for my opinion. Drink and bar fine prices are the same as they were last August w a few higher BF cost at Club XS, 3,600 and Atlantis at 3,500. Drink prices on Fields are around 125 p and Perimeter around 80 p w 240 p LDs.

As stated the talent is steady and diamonds in the rough can be found easily. The weather for the most part has been on the cool side except today was full on hot sun.

[Dg8787]

Pinays entered the business because of starvation and lack of jobs. Most enter to feed their family and or to pay for medical bills. Period.

Most are out of the business in less than 6 months because they can't stand the business. A small amount will have found a boyfriend / husband / sponsor.

Some will stay long term because of the money and they have no other job skills. But most will be gone. This is the reason for a high turnover and the need for mommasan.

[Engine Driver]

Perhaps, it is a difference of expectations. The Caucasian monger expects the top hookers in the bar to fawn over him and act like a loving girlfriend. The Korean sexy man expects her to sit there looking pretty, drink lady-drinks, and take a vicious drilling back in his hotel room. He then cuts her loose for the rest of the night. While the Caucasian monger expects post-coital cuddling all night and morning sex with a BBBJCIM wake-up call. Pinay hookers enter the trade due to laziness and an appetite for easy money, it is no surprise they prefer the monger who is less work and more money.

CM, you nailed it. The Koreans just want the girls there for their amusement. Many girls have said the Koreans have threatened to not pay them unless they smoke with them, down those sojus in rapid succession and gamble (with the Korean's money). The viscous drilling may or may not occur as poor Mr Korean is often too drunk to get it up.

We think it's easy money, but heavy drinking on a daily basis and getting to bed at 6. 00 am each night would not be easy. Most girls get burned out after a few months.

[Chocha Monger]

LOL. Funny one Pedro.

I would expect that Koreans that live and work in the Phils would learn the Tagalog but are they the ones that are crowding out the Caucasian monger as he desperately begs for the favors of top quality bar girl? The source of so much angst here. Somehow I doubt it. Probably the Koreans have their admirers but I suspect that they attract the most mercenary of bar girl.

And being able to put together a few phrases in 'bar Korean' might not be enough to communicate back and forth online. I've communicated with tons of Filipinos online and the topic of Koreans has never come up.

Perhaps, it is a difference of expectations. The Caucasian monger expects the top hookers in the bar to fawn over him and act like a loving girlfriend. The Korean sexy man expects her to sit there looking pretty, drink lady-drinks, and take a vicious drilling back in his hotel room. He then cuts her loose for the rest of the night. While the Caucasian monger expects post-coital cuddling all night and morning sex with a BBBJCIM wake-up call. Pinay hookers enter the trade due to laziness and an appetite for easy money, it is no surprise they prefer the monger who is less work and more money.

[Dashing Don]

Please translate.

Hello. My name is Joy, where you from?

I like Korea man.

I go to your hotel room. How much you ay?

I need money, buy rice.

I need money, buy medicine.

I need money, buffalo sick, must bury mother.

I really enjoyed Suki Kim's The Interpreter but Kyung-sook Shin's Please Look After Mom was better.

You buy me Samsung phone?

I'm shorting the Korean won and going long on the Japanese yen.

LOL. Funny one Pedro.

I would expect that Koreans that live and work in the Phils would learn the Tagalog but are they the ones that are crowding out the Caucasian monger as he desperately begs for the favors of top quality bar girl? The source of so much angst here. Somehow I doubt it. Probably the Koreans have their admirers but I suspect that they attract the most mercenary of bar girl.

And being able to put together a few phrases in 'bar Korean' might not be enough to communicate back and forth online. I've communicated with tons of Filipinos online and the topic of Koreans has never come up.

[Goferring]

I would concur. In Puerto Galera / Sabang Beach, many of the girls are fluent in Korean. A lot of the shop owners are also fluent in Korean. Many of the Korean guys who have businesses in the Philippines or who are regular visitors are totally fluent in Tagalog.

Many Koreans and Japanese pick up Tagalog / Thai / Indonesian very quickly because they have to use it to get anything. If you or I get lazy and fall back on English, someone will understand some of what we are saying. If someone tries Korean etc the vast majority of people will not understand a word.

[PedroMorales]

I would concur. In Puerto Galera / Sabang Beach, many of the girls are fluent in Korean. A lot of the shop owners are also fluent in Korean. Many of the Korean guys who have businesses in the Philippines or who are regular visitors are totally fluent in Tagalog.

Please translate.

Hello. My name is Joy, where you from?

I like Korea man.

I go to your hotel room. How much you ay?

I need money, buy rice.

I need money, buy medicine.

I need money, buffalo sick, must bury mother.

I really enjoyed Suki Kim's The Interpreter but Kyung-sook Shin's Please Look After Mom was better.

You buy me Samsung phone?

I'm shorting the Korean won and going long on the Japanese yen.

[Engine Driver]

They don't need to speak English. The girls now learn korean. Any girl in AC who wants a good collection of korean customers these days speaks korean at a lower intermediate conversational level.

There is a pretty large FB group for Korean / Pinay hook ups in AC, and there are multiple korean versions of sites like this where they too share info on girls and establishments.

I would concur. In Puerto Galera / Sabang Beach, many of the girls are fluent in Korean. A lot of the shop owners are also fluent in Korean. Many of the Korean guys who have businesses in the Philippines or who are regular visitors are totally fluent in Tagalog.

[RainMania]

Much has been made of the Korean threat to the 'Angeles way of life', but I believe its overblown. For the Koreans, their lack of English is their Achilles heel and forces them to go to the bars and make the best of it. Throwing money around. Where else can they go? They can't go online because they don't speak or read English. The majority of them anyway.

They don't need to speak English. The girls now learn korean. Any girl in AC who wants a good collection of korean customers these days speaks korean at a lower intermediate conversational level.

There is a pretty large FB group for Korean / Pinay hook ups in AC, and there are multiple korean versions of sites like this where they too share info on girls and establishments.

[Engine Driver]

I think that the reputation of AC has brought attractive and willing girls to try their luck here. The growth of the low paid call center agent also provides an incentive for non-pro freelancing. An IQOR nightshift girls might be getting P12 k per month. A few after work meetings can make a big difference.

Happy days.

I agree that an atmosphere of sex permeates the whole place. Everyone knows why you are in AC. Apart from your hotel receptionist (who would risk losing her job), everyone else is fair game. The worst they can do is say no to your requests for a date. AC has long been the El Dorado for poor girls wanting to make a quick buck. A number of massage girls and freelancers on line were previously bar girls, but have opted for an easier and more lucrative way of life doing ST a few times a week.

[BrainDrain]

The reason I go is the critical mass of hookers, freelancers, and regular girls that form an unholy alliance where sex is the main raison d'etre as opposed to other spots which may be legitimate tourist places or cities where people actually make a normal living. The atmosphere of sex permeates the entire place and the regular girls that I pursue on the sites are far more amenable to getting it on than in other places. Either they know what is expected of them or they are afraid of the competition from the abundance of professionals.

I think that the reputation of AC has brought attractive and willing girls to try their luck here. The growth of the low paid call center agent also provides an incentive for non-pro freelancing. An IQOR nightshift girls might be getting P12 k per month. A few after work meetings can make a big difference.

Happy days.

[Dashing Don]

Much has been made of the Korean threat to the 'Angeles way of life', but I believe its overblown. For the Koreans, their lack of English is their Achilles heel and forces them to go to the bars and make the best of it. Throwing money around. Where else can they go? They can't go online because they don't speak or read English. The majority of them anyway.

I rarely go to bars because I feel like that rather than being in control, I have to compete against other mongers whether Korean or otherwise. Especially in those big factories like Atlantis etc. I didn't come from the other side of the planet for that. We have plenty of that nonsense in the good old USA. Rather, like many here, I've been feasting off Cupid etc for years and have banged literally hundreds from the sites. No Korean threat that I can divine.

For me anyway, Angeles is a total dump but I go for a few days anyway and will again next month. The reason I go is the critical mass of hookers, freelancers, and regular girls that form an unholy alliance where sex is the main raison d'etre as opposed to other spots which may be legitimate tourist places or cities where people actually make a normal living. The atmosphere of sex permeates the entire place and the regular girls that I pursue on the sites are far more amenable to getting it on than in other places. Either they know what is expected of them or they are afraid of the competition from the abundance of professionals.

Then there's the freelancers. An inexhaustible supply at very reasonable prices. I know I'm not alone when I say that from getting on DIA to having a twenty something in your bed can be as little as 15 minutes. Incredible!

Whatever they girls say about preferring this ethnic group or that, I often get the impression, as a Caucasian, that I'm being treated deferentially. I'll hazard a guess and say that our reputation for fairness is at the root of this.

[Goferring]

Yes, women are insecure. However if a girl can easily get lady drinks and several bar fine requests every night she damn well knows she's cute.

Yes and No. The cuties know it but they can also be the most insecure. They can look around and see that good looks don't last forever and there are plenty of examples of girls who were cute 3 years ago.

That's why crazy hotties are to be avoided at all costs. 😁.

[Mogwai]

I disagree. They don't know shit. Do you know how insecure women are?

Yes, women are insecure. However if a girl can easily get lady drinks and several bar fine requests every night she damn well knows she's cute.

[Goferring]

I disagree. They don't know shit. Do you know how insecure women are? A woman will not ask a man that she likes out because she is afraid to be turned down. So because you think they are cute, does not mean they think they are cute. They simply play off the signals that the guys putting them on a pedestal are throwing at them. Walk in and say how you don't think she is attractive and you would like a different girl, then she will run to the back crying.

It sort of explains why the girls are happy to accept various price points based on location as well.

The 9 k Burgos stunner might accept a 3 k stopover on the way to work or even 1500 from a repeat MNL Resident when the bills are coming in.