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08-29-18 05:54 #23266
Posts: 15815Originally Posted by RainMania [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by RainMania [View Original Post]
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08-29-18 05:43 #23265
Posts: 15815Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]
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08-29-18 05:39 #23264
Posts: 15815Originally Posted by RickRock [View Original Post]
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08-29-18 05:23 #23263
Posts: 1171Guys there is an easy way around fake pictures and photoshop. Just tell them you want to video chat. It's free, it's easy, and you can see what they actually look like. Hell, you could even tell them to show you their pussy if you're worried that they're sporting a cock!
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08-29-18 03:23 #23262
Posts: 1085The Scammers. This one in AC.
Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]
Interview dancer at Vikings. She passes interview and we're drinking and talking. (this night I'm tired, can only handle one BG and I tell her more than once).
I haven't paid BF yet and she starts telling me she really likes licking pussy. I was a little surprised but the thought was entertaining. We continue to talk and she says more about how much she likes pussy. I tell her a few times that I can only handle one (her).
Eventually we leave and hit Club X and order drinks. Our waitress has a very sexy outfit on and she looks pretty damn good. I tell my viking BF and she says, "buy her a drink, buy her a drink". The alcohol is starting to give me momentum and I say okay. The waitress sits w us and I like her, the viking BG likes her too. I buy a few rounds of tequila and of course I soon have 2 BFs in tow. (I did ask the Club X waitress to bring her outfit and she did).
A few more bars and we hit the room. Right away I tried to instigate the action but the Viking BG soon starts muttering things about taking a shower. I say go take a shower. I do the wild thing w the waitress and just finish when the viking BG comes out of shower. I say, okay honey get over here and lets have some fun. She mentions that she still needed to shower. I said you just did. She says but I need a shower.
Now I'm thinking she's a nut or she's having some kind of mental attack. I tell her she doesn't make any sense and so does the waitress. No matter, she says it's the shower. I say, what shower? She says, I need a shower. Some back and forth about the shower and this is when I gave up. I was tired and it was 2 am so I told her I was going to go back to her bar the next day to get a refund on her BF. She gets indignant and says very loud, LETS go now!
Well, okay then, lets go to your bar now, good idea. So the 3 of us are walking back to Vikings at 2:20 am. There is seating in front of this bar and it was packed w / their dancers and bar workers.
So I talked w / the mama and waited inside for 20 minutes while the mama talked to my (failed) BF outside. I get tired of waiting and go outside only to be ushered back inside the empty bar. Another 20 minutes went by, the mama was very upset but gave my BF money back due to this non performer.
At first when this BG started the issue about the mystical shower I thought she was damaged goods but no, she was very calculating. I surmised this little scammer wanted a bar fine but did not want to perform. Before she secures the bar fine she mentions, "I like to lick pussy". Soon after she is directing me to buy a drink for a waitress I think is cute which I do. She is leading me in her direction all the way to substitute the waitress for her. The viking BG is thinking the other waitress will take care of me (while she's in the shower) and she (the viking BG) will have an easy night. She can babble some mumbo jumbo and then she walks, no pussy grinding by some stranger.
I can't remember now when it all made sense to me. I think it was when we were walking to the viking club for my refund. I told the mama what I just wrote here and the mama was pissed and had my 3 K notes crumbled tightly in her fist. Eventually she opened her hand and gave me the refund. I caught the BG in her scam. I was happy about that but still it was a pain to go through.
The best scammers are subtle and ingenious. She didn't get her BF money so I won. Most of all she enlightened me to how skilled and devious these ladies can be. I still love them though. I just have to be on game. It's real easy to be played. The viking BG was amazing in her scam but I made sense of it and caught her.
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08-29-18 02:24 #23261
Posts: 3376Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]
Every time I've lost something I've made it incredibly easy and tempting and not taken the most basic of security precautions.
Funnily enough, they have also happened after incredible night or even week sessions so in the end the loss was just a unintended way of tipping for excellent service.
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08-29-18 01:03 #23260
Posts: 3244If you haven't been scammed a little then you haven't mongered enough! I am not saying to be a fool but it takes a little risk taking to get good results. Just as stores have a loss tolerance built into the business we should have a scam tolerance.
"Deadliest catch" is funny writings but is fish shit. Just be aware and ready to reel in or cut the line.
Monger on!
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08-28-18 20:36 #23259
Posts: 416Originally Posted by ChochaMonger [View Original Post]
Online isn't perfect, but it sure has a lot more pros than cons. For starters, it almost completely negates the ST scam bargirls have become to used to (agree to LT in the bar, but change to ST when in the room), because you pay AFTER, not before.
You'll end up spending less than if you barfine. I'm hearing of barfines in the 2500-3500 P region these days (not including lady drinks). 2 k pesos will get you most girls online for as long as you want, and if you go to HiSo 2 k will get you most of the girls for at least the next 6-12 hrs (maybe more) if you negotiate well.
The sheer number and variety of girls online alone far surpasses anything the bars have to offer. Sure there are WU scams, LB scams and other scams you'll have to navigate through when traveling through FB and the dating sites. That is the importance of forums like this, where fellow mongerers can exchange experiences and advice on how to get yourself the best possible experience.
I still like the bars, nice to talk to girls, get some groping action for a drink or two, but I rarely barfine these days. Maybe if the bars can innovate (as mentioned earlier) and find a way to improve their lineups and services, people like myself would start spending there again.
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08-28-18 15:50 #23258
Posts: 2656Bar vs the 'Deadliest Catch'.
Originally Posted by Sxxxx [View Original Post]
It is not easy for elderly eyes to spot photo-shopped Adam's apples and age-related hearing loss makes it difficult to detect telltale high-pitched squeaky voices that may cause alarm during cam chats. Furthermore, the ever-growing population of gender ambiguous 'ladies' on WeChat and other online apps looking for some fun and profit with foreign gents are very skilled at adjusting angles and lighting to bait their targets into inviting them over to their hotel room.
Mongers fishing online will eventually have to physically examine their catch, as it is the only way to confirm whether they landed a tuna or a great white shark. With online fishing, mongers have to deal with sorting and throwing back their own by catch to include wrangling hungry sharks on deck who do not want to get back into the water without tasting a piece of the fella who reeled them in. LOL! It is not as safe and convenient as going to bar / fish market where all of the snappers, tunas, and clams are nicely sorted and rotated in displays. In the bar one can just call over the fishmongers and ask them to bring over a particular specimen for a bit of sniffing, poking, and ogling before deciding to make a purchase. That sort of customer service and pre-sorting is not available online. It is like going from being a customer at the seafood counter at Whole Foods to becoming a Bering Sea fisherman working the deck in rough weather on the 'Deadliest Catch' at night.
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08-28-18 02:48 #23257
Posts: 15815Originally Posted by Breadman [View Original Post]
On the flip side, you cover more ground in less time and there are a lot of free chicks mixed in. Last night about 11pm I met a chick on Tinder that works at the cable company here in Pattaya. She came right over. I was so tired that I fell right asleep. This morning as soon as I stirred, her head went right under the covers and to my dick. It was like she had been waiting for it all night. She just left headed to work.
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08-27-18 23:41 #23256
Posts: 1121Bars versus Dating sites.
Originally Posted by Breadman [View Original Post]
Ones imagination / flexibility can get ya out of sticky situations, sometimes.
You make some valid points there re non bar m. O. Valid. My sources nowadays are a mix of m. O's. The guys who get girls recruiting for them, have success. No barfine / ladies drinks, but tip for recruiter, yes. Lots of my girls in Cebu, prior to AC were secured that way.
But as you say, the fly in, point / shoot, fuck, bar scene. Is best for those in a hurry. How about you have some dating site girls lined up before you arrive, for say 5-7 pm time frame and if you have not fucked them by 8 pm, off to the bars? Live cam, if available, can get around the photo shop problem. Come to think of it, might try it myself, LOL. It allows ones personality, to come into play. Girls / guys not only go for looks, they go for personality / vibes, too.
Even if you only operate via bars, innovation / imagination, helps a lot in increasing the fun value. I've got some innovative / imaginative m. O's re that too.
Fun, fun, its got to be fun or forget it.
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08-27-18 18:44 #23255
Posts: 3471Originally Posted by Sxxxx [View Original Post]
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08-27-18 00:33 #23254
Posts: 1121Time to innovate.
Originally Posted by RainMania [View Original Post]
Under 50's "Walking Penises" , plus overweight over 50's, are still trying to procure attractive ones via the outdated and crude bar scene.
So, don't look for AC bar scene to improve any time soon. Innovate or perish, lads. I began innovating about 5/7 yrs ago, LOL. Find a new m. O. That suits you.
Note: Newbies will think AC is great, because they have not seen better, lets say 10 yrs and more ago.
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08-26-18 21:05 #23253
Posts: 1085Interesting.
Originally Posted by Michelangelo [View Original Post]
2. Yes, the Ks have become a dominate force in AC as both customers and bar owners. W / out their presence (in AC) the town / P4P scene would be on life support. It's a 2 sided coin. I like the K bars and for the most part the talent is a notch better.
3. Crystal Palace, the Dollhouse and Atlantis are all at their lowest point since I started going imo. My favorite show bar now is Club X.
4. I've always been a fan of the Perimeter bars and in the past I would agree w / your assessment but on my last trip there were about 3 or 4 bars that had exceptional talent. Ponytails used to be a mainstay in my bar rotation but on my last visit a month ago talent wasn't inspiring. One or two stood out (killer bodies) but were disinterested in the audience. So maybe I was lucky on the Perimeter and unlucky at Ponytails as our opinions are the opposite. To each his own comes into play as well.
5. Someday I'll say my final goodbyes to AC but I hope that's a long time from now. There's no place like AC and I won't go into too many details why I think this. I'll mention one. The show bars w / choreographed dancers that get paid double the BG rate (by these show bars) because they spend their afternoons memorizing hundreds of dance moves, the bar opens, show at 8 pm. That would be Club X. On my last visit they had fire dancers dressed in leopard tights twirling torches. Damn good show AND w extras. What town can I find this kind of show and then be able to take one of the dancers out to dinner and fun? I'l like to know.
Thanks for your insights and report.
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08-26-18 19:51 #23252
Posts: 416The best girls aren't at the bars anymore. They don't need to be. Times are changing, but it is what it is.
They can cut out the middle man and more money freelancing online (FB, IG, Tinder, Tagged etc), or in the clubs (HiSo, Mega). When you also factor in the fact that bars can't directly recruit from the province anymore (trafficking laws), you realise the current bar system in AC is completely outdated and in need of a revamp.